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Today I found out an interesting fact from troper Ironeye:

Don't ever make the mistake of using the Laconic version as the canonical trope meaning—the laconics are often written by people who don't actually understand the drop. In this case, the laconic only corresponds to one possible cause of Darkness-Induced Audience Apathy.

The Laconic Description for DIAA states as follows:

The thing is, these descriptions are supposed to make it easier to understand what the page is about. If they can't be accurate as well as short and sweet, then there's a problem.

So for starters, what would be a better description for DIAA?

Edited by MacronNotes on Jan 29th 2023 at 6:23:45 AM

MegaJ Since: Oct, 2009
#2301: Jan 25th 2023 at 7:01:35 AM

Wanting to change Laconic.Grossout Show from "A very very very very disgusting show" to:

  • A television show/media made with the intent to disgust audiences, commonly featuring Toilet Humor.

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Amonimus the Retromancer from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the Retromancer
#2303: Jan 25th 2023 at 10:55:45 AM

Laconic.Slippery Slope Fallacy: "Anything is a slippery slope if you are an idiot. (e.g. Speed limits mean they are coming for our cars!!11!!!!)"

What's that supposed to mean?

Suggestion, correct me if I'm wrong:

"An argument that if an action may have a non-zero chance to get From Bad to Worse, despite higher chances of ending positively, such action should be avoided."

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#2304: Jan 25th 2023 at 12:42:40 PM

[up]It's less condescending, so I support it.

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She / Her
#2305: Jan 25th 2023 at 2:24:24 PM

[up](x4) I'd cut the bit about Toilet Humour because the main page didn't state that (it just suggested it can be part of it). It otherwise looks pretty good to me and is definitely a step up from the current.

[up](x3) It looks good to me.


Reposting.

A while ago (EDIT: namely back in 2022), someone removed a bunch of details in Laconic.Screw This Im Outta Here that are part of the trope.

Edited by RandomTroper123 on Jan 25th 2023 at 4:07:29 AM

WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition (Troper Knight)
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
#2306: Jan 25th 2023 at 2:25:56 PM

Except those aspects aren't part of the trope anymore: TRS expanded it.

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RandomTroper123 She / Her from I'll let you guess... (Not-So-Newbie) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
She / Her
#2307: Jan 25th 2023 at 2:48:18 PM

[up]Okay, good to know. However, while the description is different, the main page still states this involves this being unplanned, which was part of the original definition. Moreover, the current Laconic doesn't mention this. So, can I change it to this?

While they initially didn't plan to do so, someone abandons a situation (or tries to do so) when it doesn't favor them.

Edited by RandomTroper123 on Jan 25th 2023 at 2:48:49 AM

Tabs Since: Jan, 2001
#2308: Jan 25th 2023 at 2:51:23 PM

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13590429520A15060100&page=93#comment-2302

I think that's better. I heard this is a somewhat complicated series story-wise so erring on simplicity seems wise.

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#2309: Jan 25th 2023 at 4:00:03 PM

[up][up] Looks good to me.

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#2311: Jan 25th 2023 at 10:58:26 PM

Should I cutlist Laconic.The Reader?

“Boom! Boomboom! Boomboomboom! Bakuage Tire! Gogogo!"
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#2312: Jan 26th 2023 at 8:22:22 AM

Given that it's copied whole cloth from another writer, yeah sure.

Unless you can think of literally any other laconic to replace it with.

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Lucas the Dreamer
#2313: Jan 26th 2023 at 11:51:04 AM

The current Laconic for Amoral Attorney isn’t very good. Suggestion.

A lawyer who takes the cases for criminals, even if they know that they’re guilty, or tries to get innocent people convicted for fun and profit.

Edited by TheLivingDrawing on Jan 26th 2023 at 2:53:52 PM

Why waste time when you can see the last sunset last?
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TheLivingDrawing Lucas the Dreamer from The Town of Clayton Since: Apr, 2019 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Lucas the Dreamer
#2315: Jan 26th 2023 at 11:54:45 AM

[up] Edited it to include prosecutors who try to convict people who are innocent.

Edited by TheLivingDrawing on Jan 26th 2023 at 2:54:53 PM

Why waste time when you can see the last sunset last?
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MegaJ Since: Oct, 2009
#2317: Jan 27th 2023 at 9:36:07 PM

The laconic for Sci-Fi Horror got cut, but before I go to Ask The Tropes, how's this?

  • A horror story using common elements of Science Fiction, often times using futuristic settings.

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the Retromancer
#2318: Jan 27th 2023 at 11:00:31 PM

[up] As you can see, Laconic.Sci Fi Horror was cut with a reason, which in case you didn't know, is a part of this cleanup.

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She / Her
#2319: Jan 28th 2023 at 10:47:46 AM

Because it's getting buried and several days have passed, any more thoughts on my suggestion for Laconic.Screw This Im Outta Here?

Ayumi-chan Aramis from Calvard (Apprentice) Relationship Status: Serial head-patter
#2320: Jan 28th 2023 at 10:44:49 PM

Any thoughts for these guys?

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Amonimus the Retromancer from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the Retromancer
#2321: Jan 28th 2023 at 11:28:52 PM

I've compiled the mentioned bad laconics to Sandbox.Pages Needing Better Laconics.

For visibility, the generally accepted guidelines are here: Sandbox.Laconic Wiki Template.

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Ayumi-chan Aramis from Calvard (Apprentice) Relationship Status: Serial head-patter
#2322: Jan 29th 2023 at 12:44:47 AM

[up] Ah thank you!

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MegaJ Since: Oct, 2009
#2323: Jan 29th 2023 at 10:43:10 AM

[up]5, had no idea it was primarily an index, I could it was just describing what the genre is.

AzureSeas Since: Jan, 2011
#2324: Jan 29th 2023 at 2:46:20 PM

Any thoughts on changing the laconic of The Danza back?

Edited by AzureSeas on Jan 29th 2023 at 5:46:30 AM

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