Character-Specific Pages (CSPs) are created when individual characters have so many trope examples that they can't reasonably be included on a shared page.
The Administrivia Character-Specific Pages policy details the rules that apply to these pages. All Character-Specific Pages must also follow the basic How to Create a Character Page policy, as well as the wiki's more general policies about spoilers and examples.
This cleanup thread handles the following tasks:
- Reviewing and approving new CSP proposals. All new potential CSPs must be reviewed and, if necessary, cleaned up before they're created.
- Agreeing on page names for new CSPs.
- Ensuring that wicks are updated when a new CSP is created.
- Reviewing existing CSPs if there's a concern that they need cleanup, or if it's believed that the character may no longer qualify for a page.
- Merging existing CSPs into other character pages when necessary.
- Ensuring that wicks are updated when a CSP is removed/merged.
- Creating, updating and cutting redirects, as necessary, to reflect these splits and merges.
Crowners are not normally required but, where appropriate, can be used to formalise decisions on any of these points.
If a character no longer qualifies for a CSP, it's often more practical to turn the CSP into a redirect than to cut the page entirely. This keeps the page history visible to users, and also helps to steer offsite 'inbound' traffic (search engine results) to the right place. With that in mind, cut requests for CSPs may be declined and referred to this thread if they don't have a clear consensus.
Comments linking back to this thread can be added to CSPs when needed - e.g. to confirm their creation was approved, to warn tropers that a cleanup is in progress, or to note the date and outcome of a more recent review.
We also have some more general threads for character page help -
- Character Page Cleanup
: for trope misuse, zero-context examples, spoiler tagging issues etc.
- Are these character tropes?: for queries about whether particular tropes belong on a character page or on the work's page.
This is not a policy discussion thread, it's a cleanup thread — any requests for policy changes need to be raised in Wiki Talk.
Mod update 07 Mar 2024, reflecting new CSP policy, updated again 22 Mar 2024 to mention redirects for removed CSPs
- Other options must have been tried first, like splitting pages into further groups.
- The character's folder is cleaned up beforehand, fixing any Zero-Context Examples and Wall of Text entries and removing any outdated, misused, or non-character tropes.
- A character's folder is at least 6,000 words/40,000 characters (with spaces). Here is a byte counter.note
- The current character page bypasses technical limitations and requires a split up.
- A single character takes up the majority of a page or is disproportionately bigger than other folders.
Splitting a character into their own page is a major change and needs to be run by the community before it is enacted. Even if you believe a character meets these requirements, they should be run through this thread first. Having other tropers take a look can help spot issues you may not notice or believe to be issues.
Per How to Create a Character Page, character-specific pages should only include tropes that describe the character. These tropes should fall under Characterization Tropes or one of its related indexes, unless they're recurring character traits (distinctive things that the character does repeatedly). If you're unsure what counts as a character trope, you can ask the Are these Character Tropes? thread.
If you have concerns with a general character page, they have their own separate cleanup thread, as do the self-demonstrating character pages.
Edited by Mrph1 on Mar 22nd 2024 at 10:22:03 AM
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I really would've appreciated changing it to account for spoilers before re-merging. ![[up]](https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/smiles/arrow_up.png "[up]"){kind=icon}
Edited by IkeaHan on Jul 22nd 2021 at 5:47:26 AM
Character Specific Page cleanup
From The Loud House:
- The Loud House Lincoln Loud-33,723 characters.
- Lori Loud-27,105 characters.
- The Loud House Luan Loud-38,690 characters
- Ronnie Anne Santiago-15,996 characters.
I'm not sure if the restrictions are different than with bytes, but these can probably all be merged with other pages.
Edited by costanton11 on Jul 22nd 2021 at 10:02:25 AM
Manga Brainrot 🦋
I say merge them unless anyone wants to work on Luan Loud immediately to get it past the 40,000 byte mark
Does this thread deal with pages like King Arthur, Merlin, and The Lady of the Lake as well? They are below 40,000 bytes.
Edited by IukaSylvie on Jul 23rd 2021 at 2:05:37 AM
The Moron
Myths are a totally separate thing - they’re not really character pages in the traditional sense. It’s like the comic book pages that are being cleaned up. Basically, those shouldn’t have to meet the 40,000 byte requirement.
Adaptations, on the other hand, are fair game here - I know Merlin (the character) has one of the longer character pages on the site.
