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- Given what White said at Toronto Comicon, this is most likely not happening for Jaleel. As for any of the other voice actors, who knows?
- It's been confirmed that Gary Chalk, who voiced Grounder in Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog and Robotnik in Sonic Underground, has a cameo in the scene where the military generals discuss Sonic's appearance, which definitely opens up the possibility of the film containing further cameos.
- Except Eggman is just a nickname given to him by Sonic and friends. His real name is Ivo Robotnik.
- Confirmed, (at least that they call him Robotnik in the film, not that his nickname is mocked).
- Confirmed... Though only for the sequel, actually. Well, that and Tails does show up in the second stinger of the first looking for Sonic.
- Jossed, no Chaos Emeralds or Metal Sonic plans appear in the movie at all.
- Hard to say, but the fans seem to be enjoying it and the reviews are mixed but positive overall. Not quite on par with Detective Pikachu but good in its own right.
- The possibility of him being the only animal character is seemingly jossed as of this Japanese commercial showing Baby Sonic before he was sent to Earth. In the background of the final shot, you can see several obscured figures that strongly resemble animal-people in tribal wear. It’s not clear as to whether they’re based on any specific Sonic characters, however.
- Jossed, the film shows a tribe of Echnidas early on trying to steal Sonic for his power, and Sonic has been cared for by Longclaw the Owl until Sonic came to earth. Tails also appears in the mid-credits scene.
- Confirmed, except they're already married. Jossed by the fact that Amy doesn't appear.
- Jossed — he's married to Maddie Wachowski.
- Jossed, no one gets turned into a robot.
- It would be even funnier if this was how Metal Sonic was created.
- Slightly Jossed? The regular military appear but that could be GUN without the black uniforms.
- Fully Jossed, this is the regular ol' U.S. Military, no sign or mention of GUN at all.
- Although it has formed GUN in the sequel.
- Fully Jossed, this is the regular ol' U.S. Military, no sign or mention of GUN at all.
- Jossed, at no point does the film dive into Robotnik's past. Although we do see Sonic as a child but he says he was born with his speed, there is no scene showing how he got it. No one wants to see Sonic's mother give birth, after all.
- Jossed, there is no mention of Robotnik's past or family, other than being an orphan.
- Also, this could happen with the next trailer, considering that he is now being redesigned.
- Confirmed in the movie proper, at the beginning Sonic talks to the audience while running from Robotnik telling the audience how the whole thing got started.
- Jossed, Robotnik (and his robots) are the only ones who have an active role in trying to catch Sonic.
- This should really happen. I can just imagine it...
- Robotnik: That promotion you asked for, Stone?
Stone: Yes?
Robotnik: Well, GENERAL Stone, I'll give you one hell of a prrrrrrrrmotion!
(Hall of the Mountain King plays)
- Jossed, nothing like that is mentioned and Dr. Robotnik at no point has any plans to turn people into robots.
- Confirmed! Tails appears in the mid-credits stinger, Knuckles doesn't appear but the Echnidas do in the beginning attempting to capture Sonic before he makes his way to Earth.
- Jossed. Sonic is blue as a child and says he was born with speed, and Robotnik's past isn't mentioned at all in the film, barring a small Noodle Incident in his school years where he left a bully eating through a straw for a year, and stating that he's an orphan when he first confronted Tom.
- YAAAAAS!
- Jossed.
- Given the way the fandom already acts, I wouldn't be surprised.
- Yes and no. Critic reviews are mixed to meh, but fans seem to really enjoy it so far. That can change, however.
- Probably Jossed : Robotnik seems to know nothing about Sonic.
- Definitely Jossed, Sonic was born on another planet and Robotnik is from Earth (as far as we are aware), but Robotnik knows nothing about Sonic until he meets him in the movie.
- Alternately, he will be called Robotnik until adopting "Eggman" as he did in the main continuity, possibly based on an insult by Sonic.
- Jossed, we never hear Robotnik's first name in the film. Robotnik also never adopts Eggman but Sonic does refer to him as such due to his egg-shaped robots.
- Jossed, at least in the first movie. At no point does any reference to other video game films or universes occur. Though The Flash is a comic book, but that mostly indicates The Flash and DC Universe at large are just that: comics.
- Alternatively, the huge mushroom field is in fact part of Mobius, the fictional world Sonic is sometimes said to inhabit. Sonic will return there at the end of the film, and Robotnik will follow him and end up stranded, becoming Sonic's full-time nemesis and assuming the classic Eggman look just before the credits roll.
- Furthermore, the mushroom field is actually the Mushroom Hill Zone, which may foreshadow the debut of Knuckles in a sequel, should they decide to go forward with it.
- Confirmed! Eggman is pushed into the Mushroom World, however no sign of Knuckles. Though an Echidna tribe appears in the beginning of the film trying to capture Sonic before he gets to Earth.
- Jossed; thanks to the redesign, he has the white gloves from the very beginning.
- Jossed: It hasn't bombed, and did incredibly well enough to make a sequel.
- Sort of confirmed? Sonic IS hailed as a hero but only to the small town of Green Hill, no one else seems to know he officially exists beyond the town, the government, and perhaps random citizens who came across Sonic during the film.
- Jossed.
- We may get a chance in the third movie.
- Jossed. He doesn't have any real solid "heroic" goals in mind.
- Jossed.
- Either Paramount had a backup design prepared for Sonic the entire time, just in case fans weren't happy with his look (which turned out to be true, to say the least) before the final movie.
- Or this was a massive publicity stunt. They released a terrible design for the trailer on purpose, going with a completely different look for the movie that is closer to his normal look, because they knew that fans would react so negatively that it would get everyone talking about it.
- Either way, this is a case of the Never Trust a Trailer trope being exploited by Paramount.
- Not only that, but the re-design will be based off of Classic Sonic.
- Alternatively, the new design will be a combination of his Classic and Modern designs, with the former's chubby body and the latter's green eyes. However, it wouldn't be too much of a stretch to see some aspects of the initial design for Sonic to be incorporated into the second design, including his buffness. After all, one would expect Sonic to look a little more like a guy who's into athletics, right?
- Jossed; Jeff Fowler has confirmed that the movie has been pushed back to February 2020.
