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Building on the below theory, the sparkling stars didn't give Kirby his powers...
But they helped Kirby regain them. Connecting KRBAY to the video games, the warp star gave Kirby his powers, but was then broke up into the pieces making the sparkling stars. after defeating Dedede, his powers returned, but weaker then normal, explaining why Kirby is more powerful in KRBAY than he is in the games.
The Sparkling Stars from Kirby's Dream Land gave Kirby his powers
Kirby couldn't copy anybody in his first adventure. The stars Kirby collects at the end of every level in that game granted him the ability to mimic his meals.
Seriously, he travels from planet to planet, assuming the traits of any creature he eats
. It was only a matter of time before he got to earth.
Kirby is a Bizarro Eldritch Abomination
Meaning he's a Neutral Good Lovecraftian monster.
Kirby is all-consuming, omnipotent (doesn't Kirby always beat the boss that had defeated entire worlds?), but omni-benevolent. Kirby appeals to our aesthetic sense in an innocent way
. What does that sound like? Let's face it, Kirby is the good twin
- Kirby is chaotic good. Consider Kirby's reaction to forgetting he ate his cake - go beat up King Dedede. This is why Meta Knight opposes Kirby; he's lawful good and despises Kirby's chaotic nature.
- If you look at the sprite sheet,◊ a Waddle Dee took the cake. Waddle Dees are Dedede's minions. Technically, he DID take it.
- The fact that a Waddle Dee took it doesn't prove that it was on Dedede's orders. Not all of them work for him, and even if that one did, it might have taken the cake for itself. Regardless of who ate the cake, Kirby's reaction to its disappearance was a little extreme.
- Dedede would be Mischevious Good; Meta Knight flips out at said mischief, while Kirby incorrectly perceives it as evil. Unfortunately, Meta Knight is a bit overzealous, as seen in his attempted coup of Dream Land.
- Kirby's powers are rare in Dreamland, but not completely exclusive to him. Kirby just seems like an exceptional resident of popstar, the Eleventh Hour Super Powers coming to him in his time of need are usually why he beats the great big thing of evil every game.
That cute pink puffball you think you see? That's your mind doing you a favor.
If you beheld Kirby's true form, you would spend the rest of your life in a state of catatonic euphoria.◊
Kirby is a rejected form of Majin Buu.
Both are pink and copy powers through eating.
- This fanfiction proposes a similar idea.
In Kirby's Dream Land 3, some levels have Kirby look-alikes called Batamon; we'll assume that's the name for Kirby's species. Now note that all Digimon have a name with the suffix "-mon". Kirby's enemy-eating ability, then, is an offshoot of the standard Digimon ability to grow stronger by absorbing the data of defeated opponents combined with the ability to change modes easily.
- Works well with the 2010 series, Batamon could be a type of Digimon who developed independently of Earth and have no level. Kirby is forcing a Xros when he swallows enemies.
Kirby is the light-powered counterpart of Dark Matter/Zero in pocket format
Dark Matter symbolizes everything evil, planned, and unhappy. Kirby was created from happiness, love, peace, and cuteness. You could see him as light incarnate, while Dark Matter is darkness incarnate. Although Kirby is just a child and too cute for words, he is a good fighter and even has super powers; this is meant to show that The Force
of pure Goodness is beautiful and
strong at the same time.
Also, isn't it funny how he's always there when Dark Matter is doing something evil?
Example: When Ripple Star was invaded, Ribbon coincidentally
bumped into Kirby for no obvious reason. She could have landed on Rock star and ended up wandering the desert on her search for the shards forever; then Kirby would never have met her and would have kept the crystal shard, thinking it would have made a nice souvenir. But for some reason, Ribbon did
meet him, the only one who can stop Dark Matter, and that happened though she came from another planet!
Destiny intends for Kirby to balance out every single imbalance
Dark Matter causes. He will always be there whenever evil is involved, whether he wants to or not.
Kirby is Lavos.
After years of eating, the horrific black hole in his stomach becomes an all-consuming force, corrupting Kirby's body and soul beyond recognition. After destroying and consuming Pop Star, he drifts through space consuming whatever he can find before landing on earth; this leaves Crono and friends to deal with him before he wakes up and eats everything.
- It should be mentioned that in Chrono Trigger mythology, Lavos, in addition to ending the world... empowers dreams.
- Look at Shiver Star's icon on the map. Remember what happened after Lavos destroyed the world?
Kirby is an evil SOB.
Think about it. He kills and eats the souls of innocent civilians if they happen to get in his way and commits genocidal rampages all the time just for some cake or something.
- If you go far enough ahead, and then double back, the enemies are back where they were before, none the worse for wear. Sure, Kirby could use a bit of self-control, but he apparently doesn't kill his enemies; he just leaves them dazed and off-screen for a while.
- Above point jossed. I just fired up Kirby 64 - the only game I can think of where the enemy isn't immediately turned into a star when inhaled - to check. Inhaled a random Poppy Bro, walked off with him in Kirby's mouth, came back to see him re-spawned. The first one was still in Kirby's mouth, I even took it out and held it above his head. Definitely two different Poppy bros. They apparently do die, others just replace them really fast. Now, how exactly that happens would take a whole different WMG.
- Double jossed. In Revenge of The King, during the battle with Bandanna Dee, you can eat him, just like any enemy. He still shows up to cheer on Dedede during the final boss fight. And he still shows up to help in Return to Dreamland. Nobody knows what happens when Kirby eats a person, but I doubt the Carry ability that Kirby had in 64 is indicative of the entire franchise.
- Its shown in Kirby Super Star that most dreamland creatures, even those identical to the usual enemy creatures he eats, do not attack Kirby, the ones that do are his enemies or working for them.
Kirby is immune to Metroids.
Proven in Kirby's Dream Land 3, where Samus Aran herself cameos near the end of the particular stage.
Kirby was created by the Chozo
Though improbable by out-of-universe means, it makes quite a lot sense in-universe.
- There is no Word of God for the origin of Kirby’s species. The closest is a SSBB trophy that says that he’s a citizen of Dreamland. That says nothing of where he came from.
- Samus appears in KDL3, along with Metroids. This connects their universes. (In fact, Nintendo seems to love connecting its universes.)
- The Chozo are not unknown for genetic experiments attempting to create an ultimate being (“Metroid“ means “Ultimate Warrior” in the Chozo language). He is still a bit overly destructive, and naďve enough to crack Pop Star in half for the sake of a game.
- To be fair, the other competitors are just as guilty of destruction in said game.
- Furthermore, Kirby seems to be the ultimate being in his world. When Meta Knight summoned "the ultimate warrior" he got Galacta Knight. As far as battles have proved: Galacta Knight < Meta Knight < Kirby. Alternatively; Kirby himself is Galacta Knight. Other WMGs detail that. That nicely connects to the "Ultimate Warrior" motif.
- This could also explain abilities like Sword, Yo-yo, Cupid, and Stone (when he becomes statues) - because the Chozo are supposedly this all-knowing race, it wouldn’t be too much of a stretch to say that they could know of Link (Sword, maybe Bomb), Ness (Yo-yo), and Pit (possibly Cupid). Stone is particularly odd — he even breaks the fourth wall with that one as of Return to Dreamland. How could Kirby know of all those things? Does he get to choose what statue he becomes, or is it truly random? Either way, Darwin doesn't account for Kirby's spontaneously appearing Link hat.
- Kirby is immune to Metroids. Which suck out life force. Does Kirby not have a life force?
- Otherwise, perhaps he was created after the Metroids, and the Chozo had since discovered how to infuse that immunity within him.
- The following quote found on a wiki, no idea what game it comes from: "The creature took on the host's… appearance, abilities, everything. It sucks everything dry.” (Shortened for relevance) …Sound kind of familiar? Perhaps the Chozo wanted to modify the general traits of the X Parasite to use for good, which they ultimately decided to dump at Pop Star for who knows why.
- If this really is so, then Kirby helped with the extinction of a species much like his own (even if he did only kill 6). Remember - the Metroids were created with good intentions. But they got a bad rep (Not like their diet helped much. And Kirby's isn't much better.) and were annihilated by Samus. If Kirby were to get a similar reputation, then he better start avoiding Samus like the plague. Because he could be next.
- Also note that places/planets that Samus visits are prone to being destroyed. So if Kirby gets out of control, then it could also be bye-bye Pop Star.
- Also note that it's entirely possible that Kirby is far more powerful than Samus. He'd still probably rather not be forced to kill her in self-defense, though...
All of Kirby's species are about as strong as him, and can copy abilities too.
The catch being that they are so unbelievably lazy that Kirby is a downright athlete in comparison. Sure, they're all capable of taking down that Eldritch Abomination
, but It's Up to You
- This suggests the Batamon from Kirby's Dreamland 3 are not his species because they die in one hit.
The origin of Kirby and Meta Knight.
Kirby and Meta Knight come from a race sworn to protect the universe from that which should not be. Dark Matter was a recurring adversary of their race, but time and time again, it would be vanquished by the species' greatest warrior: Galacta Knight. Meta Knight, who was still a training soldier at the time, looked up to Galacta Knight and wanted to become a great swordsman just like him. As children, members of this species have the ability to absorb powers from foes. However, while training to become a soldier of the universe, they must settle on one power, or alternatively a combination of two. They start out with the skill's simple abilities, but they can advance their techniques above what the copy ability can provide for that power. So Meta Knight chose the sword ability mixed with the flight ability to be more like Galacta Knight. He advanced his moves to include some of his unique skills seen in the series.
But then the unthinkable happened: Galacta Knight turned against his species and began to slaughter his own people. Meta Knight's training academy was attacked by the warrior, and everyone there was killed except Meta Knight, who hid. Feeling shame that he showed cowardice when he should have fought alongside his friends, he decided to wear a mask that would hide the face of a coward. He became increasingly cold and serious afterward, and even more dedicated to fighting. The elders of the world knew Galacta Knight was too powerful to be defeated, and had to seal him in another dimension. But their world was ravaged and uninhabitable, so they went their separate ways throughout the universe.
However, an orphaned baby named Kirby was left there, until a falling star literally fell right next to him. He climbed onto it, not knowing what it was since he was still a baby, and it carried him though space until they landed on a planet called Popstar - specifically, in the nation of Dreamland. He spent a year or two there living in the forest, befriending some of the animals. This is around the beginning of the series, and Kirby is still a small child, not able to speak. Kirby had witnessed the king of Dreamland, King Dedede, being cruel to the people of the land, and Kirby became a hero by stopping him from stealing all of the food in the kingdom. Kirby was praised by the land's people, and stories of him even reached out of Dreamland, and were heard by Meta Knight, now traveling through space in his ship, the Halberd, and continuing the spread of his species' training by finding lost souls and teaching them. These students of his were the Meta Knights. Meta Knight traveled to Dreamland, hoping to teach Kirby the ways of their people, which is why he's often seen testing Kirby's strength.
- This would mean that when wishing to fight the strongest warrior in the galaxy, he knew it would be his former hero. Either he hoped to redeem him (Defeat Equals Friendship), or to avenge his friends, family, and species in general. Take your pick.
- This has become my personal headcanon!
