Somehow he managed to see the future circa 1980' and he was really fond of it, but somehow he saw punk/metal subculture and that's why he styled his horse with Harley Davidson exhaust pipes and remembered a few english phrases. Most likely he also liked Guns'n'Roses, and that's why he says 'PUT YA GUNS ON'.
- So... Date is a Time Lord? (filling the quota)
- One of the things the real Date was known for was an interest in Western culture, this was probably how the writers chose to display that trait.
- Natch, Takeda Shingen appears at the end of Sanada Yukimura's second story, alive and well.
The chronological release of Samurai Warriors and Sengoku Basara are as follows (Japanese releases):
- November 2nd, 2004: Koei released Sengoku Musou
- July 21st, 2005: Capcom released Sengoku Basara
- February 24th, 2006: Koei released Sengoku Musou 2
- July 27th, 2006: Capcom released Sengoku Basara 2
- March 21st, 2007: Koei released Musou Orochi
Now, if we look at the timeline, Naoe Kanetsugu was first introduced in Samurai Warriors 2 by KOEI, as a fairly serious figure and judging by how they like portraying the Tokugawa as the eventual villain, they team Kanetsugu up with Yukimura and Mitsunari, and they form the main Power Trio, which thanks to Yukimura being the poster boy, get to be the heroes.
Then come Sengoku Basara 2, Capcom implemented Kanetsugu... as the Joke Character who kept screaming "I'M INVINCIBLE!!/MUTEKI!!!".
Koei was mightily pissed.
So, come Warriors Orochi, Koei decidedly picked two of Basara's Power Trio of poster boys, Masamune and Keiji, and turn them into Orochi's underlings. They obviously can't do it with Yukimura since Yukimura is also their poster boy. This status quo continues to Warriors Orochi 2.
Now, Capcom has added fuel to the fire by making Mitsunari in Sengoku Basara 3 a screaming emo who is dark and has few morals. And Kanetsugu is STILL the Joke Character.
How will this rivalry continue?
- Well, I do not actually dislike Mitsunari. Looking at it from a sympathetic POV, the guy he viewed as a God figure died. Most likely Hideyoshi did something for Mitsunari that resulted in his current personality. I actually found this Mitsunari more interesting and conflicting than the weird honorable tactician who uses all kinds of strategies, then suddenly throws em away for honor on Sekigahara.
- Never mind that Capcom Mitsunari is more capable in battle and KOEI Mitsunari was never a poster boy. The one who got it hard is Kanbe: Brilliant strategist in Warriors and complete idiot in Basara.
- This may actually go way back before Sengoku Basara 2. Before that, there was Kessen 3, which gives Oda Nobunaga a sympathetic light. Which would be okay, if KOEI didn't include that one scene where Nobunaga slays Akechi Hidemitsu AKA Samanosuke, protagonist of Onimusha. Capcom did not take the treatment of their Onimusha's main protagonist well, so they retaliated with Kanetsugu's portrayal, continuing the fire.
- If the fire is also from Onimusha, then Chronicles 2nd continued it. Yagyu Munenori: In Warriors he's a just and honorable swordsman wanting the war to just end. In Onimusha, he's an utterly evil prick.
It's worth noting however that Samurai Warriors 3 treated Masamune much more sympathetically, while Capcom haven't taken any digs at SW 3 poster-girl Kaihime (aside from maybe not including her in the game).
- Although they did give a pretty blatant Take That! to Basara's portrayal of Motonari:Motonari: Please, be careful what you say. Reputations are easily made and lost. Who knows, history may record me as a cold-hearted, ruthless and brilliant tactician.Ginchiyo: I wouldn't worry about that. Historians tend to prefer the facts too much.
- Tachibana Muneshige speaks about his wife as if she is Memetic Badass who is a better samurai then he in almost everything - she was portrated very similarly by KOEI.
- Hojo Ujiyasu can be mentioned in Odawara's castle stage as a much more popular leader than his son. KOEI's Ujiyasu is Cool Old Guy and Capcom's Ujimasa is Grumpy Old Man. Do the math.
- This one looks like Insult Backfire: Utsunomiya Hirotsuna wants to be a Samurai Warrior. Too bad, KOEI doesn't make nobodies of whom even The Other Wiki has zero entry into their games cast.
- Not sure about that. The basis of Sengoku Basara 3 is Sekigahara. There's still the Osaka siege before Shimabara. Also, IIRC, Ieyasu would be long dead when Shimabara rolls in.
- Jossed. Nobunaga's the Big Bad again. Maybe in 4.
- He's not so much the Big Bad as a Bonus Boss/Giant Space Flea from Nowhere since he has nothing to do with the actual plot at hand. Technically Mitsunari is the Big Bad.
- Mitsunari always seemed more like a Anti-Hero Antagonist than the Big Bad. Both Yoshitsugu and Motonari fit the role much better considering they were manipulating him for their own goals.
- And Jossed again: Big Bad of Utage is Matsunaga.
In 3 it's revealed that she was in love with the previous Magoichi, and that she took over following his death.
- Jossed, Magoichi is a title, Saika is the clan name. Saika Magoichi can refer to three people historically. Magoichi is much like the Mongol's Kahn.
- Also, her story mode suggests that she was a child when the previous Magoichi was killed by Nobunaga.
- Her real name is Sayaka.
- We can only hope for him and Hidetada Tokugawa.
- Actually, it's Tenkai and Yoshitsugu. Yoshiaki, while a douchebag doesn't seem to be the kind to do things For the Evulz.
- That explains why the Date clan, who are the most biker gang-esque, are the poster boys!
- Hanzo is practically the ninjas who kept Ieyasu getting kidnapped before 3, all to shape both Ieyasu and Tadakatsu into the people they are right now.
- Big Bad: Toyotomi Hideyoshi
- The Dragon: Takenaka Hanbe
- The Brute: Ishida Mitsunari
- The Evil Genius: Otani Yoshitsugu
- The Dark Chick: Shima Sakon
- The Sixth Ranger / Token Good Teammate: Tokugawa Ieyasu
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