- Jossed.
- Jossed.
- Jossed.
- Jossed (but a cool idea nonetheless). The second trailer shows that Sonic caused the blackout after running the bases on a baseball field one too many times.
- Jossed, Sonic was sent to Earth because a tribe of Echnidas wanted to capture him for his speed. Though we never know who they work for so that could be a possible sequel idea. Also Robotnik at no point visits Sonic's world.
- Jossed, Robotnik is the big bad. Though a tribe of Echidnas in the beginning of the movie do try to capture Sonic and kill his caretaker before Sonic makes it to Earth.
- Maybe good enough to make a sequel.
- And maybe even a few spin-off games set in said universe.
- Confirmed-ish? It has received mixed to positive reviews from critics and has GREAT reviews from audiences.
- Both confirmed and jossed. Sonic himself states that he is from another planet, but also says that he traveled to Earth of his own accord. Whether or not this world is Mobius is currently up for debate.
- Jossed when it comes to a love interest for Tom. He already has a wife.
- She might appear as an agent of GUN in the third movie.
- Jossed as of the second trailer. Sonic has his signature shoes now.
- Actually semi-confirmed: Sonic doesn't receive his signature shoes until about halfway through the movie, as a gift from Tom's niece.
- Jossed. Never happens.
- Confirmed, though he's actually on the Mushroom Planet.
- And he does shave bald.
- Or he invents The Roboticizer and after enslaving Mobius discovers the legend of the Chaos Emeralds.
- All Jossed, no Chaos Emeralds appear at all and no Roboticizer.
- Maybe Confirmed? He mentions eating a chili dog.
- Confirmed, in that he says it was great and also ate several of them on screen.
- Jossed.
- Confirmed.
- Jossed.
- Jossed.
- Sort of, though Robotnik is the only villain of Earth there are a tribe of Echidnas who try to capture Sonic in the beginning of the film before he makes his way to Earth.
- Jossed.
- And there should a dramatic orchestra version of the drowning theme, too, like in Sonic Colors.
- Jossed, though he does say he ran into the Pacific Ocean before making his way back to Tom in the same scene, but there's no mention of him drowning or that it was even a problem for him.
- Jossed. He shaves his head in the stinger.
- Sega had mandated that Sonic's planet not be named Mobius, but since they've basically disowned this movie, it might be possible.
- The planet is unnamed in the movie, the area that Sonic lives at resembles Green Hill Zone from the first Sonic game.
- Jossed. Sonic calls him Eggman because his robots are white and egg-shaped.
- Jossed.
- but oddly referenced, after Sonic wakes up from being knocked unconscious, he asks if The Rock is President.
- Confirmed! Sort of. At least one character doesn't believe Sonic is a Hedgehog.
- Jossed, they are hunting down Sonic to take him and his power. They kill Sonic's caretaker in the attempt. Most definitely not friendly.
- Jossed, never says it.
But why Longclaw took so much time in asking Tails to find Sonic? Perhaps because time in Sonic's world doesn't work like the time of Earth. Maybe ten years have passed since Sonic arrived on Earth, but in his world maybe it's only been ten minutes or ten hours since Sonic left.
- The idea that Longclaw may have survived was actually used in a Deleted Scene from an alternate version in which she also enters through the portal and stays on Earth with him until she dies of old age. This would discard the possibility that Tails was asked to search for Sonic by her. However, this is evidently not the case in the finished movie and if that scene was deleted, maybe it was because of this possibility?
- Another reason that Longclaw took so long might be that the Rings are not as common as Sonic thinks they are, and that it took a long time for Longclaw or Tails to find more. But by that point enough time could have passed that they couldn't be sure that Sonic was on Earth anymore and they didn't have enough Rings to waste checking all the other planets he could be on. Until Tails made his scanner and could finally pinpoint his location.
- The Echidna tribe is hunting him. In other continuities they are generally benevolent (Knuckles being the exception), but are very keen on protecting the Chaos Emeralds. If Sonic were one of them, it would make sense that they would go after him.
- When Robotnik scans Sonic's quill, his computer says the power is "Unlimited". Sonic is traditionally powerful, but unlimited power is more the domain of the Chaos Emeralds.
- Sonic's eyes glow blue when he accesses his full power.
- Sonic recovers from being apparently dead in the finale.
- Baby Sonic ate (or just touched) the Blue Emerald, and it absorbed into him, granting his wish to be fast (maybe he was brown before that like in the comics)?
- Baby Sonic was mortally injured in a fight over the Blue Emerald, and it responded to his wish to live, merging with him?
- Or one of the people fighting (Longclaw? an echidna?) over the Blue Emerald used it to save him and use surprised when it absorbed into him.
- Someone was experimenting on the Emeralds, and somehow caused the Blue Emerald to incarnate into Sonic?
- Perhaps it could work like the Infinity Stones, where assorted objects/characters turn out to be Chaos Emeralds? The Golden Axe being the Yellow Emerald, Sig’s hand being the red one...
- Or Sonic's friends, like Tails (yellow emerald), Knuckles (red emerald) and Amy (pink emerald).
- Pretty similar to the earlier claim, just less overt. Sonic's powers come from the blue (or any other) Chaos Emerald, and are basically this continuities version of "Chaos control" and the echidna's are just trying to take it back. This is more like how Captain Marvel has power from the Power Stone, but isn't actually the Power Stone.
- This could have left the Blue Chaos Emerald completely inert, and the echidnas are trying to restore it, or it could still be functioning at full power (since half of unlimited is still unlimited) and the echidnas just don't want any chaos energy out in the world.
- Or, there is a small village home to a magic school, with inhabitants practicing magic through puzzles consisting of dropping slime pieces. Robotnik will believe Accord is the princess due to her apparent authority.
- Confirmed by Tyson Hesse on twitter.
It is normally rare for Sonic to have differing forms between continuities if not nonexistent as the only Sonic variants that outright lake a powered-up state let alone Super Sonic are AOSTH, SatAM (unless you count the power rings), Underground, OVA, and Boom.
Perhaps to have this version of the character stand out his empowered state empowers him with a mass electrical charge that does not require an outward source.