Kirby is/was a star
The first title game is Kirby of The Stars (Hoshi no Kaabi in Japanese). His stomach is literally black hole (a galaxy with some stars inside, from Squeak Squad). Black holes adding the sucked masses into themselves just like kirby adding the power of the enemies into himself. In Mass Attack, Kirby's heart is a star. His ride is called warpstar, and he live in Popstar, a star-shaped planet. He's either an incarnation of a star, or a dead star (black hole), or maybe a personification
of a star itself.
- In Kirby mass attack, kirby is split into 10 kirbies. If we consider them as merely 'a part' of the original Kirby, it makes senses that as they eat more fruits, they are gaining more masses thus enough for them to re-create another part/body of smaller kirby. That star-shaped 'heart' is the true form of kirby.
Kirby is Gluttony
, having been reborn into the Popstar Universe.
Both Kirby and Gluttony can eat far
more than should be possible, are minor-level Lovecraftian monstrosities
and naive, happy and relatively innocent individuals. After Pride ate him
, Gluttony realized the error of his ways
, and decided to be friends with other people. The reason why Gluttony is in another universe comes from being a failed Gate-a fluke led to it working for once, and Gluttony immediately chose the universe with the most food.
Kirby still retains his eternal hunger that Father gave him, hence why he keeps eating people. Gaining powers from eating people
was a result of inheriting some of Pride's power.
Meta Knight, Kirby, and Galactic Knight are the same species, and they represent the stages of life for this species.
This species, which I will call The Void for shorthand purposes. (Kirby is his / her /its name, not species). Each one of these are different stages in its life time. Kirby is a young child, his powers are unpredictable. While The Void grow up, they start to get comfortable with a form and master it, or become a jack-of-all-trades and keep their improvised ability. Meta Knight represents Teenage / Young Adult who decides to take up the sword form. He is stronger than Kirby's Sword form. As The Void get older, their skills naturally improve. Galactic Knight represents being an older adult. Considerably stronger than Meta-Knight.
When The Void choose a form, they can lend their skills to an improvising Void. As seen in Kirby and the Amazing Mirror, Kirby may be just be hitting puberty because he can borrow Meta Knight's skills.
Kirby's species can only copy powers at a young age
As they age, they eventually settle down onto a single powerset based on common usage and personality, like daemons in His Dark Materials
. Meta-Knight, for example, settled on the Sword power. Presumably, the advantage to settling like that is that you can keep the powers even after being hit very hard and such. Kirby can still copy because he's still a baby.
- I've had this theory for forever. Glad to know someone else sees it.
Kirby's species name is "poyo".
In the anime, he's using Pokémon Speak
. This explains why Meta Knight is able to understand his babbling.
Kirby's species is somehow related to Potemayo
- They all belong to the "cute spherical critters" phylum, but they have diverged because of the different evolutionary pressures of their respective universes.
Found out Kirby's species at last!
All the Kirby and Meta Knight species can do naturally is inhale.
And instead have to train themselves in mastering a certain ability. Metaknight obviously chose Sword, while Kirby learned Copy somewhere between Dreamland and Adventure, and improved on it in Superstar. This explains why Kirby can't use the Sword ability as effectively as Meta Knight, even when he copies it. This may apply to other species, having the pathetic Waddle Dees and Waddle Doos carrying parasols, even if the latter can use Beam naturally. Also, when copying Copy itself, you gain an improved Copy.
- This + Milky Way Wishes = at least two more theories. In said game, you can't copy anything and have to use Essences Deluxe. If you find one of those, you can use it whenever you want. My theories based on this are as follows: Any Kirby/Batamon/Enderman/Whatever can get an ability by pedestals or Essences Deluxe. Meta Knight uses a Sword Essence Deluxe and got it to Master. Master ability is what a mastered ability is called. MWW takes place when Kirby chose an ability. If I could remember them, there would be many more where that came from.
Kirby's digestive system ends at his stomach.
Everything he eats is converted into pure energy. This is why he always dances after every level. This is also the reason that a lollipop makes him so hyperactive.
Related to above topics. If Nightmare, Dark Matter, and Dark Nebula are Eldritch Abominations
(and thus godly), and they all were defeated by Kirby, then Kirby was slaying beings worse then the Greek Pantheon
before Kratos got doublecrossed. If Kirby killed forces of pure cosmic evil, gains abilities by absorbing matter, and uses stars as weapons, then that means he is the manifestation of the power of the Universe in pure, sentient form. Talk about Alternate Series Interpretation
- So Kirby WOULD kick Kratos's ass. And Kirby's a nicer guy, too.
Kirby is the lost child of an evil race of aliens.
To correspond to some of the "Kirby is evil" theories above. The evil aliens somehow lost Kirby on their travels through the depth of spaces, and he was raised by some Dreamlanders to be nice and cuddly. It will get interesting if his real parents ever show up and try to get him back on their side...
Kirby is the child of Dedede.
They share more or less the same abilities, and Dedede is unusually affectionate and defensive towards Kirby at times. Perhaps Kirbies are some larval form of whatever Dedede is?
- I heard Dedede learned how to inhale because he was jealous of Kirby.
- He might be half of Kirby's species.
Kirby is set in a universe where penguins have larval forms
If the above WMG is true, and given that Dedede is a penguin, then Kirby and other Batamon must be the larval form of the Kirby-verse's penguins.
Kirby is the same species as Pacman
- But that would mean that if Pacman ate a ghost, he would lose his eyes. Case in point.
All pink kirbies are special.
And with 'kirbies', I'm referring to the species in general. There is something going on with Kirby and Meta Knight's species similar to the purple dragons in Spyro the Dragon
; however, instead of purple, the favored color is pink in this case. Pink puffballs are extremely uncommon and unlikely to come about, but when they DO pop up, they're the stuff of legends. This explains why of all the available colors for Kirby in multiplayer games, the pink one is always the hero, and how there's no other pink recurring characters except for Galacta Knight, who is also an example; his powers were so great he eventually had to be locked away by NOVA.
All adult members of kirby species are required to use the mask.
Tying up all other WMG on this page.
Kirby species can only use copy power when they are young. Anything they eat are converted into pure energy and several certain foods (i.e. enemies) are converted into fighting abilities. That's it, until Kirby gets hit and loses the power or Kirby throw away that power as a star. So, Kirby's digestion system ends in his stomach. It stands that the reason he eats a lot is to ensure his body is safe if he gets hit (he is just going to lose an ability instead of dying, plus the ability helps him fighting). It's the same as Sonic is keeping the rings...
As Kirby gets older, though, he can only keep a certain fighting ability. By this stage, even when he's hit, he's not going to lose any power, as it is permanent. Thus, there's no reason for him to suck enemies at all as he can't absorb their powers. Fridge Horror
settled that because he can't lose any power over being hit, it probably also means that anything Kirby eats is now fully absorbed without a way to return. Older members of Kirby's species (speculated to be Meta Knight and Galactic Knight) are using masks, not only to protect their bodies, but also to stop themselves from eating anything they may came across and destroying everything. They are probably not required to eat, anyway.
The Deviljho needs to eat constantly due to its extremely high body heat and metabolism (explaining his huge appetite) and is powerful enough to hunt nearby species to extinction. It enters a rage state if it goes too long without food, hence why Kirby went on a rampage just to get his cake in Squeak Squad. Need I say more?
- Never heard of any pink and fluffy Deviljhos, though.
- It's not the craziest idea we've seen.
Meta Knight theories
Meta Knight is a mutant Kirby
Meta Knight was originally pink and fluffy with a copy ability just like Kirby. During a showdown with Dark Matter, he was trapped in a blob of the stuff for an extended period of time, tinting his skin blue and stripping him of his copy ability. He wears a mask because he's ashamed of being dark blue. This theory was first put forward by Brawl in the Family
in the Cocoon Academy arc
Meta Knight is Kirby's father
- Think about it! He shares a lot of similarities with Kirby, and he's always acting as a Stealth Mentor to him. Couldn't you just see Hal Labs playing the Luke, I Am Your Father trope straight?
In an alternate timeline, the Star Rod was broken during the fight with Nightmare, in such a way as to not produce easily reassembled pieces as before. In a last ditch effort to save Dreamland, Kirby used all of his strength to inhale Nightmare, and collapsed from the effort. He awoke, the world apparently saved, as if Nightmare had never been released from the Fountain of Dreams. Kirby was slightly groggy, but snapped awake when he heard his own voice. The effort of sucking in Nightmare had made his voice much deeper. He tried inhaling enough air to fly, but found that it caused him too much pain to suck in enough to even kill a Waddle Dee. Flight wasn't much of a problem. Nightmare Kirby's cloak could form wings. But exhalation was his primary method of attack. He couldn't use his Copy Abilities again without freeing Nightmare. Feeling that the Star Rod was permanently lost, he used what was left of it to forge himself a sword, and a mask for which he could cover his shame. He knew that if he ever showed his face again, he would be blamed for having destroyed the Star Rod. But then he noticed what seemed to be himself from just a few hours ago. Possibly having been driven insane from what had happened to him, Kirby decided that this impostor had to be dealt with. He conjured minions using his new powers, and sent them to fight with his doppleganger. He would encounter his doppleganger many times while he learned how to use his sword. By the time he encountered his doppleganger for the last time, he was a Master Swordsman, and such a master in fact, that he felt it would be dishonorable to fight even this despicable clone unless the clone were given a sword to fight with. It was after he was defeated and had his identity (sort of) revealed, that he realized the truth. The battle with Nightmare had caused him to travel back in time, and he had inadvertently become the monster that pestered him throughout his Adventure.
- But if Meta Knight was there in the timeline where Nightmare is inhaled, how is he created? He can't be in both timelines.
Meta Knight has the same powers as Kirby
The mask? That's just one of those hats you get with a copy ability. Many copy abilities give you physical weapons, so it's not impossible that Meta Knight could have got his sword (or maybe even his cloakwings) through consuming something with them. Meta Knight is never seen without that power because he can't find any better ones. His sword was the most powerful copy ability in Kirby and the Amazing Mirror, after all.
Meta Knight sealed Dark Nebula in that chest long before Squeak Squad
Early in Meta Knight's career, he encountered a rouge piece of Dark Matter. This was before he had Galaxia
, so he was only able to seal it inside a particularly large treasure chest aboard the Halberd. A bit before Kirby's Adventure
, King Dedede managed to swipe away some loot from the ship, including the one with Dark Nebula.
Meta Knight is Kirby from a dystopian future.
Not too far into the future, Nightmare and Dark Matter join forces and take over Dreamland, capturing all its citizens and turning them into dark-matter slaves for eternity. Kirby's transformation, however, is incomplete, and he turns into what we know as Meta Knight, growing wings but losing the power of inhaling. He tries to battle Dark Matter over and over, but without success and barely managing to survive every single time (and that's when he honed his sword skill, since there was nothing else to copy). In a last attempt, he finds a Nova (the Kirby Wiki
explains how Milkyway Wishes Nova might be one of many) that can transport him to the past to change his present. He grabs a mask and some equipment to avoid having his identity discovered by his past self (explaining why he's such in a rush every time his mask breaks), and rushes on.
