#2: Aug 20th 2018 at 11:28:39 PM
Clock is set.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
#3: Aug 24th 2018 at 11:46:34 PM
Clock is up; locking for inactivity/lack of consensus. No action is to be taken on the basis of this thread.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
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Early-Bird Cameo is having a definition problem for years. A rundown:
Issue 1
Since the trope definition changed dramatically and there has been no clean-up between transitions, the trope still shows examples for all three definitions: EBC, AEA and Teaser.Action items here could be:
Issue 2
This would leave us with the problem of the current definition of Early-Bird Cameo (first paragraph) and Chekhov's Gunman looking suspiciously similar.In the TRS thread from 2013 it was pointed out that there is a distinction between an early cameo and an early introduction of a character.
So, do you think the line is there and solid? A Chekhov's Gunman being is a minor character introduced early and later goes on to have a more important role in the story. Early-Bird Cameo being a nameless, nondescript individual where noticing them or not early on makes no difference for later plot developments.
P.S. I am ignoring here the discussion about the gun part of a Chekhov's Gunman character, namely that the character must become a plot resolver later and not merely a plot point as would be sufficient for a EBC character.
P.S.S. There is also Red Herring Shirt with a similar definition to Chekhov's Gunman which could use a better contrasting also.
edited 23rd Apr '18 6:29:10 PM by eroock