This mostly comes to mind with how Sonic's electrical state is based on his emotion, bringing to mind "Thoughts into Power."
That said, Chaos Emeralds and Super Sonic in a sequel will instantly joss this theory.
- The government will say the blackout was because he was using an overpowered EMP device and framed Tom for it when he found evidence of his involvement.
Sonic Movie 2 Predictions
Then we cut to earth where Sonic is chasing some guy around town who was actually running from Tom and gets caught by Sonic. Tom looks at Sonic who tries to congratulate Tom but Sonic gets scolded by him for being out too long. Then we cut to the two at home with Sonic trying to tell Tome to lighten up wile Maddie is on the phone with Rachel. She gets off the phone to tell Sonic that Jojo says hi and wants to spend some time together. Sonic agrees and jokes that he can do it now. Then later Tails shows up looking for Sonic. Tails tells Sonic what’s going on while Maddie jokes that she’ll make dinner to go. Tails goes over how the Echidnas are taking control of there worlds with the power of the chaos emeralds. Tails then goes on about how the emeralds work and how with all of them combined can unleash a power bigger then any other. Then Randle (Tomes friend) comes over to ask how things are going while Tom tells Tails to hide saying that he doesn’t want to explain more aliens to the government. Tom Sonic and Randal talk for a wile while Tails slips up from his hiding spot. So Tom shoves Randle out and tells Tails that there in for another adventure.
Eventually Tom Sonic and Tails all get ready for the trip while Maddie tells them to be safe then the three head off using a ring to Emerald Hills to start there adventure. The three end up in different places like, the home to the Echidna tribe, a under ground mine(this one is based on a dream I hade where the move is about Sonic mining for rings in a cave.) a beach side, and finally the Mushroom Planet.
Then the Echidna tribe runs into Robotnik in the Mushroom hills and Pachacamac forms a friendship for Robotnik while telling him about the emeralds. Robotnik with a ring recruiters Agent Stone and tells him what’s going one then makes a joke about working with animals. The tribe helps Robotnik with building a new lab and in exchange Robotnik helps them look for the emeralds. Knuckles is hesitant about working with Robotnik but Pachacamac tells him to reman loyal. In the presses Robotnik studies the emerald and learns interesting things about it.
At some point while the Echidnas are looking for the emeralds they run into Sonic and the gang. There is a fight between the groups ending with Pachacamac getting seriously injected and the Echidnas leaving with out Knuckles who is knocked out. When Knuckles wakes we see that Tom and tailed has tithed him up and use him as a way to get the other emeralds. Eventually Knuckles befriends Sonic and the gang then learns the dangers Robotnik has done. All four head out with a ring to stop Robotnik.
When Sonic gets ahold of a emerald Knuckles snatches it from he claiming that he is still loyal to his tribe. Tails demands it back while Tom (or Sonic) makes a heats felt speech about identity and being your own person.
Next we see Pachacamac laying injured in front of Robotnik on life support with Stone by his side asking if he can fix him. Robotnik says yes and with the help of the chaos emerald revived Pachacamac with a red electric laser. When Pachacamac gets up Robotnik laughs while Stone looks with shock.
In the end Sonic and The Team confront Robotnik (who has all the emeralds and is in a more monstrous egg pod) and the Echidnas. Robotnik gloats about creating the future while opening a hatch with Pachacamac stepping out of it. He is now half (or Full) robot with glowing red eyes and charges at Sonic. But Knuckles blocks the attack and tells Sonic to get Robotnik the two fight with equal power. Then Tom and Tails try and look for a way to sabotage The egg pod. Sonic attacks the Egg Pod like in the first movie but learns that Robotnik made some improvements and was able to beat Sonic. So Sonic needed a different strategy and brakes the emeralds off of the egg pod. After Knuckles beats Pachacamac He joins Sonic in collecting the emeralds from Robotnik. Eventually Sonic is able to use the Chaos emeralds and goes Super Sonic while Robotnik jokes that he planed for this moment and his Egg Pod sprouts arms and becomes Big Arm from Sonic 3. The two fight in equal footing until Sonic wins and tries to kill Robotnik in a fit of chaotic insanity until Tom reminds him of who he is witch makes Sonic power down.
Later Sonic Tom and Maddie invite Tails and Knuckles to live with them as one big family. Tails agrees but Knuckles declines and saying that he has a responsibility to guard the emeralds and heads out with the emeralds.
Later Robotnik escapes with a ring (and maybe a emerald) to meet with Stone telling him that turning animals into robots is good but if he needs to beat Sonic he needs to fight fire with fire and it ends with the reveal that he has invented Metal Sonic.
- I tried to make this story with basic ideas in mind and with what we know so far (that they are filming in a tropical environment, Robotnik strongly being a antagonist again, Tails and Knuckles being in it). I don’t expect every thing here to be made but I do expect one or two ideas to be implemented.
- Despite the fact he was happy with his new family, he faces the facts that he's wanted by the Government and his powers are far beyond human-kind. He contemplates for a few seconds and accepts his decision after he's had a good life on Earth, so he says goodbye to the Wachowskis and leaves with Tails and company.
- Hopefully jossed as it would go against the ending of this movie where Sonic finally finds a home and a family on this planet after spending most of his life there. It would fall back on just Sonic not being safe on Earth and he could just go to visit there on Mobius.
- True, but the government could still be on Sonic's tail on Earth.
- Ultimately, I also doubt this would happen. The ending of the first film shows that the government is okay with giving Sonic a live-and-let-live treatment, and since he beat their resident Godzilla Threshold and ticking time bomb Robotnik before he could conquer the world, changing that could potentially bite them in the ass given Sonic's powers. And once again, playing this entire scenario straight would be a massive disservice to the first film's themes and character development, essentially making the film universe closer to the games but having the actual storytelling quality of the film series suffer as a result.
- How is having powers far beyond humankind a negative? If anything, I'd say that's a reason he should stay on Earth, since being more powerful than any member of the dominant species means someone with bad intentions is less likely to pose a threat.
- Hopefully jossed as it would go against the ending of this movie where Sonic finally finds a home and a family on this planet after spending most of his life there. It would fall back on just Sonic not being safe on Earth and he could just go to visit there on Mobius.