Back in the past, in Kirby's Adventure, he works with Dedede to stop Kirby from reaching the Star Rod and freeing Kirby, yet they fail. In Revenge of Meta Knight, he tries to colonize Dreamland in order to be able to prepare its citizens for the storm yet to come, but fails again. Eventually, Meta Knight gives up on confronting Kirby, and starts working at his side so they can stop the upcoming menace together.
Kirby's universe is an alternate reality version of the DC Comics Universe.
Kirby is Superman. Meta Knight is Batman. King Dedede is Lex Luthor.
In "Revenge of Meta Knight," Meta Knight was trying to enslave the inhabitants of Dreamland.
Outside of destroying Kirby, Meta Knight's only stated goal during the game was to "put an end to (Pop Star's) lazy lifestyle." He was planning to do so by keeping everybody as his personal slaves. This is further evidenced by the fact that he had already trapped dozens of Wheelies and was forcing them to power his ship.
Dream Land is Pop Star's equivalent of a war-torn third-world country
Just think about it. You've got an illegitimate monarchy ruled by King Dedede. Kirby is a biological weapon running rampant, killing people for their food or eating them whole
. Meta-Knight's formed his own cadre of questionably-noble military separatists and has a flying warship capable of subjugating entire provinces by itself. The very trees and animals are sapient and hostile to all other forms of life. There's at least a half-dozen instances where nightmarish monsters and space aliens have invaded. Civilians are forced to defend their homes with whatever they have available: swords, mallets, magic wands, improvised explosives, yo-yos, umbrellas... It's a sugar-frosted warzone
. The rest of the planet must think Dream Land is like Mordor.
The Squeaks were suicidal.
- Suicide by Kirby. They should have known what would happen if they screwed with Kirby when it comes to food. Everyone in Dream Land knows, after Kirby's Dreamland. Fortunately, Kirby wasn't quite blind enough with rage to commit murder.
In Squeak Squad, it's not because of the cake.
But because it is stolen. Kirby had experienced food being stolen before, thus he jumped to the conclusion that Dedede did it, and probably there is more food being stolen, too.
Kirby is not much of a hero; he is only doing things that involved him, like a selfish kid. In the first game, it's also food involved, but who knows if he originally just wanted to retrieve his own and ended up returning all the food? Then in the second game, he's probably only bothering to retrieve all the Star Rod pieces because he can't have a nice sleep. That's why he refused to listen to Dedede, he's cranky and sleepy. In the Dreamland series, it's simply because Dark Matter is evil and threatening Popstar, thus bothering him. In Mass Attack, Canvas Curse, and Epic Yarn, the villains themselves decide to screw with Kirby, thus causing him to go after them.
So in short Kirby is not much of a hero, as he is simply after those villains because they annoy him.
It's not necessary to be a cake; had it been anything else stolen from him, he'd react the same.
- That doesn't mean he doesn't like to help, like in 64 or K Rt DL. Both in 64 and K Rt DL, it's because the shard falls upon him/he witnesses the ship fall. He simply helps because he saw it in front of him.
Dedede wants to get everyone in shape.
In Kirby's Dream Land, he's putting the residents of Dream Land on a diet. He almost always fights Kirby in a boxing ring. In games with the Hammer ability, he tries to get Kirby to use it. In the upcoming/canceled Kirby Wii, he takes away Kirby's Warp Star to get him to walk around more.
- This is likely related to his past attempts at fending off Eldritch Abominations — he wants the inhabitants of Dreamland to be in good enough shape that he, Kirby, and Meta-Knight aren't the only defenders. His trying to get Kirby into shape is much like Meta Knight's MO — help him be a better Star Warrior.
Meta Knight attempted to conquer Dream Land because there was a massive famine at the time.
In the beginning of Meta Knight's Revenge
, MK briefly states his intention to change Dream Land's wasteful, lazy lifestyle. Poor administration and lack of work ethic finally took their toll on the fields, which were too degraded to bear crops anymore. The innocent citizens were starving, while the aristocrats were living comfortably on what they scraped away from everyone else. All the enemies fighting Kirby were part of the coups, on their way to the palace to join the main siege. Meta Knight was attempting to take over so he could prevent the death of thousands. His initial plan failed, so he went to a backup plan of working for the administration, funneling the ill-taxed food to the needing public behind the scenes, which is why he followed the orders of Dedede for a brief period of time.
- We can assume that Kirby has stopped the famine since then, in the several endings where he gives the Dream Land residents food, but then again, you'd think that Kirby would be able to find another cake in Squeak Squad... Unless, of course, there's none left.
- And even if there is; if he gets his back, then he can find another cake after, and then have two cakes.
- Doesn't hold up as well in the Japanese version, where his motivation is to cleanse Dreamland's corruption, whatever that means.
- Actually, it holds up perfectly well. The theory as presented seems to merge both versions of Meta Knight's motivation.
Dream Land is Hell, and the characters in it are the 7 deadly sins.
- Kirby - Gluttony, obviously
- Meta Knight - Pride/Vanity
- King Dedede - Greed
- Lololo and Lalala - Lust (It's hard to find a Lust in a kids' game, okay?)
- What about those enemies that fly around and kiss you? They're either in KSSU or Squeak Squad, maybe both.
- They're in Kirby and the Amazing Mirror, actually, and they're called Leaps. Though I think they're also in Squeak Squad.
- It can actually be perfectly easy to find lust in a kids' game; lust simply refers to any type of excessive desire or ambition. ("Bloodlust", for example.)
- Lust can refer to a lust for power, too. Magolor would fill that gap in, then.
- Marx - Envy
- Nightmare - Wrath
- Whispy Woods - Sloth
- And Dark Matter? Dark Matter is the devil itself. Hence why it takes the form of a fallen angel as O2. Doesn't this all make sense now?
Kirby is a greater daemon and champion of Slaanesh, decadent and self-indulgent yet protecting Popstar against all outside threats. Meta-Knight is a greater daemon of Khorne, a war-hungry conqueror. Marx is Tzeentch's servant, a power-hungry schemer. Dark Matter, an infectious being who fights by amongst other things bleeding on the enemy, is of course Nurgle's attempt at taking over the system of Popstar.
Kirby's Adventure is a training mission set up by Meta Knight.
Many times, in the game and the show, Kirby is implied to be Meta Knight's apprentice. So, that leaves the possibility that Meta Knight set up the entire game without Kirby knowing. However, he didn't expect Nightmare to show up; when that happened, the "training mission" turned into a life-or-death situation.
Meta Knight only attacked Dreamland to save its inhabitants.
During the Revenge of Meta Knight, he invades Dreamland just so everyone can stop being lazy. That doesn't seem like a good reason to use an army and a giant warship to take over by force. In reality, Meta Knight knew of the upcoming threat of Marx, the ultimate villain in Kirby Super Star. He wanted to take over Dreamland, so he could teach everyone to stop being lazy and learn to defend themselves in case Kirby cannot defeat Marx.
- If this were true, then what would happen if Marx did win?
Drawcia and Yin Yarn are just the beginning.
Both enemies are very much connected to each other. Megalomaniacs from strange art dimensions? Check. Block Kirby's usual abilities, but at the risk of giving him new ones? Check. Dwell in strange alternate worlds resembling certain art aesthetics? Check. Decked out in wizard hats and billowing capes? Check. Feature in games endemic to certain revolutionary consoles, utilizing their unique properties to their fullest? Check.
What's more, they're not the last. Sometime in the future, Kirby may have to fight a wizard wielding a massive fountain pen; or a sinister sorceror armed with a pair of scissors and a lot of paper
. Villains from every corner of the art-media multiverse will come try their best against Kirby, until finally, their master arrives... Craft, Lord of Art.
Dream Land is just that-The Land of Dreams.
Specifically, it's Nintendo's answer to Vertigo's The Dreaming
-a realm personifying the dreams, fantasizes and imagination of Nintendo's series. Its lighthearted nature comes from children being the most imaginative, along with its antagonists.
Why are so many villains simple? They're children's dreams/nightmares.
Why is the titular hero Badass Adorable
? What do you expect a young child to dream up? The same goes for the cute enemies and animal friends. As for the characters:
- Kirby is Nintendo's answer to Dream, who's significantly more childish and Lighter and Softer because Nintendo is generally E-rated.
- King De De De is the official guardian of the Dreamland, as Kirby isn't interested in the job. He's an Anti-Villain because Rosseau Was Right is a major theme of Nintendo/again, children. Meta Knight represents the more cynical aspects of imagination, dreamt up by older individuals. Whispy Woods is a dream involving trees, Krako comes from trying to find images in clouds, Paint Roller is just a cool dude and Mr Shine/Mr Bright are the Man on the Moon/Face of the Sun respectively. I'm assuming Mario dreamt up Mr Bright.
- 0 is The Heartless-an embodiment of all negative emotions felt by the denizens of Nintendo's universe, given form in dreams. It manifests its power with Dark Matter, which is the Anthropomorphic Personification of the fear of the dark.
- Nightmare is the god of nightmares. You may better know him as Phobetor. As for other nightmares, Necrodeus is either a nightmare about darkness and/or death, Dark Mind is a nightmare of reflections trying to kill you, Drawcia is a nightmare about a Mad Artist and so on.
- This is partly jossed by Kirby's Adventure. Dreamland is a country on the planet popstar which houses the fountain of dreams, a fountain where dreams come from. The main antagonist, Nightmare, did come from that fountain and Kirby Super Star shows similar structures exist on other planets, so many of the other bosses may indeed be nightmares that came through a fountain where no Dedede and Kirby where around to oppose them.
Kirby's abilities are based on matter-energy manipulation and rigorous training
Kirby's basic abilities correlate to a Slyph, an alchemical spirit of air. Air is the fuel of the athlete, so it makes sense this is what he would start with and is all he has in the first game. Possibly the biggest enemy this series has ever had is zero/zero2, a reference to oxygen being the vital part of air to the athlete, thus really powerful. Also symbolism, one of the devil
's epithets is prince of air because he claims dominion over all that breathes, hence Zero's control over Dark matter, the substance most of the universe is made of and Dark matter's demonic possessions
, particularly of wannabe authority figure King Dedede.
Kirby does suck air from the environment around him, but produces air and directs currents of it into his mouth. This is how he can inhale in outer space where their is no atmosphere. Kirby can hold his breath indefinitely because he has surpassed organic respiration and his puffed up flying is him internalizing the air production ability. The damaging visible sigh
is a combination of the two. Kirby's Dreamland 3
shows that the average batamon(which look just like Kirby) are as weak as Waddle Dees. King Dedede learned Kirby's flight abilities just by observing him and in Kirby Super Star
you are able to encounter a seemingly ordinary Waddle Dee granted "boss" status that proves to be much tougher than the ones you usually brush by.
This suggests that the creatures on Popstar acquire their abilities mostly through hard work with proper direction but have an alchemy like ability to replicate and alter matter or energy. Kirby must have become particularly good at it by Kirby's Adventure
, hence the copy abilities. Dedede could probably come just as far but lacks the drive and insight, softened and distracted by his luxurious lifestyle. Meta Knight trains harder than Kirby but does not have Kirby's natural talent or willingness to experiment, making him less versatile. He is also afraid of getting hurt, his armored mask has become a crutch.
