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30th Aug '16 7:59:55 PM Tailikku
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** This is good, but there are some [[CriticalResearchFailure errors]] regarding this theory:
--> 1. Daroache's theme in Mass Attack is called "Daroache Reunion," meaning that he has already met Kirby (or in this case the Kirbies) before. At no point does Daroache get to introduce himself in Squeak Squad, so if he was starting over, this would be the best time to "properly" introduce himself.
--> 2. Aren't Spring Breeze and the first game practically the one and the same? Both of them involve Dedede stealing all the food in Dream Land.
--> 3. One of Stone Kirby's transformations in Triple Deluxe is a statue of both Marx ''and'' Magolor. So how could Kirby turn into a statue of the two of them, if he never knew the second? So I would probably restructure it like this:

* Kirby’s Dream Land / Spring Breeze (Kirby Super Star)
* Kirby’s Dream Land 2
* Kirby’s Dream Land 3
* Kirby 64: The Crystal Shards
* Kirby: Nightmare in Dream Land
* Dyna Blade (Kirby Super Star)
* The Great Cave Offensive (Kirby Super Star)
* Revenge of Meta Knight (Kirby Super Star)
* Milky Way Wishes (Kirby Super Star)
* Kirby: Squeak Squad
* Kirby: Canvas Curse
* Kirby Mass Attack
* Meta Knightmare Ultra (Kirby Super Star Ultra)
* Kirby’s Return to Dream Land
* Kirby & the Amazing Mirror
* Story Mode (Kirby: Triple Deluxe)
* Kirby’s Epic Yarn
* Dededetour (Kirby: Triple Deluxe)
* Revenge of the King (Kirby Super Star Ultra)
* Kirby and the Rainbow Curse
* Gourmet Race (Kirby Super Star)
* New Challenge Stages (Kirby’s Dream Collection: Special Edition)
* Kirby Planet Robobot
21st Jul '16 2:11:45 PM MauveSilly
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Although the games never clarify exactly what Zero is, some internal evidence suggests that it is the Satan of the ''{{Kirby}}'' universe. Zero Two has white wings and a halo, indicating that the creature is a fallen angel. Zero's minions, the Dark Matter, possess people and compel them to do evil, as demons do in the Bible. Finally, Zero's motivations for shrouding planets in darkness are its own constant misery and inability to feel positive emotions, the same as Satan in ''ParadiseLost''. (This interpretation may mean that [[spoiler:the true final battle of ''Kirby'sDreamLand3'', wherein Kirby defeats Zero by overwhelming it with a weapon embodying positivity]], has Christian undertones to it, which is otherwise unusual for the franchise.)

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Although the games never clarify exactly what Zero is, some internal evidence suggests that it is the Satan of the ''{{Kirby}}'' universe. Zero Two has white wings and a halo, indicating that the creature is a fallen angel. Zero's minions, the Dark Matter, possess people and compel them to do evil, as demons do in the Bible. Finally, Zero's motivations for shrouding planets in darkness are its own constant misery and inability to feel positive emotions, the same as Satan in ''ParadiseLost''. (This interpretation may mean that [[spoiler:the true final battle of ''Kirby'sDreamLand3'', ''KirbysDreamLand3'', wherein Kirby defeats Zero by overwhelming it with a weapon embodying positivity]], has Christian undertones to it, which is otherwise unusual for the franchise.)
21st Jul '16 2:11:07 PM MauveSilly
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Although the games never clarify exactly what Zero is, some internal evidence suggests that it is the Satan of the ''{{Kirby}}'' universe. Zero Two has white wings and a halo, indicating that the creature is a fallen angel. Zero's minions, the Dark Matter, possess people and compel them to do evil, as demons do in the Bible. Finally, Zero's motivations for shrouding planets in darkness are its own constant misery and inability to feel positive emotions, the same as Satan in ''ParadiseLost''. (This interpretation may mean that [[the true final battle of ''Kirby'sDreamLand3'', wherein Kirby defeats Zero by overwhelming it with a weapon embodying positivity]], has Christian undertones to it, which is otherwise unusual for the franchise.)