- Confirmed for Tails, Knuckles, and for the Stinger, Shadow, everything else is jossed.
- Jossed, although Sonic calls him Eggman again.
- Semi-jossed; Knuckles antagonizes Sonic, but Sonic doesn't bear much ill-will to Knuckles for being an Echidna. They do end up being enemies for most of the film, just not for that reason.
- Sonic meeting Tails and fighting Knuckles and a returned Robotnik is confirmed, and Shadow's appearance in the Stinger means this is likely. Still no news on Metal Sonic however.
- Dwayne Johnson as Knuckles the Echidna (Mainly because I think that's what's one everyone's mind, also could be, like, a Casting Gag)
- Jossed: Idris Elba was cast instead.
- Mae Whitman as Amy Rose (Mostly looking for a voice that won't make Movie Amy sound obnoxious, and for a Celebrity Voice Actor that has a career in voice acting.)
- Keanu Reeves as Shadow the Hedgehog (Been in my head when someone had that thought.)
- Chris Pratt as Vector the Crocodile (Mainly because I think he would be great as Vector's voice and fit well with his personality as The Leader lecherous, Manchild and Jerk with a Heart of Gold as was Star-Lord.)
- Worst/most frightening of all, Sonic will have to babysit.
- Tika Sumpter herself has expressed in an interview for the sequel that she's not up for Maddie spending a movie "on the phone" or "pregnant" since that would debilitate her potential to be an active character. Hence, this may be jossed with enough time.
- Tails will be involved and Robotnik makes his way to Sonic’s world somehow, he finds the Echidna Tribe and manages to convince them to work with him.
- Semi-confirmed in the sense that there are elements of 2 (meeting Tails for the first time, Super Sonic, the Death Egg Robot) along with 3 (Knuckles and the plot of the Master Emerald).
Robotnik in this continuity has no clear indication that he plans for world domination like his other counterparts, in fact for the most part he speaks about how superior machines are to organics.
It is quite clear as well that he sees Sonic as an inferior and far primitive creature with how he treats him as a test subject then a living being so it would totally be within the character of this petty man to create Metal Sonic in order to just prove a point that a robotic Sonic is much faster, stronger and more capable then the real thing.
Should they come out with the sequel, we will eventually be given a reason: Sonic's Super-Speed is a direct result of being tapped into the Emerald's power, much like how Chaos was just a chao before the Chaos Emeralds turned him into a god. This would explain why the Echidnas are so invested in getting Sonic; because he is a conduit for the Chaos/Master Emerald(s) and hope to use him for it.
- It would also explain why Sonic (in the games and shows) is so easily able to harness the Chaos Emerald's power.
- To add to this, this troper has heard from a secondary source that the novelization for the movie discusses Sonic as having "Chaos-like energies". Whether this and other information from the book is truly canon to the movie's universe is unclear.
- It would explain his mysterious electric powers being powered by emotions, as the Chaos Emeralds are driven by emotions in the games as shown with Chaos using the negative energy to turn into Perfect Chaos or Sonic turning Super using the positive energy (in fact, this troper thinks that his electric powers is actually some sort of Chaos Energy that he somehow obtained from the emeralds).
Should they ever make a sequel, Robotnik will eventually escape the Mushroom Planet and either go back to Earth for revenge or went to Mobius (hense why Tails is trying to find Sonic). He will reveal that he got ahold of his own bag of rings and plans on using them to conquer other worlds. When asked how he got ahold of them, he will answer that he came across a race of mushroom people and ransomed their princess for them.
Sonic did mention that all space-faring creatures had rings, so odds are the indigenous race of a planet on Sonic's map could have them.
- Except, according to Sonic and Robotnik, it's uninhabited and the only things on the planet are breathable air and edible mushrooms.
- Unless the movie's a stealth prequel to a version of Super Mario Bros, and the entire population of the Mushroom Kingdom ends up existing because of something Robotnik does there.
- Ecolo becoming the equivalent of Loki would be a nice way to tie this together.
- Co-writer Pat Casey, while he says he thinks it's "unlikely", has expressed interest in creating a Shared Universe with properties from both Sega and Nintendo.
- Jossed, he already had the nickname Tails when he meets Sonic.
- As stated in an above WMG, Tika Sumpter specifically requested that Maddie would not be subjected to ideas akin to this one, including spending the movie being "on the phone" or "pregnant", and the lack of indication of this theory in the sequel's promotional material means that this theory is jossed.
- The reason why Tails came to Earth in The Stinger? Sonic's the only one known to have beaten Robotnik before, and he desperately needs his help before it's too late.
- That doesn't seem too likely given that it's implied Tails shows up very shortly after the events of the movie.
- There isn't really any indication of how long after the movie Tails shows up, given how no other characters or elements are in the scene.
- That doesn't seem too likely given that it's implied Tails shows up very shortly after the events of the movie.
- Semi-confirmed, with the exception of the Death Egg. However, the climax features a giant robot similar to the Death Egg Robot.
- Furthermore, Silver would be given ice powers so that the three hedgehog form a Fire, Ice, Lightning trio.
- Alternatively, should she not adopt Amy, she may be driven into becoming a full-blown villain by these antics.
- Alternatively alternatively, Instead of Amy, Rachel may find herself taking in Team Chaotix. Wacky antics ensue, to Jojo's delight and Rachel's dismay.
- As the Team Mom, she may also take cues from Vanilla.
- Mushroom Hill is, after all, the first level in Sonic & Knuckles. Actually...
- Danica Patrick
- Jaleel White
- Long John Baldry (while he sadly can't appear in person, maybe Robotnik could listen to one of Baldry's songs.)
- Yuji Naka
- To expand on his character (since his game counterpart only made brief appearances) and set himself apart from Robotnik. Pachacamac will be a more serious and soft-spoken villain that goes as far as to fall under Knightof Cerebus territory (with maybe a few Comically Serious moments when sharing screentime with the Mad Doctor). Pachacamac may be calm, polite, mature, and even A Father to His Men (even having a Like a Son to Me relationship with Knuckles) to contrast Eggman's Bad Boss tendencies. But this could be balanced out with the Chief expressing Tranquil Fury when something displeases him. The Chief may also contrast Eggman in that he doesn't want to do a Milking the Monster plan with Sonic quills, but rather, he wants to enslave Sonic himself by either brainwashing or blackmailing him into becoming Pachacamac's weapon for conquest. He'll be quick to go after Sonic's friends (including Tom and Maddie) and may threaten to harm them in response to Sonic defying or evading him. Pachacamac may still be abusive to Tikal, but may be more emotionally abusive compared to his game counterpart and acting so out of the belief that Tikal needs to abandon her innocence and compassion to be worthy of succeeding him as leader of the Echidna Tribe.