Also, if you pay attention to Kirby to when Kirby lands, he always produces a star on impact. The stars the bosses produce when stomping around and various other actions? Solid force
, either they do not realize they are doing it or simply cannot help it. Kirby weaponizes it regardless. The warp stars might be akin to the natural flow of energy through the universe which can be manipulated for a traveler's benefit at points. How he calls warp stars with a cellphone
might also suggest the universe itself is alive on some level and Kirby has learned to speak to and influence certain channels of it.
The bosses of Kirby Super Star each have specific origins(using Anime as basis).
Whispy Woods: The ruler of the Whispy Woods. The first tree in the forest is Acore who is Whispy Woods's best friend. King Dedede seeks to cut down Whispy Woods and turn his Whispy Woods into a golf course.
Lololo and Lalala: Two monsters created from one(Lola).
Kracko: The original was a monster from NME
. After his death Dedede had Escargoon brew up some monster formula and the steam became a new Kracko.
Dedede: A 300 year old penguin king of Dreamland.
Kawasaki: Bad chef...
Bonkers: Escaped ape from a zoo. Fan of Kirby.
Bugzzy: Monster created by Nightmare. He made multiple.
Mr. Frosty: Monster created by Nightmare. Sent to Dreamland while Meta Knight was blowing up Nightmare's fortress(same class as Mekkai).
Poppy Bros. Sr.: Originally a Poppy Bros. Jr. sent to Dreamland by Nightmare. It was injected with Escargoon's monster serum making it bigger.
Iron Mam: ???
Dyna Blade: Ancient bird who's protective of her chicks.
Fatty Whale: A fat blue whale that lives in a lake underneath Dreamland.
Computer Virus: A set of computer windows featuring an RPG.
Chameleo Arm: A light colored creature that can change colors. It can mimic the surrounding area through it's color change.
Wham Bam Rock: A brown stone idol.
Whispy Woods: Same as before.
Twin Woods: The angry trees of Whispy Woods seeking vengance on Kirby for defeating their master twice.
Main Cannon 2: One of the two main cannons of the Halberd.
Heavy Lobster: Replica of the robotic monster sent by Nightmare against the first Halberd.
Reactor: Reactor to the Halberd. Runs on Wheelies.
Meta Knights: Sir Meta Knight's elite gaurd.
Sir Meta Knight: Member of Kirby's species... May have been split off from the monster that rebelled against Nightmare by Slice and Splice.
Twin Woods: Brown leafed rulers of Floria.
Fatty Whale: A fat red whale that rules Aquarius.
Kracko: One of Nightmare's monsters. Of the exact same blue colored breed of Kracko that once attacked Dreamland on Nightmare's orders(as opposed to the whiter variant accidentally created by Escargoon).
Chameleo Arm: A darker variant of the previous Chameleo Arm. Gaurds the star on Hotbeat.
Wham Bam Rock: A reddish stone idol. Gaurds the star on Cavius.
Heavy Lobster Mk II: Advanced titanium variant on Nightmare's normal golden Heavy Lobsters. Found gaurding the Heavy Lobster manufactoring plant on Nightmare's second golden fortress Mekkai.
Computer Virus: Another set of computer windows featuring an RPG.
Galactic Nova Nucleus: Core of the wish granting comet Nova.
Marx: Powerful sorcerer. Tricked the sun and moon to fight each other then used Kirby to summon Nova to get it to conquer Dreamland.
Phan Phan: Rogue monster that escaped from Nightmare it initially moved to Whispy Woods only to be drawn to Poison Plants and tamed by Dedede.
Whispy Woods Revenge: Was most likely an apple from the Whispy Woods injected with Escargoon's monster serum.
Fire Lion: An illusion created by the Illusion Isles.
Lololo and Lalala's Revenge: Dark Meta Knight most likely split Lololo and Lalala individually into two during one of his visits resulting in two Lololos(a blue one and a purple one) and two Lalalas(a pink one and an orange one). Dedede most likely shipped the two extra ones to the Illusion Isles for later use.
Kracko's Revenge: Remnants of Nightmare's own Kracko most likely were injected with Escargoon's monster serum creating an even stronger Kracko then the one that the monster serum created from steam.
Kabula: A powerful blimp created by Escargoon.
Tick Tock: Robot created by Escargoon.
Grand Wheelie: Once a Wheelie created by Nightmare it was found by Dedede and injected with Escargoon's monster serum.
Twin Fire Lions: Created from either dumping monster serum into a fire or by injecting a cat with monster serum or both in an attempt to recreate NME
's own Fire Lion.
Masked Dedede: King Dedede wants revenge against Kirby. He gets kicked out of the castle and moves to the Dark Castle where he'll inevitablly be possessed by Dark Matter.
Galacta Knight: Is likely the monster that rebelled against Nightmare. He most likely was sealed away and weakened by having Slice and Splice split off Meta Knight and later Kirby from him.
Wham Bam Jewel: King of the civilization that created the Wham Bam Rocks.
Marx Soul: Marx absorbed pieces of Nova before Meta Knight repaired it and became Marx Soul.
Grand Unifying Guesses
Dark Matter is the/a Major Villain in all Nintendo Games.
Hopefully this is in the right place, perhaps it goes in Grand Unifying Guesses? At any rate.
In Kirby's Super Star, the Great Cave Offensive, Kirby comes across items from various Nintendo worlds. For example, he finds Captain Falcon's Helmet, the Screw Attack, A Mister Saturn, and a piece of the Triforce. This could mean that the Kirby World is connected to all of these worlds, and most likely ALL Nintendo worlds.
And why shouldn't it be? It's Dream Land after all, it's literally the land of dreams. And Nightmares. It's not impossible that Dreamland is the world that connects all other Nintendo worlds together. What one character could dream about could easily be what is actually happening in another world. Say a kid, Ness perhaps, dreams that he's some kind of legendary hero who has to claim a legendary sword to destroy a monstrous evil, while in the Zelda world, Link dreams he has a loving family and friends and none of the typical nightmare fuel that he has to deal with on a daily basis.
Now, granted, the above example is a little wonky; after all, Ness is a legendary hero who has to destroy a monstrous evil, but who's to say he didn't have that dream before his adventure began? And in many cases Link does have a family, but there are a few instances where they seem a tad absent.
Moving back to the point, Dark Matter is the Source of ALL evils in the world of Nintendo, taking on different forms depending on the universe that it ends up inhabiting, in order to make the best use of its powers and sow whatever havoc and evil that it can before it is destroyed, sealed, or temporarily removed, whatever the case may be. Some Probable Dark Matter Suspects from across the universes:
Mario: Darkstar, Shadow Queen, Dimentio
- Ultimate evil of Mario? Really? Bowser would like a word with you.
- Except that Bowser opposed both the Dark Star and Dimentio on the grounds that they wanted to wreck the entire world, and likely would have opposed the Shadow Queen for the same reason had he known about her. He wants to rule the world, not see it destroyed! (Except in Yoshi's Island DS, where he wanted to destroy the universe and then rebuild it as his galactic empire but that was probably undone because it involved time travel)
Pokemon: Missingno, Dark Rust
Custom Robo: Rahu
Mother Series: Giygas
Kirby: Marx, Zero, Nightmare
- Zero's not being manipulated by Dark Matter. Zero's essentially Dark Matter's brain.
Zelda: Majora. Vaati also applies after he gets his powers (presumably after a deal with Dark Matter). It also helps that he ends up looking a lot like Dark Matter in both of his One-Winged Angel
forms and remains looking like that in his further appearances.
- You forgot Dark Link. If he could make Dark Metaknight, couldn't he make Dark LINK??
So... On the Whole, he leans towards Eldritch Abominations. Fun Times.
- Eh, not Dimentio. Dimentio is probably affiliated with him, though.
- Dark Matter would be closer to the Chaos Heart, not Dimentio.
Kirby is the Strongest Character in Nintendo Canon
Basically related to all those "Kirby is an Eldritch Abomination" turned good guesses up there, but it's less Turned Good as it is Born Good. Kirby is Dark Matter's equal and opposite number (
Bright Matter?), and as such works against him whenever he pops up.
Now, as to Kirby being an idiot if he's the equal and opposite? He's not so much idiotic as he is extremely childish, with all the good and bad that can entail.
- If he is the strongest character, then let's see him take on Giygas.
In addition to traveling through space, it can travel through dimensions, taking on various forms and turning into all of these guys
Well, Zee Tee is, phonetically, ZT, which can stand for Zero Two, which seems to be a more canonical spelling than Zero Squared, even though the NUMBER is written as Zero Squared. Zero Two is likely what happens when you Evert to X-9.
- Wouldn't that mean that the final levels in the Kirby games are in X-9? Come to think of it, what if Kirby everts using warp stars, and every world in each game is an eversion level that we don't see in Eversion? And then wouldn't that imply that Dark Matter is actually the result of the alternate-universe shadows from X-9 of normal people and things from X-1 traveling through the multiverse to make every world the same as X-9?
Mr. Shine and Mr. Bright are the origins of Lunatone and Solrock.
Is there any better explanation?
- Specifically, Solrock and Lunatone are fragments of Mr. Shine and Mr. Bright rained down onto Dream Land when they fought in Milky Way Wishes. This makes Pop Star the Pokémon world in the distant past.
- And Dittos are evolutions of Kirby?
It's hinted in the anime that Kirby may contain a black hole or alternate dimension inside of him, and everything he inhales goes there. This sounds familiar...
- First, he has a blatant core: his body.
- Second, if you look closely, you can see a cross on his shield, and his visor is a cross. Keeping in mind the symbolism factor...
- Third, NOVA summoned the "most powerful warrior in the galaxy". As we all know, each of the Angels is "The Juggernaut", among other things.
- Therefore, Galacta Knight must be a member of the Kirby-verse's race of Angels. The difference between them and NGE's? The Kirby-verse beat them.
The planned Wii Kirby game that became Super Smash Bros.
Brawl would have been a remake of/sequel to Kirby Super Star
The Halberd is such a major presence in the Subspace Emissary, and we all know that the general level design is pretty Kirby-ish. (Just look at the Wheelies — um, Roaders). Finally, there's the upgraded cutscenes in Kirby Super Star Ultra, probably originally planned for the Wii version. We did get our Kirby game after all!
- If your partner goes too far off-screen, they return to you just like the partners in Kirby Super Star. And Sakurai created both Brawl and Kirby.
- One more: The first Ridley fight is an extremely blatant Dynablade reskin.
- How is Ridley a Dynablade reskin? The only attack he has that is even similar to one of Dynablade's is the one where he flies up and rushes towards the screen, and that was already sort of used in Super Metroid, except it didn't do damage in that game.
- Confirmed: We got Kirbys Return To Dreamland instead in 2011.
This Meta Knight, however, is well-intentioned; he is the one you see trying to help the player. The Meta Knight you see doing evil things is actually his Heartless.
- You got the right evidence to the wrong theory. This evidence proves Meta Knight is actually Riku, and Kirby is Sora.