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Although the games never clarify exactly what Zero is, some internal evidence suggests that it is the Satan of the ''{{Kirby}}'' universe. Zero Two has white wings and a halo, indicating that the creature is a fallen angel. Zero's minions, the Dark Matter, possess people and compel them to do evil, as demons do in the Bible. Finally, Zero's motivations for shrouding planets in darkness are its own constant misery and inability to feel positive emotions, the same as Satan in ''ParadiseLost''. (This interpretation may mean that [[the [[spoiler:the true final battle of ''Kirby'sDreamLand3'', wherein Kirby defeats Zero by overwhelming it with a weapon embodying positivity]], has Christian undertones to it, which is otherwise unusual for the franchise.)
21st Jul '16 2:10:40 PM MauveSilly
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[[WMG: Zero is {{Satan}}.]]
Although the games never clarify exactly what Zero is, some internal evidence suggests that it is the Satan of the ''{{Kirby}}'' universe. Zero Two has white wings and a halo, indicating that the creature is a fallen angel. Zero's minions, the Dark Matter, possess people and compel them to do evil, as demons do in the Bible. Finally, Zero's motivations for shrouding planets in darkness are its own constant misery and inability to feel positive emotions, the same as Satan in ''ParadiseLost''. (This interpretation may mean that [[the true final battle of ''Kirby'sDreamLand3'', wherein Kirby defeats Zero by overwhelming it with a weapon embodying positivity]], has Christian undertones to it, which is otherwise unusual for the franchise.)
8th Jul '16 9:00:56 PM sailing101
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[[folder Zero[=/=]02]]

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8th Jul '16 8:59:41 PM sailing101
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[[folder Zero[=/=]02]]
[[WMG:Gooey is Zero.]]
* In ''[=KDL2=]'': Gooey appears for the first time in any Kirby game. We know he's a "good" blob of Dark Matter.
** My guess is that Zero had copied his consciousness, then placed it within a blob of DM, to possess Kirby the same way DM possessed other powerful Popstar inhabitants. Kirby was just too powerful, and (2nd) Zero became Gooey as a result.
* By ''[=KDL3=]'': Gooey helps Kirby defeat Zero, knowing that he would essentially kill himself, because he is Kirby's friend.
* But then, ''[=K64CS=]'': Zero-Two appears, without his positive emotions... because Kirby killed him the first time -- with Zero's own help!

That's why Gooey hasn't appeared in subsequent games.

[[WMG:Gooey is Zero-Two.]]
In the final battle of Crystal Shards, you see Zero-Two make a (for lack of a better word...) derpish face, and then the battle starts. That face looks an awful lot like the expression Gooey always had, and we never see him in the main game. So, something must of happened in between the two games. He, after some form of corruption, transformed into what we know as Zero Two. That is why he does not appear in 64. (The animal friends just didn't want to leave Pop Star). The face Zero-Two makes is him trying to feel positive emotions again and to say hello (or... goodbye) before his mind is lost and they fight.

[[WMG:02 is called that for a reason.]]
It isn't a zero, it's an O. O2 stands for oxygen, which is what Kirby sucks in whenever there are no enemies. Therefore, O2 is more related to Kirby than one might think.
* Well, it's more of around 78% nitrogen...

[[WMG: In future Kirby installments, Zero's invasion never happened.]]
In Kirby's Dreamland 3, the huge Dark Matter that Zero used to invade Pop Star broke the rings that circled it. After Zero is defeated, three rays of light (red, blue, and green) become the new rings for Pop Star. We've never seen these three rings ever again. Therefore, in every future Kirby game where Pop Star has two rings, Zero's invasion hasn't happened, yet.

[[WMG:Zero's motives aren't the same as Dark Matter's.]]
The Japanese player's guide for Kirby's Dream Land 2 states that the Dark Matter from that game targeted Pop Star because it grew jealous of Dream Land's lifestyle and it was lonely due to the fact no one wanted to be its friend yet it says nothing about Zero's motives and since Gooey is a form of Dark Matter it's possible that the Dark Matter that attacked Dreamland isn't under Zero's control.

[[WMG:Zero is Nightmare after having absorbed a large amount of Dark Matter.]]
Have you noticed that Nightmare's pair of shades have a single black-chromed lens which always prevents us from telling how many eyes his face has? What if there's only on eye under those shades and it's a red eye specifically the eye of Zero? What if Nightmare at some point absorbed a large amount of Dark Matter and became Zero?

