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If that's what you're interpreting from the cut reason page, that was not really accurate. Due to a glitch, if a page was cutlisted more than once, then the cut reason from the first time it's sent will show regardless. The recent one (regarding having RL examples) should've been correct.
I will still see if there's anything salvageable; maybe ask the rest of the staff if we can save it or if we need to PRLC it.
Would Let's Plays not count as Web Originals? I mean, I think that Internet and fan works are more saturated with crap than other mediums due to lower quality control.
There's a cleanup for InternetBackdraft.Fallout 76.
Would/could this fall under Horrible.Advertising, Horrible.Other, or some other trope.
I think the bag could fit under the Promotions folder of Horrible.Other.
The Nuka Dark Rum is currently listed on Horrible.Toys, but I'm not sure if a bottle of rum can exactly be considered a toy. I'd move it to the Food folder of Other.
I'm moving it to promotions since it's not physical-harm inducing bad like the other products under Food.
I moved it to a new folder for The Merch. I'm not sure if I should have asked first, but I could think of 2 other things on the page that would fit in that category, so I think that's enough to make a new folder.
Hello. How do I follow this? The checkmark isn't notifying me.
Glasslip is on Horrible.Anime And Manga, but its YMMV page says that "some viewers love the show for those exact qualities, stressing how it leads viewers to reach their own conclusion," implying that it has fans.
Maybe that should go too, but having an English dub doesn't disqualify it from being Horrible. There are companies who will dub anything.
Edited by rjd1922 on Jun 28th 2019 at 6:17:40 AM
Diabolik Lovers is also on the page. I didn't know it was controversial until I glanced at its Tvtropes page. It seems popular amongst anime fan and I'm pretty sure it had an English dub. Does it still qualify even though its reception isn't completely negative?
I looked at the average ratings that Diabolik Lovers got on MyAnimeList and Anime Planet (for the uninitiated, both websites are like IMDb for anime).
On MAL, season 1 has an average of 5.66/10 and season 2 has a 6.04/10. While these ratings might not seem too bad, MyAnimeList is also notorious for having Four Point Scale ratings, with very few anime having averages below a 5.0. Considering how Diabolik Lovers has been rated by over 91,400 users, this is not a good average by any stretch.
As for Anime Planet, the first season has a dismal 2.2 out of 5 stars and the second season has a slightly better 2.6 stars, with almost 15,000 users watching it. Additionally, the top-rated reviews of the series on both websites are highly scathing towards it.
So based on those metrics, I’d argue that Diabolik Lovers is widely hated enough to count as horrible.
As for the argument that it got a dub, the same page mentions that Amnesia was such an unpopular that the news of a dub received Internet Backdraft. Additionally, other SBIH entries such as Garzey's Wing, Ousama Game, Tsukihime, Hand Shakers, and Genma Wars also got English dubs and home video releases despite universal panning from critics and viewers alike. So I don’t think that Diabolik Lovers getting a dub is enough to disqualify it from being horrible.
Edited by Pemulis_128 on Jun 28th 2019 at 8:14:57 AM
I would argue that the Smartphone Games section needs cleaning up. Specifically, the bootleg examples. Yes, it’s bad that there are so many plagiarising games out there, but there are so many that it’s Sturgeon's Law at this point. Unless there’s something that makes these ripoffs worse than the others, condense them into one.
(edit: I just realized that Sturgeon's Law doesn’t have examples)
Edited by TalesofUnder on Jun 30th 2019 at 6:38:05 PM
@Metaverse: I know I'm SUPER late to this, but... I'm pretty sure that it was actually the other way around, as the person who first posted the Ronde entry on So Bad It's Horrible. That video ripped it off from my entry and some of the first edits others made on it. (It's been on there a LONG time. If you check the main history page for Horrible/Video Games, I added it in 2011, and the rewrite to its form prior to removal was in March 2012. It's POSSIBLE depending on when in 2012 the video was originally released that it came first and the rewrite was plagiarized from that, but it seems a stretch.)
EDIT: I suspect the same is also the case for the Zusar Vasar plagiarism.
EDIT 2: Checking, the Zusar Vasar entry was in 2010, so it DEFINITELY was a case of plagiarizing from TV Tropes, which lends credence to the idea that the Ronde one was a similar case.
Edited by Nezumi on Jun 30th 2019 at 10:24:52 AM
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I feel that this example is focusing too much on the offensive aspect of the game, which is specifically said to not count, and on criticizing Desborough and his views in a way that probably violates Rule of Cautious Editing Judgment.
Whoever wrote that sounds like one hell of a passive aggresive person. Perhaps cut it, maybe?
If the game is genuinely terrible rather than just potentially offensive, rewrite it to emphasize that; otherwise, cut it.
The only things I can find about the game are people talking about how controversial it is. I only found one review, but it's written by a social justice advocate, the exact opposite of the game's target audience, and is focused solely on criticizing the game's message rather than its gameplay quality.
“Full time edgelord”?
We’re not Tumblr or Youtube, people. Nuke the current example, but rewrite it if there’s any evidence of people finding the gameplay SBIH.
Of course! Didn't SBIH said that merely being offensive is not enough to quality a work as horrible?
Yeah, but some horrible things are offensive. When it comes to tabletop games, FATAL and Racial Holy War come to mind.
Horrible.Animated Films has this entry:
My problems with the entry:
I want to delete the entry, but I want your thoughts, too. I think you can find it online, if you want to assess it for yourself.
In fact, I’ve seen plenty of SBIH entries, mostly on the Western Animation page, that violate that rule, only citing internet critics.
This was added to Advertising, removed with no edit reason, and then re-added.
The actual trailer's quality only has a brief mention in the example, and the rest is dedicated to the staff's reaction to the criticism the trailer got, which sounds more like Overshadowed by Controversy than SBiH. I suspect a possible agenda behind this example, given the controversial subject matter and un-neutral wording, but it might be salvageable if it's rewritten to focus more on the quality (or lack thereof).
Edited by Someoneman on Jul 13th 2019 at 9:11:08 AM
I would recommend cutting or commenting out the Ghostbusters example since it focuses almost entirely on the reaction to the criticism instead of the actual trailer’s quality.
Edited by Pemulis_128 on Jul 13th 2019 at 1:02:06 PM
Cut since it focuses more on the reaction to the criticism rather than the actual trailer.
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