Think about it. He assumes control of Dark Matter as its benefactor, seemingly coming from Dark Space which itself possesses various inhabitants and life forms from Pop Star and "augments" them to suit its needs (as in the case of King Dedede). This is proven in Kirby 64, where they processed living animals in the Shiver Star factory to create Miracle Matter (who also acts as another form of Dark Matter, and consequently Zero), similar to how the Collectors were harvesting humans to create a Human-Reaper
. The Heart Rod and Power Crystal are seen as a threat to them, as they are the only artifacts that can effectively purge Dark Matter from living organisms without harming them. Also, Gooey is of the same kind as Dark Matter, but much like the Geth, Gooey is perhaps able to resist the "indoctrination" of his kind.
- Then who's acting as Commander Shepard?
- Both Kirby and Commander Shepard like to dance!
- Oddly enough, King Dedede shares the same administrative functions as Ambassador Udina in Mass Effect in that he only acts as a figurehead, and is also misunderstood in terms of motive at times. Yet, he doesn't seem to have a Council to answer to, and nobody seems to care what he does...
- He's getting there. They've only met the Queen Fairy of Ripple Star, whose fairy denizens are pretty much the Asari in Kirby.
- Warp Stars have their own natural occurring Element Zero properties, which explains how Kirby is able to hop from star to star in Kirby 64: The Crystal Shards without a need of a Mass Relay. This also explains why Kirby prefers using Warps Stars to various fastidious Cool Starships in Super Smash Bros. Brawl.
- Zero's final form◊ in Dreamland 3 is enticement of the Oculus in Mass Effect 2.
Dark Matter is a Homonculus, aka, Father
, and the entire Kirby story takes place beyond someone's gate.
Look at the two, and tell me they aren't similar.
In an alternate universe, Kirby was fighting the computer virus when it suddenly glitched up and sucked Kirby in. Kirby landed in the Digital World and the first thing he met is a Dukemon who asked Kirby who he is and where he came from. Kirby responded with the standard suck and Mega Man
solution, but instead of borrowing Dukemon's powers, he Jogressed
with him. The result is Galacta Knight, who wears white armor thanks to Dukemon's overly white color scheme, a hot pink body thanks to a mixture of Kirby's pink and Dukemon's red, Dukemon's set of weapons and a few of his abilities, horns due to Dukemon's originally dragon nature, and a pair of wings that were somehow taken from Dukemon's Crimson Mode. Since Kirby is the base, Galacta Knight is not a Digimon, but since the result was from a Jogress, Kirby cannot spit the powers out either. With his newfound power, Galacta Knight ripped a hole through the space-time continuum and ended up back in his world, or so he thought. Before Galacta Knight could even realize he was in an alternate version of his world, he was sealed for his tremendous power, only to eventually be challenged by Meta Knight.
I guess he is Mr. Hungry or Mr. Copycat.
At the end of the Third Age, Sauron lost his physical form, and the ability to produce one. But, through strange eons, even death may die; and so, millions of years after the War of the Ring, Sauron returns to "life", but as a new creature. This body is now made of Dark Matter, and while his Mind Control
powers and his ability to raise the dead
are intact, he gains some sweet new powers
on the side.
- Assuming that Dark Mind is a form of Dark Matter, this is further supported by the fact that his final form looks like Sauron's eye.
The entire Kirby universe is a depiction of what happens "when the stars are right" in the Cthulhu Mythos
From The Call of Cthulhu
: "They were not composed altogether of flesh and blood. They had shape...but that shape was not made of matter. When the stars were right, They could plunge from world to world through the sky..." The Kirby universe takes place during one of these time periods, and the Warp Stars represent the incomprehensible means by which eldritch entities move from world to world.
This theory implies that nearly every creature in the Kirby universe that are not limited to living on a single planet, from the lowliest Waddle Dee to Dark Matter itself, is in fact a monster that would reduce the human mind to gibbering madness if we were to ever behold their true forms; fortunately, the games greatly reduce their complexity in order to be playable by mere humans. Some of the bosses that only appear in one game and in one location, however, might be mundane, physical beings capable of punching out eldritch abominations
, which is why, unlike most creatures in the Kirby universe, they stay dead
after they are killed (for the rest, the phrase "through strange eons, even death may die" comes to mind).
This would nicely explain why the planets in the "Pop Star System" vary from game to game: there is no Pop Star System
. Whenever we see a collection of planets Kirby can fly to (as in Kirby Superstar
and Kirby 64 The Crystal Shards
), this is merely a two- or three-dimensional simplification of the worlds he is capable of reaching based on the current position of the stars, which may be millions of light years apart in physical space, and, more likely than not, do not even exist in the same universe (which would explain why many of these planets take on bizarre shapes that could not exist in our reality). As the stars are constantly in motion, this set of planets regularly shifts. Notably, this collection of planets once included a post-apocalyptic frozen Earth in which robots had taken over
, Dark Samus WAS able to condense with the Supernova explosion of Phaaze into a dense (but weak) version of itself. However, it could not exist for long... until a star warrior from the Kirbyverse strolled by. The star warrior took pity upon the dying creature, so he inhaled it into his being. With this process, the star warrior and Metroid Prime live in tandem now, as the star warrior gives Prime fencing powers, and in exchange colors him blue and enhance his sword skills beyond comprehension with the power of Phazon.
however, there needs to be some protection. Why not make a mask to symbolize the glory days? As long as he keeps on the mask, the Popstar population will be spared from the power of Samus
, and the people of Popstar will never know they house a fugitive
of Eldritch Abomination
Kirby is a Furling
Kirby's species needs a name.
' name needs a species.
Just a very, very strange one.
Crazy? Yes. Evidence? Maybe.
In Super Star Ultra, you fight Bandanna Waddle Dee, and kill him. However, he reappears to cheer for Dedede the very next fight. Many use this as evidence of Kirby not killing his foes. But what if there's a different explanation? I can think of two:
- Another Waddle Dee put on a blue bandanna. It's just an accessory, after all. Any waddle dee could have put one on.
- Bandanna Waddle Dee is a Time Lord. Now hang on here, this might get confusing.
- The one Kirby fights actually dies; the one in the crowd is actually from the killed one's past. Crowd Bandanna Dee is actually there; being the version from that time. Heck, he might have even got the bandanna idea right then. From himself!
- The one Kirby kills is from the future - hence he knows Kirby as a friend and doesn't do anything to harm him (Hey, he would have his spear by that point!). Waddle Dee still being what he is, goes down easily. If he's fought normally, it fits that he's now more durable than other Waddle Dees from having at least one full-scale quest with Kirby. If he's inhaled in this fight... well, that makes anything his size into a One-Hit Wonder, now doesn't it?
- If so, Kirby also unknowingly killed his future friend in the past. Whoops!
Shiver Star was the result of two things in two seperate Alternate Universes
that created a nuclear winter
The "Evil Eye" enemies from the Touhou
series are a form of Dark Matter.
Other then a similar outward appearance that normal evil eyes have to dark matter (being black spheres with a single eyeball), the extra boss of Touhou 2, Evil Eye Sigma, bears a significant resemblance to 0 itself, possessing a halo as well as two wings and tentacles at its base, and is fought in a featureless void similar to the Hyper Zone.
- Furthermore, in later games, evil eyes gain four tendrils that strongly resemble the petal-like ones that conventional dark matter possesses.
The laws of physics in the vicinity of Pop Star really seem to more of guidelines. I argue reality is fairly weak in that region due to how much magic is around and how bizarre all the life is. Thus, the manifestation of horrible things from outside of spacetime is simply something to be expected.
is an incarnation/aspect of Zero.
Just look at him! White skin, red eyes
, bizarre creature in a seemingly cutesy world that operates under the principles of a Hive Mind
... Maybe Zero thought he'd be more successful if he went from a Sugar Bowl
to a straight-up Crapsaccharine World
. Or maybe Kyubey is a portion of Zero that went rogue (similar to Gooey in regards to Dark Matter), but hasn't quite been able to entirely stave off Zero's influence, hence the Lack of Empathy and Kyubey's plan on how to save the universe
Gooey is Zero.
- In KDL2: Gooey appears for the first time in any Kirby game. We know he's a "good" blob of Dark Matter.
- My guess is that Zero had copied his consciousness, then placed it within a blob of DM, to possess Kirby the same way DM possessed other powerful Popstar inhabitants. Kirby was just too powerful, and (2nd) Zero became Gooey as a result.
- By KDL3: Gooey helps Kirby defeat Zero, knowing that he would essentially kill himself, because he is Kirby's friend.
- But then, K64CS: Zero-Two appears, without his positive emotions... because Kirby killed him the first time — with Zero's own help!
That's why Gooey hasn't appeared in subsequent games.
Gooey is Zero-Two.
In the final battle of Crystal Shards, you see Zero-Two make a (for lack of a better word...) derpish face, and then the battle starts. That face looks an awful lot like the expression Gooey always had, and we never see him in the main game. So, something must of happened in between the two games. He, after some form of corruption, transformed into what we know as Zero Two. That is why he does not appear in 64. (The animal friends just didn't want to leave Pop Star). The face Zero-Two makes is him trying to feel positive emotions again and to say hello (or... goodbye) before his mind is lost and they fight.
Galacta Knight is Kirby from the future.
Who else would the greatest warrior in the galaxy be? Even as a kid, Kirby's destroyed everything that's dared to get in his way. As he grew older, his power became greater until it was decided that he should be sealed away for fear that he would inadvertently destroy Pop Star.
- How is it possible that Galacta is Kirby from the future if he was clearly sealed up in the past before Kirby's time? Unless it involves Time Travel or some other complex, paradoxical theory...
- This fanfiction elaborates on this idea about half-way through
- Or Galacta Knight is Meta Knight from the future, having grown much more powerful (and having taken his Well-Intentioned Extremist bent a bit too far). Meta Knight will become the next Galacta Knight as described in a theory below, and Time Travel will then make him the current Galacta Knight.
- Alternate theory: Galacta Knight is Meta Knight's former Mentor turned evil.
Master Hand and Crazy Hand are the Mirror World alternates of Wham Bam Rock
Look at Wham Bam Rock: a sentient religious idol who attacks with his disembodied hands, uses finger lasers when he upgrades into Wham Bam Jewel, and is made out of stone. Master and Crazy Hand are
gods, but they have the same tactics and humanlike hands.
Kirby is a threat to all of Dreamland
Semi-related to the "evil SOB" entry above. Note how all the major problems that occur in Dreamland happen because Dedede tries to preemptively handle things, and then Kirby runs in and beats the crap out of him and unleashes some ultimate evil in the process.
- ...but don't forget that he DID save Dreamland from starvation that one time Dedede stole all of the food. Maybe he holds this above everyone's heads if they ever complain to him. Or he just sucks 'em up, I don't know.
- Kirby also manages to stop all of the ultimate evils that he unwittingly unleashes, so maybe he's the universe's way of blowing up all the evil cans before a wimpy nitwit opens 'em up?
Meta Knight will become the next Galacta Knight
Seen on GameFAQs
, of all places. When Meta Knight finds Nova, he tells him that his one wish is to become stronger and stronger. Notice how Meta Knight doesn't need to explain WHY he wants to fight the ultimate warrior; all Marx had to do is say "I want to control Pop Star!" and that's it. No questions asked. Obviously, this was meant as exposition for the player. Sometime in the future, Meta Knight will reach a level of power that threatens all of Dream Land, and he may unleash another Well-Intentioned-Extremism
-fueled rampage. The result will probably end in Meta Knight either dying or being sealed away by Kirby or Dedede's hand, if they haven't been killed by Meta Knight already. This will probably happen again and again one way or another.