- To further contrast himself from Robotnik, Pachacamac be villainous version of The Social Expert, someone who knows how to talk to people into doing something that's in his favor and get a read on them so he knows what to say and how to say it. A team-up between him and Robotnik may have him get Robotnik to think he's in charge and use Robotnik's ego to subtly convince him to do certain things by making him think they're his idea.
- Pachacamac may also be portrayed as an Evil Counterpart to Tom Wachowski, with both of them being authority figures their respective communities greatly respect and look up to. But while Tom is a Reasonable Authority Figure who once considered leaving due to Small Town Boredom and is considered an adoptive varient of a Good Parent to Sonic, Pachacamac may be a tyrant who secures loyalty from his subjects by appealing to fear and convincing them his more unpleasant laws are at worst Necessarily Evil. Not to mention The Chief may likely be an Abusive Parent to Tikal and/or anyone else he considers under his care.
- On the other hand, his speech about his insanity being absolute followed by "Right Agent Stone?" and the cut to the new Agent Stone is a classic comedy beat, so until a sequel comes out it could go either way. And then there's the fact that he's also chiding inanimate mushrooms for not laughing at his pun. It's been suggested by some fans online that Robotnik has been munching on some mushrooms.
- A giant mech suit built in his image. Think the Rhino suit from The Amazing Spider-Man 2 but with a mechanical Eggman face.
- Confirmed!
- An upgraded Eggmobile with a huge ball and chain, a retractable spike, or a spout that drops mines/bombs.
- A giant drill vehicle, which he can use to tunnel underground and out of the public's radar.
- A huge walker robot. Perhaps Tails can help Sonic fight it as an added Mythology Gag.
- The film's version of Metal Sonic. He does have one of the real Sonic's quills, after all.
- Jossed: it's indicated through promo material that Tom and Maddie spend a portion of the sequel in Hawaii for Rachel's wedding.
- Alternatively, upon Sonic and Longclaw meeting each other again, Longclaw may attempt to scold Sonic for disobeying her instructions only for Tom to step between them and call Longclaw out on her words and the consequences that followed. A heated debate between Tom and Longclaw ensues with both of them bringing valid points.
- Also alternatively (or in addition to the above possible events) Sonic may actually (with maybe some reluctance) side with Tom in his debate with Longclaw, with Sonic trying to get Longclaw to see how her advice became outdated (due to his persuers already knowing about all the places he could hide in and/or because he successfully managed to build a proper life for himself despite the risks) and tells her he can't bear the thought of going back to living in isolation even if it's still a feasible option. Longclaw may either come to respect Sonic's decision or his words may trigger enough natural fears in Longclaw that it may cause some strife between them.
- Sonic, Robotnik, and Knuckles will each have one at the beginning and the whole story will be about collecting all seven of them.
- Robotnik will use one of the emeralds to create Metal Sonic. And he will act like the real Sonic much to annoyance of Robotnik.
- Semi-confirmed: the sequel is all about Robotnik planning to harness the Master Emerald's power, with Knuckles on his side and Sonic opposing him.
- Robotnik will invent a Roboticizer.
- Robotnik will drain the super speed from sonic so he can out run him.
- Given how the Tribe has been established, it's possible they took in Tails (be it through adoption or kidnaping) and forced him to use his mechanical talents to help serve their cause. Tails may have had to live with either Tikal (who either acts a straight-up Parental Substitute or a Cool Big Sis and one of the few people who strictly treat him with kindness) or Pachacamac (who may be an abusive adoptive grandfather to him). Tails may have had to put up with the Tribe ridiculing or bullying him for lacking any interest in their warrior ways or they perceive him as a weakling. Such a painful environment could serve as a factor for Tails later wanting to stay with Sonic and the Wachowskis after finding out they're a far better family to each other than most of the Echidnas ever were to him.
- Given he apparently has similar Super-Speed to Sonic, it's possible Tails managed to hide his powers right under the Encidna Tribe's noses or they did ind out and Tails managed to escape before they could weaponize. This could serve as justification for why Tails is looking for Sonic; either in the hopes Sonic will teach him how to use his speed powers, or to convince Sonic to help him defeat the Encidna Tribe's tyranny.
- I see nothing to suggest he has super speed, just that he could fly very well with his tails.
- He did so with a yellow streak following him that's similar to the blue streak Sonic leaves when he runs, implying Tails has abilities similar to Sonic.
- It's never stated that the Echidnas are exclusively pursuing individuals with super speed. Tails has two tails strong enough to break metal and can fly, so they're probably after any sort of Mobian with special powers.
- Given he apparently has similar Super-Speed to Sonic, it's possible Tails managed to hide his powers right under the Encidna Tribe's noses or they did ind out and Tails managed to escape before they could weaponize. This could serve as justification for why Tails is looking for Sonic; either in the hopes Sonic will teach him how to use his speed powers, or to convince Sonic to help him defeat the Encidna Tribe's tyranny.
- If he does appear in the sequel he could be a villain which he rarely does. He could be a hunter or a soldier who is an over the top parody fo the usual action roles the Rock has played. He could be convicted he is a hero hunting down an alien threat.
- Knuckles could have two contrasting mentors in the form of Tikal and Pachacamac. Tikal could be something of a Big Sister Mentor who tries to appeal to Knuckles' sense of compassion and decency and tries to rein in his Hot-Blooded tendencies, which may annoy him. Pachacamac meanwhile, may have a Like a Son to Me relationship with Knux and tries to encourage his more warrior-like traits, with the downside of Pachacamac holding him in some contempt for his gullibility and perceived stupidity, something that might get portrayed as a Villain Has a Point moment.
