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As seen in the Do we have a project to disambig works? Ask The Tropers, there are many works pages that seem to need disambigs, by virtue of sharing names and having no differentiation.

This thread is for the discussion and listing of what to do about such pages.

See here for a list of needed disambigs.

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  • Then there is pages like The Host which is for the Korean film but has a bunch of wicks referring to the adaptation of The Host.

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Edited by Twiddler on Oct 27th 2023 at 2:10:56 AM

Twiddler (On A Trope Odyssey)
#701: Nov 5th 2022 at 12:15:44 PM

What do we move Fanfic.Unchained to? Unchained Cap N Blood, the AO 3 author name? Or Unchained Captain Blood, the Tropers name?

I would think the AO3 name since that's what it was published under.

Also, Film.Sweet Home and Film.Sweet Home 1989 both exist as non-redirects, is the latter good enough to be redirected from the former?

You mean making the former a redirect to the latter, since they are duplicates? Yes. It has a number of zces that need to be commented out, but still enough tropes to stand.

Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#702: Nov 5th 2022 at 2:34:07 PM

Characters.Sweet Home and its targets' histories are weird. Don't know how to deal with that.

Everything else is good to be moved to whatever we think / thought up for the Webcomic / Series.

Edited by Malady on Nov 5th 2022 at 2:42:50 AM

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Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#703: Nov 6th 2022 at 1:01:19 PM

So, like the 1989, anyone against Sweet Home 2017 for Sweet Home and Series and Webcomic?

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Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#705: Nov 6th 2022 at 1:11:32 PM

Yes, thanks. And I see you added the 2017's prologue / date / whatever. Webcomic.Sweet Home 2018 exists. Gonna have it cut. Hopefully it hasn't gathered many inbounds.

Edited by Malady on Nov 6th 2022 at 1:11:45 AM

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KUnlimited Since: Sep, 2020
#706: Nov 6th 2022 at 1:35:44 PM

I still don't understand why we disambiguate works just because they have the same title. Isn't that what the media namespaces are for?

I can understand it if there's a custom title collision (Mother vs mother! (2017)) or if there are two works with the same name in the same namespace (Film.The Guardian 1990 vs Film.The Guardian 2006), but otherwise I don't see the point.

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underCoverSailsman Peeks from Under Rocks from State of Flux Since: Jan, 2021 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Peeks from Under Rocks
#707: Nov 6th 2022 at 2:03:09 PM

Sandbox.How To Create A Disambiguation Page (which seems to be a mod draft for an Administrivia page) suggests that we don't - unless we're getting into "Multiple overlapping subpages" territory or similar.

Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#708: Nov 7th 2022 at 8:52:40 PM

Well, on fanfic disambigs, fanfics have less claim to the most direct name due to being an unlicensed work, and fans who make pages have a habit of making subpages, I think?

But we are supposed to be reactive, not proactive, so I'll leave The Love Club alone, among others.

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Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#709: Nov 9th 2022 at 8:10:15 PM

Fanfic.Secret War needs to at least maintain name priority parity with the ComicBook.Secret War 2004.

The fanfic also calls itself "Secret War Warhammer 40,000", so should we call it that, or Secret War Adrassil, because it's much less confusing that way?

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Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#710: Nov 11th 2022 at 6:53:28 PM

Should we do this, just because Characters subpage exists so not all subpages are for the album? The YMMV folder for the fanfic has always been empty?

Fanfic.HybridTheory to Fanfic.HybridTheoryChrisMcNeil
Characters.HybridTheory to Characters.HybridTheoryChrisMcNeil

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redandready45 Since: Mar, 2014
#711: Nov 12th 2022 at 11:10:59 AM

I created a page for Thomas Hobbes Leviathan.

There are a lot of pages with the name Leviathan, so I how do I make a disambiguation page?

Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#712: Nov 12th 2022 at 12:59:27 PM

Move it (copy all the content and cut that page) to Leviathan (Thomas Hobbes)

Actually, Leviathan Or The Matter Form And Power Of A Commonwealth Ecclesiastical and Civil, so we don't have to disambig, then we Custom Title it to add the punctuation and stuff.

Edited by Malady on Nov 12th 2022 at 1:00:49 AM

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Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#713: Nov 12th 2022 at 1:28:32 PM

The full title is too long.

Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#714: Nov 12th 2022 at 1:32:54 PM

Yep, that's why I cut out the word "Ecclcastical", or whatever.

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Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#715: Nov 12th 2022 at 1:33:41 PM

But then it wouldn't be the appropriate title, nor is it even an Officially Shortened Title.

Literature.Leviathan Thomas Hobbes is fine.

Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#716: Nov 12th 2022 at 8:23:14 PM

Webcomic.Alice Webcomic, is a bad disambig name. I pinned down the date to Pre?-1999 for some reason, but anyone got a better name than trying to figure out the year?

Given my edit reason, apparently the site moved to Keenspot? http://alice.keenspot.com/d/19990625.html

There's no reason to assume that's not the right start date, right?

Edited by Malady on Nov 12th 2022 at 8:25:04 AM

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Twiddler (On A Trope Odyssey)
#717: Nov 12th 2022 at 11:42:48 PM

By creator (Michael McKay-Fleming) would be an alternative.

These pages say the start year is 1999.

Alice has been online since '99, but when did you start with webcomics?

Alice is my comic which has been appearing online since 1999.

Added the date and creator to the work page.

Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#718: Nov 13th 2022 at 7:14:06 AM

Thanks! I'm going with 1999 in... 3 days, if no one finds any overlaps and stuff? Wikipedia doesn't report anything in 1999.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice

...

Also gotta remember to turn Film.A Boy And His Dog into a disambig between Film.A Boy And His Dog 1945 and Film.A Boy And His Dog 1975, the latter which has at least the one wick.

Edited by Malady on Nov 13th 2022 at 11:23:54 AM

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Twiddler (On A Trope Odyssey)
KUnlimited Since: Sep, 2020
#720: Nov 13th 2022 at 12:41:42 PM

[up][up] Why? Neither film has a page here.

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Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#721: Nov 13th 2022 at 1:31:42 PM

[up][up] - Might as well do it now, then.

[up] - Sorry, 1 year off. Film.A Boy And His Dog 1946

Edited by Malady on Nov 13th 2022 at 1:32:02 AM

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Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#722: Nov 14th 2022 at 5:46:17 AM

Nearly done cleaning Alice of works:

Theatre.Alice, was going to choose Alice 2013, but there's at least 6 Shorts with that year, according to IMDB.

Music.Alice Tom Waits Album also mentions a play from 1992. What should the new names be?

Edited by Malady on Nov 14th 2022 at 6:41:53 AM

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Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#723: Nov 15th 2022 at 8:19:15 AM

Was spamming Random Media, found Brooklyn. Should Theatre.Brooklyn actually be BKLYN? Also so it's not confused with the movie / book?

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KUnlimited Since: Sep, 2020
#724: Nov 15th 2022 at 12:59:57 PM

[up] It seems that the title is indeed "Brooklyn".

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Tabs Since: Jan, 2001
#725: Nov 15th 2022 at 1:51:37 PM

The playbill seems to be just a stylistic rendering, since all sources I could find use "Brooklyn" or "Brooklyn the Musical". Maybe the latter can be the page name.


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