The Waddle Dee species is prone to genetic mutation
Hence the existence of Waddle Doos, Kirby, Meta Knight, and Galacta Knight.
Kirby was somehow fused with a piece of Dark Matter
We've already seen a "good" piece of Dark Matter in Gooey, and his powers are suspiciously similar to Kirby's. With the exception of Gooey, Kirby seems to be unique among Dream Landers. Even though Dedede can mimic Kirby's inhalation and floating powers, he hasn't yet been able to duplicate Kirby's Power Copying
. Not only that, but the nearest relatives of Kirby, the Waddle Dees and Meta Knight, also don't share his powers. The obvious conclusion is that Kirby's powers may also come from Dark Matter. This means, of course, that Dark Matter has been continually thwarted by a piece of himself.
- There are enemies Amazing Mirror and Helpers in Kirby Super Star that can copy abilities too. Maybe its just rare?
- The Kirbies in Amazing Mirror are actually mirror copies of Kirby, so it makes sense they would have his powers, and TAC (and low-health Helpers) doesn't copy things the same way Kirby does. But we still have Keeby and the Palette Swapped Kirbies from Air Ride and Return To Dream Land.
- Not mirror copies, enemies, the yellow guys who suck out Kirby's power then run off with it.
Meta Knight is incapable of copying powers
Similar to the WMG before but in a different view. Notice how members of Kirby's species can suck up enemies and copy their powers? (This is evidenced by Kirby Air Ride, although it may not be considered canon since the game is a spin-off.) We've seen Meta Knight's face enough to conclude that he's the same race as Kirby. Yet his ability to copy powers isn't even mentioned in either the games or the anime. (Though, the anime has a different universe than the games.) My theory? He's an oddball of his race, as he can't copy abilities, much less suck enemies up. To compensate for this, he learned swordfighting. (Which can explain why he's associated with Blade and Sword Knights so much.)
The characters in the Kirby games are human.
What the player sees is not reality. This "cute" appearance is done for stylistic reasons; all the characters are human. Kirby doesn't really inhale things; he is a warrior/magician who has the ability to copy powers.
Kirby is not real.
He is only a dream made real by his homeland, very similar to Tidus
Meta Knight CAN copy powers, he just chooses not to.
If we accept that Meta Knight is the same race as Kirby, we have yet to see any valid reason for him to be incapable of Kirby's techniques (besides the fact that his mask covers his mouth). But we do know that Meta Knight is not as childlike as Kirby. One interesting possibility is that Meta Knight realized the Fridge Logic
inherent in his powers and had a Heel Realization
, vowing to never eat another foe (and deciding to use a weapon instead). This casts his relationship with Kirby in a new light: Meta Knight fights Kirby because he believes their powers are too destructive to be in a child's hands, but he knows Kirby isn't intentionally evil. This also provides an alternate reason for Meta Knight to give Kirby a sword whenever they fight: he's trying to nudge Kirby into relying less on his natural powers.
Kirby is not a heartless monster. Just stupid.
Kirby only eats/kills things that he thinks have to do with the 'plot.' Most of the creatures that he eats are incapable of communicating with him due to not being sapient, or simply not having a mouth or readily available alternate methods of communication. Anything Kirby lets live has some means to communicate their innocence to him. (Except the second-tier members of the Squeaks. Those were killed each time Kirby fought them, and Daroach brought them back to life each time with the
Triple Star.) Any friends Kirby is ever depicted as having made offscreen are ONLY his friends BECAUSE he befriended offscreen, as had he encountered them in a game, they would have most likely been eaten like any other small mute creature that gets in his way. The final bosses COULD communicate with Kirby, but are definitively guilty of whatever reason Kirby is pissed off, so they get to be killed by the awesome might that is the adorable pink gum-ball known as Kirby.
- Explain Waddle Dee in Crystal Shards? He's killed plenty of them before and since. There's no proof that Waddle Dee didn't just go back to normal after that game, so Kirby may have killed the little fellow that helped him! And it might not be canon, but the Waddle Dees in Air Ride - they run out of the way when they see you coming, if they aren't in a minecart. A cart kind of like the one CS Waddle Dee gives you a ride in, now that I think about it.
- It is shown in Super Star that there are peaceful versions of the Kirby creatures that he does not fight and enemy versions that he does. He mostly sees the former only in cutscenes but so long as Waddle Dee of Crystal Shards remained in that group Kirby most likely left him alone.
Kirby's devouring of his enemies is not at all harmful to them.
When Kirby "eats" a foe, he is not killing them or digesting them in a traditional sense. His actions against them are merely an inconvenience to the poor creature. You see, after Kirby eats a foe, all it takes to make that character respawn is to leave the screen, and return to that spot. The enemy is there, good as new! Rather than being left inside his belly to be digested, these foes are immediately ejected in some unseen process. This troper makes the assumption that Kirby, and all "Kirbies", can either fully digest their intake, or eject it after absorbing whatever special properties they can take away from it. Besides the reappearing enemies, one other thing may corroborate this theory: In the Super Smash Bros games, when Kirby swallows an enemy, this is exactly what happens. The foe is pooted out and regains their full form instantly!
- To add a darker tone to this theory, the soul of the enemy escapes Kirby, and recreates its body when he's far enough.
- In "Revenge of the King", right before you fight King De De De, you fight a "Boss" Waddle Dee with a bandana who can be killed in one hit by inhaling and swallowing him. Either way, he sits and watches as the only member in the audience while you fight King De De De.
Dark Matter is a physical manifestation of malice, and Gooey's form was somehow altered.
All Dark Matter beings seem to be able to do is either act violent and destructive, or make others act the same way. It causes despair and pain, and turns the closest allies into foes. This troper assumes that, normally, this is all Dark Matter is capable of, and all it is made of. And there is only one strange exception: Gooey. Gooey is made entirely of Dark Matter, yet has no malice. Something either robbed him of it, or corrupted him with some positive quality. Unable to become a benevolent being, this corruption led him instead to lose his mind, hence the gleefully senseless blob we see in the games.
- This troper thinks that Kirby ate him, left him in his mouth for a bit while doing whatever Kirby does between games (eat and be happy I suppose), and Kirby's natural laziness and happiness just passed onto Gooey. Of course, Gooey's a bit crazy because he's still a bit of Dark Matter, and he shouldn't be able to be nice.
Kirby's games are only relatively easy because Kirby is so powerful.
This guy can suck up nearly anything and copy its powers, then use those powers against things that just shouldn't be
. He's quite clearly an Eldritch Abomination
, and a very powerful one, after a Heel-Face Turn
. For any other being not named YHVH
, even the most Badass
of them, a Kirby game would more closely resemble I Wanna Be the Guy
, but harder
. Indeed, there's a reason the hero in You Have to Burn the Rope
is so Kirby-like: that's Kirby, after swallowing Indiana Jones, going through a "normal" game.
- If he was an eldritch abomination he wouldn't need all the Eleventh Hour Superpowers he gets and wouldn't have been turned into a ball by Drawcia.
Meta Knight can swallow enemies.
He doesn't use this power because 1.) He would have to take off his mask, and expose his cuteness. 2.) Meta Knight is too cool for that. And 3.) Meta Knight is a mutated Kirby
and when he tries to swallow a foe, he eats their soul instead.
Galacta Knight is a higher rank than Meta Knight.
In Dream Land, there's a ranking for knights. Meta- and Galacta- just happen to be a ranking. Kirby's is most likely Star.
GIM is a newer model of Heavy Lobster.
It'd be one thing if they were both bipedal robots who just happened to share the same Gold/Blue coloring scheme, but in Helper to Hero mode of Kirby Super Star Ultra, they both change their color palettes, and they both get the same new Silver/Red coloring!
Meta Knight is a double-crosser.
In the original information on Meta Knight he was a good friend of Dedede. So good a friend, in fact, that Dedede gives MK a piece of the Star Rod to protect. Come a few games later, Meta Knight is out to take control over what Dedede has claimed by using a giant battle ship to destroy all in his way. What a great friend.
Meta Knight is blind.
Well, he has the Milky White Eyes
for it. Maybe the mask helps him see, and that's
why he always flees when he loses it.
Unifying with the (possibly false) fact that Meta Knight doesn't like to use his powers, Dedede is of Kirby's species.
He chose hammer.
02 is called that for a reason.
It isn't a zero, it's an O. O2 stands for oxygen, which is what Kirby sucks in whenever there are no enemies. Therefore, O2 is more related to Kirby than one might think.
- Well, it's more of around 78% nitrogen...
There is more than one titular Kirby
There's a Kirby that gets hats when he swallows certain enemies (the most current one), a Kirby that doesn't get hats (Dreamland through Crystal Shards) but still gets copy abilities, and a Kirby that can't copy abilities at all. The middle one might actually be two - one that can fuse abilities and one that can't. This would also mean that the name of his species is in fact "kirby", since all of them are referred to as such.
The name is capitalized for individuals simply because they don't have a specific name, so "Kirby" is both the name of the individuals and the species as a whole. They just slightly vary in their ability to copy. This could explain the mysterious lack of his friends in recent games - it's a different kirby, so he doesn't know them.
This could also coincide with the idea of Meta Knight being a member of the species. It is possible that there is a special variant of the species that can choose one ability and make it permanent. That, or it's a)
a given that any member that can copy abilities can choose one to be "permanent" or b)
they actually can learn to use certain things, just like anyone else (i.e. spear waddle dees). It wouldn't effect their powers in the least, just give them an option on whether to use them or not.
Kirby's Copy inhaling doesn't kill its victims.
This is best shown in Super Smash Bros. (although I am aware that that's not the real Kirby), although it's always possible to bring back Kirby's enemies by leaving that area of the screen and then returning. Also, if you swallow the Waddle Dee with the blue bandanna in "Revenge of the King," he survives. In fact, you can do anything
to him and he survives. With the exception of final bosses that Kirby kills using their specific weakness, the enemies don't die, they are teleported or something.
Kirby and Meta Knight are NOT of the same species.
If you look very carefully, you notice that Kirby has pink flaps for hands, Meta Knight has arms AND hands! This is especially noticeable in Super Smash Brothers Brawl
and Kirby of the Stars
- But Meta Knight is supposed to be older than Kirby. So maybe as they get older they get arms?
- In the Japanese-only game Kirby's Star Stacker, when Meta Knight is shown without his mask and armor, his limbs and face look exactly like Kirby's.
- Further supporting the alternative: In earlier games, Meta Knight has limbs that look exactly like Kirby's. In newer games (and the anime), he has thin arms and hands (leading to the Fan Nickname of "Senor Noodlearms").
- Their bone structure is such that they can rearrange them to make their arms end in nubs or hands. This also allows them to squeeze into tight spaces.
- Or Meta Knight has gloves that are magic like his space bending cape that turns into wings and are actually magical/mechanical and he began using them when he began using his cape.
- Brawl in the Family opposes this. Apparently, Meta Knight looked identical to Kirby in Cocoon Academy. That is, until parts of Dark Matter got mixed with him.