- Perhaps the Dark Prince, as a nod to his ownership of Carby in the Madou Monogatari series?
- He learned to drive a car pretty fast so he could do the same with a plane, bonus points if it is a red biplane.
- Unconfirmed, but it's shown that at least Tails will— and said plane is a dead-ringer for the Tornado, too!
- Shadow the Hedgehog is just a clone of Sonic made through tech or magic even who allies with Eggman.
- Rouge the Bat takes notes from Nack the Weasel/Fang the Sniper and is strictly a mercenary who aids Eggman or another antagonist for jewels. The Babylon Rogues could be the same way.
- What backstory for Angel Island in Sonic 3? Plus they can make the Adventure elements work in this verse like they did with Sonic Adventure since the story is partially like Sonic running from the military in the opening scene of the game.
- The one in the actual manual. And the movie makers went out of their way to show that the American government isn't "evil" and that Eggman was abusing his position (with the same government relieved to see him gone), even implying the general knew Tom was hiding Sonic but left them be (be it out of gratitude or just realizing that he has nothing to gain from antagonizing a friendly alien). Compare with how cartoonishly evil G.U.N. is portrayed in their first game (even if ST did remove or tone down that element in Shadow's game and 06). Do you expect them to include hilariously edgy bits like Black Doom or for Shadow to get in just as he was in the games?
- What backstory for Angel Island in Sonic 3? Plus they can make the Adventure elements work in this verse like they did with Sonic Adventure since the story is partially like Sonic running from the military in the opening scene of the game.
- Blaze would be the fourth Chaotix member.
- And how would our favorite Mobians fit in with the very Earth we're familiar with? Sonic and Tails live together like brothers with the Wachowskis in the rural town of Green Hills, Montana, carrying out odd jobs to help the small town. Knuckles and the Echidna Tribe operate their own emerald mine in Oregon. Amy lives out in Billings, Montana, enjoying city life while visiting Sonic regularly. Cream and her mother live somewhere in the Rocky Mountains in Colorado. Shadow's a U.S. army soldier living a quiet life in Little Rock, Arkansas, by the grave of his human friend, Maria Robotnik, a preteen girl who was Robotnik's niece and was killed in a robot attack. Rouge's a CIA agent based in Washington D.C. Blaze dwells her "royal" life in the Beverly Hills, California (and still goes to the Sol Planet regularly). Silver has settled in Las Vegas, the Silver State and likes to sightsee the Strip, despite having comepletely no interests in vices such as gambling. Big lives in Maine and competes in fishing. Team Chaotix huddles in Florida where their annual summer vacations are to Walt Disney World. The Babylon Rogues live in a blimp they stole from the Sol Planet and travel around the around, settling in notable cities such as London, Paris, and Tokyo, but like to gather in American ones such as New York City and Los Angeles.
When Robotnik attacks the Sol Planet (yep, Robotnik is also hellbent on taking over the galaxy), Sonic and friends follow him there and meets Blaze. Silver falls in love with her and takes her to Earth and introduces her to the Earth ways of life.
- Tails - A young fox who was disowned by his community for being born with two tails, and then kept in hiding by an owl warrioress (most likely Longclaw) also because of his great power the Echidna Tribe sought. He utilizes his Super-Intelligence and warp rings to explore Earth and replicate their technology. He hears rumors of Sonic and decides to find him on Earth.
- Knuckles - Part of the Echidna Clan, he was chosen at birth to guard the Clan's very sacred Master Emerald. He had a sister named Tikal who was killed during the events of the first film and is resurrected as a ghost. Robotnik later finds Knuckles to be the strongest and fastest of the Clan and orders him to carry on the Clan's mission of finding Sonic.
- Amy - A simple village girl who lived out in a Mobian village on mainland. As the Farmer's Daughter, she would farm the crops every day, sporting a simple leather dress dyed in red, and take a break in the evening by fortune telling. When Robotnik attacked the village one day, Sonic rescued her from Robotnik, who was intending to dissect her. It was Love at First Sight.
- Shadow - Actually not naturally from Sonic's planet, but created by Robotnik by combining blood extracted from Sonic after an encounter and blood collected from a Mushroom Planet alien he slaughtered. Robotnik uses Shadow to carry out tough deeds against Sonic, but Sonic and his friends eventually convince him to join their side.
- Rouge - She made her living thieving the world's most precious jewels, distracting their captors with her skimpy linen bikini. Sometimes, if she heard of a precious jewel being buried underground, she would put on her leather arm wrappings and leggings and dig with help of her bat instincts. Ever since Knuckles and Rouge met when she tried to steal the Master Emerald, it was a love-and-hate relationship. Robotnik later bribes her with a $1-billion-worth topaz (from the Mushroom Planet) to side with him, as well as gives her a catsuit to cover up more skin.
- Alternatively, Rouge may have started out as a young urchin who had to resort to thievery to survive, graduating to her jewel thievery after perfecting her skills. She'll escape from Mobius to Earth after a ruined scheme puts locals on a warpath to catch her. She finds herself in Green Hills and goes back to thievery by stealing jewels here, until Tom, with help from Sonic and friends, successfully catches her. Feeling cheeky (and probably getting used to adopting several Mobians by this point), Tom may put Rouge on a unique form of probation by adopting her as his teenaged bat daughter. Rouge may play along at first and even sometimes pull a Bratty Teenage Daughter act to troll Tom. Rouge may run away after figuring she'd be more comfortable living independently and later strikes a deal to work for the US Government in exchange for autonomy and pardons for any crimes she commits.
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- Silver - A member of a Resistance group from a Bad Future where Robotnik won. Using a time machine designed by the movie version of Eggman Nega, he travels back in time to help Sonic fight Robotnik and prevent said future from happening.
- Blaze - The Princess of the Kingdom of the Sol Planet, part of the long-reigning royal cat family. Like Knuckles, she was chosen to guard the Jeweled Scepter, with the help of her realistic koala guards. She is bored with her idle royal life until Robotnik attacks and steals the Scepter. She reveals to Sonic and friends of her secret pyrokinetic power, which she kept as a secret since her kittenhood.