[[WMG: Zero is a [[{{Webcomic/Homestuck}} cherub.]]]]
Zero's motive for raising a ruckus is apparently that he's jealous of the people of Dream Land / Pop Star because they can feel positive emotions, whereas he can only feel negative emotions; cherubim are only capable of forming caliginous relationships (i.e. romantic relationships based on hate instead of love), so that fits the bill. They also like to hang out in black holes, as he does in ''Kirby 64'' (he spends most of the game covertly reigning over Ripple Star, the planet closest to the black hole, Dark Star, at the center of the Kirby "galaxy"), and when he morphs into 0^2, he's first briefly seen as a cutesy angel figure, complete with white feathery wings and a halo - a literal cherub. That may not actually be his true form, though, but a simpler depiction that's easier for Ribbon and Kirby to understand.

[[WMG: Zero Cannot truly be killed.]]
Zero already fully revived itself once, by becoming 02, and recent Kirby games have demonstrated a noticeable pattern. The final bosses always showcase similar abilities, each one adding more to the overall arsenal. From Marx, to Dark Mind, Drawcia, Magalor, and Sectonia, with the latter utilizing abilities from all prior bosses in her soul form. Magalor very clearly had Zero's eye in his core, and was dripping a dark substance. Dark mind was the mirror world counterpart to Zero. Every Soul boss can essentially be connected back to Zero.
WordOfGod States that Krako and Zero are Similar entities. Krako can revive himself from any cloud in existence. Dark matter is MadeOfEvil. Thus it is evident that every time someone with sufficient darkness in their heart comes to Pop Star, Zero Starts to reform within their very SOUL.
Star Dream is a very interesting example of this, as it's initial form looks like a mechanical 02, and it's fight starts off the exact same way. Hartman had a sample of inert mater that the star dream created a clone from, thus there's a clear vector for infection. Star dream is essentially a fusion of Zero and NOVA.

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[[WMG:Gooey is Zero.]]
* In ''[=KDL2=]'': Gooey appears for the first time in any Kirby game. We know he's a "good" blob of Dark Matter.
** My guess is that Zero had copied his consciousness, then placed it within a blob of DM, to possess Kirby the same way DM possessed other powerful Popstar inhabitants. Kirby was just too powerful, and (2nd) Zero became Gooey as a result.
* By ''[=KDL3=]'': Gooey helps Kirby defeat Zero, knowing that he would essentially kill himself, because he is Kirby's friend.
* But then, ''[=K64CS=]'': Zero-Two appears, without his positive emotions... because Kirby killed him the first time -- with Zero's own help!

That's why Gooey hasn't appeared in subsequent games.

[[WMG:Gooey is Zero-Two.]]
In the final battle of Crystal Shards, you see Zero-Two make a (for lack of a better word...) derpish face, and then the battle starts. That face looks an awful lot like the expression Gooey always had, and we never see him in the main game. So, something must of happened in between the two games. He, after some form of corruption, transformed into what we know as Zero Two. That is why he does not appear in 64. (The animal friends just didn't want to leave Pop Star). The face Zero-Two makes is him trying to feel positive emotions again and to say hello (or... goodbye) before his mind is lost and they fight.




[[WMG:02 is called that for a reason.]]
It isn't a zero, it's an O. O2 stands for oxygen, which is what Kirby sucks in whenever there are no enemies. Therefore, O2 is more related to Kirby than one might think.
* Well, it's more of around 78% nitrogen...







[[WMG: In future Kirby installments, Zero's invasion never happened.]]

In Kirby's Dreamland 3, the huge Dark Matter that Zero used to invade Pop Star broke the rings that circled it. After Zero is defeated, three rays of light (red, blue, and green) become the new rings for Pop Star. We've never seen these three rings ever again. Therefore, in every future Kirby game where Pop Star has two rings, Zero's invasion hasn't happened, yet.



[[WMG:Zero's motives aren't the same as Dark Matter's.]]
The Japanese player's guide for Kirby's Dream Land 2 states that the Dark Matter from that game targeted Pop Star because it grew jealous of Dream Land's lifestyle and it was lonely due to the fact no one wanted to be its friend yet it says nothing about Zero's motives and since Gooey is a form of Dark Matter it's possible that the Dark Matter that attacked Dreamland isn't under Zero's control.