- Kung Fu Panda – Master Tigress (30,171 bytes)
- Puella Magi Madoka Magica Madoka Kaname (37,504 bytes)
- Puella Magi Madoka Magica - Homura Akemi (60,013 bytes)
- Puella Magi Madoka Magica - Sayaka Miki (40,549 bytes)
- Bo Boi Boy Bo Boi Boy Elements (27,986 bytes)
Edited by IukaSylvie on Jul 23rd 2021 at 2:35:58 AM
Manga Brainrot 🦋
- Black Clover: Asta (95,747 bytes)
- Black Clover – Yuno (64,012 bytes)
- Black Clover: Noelle Silva (70,154 bytes)
- Black Clover: Yami Sukehiro (45,409 bytes)
- Black Clover: Nacht Faust (51,386 bytes)
- Black Clover: Secre Swallowtail (43,226 bytes)
- Black Clover: Patry (46,750 bytes)
Keeping. I think we should also make a sandbox keeping track of which pages have been checked with their byte count to be more efficient
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Manga Brainrot 🦋
Made Character Specific Pages Byte Check. For pages that do meet the byte requirement please list them on here with the byte count
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You could probably just copy over the main pages and add the count to the right
Character Specific Page cleanup
- Dragalia Lost Main Characters Prince Euden (4,014 words/26,542 bytes)
- Dragalia Lost Main Characters Cleo (2,592 words/17,406 bytes)
- Dragalia Lost Main Characters Brunhilda Mym (2,046 words/13,867 bytes)
- The Loud House Lincoln Loud (5,291 words/33,280 bytes)
- Lori Loud (4,306 words/27,112 bytes)
- The Loud House Luan Loud (6,103 words/38,700 bytes)
- Ronnie Anne Santiago (2,542 words/16,010 bytes)
Manga Brainrot 🦋
I think they should only be added to the Sandbox once the byte count is done for the page, plus the actual Character Specific Pages is arranged like single page, legacy page, character-focused which is confusing for byte check when it can be done just by work arranged by medium and alphabetically
- Ascendance of a Bookworm - Ferdinand (33,715 bytes)
- Merged
- Kaguya-sama: Love Is War - Ai Hayasaka (34,270 bytes)
- Merged
Edited by KhunRun on Jul 23rd 2021 at 9:35:46 AM
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How do you do byte counts?
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lmao
I looked up "byte counter" and this first thing seems most concise for the job.
(x8) Thanks for actually doing the job of merging the last one, I figured it would be merged and the anticipation was (figuratively) killing me. :p
As for my sandbox question, I do still have the text file so it's fine.
Edited by BlackFaithStar on Jul 23rd 2021 at 5:23:48 PM
Are you afraid?
From Codename: Kids Next Door;
- The Delightful Children from Down the Lane- 16,932 characters
This can be merged with KND: Main Villains.
Manga Brainrot 🦋
All the Character Specific Pages classified under Anime & Manga (excludes Light Novels) will be cleaned up, with qualifying pages' byte count in Character Specific Pages Byte Check, once Ranma ½: Shampoo (36,656 bytes) and Ranma ½: Ukyo Kuonji (27,578 bytes) are merged
EDIT: Done. The Anime & Manga section have fully been cleaned up
Edited by KhunRun on Jul 23rd 2021 at 8:42:23 AM
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From Live-Action TV
- 24 - Jack Bauer (35,562 bytes)
- Better Call Saul: Kim Wexler (19,552 bytes) - Merged with Better Call Saul: Lawyers
- Charmed Piper Halliwell (19,803 bytes) - Merged with Charmed (1998)
Edited by annette12 on Jul 23rd 2021 at 5:22:18 PM
Unofficial Wiki Curator for Complete Monster
Okay, can we maybe make the byte count 30k or something? This is getting REALLY annoying with CM stuff.
CM Dates; CM Pending; CM Drafts
"Cool. Coolcoolcool."
I mean that would be more for a Wiki Talk thing. We can't make rules here just clean up what doesn't meet them, but that is locked.
Edited by Bullman on Jul 23rd 2021 at 1:49:19 PM
Fan-Preferred Couple cleanup thread
Manga Brainrot 🦋
If the CM cleanup is that annoying, we can just wait to make the changes to the locked pages at the end of the cleanup and compile all the links that do need to be changed using the Related of the cut/merged Character Specific Pages into a Sandbox
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That sounds like a good idea.
Unofficial Wiki Curator for Complete Monster
That might not be a bad idea. I've already taken care of Mephisto, and some of Ultron and MODOK. I think Scarecrow will need to be merged back.
CM Dates; CM Pending; CM Drafts
"Cool. Coolcoolcool."
Character Specific Pages That Affect Locked Pages. From now on if we find one that links to the a locked page like CM stuff, we add it here.
Here is the byte count for Batman: The Scarecrow it's 22,865 bytes.
Edited by Bullman on Jul 23rd 2021 at 2:47:55 PM
Fan-Preferred Couple cleanup thread
Unofficial Wiki Curator for Complete Monster
I've gotten some of those in the Sandboxes. After this week's swap I'll clear out the ones taken care of.
Since I'm on mobile, someone please add Mephisto, Ultron, and MODOK.
Film!Joker (1989) also needs to be merged, and maybe Adventure Time's Lich.
Also, someone please merge Gotham's Valeskas?
Edited by ACW on Jul 23rd 2021 at 6:28:40 AM
CM Dates; CM Pending; CM Drafts
Zombie Land Saga Tae Yamada is only at 25,609 bytes — merging with Zombie Land Saga: Franchouchou