- Alternatively, in stark contrast to Sonic's backstory, The Sol Kingdom may be given some Adaptational Villainy with Blaze's family and kingdom forcing her since kittenhood to use her powers to attack and help invade other nations, making her start out as a reluctant Anti-Villain Child Soldier. To balance this, Blaze may be constantly trying to spare what lives she can from her attacks. Depending on how her family is controlling her, she may also be working to free herself from whatever shackles bind her into becoming a weapon and either usurp control of her kingdom to reform its evil ways, or be forced abandon her kingdom and sabotage its Ring production to prevent it from invading any more planets. If the latter is picked, She may decide to stay on Earth with Sonic to start a new life (especially if he plays a role in Blaze's quest for redemption).
- Marine - In an example of Adaptational Badass, Marine could have powers like Blaze and find herself... "adopted" by the Sol Empire royal family, thus giving her and Blaze a more official siserly relationship. If the Sol Empire gets Adaptational Villainy (see Blaze's second entry above), Marine's adoption could be viewed as Blaze's parents performing an act of Pragmatic Villainy; attempting to make Marine comfortable with her new royal status to make her more willing to weaponize her powers on their behalf. Blaze may not take kindly to the idea to Marine getting blood on her hands and Blaze would promptly take Marine with her when she deflects to the good guys.
- Big
- Cream
- The Chaotix
- Babylon Rogues
- Even funnier if he gives it a voice box taken from a little girl's doll or something, for the sake of making a robot that goes "I want hugs!" while trying to kill you.
- Also, in a subversion of the original image, it won't be just or any fat involved but mostly muscle that makes up for his bulky figure (judging from how he spends his time throwing a heavy boulder around wherever he goes the last time we saw him and a protein source in form of the mushrooms, he's going to build up a lot of raw strength up until the next encounter with Sonic in the future. Especially if he starts picking up bigger and bigger boulders to keep the weight of "Stone" consistent to the strain of throwing "him" around.)
- Confirmed!
- Sonic 2 will have Knuckles as an antagonist, only for him and Sonic to team up after Robotnik unleashes Metal Sonic.
- Sonic 3 will have Shadow and Rouge as the main villains. Shadow will hold a grudge against Robotnik because of what his grandfather had done to him, and he'll be forced to form an Enemy Mine with Sonic to stop him.
- Silver could be some sort of empowered hedgehog with powers of mysterious origins much like Sonic himself and much like in the video games. He could serve as the leader of La Résistance ala John Connor and as Last of His Kind, helping the rebellion of Mobius (or what other name they give Sonic's homeworld) against The Empire led by Eggman Nega.
- Blaze could serve as The Lancer to Silver's role as The Leader, though in an interesting twist be Eggman Nega's primary nemesis like back in Sonic Rush. She could've been an experiment by Eggman Nega For Science! to help create his ultimate paradise, but something could've gone horribly wrong when she tried (perhaps Death by Origin Story could be at play here) and decided to go against Nega instead of ally with him out of righteous vengeance, running into Silver's resistance along the way.
- Eggman Nega could be some sort of descendant of Robotnik from an unknown time, deciding to live up to and surpass his grandfather's Villainous Legacy to roboticize Sonic's world and its inhabitants into a new form of Badnik drones (perhaps resembling anthropomorphic animals and powered by the creatures of the world like the traditional Badniks in the games) and "upgrade" their lives. However, while he could see that his grandfather was flawed, and though he believes what he is doing is best for all, his Fatal Flaw of pride (ironically inherited by Robotnik), perhaps preceded by being shunned by the scientific community on Earth could get in the way of what he believes to be a true utopia.
- Even better would be if Nega adopts an outfit (if not the girth) similar to his original design, with a few adjustments; his flight suit could be turned into a throwback black inverness coat with a yellow cape and a red undersuit, alluding to Eggman's classic design as well as Nega's own; while Robotnik has the flight goggles, Nega could adopt some Round Hippie Shades; and finally, he could adopt white Tricked-Out Gloves as opposed to his ancestor's black ones, furthering the resemblance to the original design while keeping the movie aesthetic.
- The three of them could easily be thrown into a plot like a loving tribute to the original Terminator films; Eggman Nega could surprisingly be winning the war against Silver and Blaze's rebellion, and have constructed a machine that grants Time Travel because It Amused Me. Once Silver and Blaze discover this, they could use the machine to travel back in time and try to stop Eggman Nega from conquering the world; Nega could throw a wrench in their plans by stating that the time machine isn't even finished, so they're instead sent farther back than they expected and arrive in present-day, where they interact with Sonic, Tom, and whoever else is still involved and willing at this point in time to help them get back to the future. In the meantime, Nega could travel back himself, after going insane having spent years perfecting the time machine (and thus looking slightly older and dirtier as a result), and follows Silver and Blaze's last known temporal coordinates to the past to prevent their interference, leading to him interacting with his ancestor Robotnik in a Big Bad Duumvirate, combining Robotnik's already-formidable tech with Nega's upgraded versions of even that (and perhaps seeing how he's become not so different from Robotnik in the process). So now Sonic, Silver, Blaze, and the rest of the team must stop Robotnik and Nega to preserve the present and save the future.
- The movie studio may very well want Tails to be played by an actor known for live-action work if the character is going to have a full appearance in the next movie. Could go either way since Ben Schwartz did live action work prior to voicing new versions of blue-themed cartoon characters from the 80's and 90's.
- Jossed: Colleen O'Shaughnessy is reprising her role.
- If they do replace Colleen O'Shaughnessy from the first movie, I hope they use a child actor like they did in Tails' earlier voiced appearances.
- Jossed: Colleen O'Shaughnessy is reprising her role.
- Alternatively, Sonic will say, "Forget it, kid. No-one here can agree on what you're supposed to say."
- And before long, humans will finally begin colonizing other planets, thanks to the newly-found means of instantaneous travel both on and off Earth that will certainly become commonplace...right?
In the movie, it is expressly mentioned that Ivo is an orphan. With a man gifted in robotics and No Social Skills, it is likely that Ivo had his own fair share of inspirations and favorite information sources growing up, much in the same way that antisocial children in real life take inspiration from their favorite musicians or actors or fictional heroes, and Gerald (who in the games had created a fully-functioning space station half the size of the moon, various cyborganic lifeforms, an immortal mobian and a Death Ray that could potentially destroy a planet) sounds exactly like the kind of guy that a robot-crazy misanthrope like Ivo would latch onto. It is even likely that he chose his own last name (or had it changed when he was old enough) as a way to make himself like his idol.