[[WMG:Zero is Nightmare after having absorbed a large amount of Dark Matter.]]
Have you noticed that Nightmare's pair of shades have a single black-chromed lens which always prevents us from telling how many eyes his face has? What if there's only on eye under those shades and it's a red eye specifically the eye of Zero? What if Nightmare at some point absorbed a large amount of Dark Matter and became Zero?



[[WMG: Zero is a [[{{Webcomic/Homestuck}} cherub.]]]]
Zero's motive for raising a ruckus is apparently that he's jealous of the people of Dream Land / Pop Star because they can feel positive emotions, whereas he can only feel negative emotions; cherubim are only capable of forming caliginous relationships (i.e. romantic relationships based on hate instead of love), so that fits the bill. They also like to hang out in black holes, as he does in ''Kirby 64'' (he spends most of the game covertly reigning over Ripple Star, the planet closest to the black hole, Dark Star, at the center of the Kirby "galaxy"), and when he morphs into 0^2, he's first briefly seen as a cutesy angel figure, complete with white feathery wings and a halo - a literal cherub. That may not actually be his true form, though, but a simpler depiction that's easier for Ribbon and Kirby to understand.
7th Jul '16 4:45:29 PM Jatboy1000
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* Queen Sectonia: Entomophobia (fear of bugs), or more specifically Spheksophobia (fear of wasps)

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* Queen Sectonia: Entomophobia (fear of bugs), or more specifically Spheksophobia (fear of wasps)wasps), or [[spoiler: Anthophobia (Fear of Flowers)]]
7th Jul '16 5:52:04 AM Morgenthaler
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Meta Knight, Galacta Knight, and some other characters are all members of Kirby's species, the 'Star Warriors', and Meta Knight and Galacta Knight are fully grown. However, while Galacta Knight is an exceptional individual of the race (most are not very powerful) and Meta Knight is less powerful, but more skilled member. Like many fictional races, the Star Warriors have 'power levels', and Meta/Galacta are near the top. However, while Kirby is near in power to them, he is only a baby (explaining his simplistic personality), who will most likely remain as such for thousands of years, until he matures into a proper star warrior like Meta Knight. As he grows, his mental capacity and ability to speak will reach that of Meta Knight, eventually surpassing them both. However, since he already has comparable abilities to them, he will be much more powerful in his adult form than any other. This potential form is why Meta Knight watches over him; out of both fear and admiration, making sure he does not turn out to be evil. In a sense, he's TheObiWan to Kirby.

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Meta Knight, Galacta Knight, and some other characters are all members of Kirby's species, the 'Star Warriors', and Meta Knight and Galacta Knight are fully grown. However, while Galacta Knight is an exceptional individual of the race (most are not very powerful) and Meta Knight is less powerful, but more skilled member. Like many fictional races, the Star Warriors have 'power levels', and Meta/Galacta are near the top. However, while Kirby is near in power to them, he is only a baby (explaining his simplistic personality), who will most likely remain as such for thousands of years, until he matures into a proper star warrior like Meta Knight. As he grows, his mental capacity and ability to speak will reach that of Meta Knight, eventually surpassing them both. However, since he already has comparable abilities to them, he will be much more powerful in his adult form than any other. This potential form is why Meta Knight watches over him; out of both fear and admiration, making sure he does not turn out to be evil. In a sense, he's TheObiWan the mentor to Kirby.
6th Jul '16 3:40:10 AM Jatboy1000
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* Haltmann: Mechanophobia(fear of machines), or [[spoiler: Thanatophobia (fear of death)]]

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* Haltmann: Mechanophobia(fear Mechanophobia (fear of machines), Plutophobia (fear of wealth), or [[spoiler: Thanatophobia (fear of death)]]
6th Jul '16 3:38:47 AM Jatboy1000
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To add a few more to the original WMG:
* Queen Sectonia: Entomophobia (fear of bugs), or more specifically Spheksophobia (fear of wasps)
* Haltmann: Mechanophobia(fear of machines), or [[spoiler: Thanatophobia (fear of death)]]
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