Meta Knight is extremely vain.
The Codec calls in Super Smash Brothers
states that he's "narcassistic", and the fact he's plastered his face on the bow of a warship. Therefore, MK doesn't wear his mask because he's GRIMDARK
, he uses it to protect his cute features! As soon as he loses his mask, he fears his looks will be damaged forever in battle, and flees. Still totally badass, though.
- Well, it is implied in Kirby's Epic Yarn that Meta Knight wears the mask to look mysterious...and undoubtedly cool.
The Kirby series is connected to Final Fantasy IV.
Kirby is Cecil, Meta Knight is *obviously* Golbez, Zero is Zemus/Zeromus, Dedede is the reborn (true) King Baron; et cetera. Who is Kain? Prince Fluff of course!
- So that means that... Meta Knight is Kirby's brother?
Meta Knight is Kirby's adult form
Think about it.
- In Super Star, Meta Knight could perform Mach Tornado without the aid of a Copy Ability. Mach Tornado is the strongest attack that he has in most games, and in his playable appearance it was the gameplay equivalent of Crash.
- He could shoot fire and lightning from Galaxia in Squeak Squad: Flame and Spark, anyone?
- I don't have to mention Sword, do I?
- He also has super-speed and can use Full Heal on himself as many times as he wants to.
Other unrelated points are:
- He and Kirby are not the only Kirbies in existence, as evidenced by Keeby and all of those other mini-game Kirbies.
- Copying is not a skill unique to the Kirby species: the TAC can also copy.
The proof is in Brawl in the Family
. The reason Kirby keeps taking down Dedede is for two possible reasons: A. Kirby never lived it down, or B. Kirby thinks Defeat Equals Friendship
The Real origin of Kirby, Meta Knight, and Dedede
A combination of several WMG s above and it makes a lot of sense.
There was once a peaceful race of odd creatures called the Waddle Dees. Dark Matter had existed for even longer. One day a fragment of Dark Matter drifted down to the pop star and fused with a Waddle Dee. The next thing he knew, he woke up, he could think in a whole new way, and he had a mouth. With that mouth came a crippling hunger that could only be satisfied by the nearest waddle dees. Interestingly, after eating a Waddle Doo, he got the power of it. He practiced his copy power and named himself Dedede. He decided with his superior brain he could rule the Waddle Dee race.
Years later King Dedede had easily taken over the planet. But as he got older, it got harder to use his power. When he hit puberty, he couldn't do it anymore. He made sure he had the hammer power, his favorite, before that happened. Right around that time, another piece of Dark Matter fell upon a Waddle dee.D He
eventually realized how different he was and thinking he was a freak, ran away. He passed the lonely days by practicing the sword ability. People who saw glimpses of him called him "Meta Knight"
Soon after Meta Knight hit puberty, keeping the sword ability, King Dedede had expanded his rule across the solar system. And yet another piece of Dark Matter fused with a Waddle Dee. This one was not shy and ate whatever it wanted. King Dedede wanted this "Kirby" (Named by Pop star inhabitants) destroyed and order restored because, being one himself, he knew how powerful that species is.
In relation to a couple of theories above about how Kirby doesn't kill enemies he sucks in,...
...this is perfectly true and there is a perfectly good reason for this. As detailed by those theories, when you inhale an enemy and then walk offscreen, it reappears, even if you haven't swallowed them yet, meaning you can take them out and have two of them. This would indicate that what is in Kirby's mouth is not the actual enemy, merely a shell containing their power. Obviously, the moment they are sucked in, they start to re-coalesce, not having been dead for an instant. And the reason for this: it's a dream! It seems to make sense that Dream
land would follow dream
logic, and, just as there's no death in a child's world
, there's no death in Dreamland, hence why you can kill Kracko or Whispy Woods as many times as you like and they can still come back. At best, Kirby's just mildly inconveniencing them, and getting them out of his way until he can get past them. Oh, and before anyone mentions Freddy Krueger
, remember that a) the ability to kill people in dreams seems to be a unique ability he possesses, and the above evidence that Kirby doesn't kill his enemies shows he doesn't have this ability, and b) Kirby could kick Freddy's arse. Just trust me on this one.
Kirby and friends/enemies know they're in a video game.
That's why no one's particularly fazed at Kirby eating thousands of Waddle Dees/Knuckle Joes/Wheelies/what-have-you, since they know they'll just come back to life after Kirby leaves the screen.
Kirby needs to eat, otherwise he'd die.
The anime suggest an alternate dimension, right? However, it also suggests a black hole as well, which is far more likely(black holes absorb matter and add it to their own; Kirby absorbs enemy matter and adds their power to his, allowing him to copy them). If he had a black hole in him, then it would constantly be stripping away his matter. It's been happening all his life, so Kirby doesn't notice. He inhales enemies to give the black hole something else to destroy. This explains his reaction to his cake getting stolen; he was probably at a critical state and was hanging on by a thread. Makes you "no-copy-abilities" players regret your play methods, doesn't it?
- So basically he's forced to devour innocents to save himself from default? That would explain the whole 'get in my way, I eat you' thing in the games. What happens if the black hole destroys him, or someone finally actually defeats him? Does it continue with the rest around it? Meaning, any land Kirby decides to live in is screwed whether he lives or dies, via residents being constantly eaten to satiate the literal black hole or via the black hole getting out of hand... Crap, that's scary. Wouldn't explain Meta Knight, though.
- Most likely, Meta Knight's use of Galaxia keeps the black hole under control. Maybe that's why he keeps trying to stop Kirby; he's trying to keep Dreamland safe. Also, black holes dissipate if small enough.
- Also, the black hole can be destroyed, but only when Kirby gains access to every ability at once. Cue Milky Way Wishes. This may also explain Kirby going on a rampage after a cake got stolen...
Galacta Knight wasn't immediately at full power when he was unsealed
He was weakened from his time spent in his crystal prison. Maybe he'll be a major antagonist later when he finally gets back to full power.
- Semi-confirmed. It's at least been confirmed that he's still alive, as of Return to Dreamland, but whether he will ever be more than a miniboss like a certain dark side of a legendary hero remains to be seen.
Meta Knight's mask is his equivalent of Kirby's copy hats.
He flees when you break it because you just knocked his copy ability away. Since Kirby doesn't summon enemies or stars or anything to inhale, the fight is now unwinnable for him, and so he retreats.
In future Kirby installments, Zero's invasion never happened.
In Kirby's Dreamland 3, the huge Dark Matter that Zero used to invade Pop Star broke the rings that circled it. After Zero is defeated, three rays of light (red, blue, and green) become the new rings for Pop Star. We've never seen these three rings ever again. Therefore, in every future Kirby game where Pop Star has two rings, Zero's invasion hasn't happened, yet.
Bandana Waddle Dee is the same Waddle Dee from 64.
Because why not?
- That could be his origin as a stand-out of his kind, actually. He would have had more adventure time with Dedede than a normal Waddle Dee by then.
Kirby is actually a piece of Dark Matter
Probably just me thinking too much but it really makes sense in a way. First off in the first Kirby game (and in Spring Breeze) it's implied that Kirby apparently came out of nowhere. The game literally says that he's the hero of Dreamland and that some residents call him Kirby. Note the fact that "some" residents call him Kirby. As if no one knew about Kirby and only know him as the 'Hero of Dreamland'. Seems like a normal hero with unknown story, right?
That is until the Eldritch Abominations show up. For such a cute-looking game, why would monsters like Zero/Zero-Two, Nightmare, and Drawcia show up? And according to the Japanese manuals it seems that apparently nearly all the other villians of the Kirby series were involved with Zero/Zero-Two somehow and Zero/Zero-Two is the main Big Bad. Now think about how it seems that Zero/Zero-Two has a personal vendetta with Kirby as the villians that were involved with Dark Matter/Zero seem to try to kill Kirby themselves, as if trying to avenge their leader. Now what would a giant eyeball demon have against a cute pink alien?
The answer is simple. Kirby was created by Zero/Zero-Two and is techinically a Dark Matter agent
. Zero/Zero-Two used a race that was unknown to the rest of the galaxy and based Kirby on that race piece
. Kirby was created to trick planets into thinking that Kirby was a nice harmless alien while he secretly conquering the planet for Zero/Zero-Two
. However, this backfired as Kirby, either not interested in conquering planets
or liked his target planet
, which, in this case, is Pop Star, so much that he didn't want to have it under Zero/Zero-Two's rule
. Zero/Zero-Two didn't react well when learning that one of his creations had disobeyed him and actually saved the target planet from Dark Matter.
After Zero/Zero-Two's defeat, Kirby, betraying his original purpose
, is Dreamland's, and extently Pop Star's, main source of protection, as if to show that he will never give in to Zero/Zero-Two's control
- That's roughly the same as my theory on why Gooey a friendly Dark Matter, and why he vanished after Dreamland 3.
PETA will complain about how Kirby
They've already done it to Mario
. They're probably gonna start complaining about how Kirby encourages kids to eat animals.
Kirby is an alternate Galactus.
Like Galactus, Kirby is a God of Hunger that came into being when the last survivor of the previous universe merged with it. Unlike Galactus, however, this survivor was a candy-loving child. Much like Galactus, Kirby has an unimaginable hunger, but the Sugar Bowl
provides more than enough candy to prevent him eating the planet(of course Kirby could've eaten planets before going to Popstar
). Both of their true apperances are hinted to be a star, which explains why Kirby and stars are associated with them. It also goes to explain why Kirby pwns cosmic horrors on a daily basis
-he's one himself.
Zero's motives aren't the same as Dark Matter's.
The Japanese player's guide for Kirby's Dream Land 2 states that the Dark Matter from that game targeted Pop Star because it grew jealous of Dream Land's lifestyle and it was lonely due to the fact no one wanted to be its friend yet it says nothing about Zero's motives and since Gooey is a form of Dark Matter it's possible that the Dark Matter that attacked Dreamland isn't under Zero's control.
Zero is Nightmare after having absorbed a large amount of Dark Matter.
Have you noticed that Nightmare's pair of shades have a single black-chromed lens which always prevents us from telling how many eyes his face has? What if there's only on eye under those shades and it's a red eye specifically the eye of Zero? What if Nightmare at some point absorbed a large amount of Dark Matter and became Zero?
It's a giant evil d20 and stupidly difficult
, what do YOU think?
Zero's motive for raising a ruckus is apparently that he's jealous of the people of Dream Land / Pop Star because they can feel positive emotions, whereas he can only feel negative emotions; cherubim are only capable of forming caliginous relationships (i.e. romantic relationships based on hate instead of love), so that fits the bill. They also like to hang out in black holes, as he does in Kirby 64
(he spends most of the game covertly reigning over Ripple Star, the planet closest to the black hole, Dark Star, at the center of the Kirby "galaxy"), and when he morphs into 0^2, he's first briefly seen as a cutesy angel figure, complete with white feathery wings and a halo - a literal cherub. That may not actually be his true form, though, but a simpler depiction that's easier for Ribbon and Kirby to understand.
Every final/Secret boss is Marx in some shape or form.