- Tails will have some aerokinetic abilities to compliment his trademark flight.
- Knuckles will have terrakinesis to compliment his strength and to pay homage to his Sonic Battle moveset.
- Amy, in addition to using his trademark hammer, will possess limited pre-cognition (somewhat tying in to her mainstream counterpart's tarot card hobby) allowing her to predict a few seconds in advance what people will do and capitalize on it. She may use it in combination with carrying Super-Speed comparable to Sonic's to help her actually succeed in catching him whenver she takes up stalking him.
- Rouge will have darkness-related powers, as a nod to her "Black Wave" attack in Adventure 2 and fitting for a nocturnal animal like a bat, not to mention her reliance on stealth.
- Cream will possess the ability to speak to non-sentient creatures, tying somewhat to her ability to talk to her pet Chao Cheese. This power may be laughed off first by both heroes and villains alike, until badniks attack her and she reveals she can weaponize this power by commanding non-sentient animals to attack on her behalf.
- Cream's mother Vanilla, in a mix of Composite Character and Adaptational Badass, may be given a Healing Hands ability that traditionally has been to Cream in the spin-off games. Vanilla will prove that in pinch she can weaponize her power as a delibrate Harmful Healing ability that can disable whoever wishes her harm. This ability may also help her forge a friendship with Maddie, with both of them serving the role as The Medic to the heroes.
- Tikal may develop the ability to sense and control emotions like Mantis, but instead of putting foes to sleep, she may prefer to use it help her counsel people on their emotional problems and only weaponize it if she absolutely has to.
- Marine may possess Hydrokinesis to tie in to making of the aquatic motifs in her character and backstory, as well as make her more of a contrasting foil to Blaze, who has Pyrokinesis.
- The solder that accidentally shoots Maria sees the good in Shadow before taking the shot and is revealed to be a young Commander Walters.
- That’s why he’s so up front in befriending Sonic in the end of the first film.
- In the end Maria is revealed to survive as a old lady who is visited by a reformed Shadow (or Sonic) who is handed a secret photo of her, Shadow, Gerald.
- Robotnik will discover Shadow and fix him up by making him half robot.
- This results in a explanation about his signature memory problems and rocket shoes.
- Shadow is the one who programmed the space station to blow up earth not Gerald. Because of his hatred for humanity and the loss of Maria.
- This movie is more like a hist film and be about how Sonic and his friends have to infiltrate a lauding station in order to get to the space station.
- the reason they don’t use the rings to get on is because of the station’s security and not knowing what inside looks like.
- Robotnik Kidnaps Jojo as a hostage to keep sonic from getting to them.
- Shadow develops a friendship with her resulting in his reforming.
- Jossed. Tom and Maddie happily accepted both him and Knuckles into their family.
- Jossed. Knuckles was taken in alongside Tails.
- He wasn't created by Black Doom and Gerald Robotnik. Instead, he's simply another alien hedgehog who came to Earth as a baby in similar circumstances to Sonic sometime during The '90s. Soon after, he was found and adopted by Gerald and Maria (who doesn't have any sort of sickness here). For this reason, he never claims to be "the Ultimate Lifeform".
- Gerald raised him like a son just like Tom does for Sonic, going as far as to run tests on him and his powers for the sole purpose of helping him control them. His Inhibitor Rings and Rocket Skates came about from these experiments, and they're just as much Tragic Keepsakes as practical equipment. Gerald's lab is much more humble, downgrading from a massive space colony into a simple observatory.
- Maria lives to a much older age this time, old enough to become her grandfather's lab assistant, and becomes Shadow's Big Sister Mentor. This has a profound on Shadow's personality during the flashbacks. While he was every bit as brooding as he is now in the source material, now he's every bit as cheerful and energetic as Sonic, to the point where he could be easily mistaken for a palette swap of Sonic. It's not until her death does he become the dark, brooding Anti-Hero we're all familiar with.
- The raid that ultimately results in Maria's death comes about when the government catches wind of Gerald harboring an extraterrestrial. As the military arrests her grandfather and moves on Shadow, Maria will shove Shadow through a Ring portal, which, in a dark reprise of the first film's opening, stays open just long enough for him to see her get shot to death. With everything he loves destroyed by human maliciousness, Shadow then spends the next thirty years travelling the galaxy, honing his powers and skills until he feels he's ready to take revenge on all of humanity, a goal that puts him on a crash course with Sonic and co.
- And finally, the promise he made to Maria. The actual promise is the same, but the context behind it is very different. Because they know so little about Shadow's biology, Maria fears that Shadow will outlive her and Gerald by a significant amount of time (a nod towards the game version's immortality). For this reason, she has him promise to defend humanity after they're gone. Also, it won't be Amy who causes Shadow to remember this promise, but Sonic himself, in an interesting take on their rivalry.
- This could be a great premise for a spinoff midquel series, if they don't show it in the movies.
- Would adapt with Knuckles working for Robotnik in his first appearance, if he starts as The Dragon to Pachacamac.
- Jossed. It was confirmed in the prequel comic that both Longclaw and the echidna tribe died fighting each other. Therefore, Pachacamac is also dead.
- Or alternatively, the Rings of Order are limiters the Echidnas forced the two to make so they can control beings like Sonic for their conquest.
- Unlikely— as per supplementary information on Sonic X-Treme's development, one of the game's developers (Chris Senn) currently owns the rights to Tiara's design.
- There will be a Deus ex Machina involving a Sonic quill used to power up a payphone.
- I might be thinking too hard about this one, but this might be why he's "specifically" meant to not interact with Sonic. A background C-plot for the movie will involve him tailing Sonic on his adventure across Earth, Mobius and everywhere in between, but whenever he isn't missing his chance to interview Sonic, he's nearly getting himself killed for the umpteenth time in a row. To tie his misadventures back into the main plot, they'll lead to certain things happening to advance the story, which'll appear as contrived coincidences to the main cast.
In reference to Sonic 3.