Think about it. Marx's wish to NOVA was that they became the Ruler of Popstar. This carrys out and is cemented through time and space until the wish is For-filled. Each re-incarnation eventually shatters more and more of him until he becomes the trope of Andimustscream.
Marx: Obvious first stage.
Marx Soul: Obvious second stage. Body destroyed.
Necrodeus: Third incarnation. Body destroyed.
Nightmare: Fourth incarnation. Body destroyed.
Magolor: Fifth incarnation. Split into two entities, original destroyed.
Stupid timeline hypothesis (current/spoilers as of Triple Deluxe)
I decided to do this, yeah, because why not? Non-platformers will not be included since they usually have really no plot with King Dedede as the villain, which doesn't fit in with the other games at all
. Reasons for placement in the timeline will also be listed.
: Earliest in the timeline. Kirby meets Meta Knight for the first time and doesn't really know who he is yet, which is why he's so easily tricked (presumably) by Dark Meta Knight. Additionally, Dark Mete Knight's sword slash at the beginning of the game is how the other three colored Kirbies in later multiplayer games are created in the first place. Kirby has not met King Dedede yet. Also, Meta Knight does not yet have the Meta-Knights by his side, and begins to gather them after this.
: Kirby meets Dedede for the first time in this game, and has not yet come into conflict with him. He sees an innocent life, and wants to protect it because he's such a friendly guy. Later, King Dedede returns to explore Floarald and accidentally meets Dark Meta Knight, who was not actually destroyed at the end of Amazing Mirror
. Since Dark Mind was defeated in Amazing Mirror
, the evil was purged from the Mirror World, so Dark Meta Knight decided to conquer Dream Land instead, but is defeated. Since Dark Meta Knight was badly injured in Amazing Mirror
, he is bloody in this game. Additionally, Dedede destroys the mirror at the end, permanently cutting off contact with the Mirror World.
Dream Land 2
: The Dark Matter in this game is a scout, who has come to Pop Star to see how hard it would be to conquer. It possesses King Dedede, who is still allied with Kirby, in a bid to take over Dream Land. It fails, reporting back to the Hyper Zone (the central Dark Matter cloud) and 0 about the status of the planet. Additionally, Kirby becomes acquainted with the Animal Friends and Gooey, who informs him about Dark Matter, here.
Dream Land 3
: Since one Dark Matter proved too weak to conquer the planet, the entire Hyper Zone comes to Pop Star and covers it in darkness, and also possesses many residents of the planet. Kirby defeats them with the power of love, and then confronts 0, who reveals /itself for the first time. It is killed as well, being a fully mortal and independent being, unlike Dark Matter. After 0 is killed, the Hyper Zone begins to dissipate without a leader and Dark Matter is not heard from for a while.
: Dark Matter reappears, now led by the mysteriously resurrected 02 in Dark Star, a new Hyper Zone even larger than before due to the undead 02's more powerful creation capability. It avoids invading Pop Star, realizing now that such a thing would be impossible, and invades Ripple Star instead. However, Ribbon escapes, chased to Pop Star by Dark Matter. The two team up with several others (including King Dedede, still allied with Kirby), and Dark Matter has a limited presence on Pop Star this time. Kirby eventually travels to Dark Star and destroys 02 (possibly resurrected by some method involving Gooey, considering Gooey's disappearance and 02's face upon appearing), preventing the Hyper Zone from ever returning as a coherent entity.
Kirby vs. Sectonia Soul Phase 1
: Queen Sectonia, grasping for any chance to stay alive, eats four Miracle Fruits to get one last chance to defeat Kirby. Of course, she fails, sending her into a coma until after the events of the New Challenge Stages.
: Not a lot to say here. Honestly, this could be any time before Revenge of Meta Knight. Kirby becomes friends with Dyna Blade at the end of this.
The Great Cave Offensive
: Kirby falls into a cave with TREASURE! Oh boy. Really story driven, yeah.
: King Dedede challenges Kirby to a friendly race. However, upon losing, the greedy bastard starts to get angry and plots revenge against Kirby.
Dream Land/Spring Breeze
: It's safe to assume that these two represent the same events. King Dedede, using his nebulous and undefined political power, steals all the food from the citizens of Dream Land in an attempt to get back at Kirby for beating him in Gourmet Race. Kirby goes to defeat Dedede and succeeds, sparking a continual distrust between the two that affects all future encounters.
Revenge of the King
: Angry again at being beaten by Kirby, Dedede plots revenge against Kirby, first by poisoning the plants of Green Greens (where Kirby lives, presumably), transforming it into Purple Plants. Kirby goes to defeat him again. As seen in the final stage, Dedede still holds a lot of respect for Kirby even when greedy and irrational. He has also appointed the Bandanna Waddle Dee as his senior advisor (or something like that) by this point, and now employs the EX mini-bosses.
Adventure/Nightmare in Dream Land
: Obviously the same events. The Star Rod is gone, and King Dedede has stolen it. After being antagonized by Dedede repeatedly, Kirby assumes that this is another of Dedede's revenge plots. Of course, it turns out to be a measure against Nightmare taking over Dream Land. Kirby handily defeats Nightmare and saves Dream Land again. Additionally, Meta Knight appears in this game and appears to be training Kirby in some way. Fed up with Dedede's ridiculous revenge antics, and now sporting a personal army, he becomes close enough to the king to be given a Star Rod piece, which of course brings him into conflict with Kirby and gives them a reason to fight. He does this to ensure that Dedede is finally defeated by Kirby for real, to the point that Meta Knight can instate a more stable government.
Revenge of Meta Knight
: This is Meta Knight's revenge against Dedede, not Kirby, despite what one might assume. After Kirby fails to depose King Dedede in Nightmare in Dream Land, Meta Knight decides to take matters into his own hands. However, Kirby misinterprets this as a threat against Dream Land in general and destroys the Halberd. Meta Knight, stoic as ever, knows that he cannot defeat Kirby but also knows that Kirby is not evil, so he does not hold any sort of grudge. After being defeated, the remaining Meta-Knights disband and spread across Pop Star's system, thereby appearing in Milky Way Wishes.
: Drawcia, who may or may not be related to Dark Matter in some way, takes over Dream Land. After being killed, her soul immediately takes revenge against Kirby, completely transforming Dream Land into a world of paint. However, Kirby defeats her and restores peace… again.
: Patch Land may or may not be the future state of the Mirror World after it was taken over by Yin-Yarn. If so, Prince Fluff is Shadow Kirby under a different name and Yin-Yarn is the Mirror version of Drawcia. Kirby defeats Yin-Yarn and restores peace to both worlds, as usual.
Milky Way Wishes
: Marx is probably from Halcandra (Magolor's planet), not Pop Star. He is already familiar from Kirby, who has become well-known around the galaxy for being a badass
. As such, he knows that Kirby will be willing to help him if peace in the galaxy is on the line, so he gets the sun and moon to fight and then sends Kirby to wake up NOVA. Citizens of Pop Star are unfamiliar with NOVA and the other Fountains of Dreams, but Marx knows about all of them since they were probably
build on Halcandra. Kirby successfully summons NOVA, who he is forced to destroy after being betrayed by Marx. He then defeats Marx, and the resulting impact completely obliterates NOVA.
Kirby vs. Marx Soul: Soon after being defeated, Marx uses the last of his power to draw in the remaining pieces of NOVA using an ancient Halcandran magic technique and becomes Marx Soul. Marx Soul is much more powerful than his original form and he transports himself and Kirby to a pocket universe of his own creation where no one will hear Kirby's screams. Kirby defeats Marx Soul, and, ironically, no one hears Marx Soul's ear-piercing scream as he dies. The pocket universe collapses and Kirby goes home. (It's safe to assume that all other Arena events are non-canon except possibly Triple Deluxe's True Arena final boss, Sectonia Soul).
: Kirby and Dedede are still not on good terms, so when Kirby gets really
hungry and his cake is stolen, he assumes that Dedede did it in his blind fury. Kirby beats up Dedede, who is not heard from for the rest of the game, as the Squeaks appear with what Kirby believes to be his cake. Kirby follows the Squeaks and defeats them, but the chest is suddenly stolen by Meta Knight, who believes it contains the ruler of the underworld, and now takes residence in the sunken Halberd. After Kirby reclaims the chest, the Squeaks steal it again and release Dark Nebula, who is not actually the ruler of the underworld, but rather one of the last remaining Dark Matter entities, which Meta Knight is completely unfamiliar with. Kirby defeats Dark Nebula, likely eliminating Dark Matter completely, and becomes friends with the Squeaks. The cake is also returned to him by the Squeaks.
Meta Knightmare Ultra
: This is a rigorous training session undertaken by Meta Knight. After training all across Pop Star, including building a replica of the Halberd using the help of his few remaining henchmen, he decides to revive NOVA and gathers the stars from the Fountains of Dream, successfully summoning NOVA. He wishes for a fight with the greatest warrior in the galaxy, and gets Galacta Knight. Meta Knight successfully defeats him. His lifelong dreams fulfilled, Meta Knights settles down in Cookie Country with a good book.
Return to Dream Land
follows Squeak Squad. While Kirby is trying to find a good place to eat his cake, King Dedede and Bandanna Waddle Dee appear and attempt to take it from him out of revenge for randomly beating up Dedede last time. At that moment, the Lor Starcutter crashes on Pop Star. Kirby and Dedede temporarily reconcile their differences to go figure out what's happening. Meta Knight joins the group as well. Magolor heard about Kirby from Marx and crashed there on purpose in attempt to martyr himself and gain ultimate power. Eventually, Kirby repairs the Starcutter and travels with Magolor to Halcandra, where Kirby defeats Landia. Magolor then obtains the Master Crown, which begins to take control of him using its malevolent power. Kirby and friends defeat Magolor with the help of Landia. When Magolor is defeated, however, the Crown takes complete control of Magolor's soul and fights Kirby again. Kirby, however, takes out Magolor Soul and restores peace to the galaxy once again.
Kirby vs. Sectonia Soul Phase 2
: Sectonia, waking up from her coma, went insane after having to re-live her death over and over again, tries a last ditch attempt to kill Kirby once and for all by ripping her head and wings off of the Dreamstalk for one last battle. Sectonia loses, and is now dead for good.
Please comment with any criticism or inconsistencies you notice.
- probably a lot of inconsistencies but i would put kirby vs sectonia part 2 near part one wear it's kirby runs around and eats people for shits and giggles. and checks on sectonia
similar to Epic Yarn,
played very differently from other Kirby games, in the sense that they did not involve Kirby copying powers, or flying. Now, which of Nintendo's franchises would normally involve a lot of teamwork?
. What if Mass Attack
was originally an attempt at a handheld Pikmin
King Dedede stole Dream Land's food for political power.
In Kirby's Dream Land, King Dedede steals all of Dream Land's food, along with the Sparkling Star that is needed to harvest food. If he did this solely out of greed, why would King Dedede need to prevent them from harvesting more food? Perhaps because he didn't have any real political authority, and he needed some leverage to force the inhabitants of Dream Land to submit to his rule, or else they would all starve. That's why this act is so out of character for the otherwise well-meaning king; he just wanted to have more power to effectively run Dream Land.
Kirby is such a bad singer because when he sings...
He's actually EXHALING. Not because he's an Eldritch Abomination or anything like that.