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alt title(s): Predestination Paradox "Don't do anything that affects anything, unless it turns out you were supposed to do it, in which case, for the love of God, don't not do it!"
— Professor Farnsworth, Futurama, "Roswell That Ends Well"
"Life's so much funner with the paradox rules turned off!"
Through Applied Phlebotinum, Functional Magic, or some other means, our heroes travel back to the past. In the past, they wind up being responsible for the very events that underpin their own "present." This creates a chicken-and-egg scenario, in which the looping sequence of events has no clear beginning. The result of breaking the law zero of Time Travel: do not cause the event you went back to prevent.
This is also the basic premise of how Time Travel would work, according to Albert Einstein. Simply put, even if it were possible to travel back in time, you would not be able to change any events in the past, because they've already happened. No matter what your intentions, everything that you did would only fulfill the past.
This is sometimes referred to as a "time loop" paradox, particularly when a character, object, or piece of information was never originally created, but exists solely because of its own existence. Also known as a "bootstrap paradox," from the classic Heinlein short story, By His Bootstraps. It's also called an "ontological paradox" on that other Wiki . The classic hypothetical example is to jump into the future, steal some wondrous gadget, come back to the original time, grab the patent on that gadget and start mass-producing them immediately. Eventually, they become so ubiquitous or so common that you, ten, twenty years younger, show up and steal one. If it's the same one you stole before, it's an Object paradox. If it's not, then it's this.
Tricked Out Time is when you "change" the past on purpose to resemble this. Contrast Temporal Paradox. Compare You Cant Fight Fate, Wayback Trip, Timey Wimey Ball.
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Anime and Manga
- In Simoun, Dominura and Limone travel back in time using the Emerald Ri Maajon, purportedly to stop Simulacrum from using the Simoun. To avoid a Temporal Paradox that would prevent them from meeting, however, they instead teach the very Emerald Ri Maajon that got them there to the local inhabitants and show them how to use the Simoun that they have lying around... thereby ensuring that history unfolds exactly as they remember.
- In El Hazard The Magnificent World, the main character and company are sent to El Hazard by Ifurita. They meet her in El Hazard, but as an enemy who doesn't remember them. After a Heel Face Turn, Ifurita rescues everyone from a time-space distortion weapon, and realizes that she must be caught in it in order to go back in time in order to start everything.
- Kagome from Inuyasha could theoretically use future knowledge to inform her current adventures, but (as described in Just Eat Gilligan) she never does.
- Admittedly, as anything to do with her adventures would be considered myth by the rest of her time period, it would most likely be very hard to locate any reliable information other than something along the lines of "we win".
- Not to mention that her (bad) grades in history show she's too busy LIVING the Sengoku to STUDY it back home...
- Takahashi's Fire Tripper one-shot story (in some ways a dry run for Inuyasha), avoids the trope almost completely. One can trace the time lines of both characters, and they never "loop" themselves. There is one small loop though that leads to a Fridge Logic moment after the show is over. Where did the bell come from?
- Mendo from Urusei Yatsura traveled to the past to try to prevent himself from acquiring his fear of darkness and cramped spaces, but he got so angry at his younger self that he ended up attacking his younger self and thereby causing his own phobias.
- In Martian Successor Nadesico, Inez Fressange, whose first clear memory is being lost in a desert at age 8, discovers that she got there through time traveling from the future... which is now the present, as she's taken The Slow Path back. She meets her younger self just before the temporal disturbance that triggers the loop.
- In Tenchi Muyo in Love!, the criminal Kain attempts to go back in time to kill Tenchi's mother, Achika, so as to prevent Tenchi from ever having been born. Tenchi and company go back in time to stop him, and the climactic showdown forces Achika to utilize her power to the point that she shortens her own lifespan in order to protect her future son, thus causing her premature death that Tenchi had already experienced in the present/future.
- During the (rather long) Day 1 of the Mahora Fair sub-arc in Mahou Sensei Negima we get to see a Time Loop following Negi's use of it. Negi redoes the same day four times to make sure he has enough time to spend with every student. At various points Negi will run into students he hasn't run into yet because he's not that far in the loop. Setsuna, Asuna, Konoka, Yue, and Kotaro all go along with Negi at one time or another in this loop. Naturally when Time Travel isn't a neat parlor trick it stops being so stable... or loop like, and quite wibbly-wobbly.
- In Sailor Moon, Chibi-Usa is able to exist because she "stole" the silver crystal from Usagi in the future, returned to the past, and saved Usagi's life in the battle with the Death Phantom.
- In Tsubasa Reservoir Chronicle - avoiding spoilers and the five paragraphs of text that it would require to fully explain it- something the main characters do halfway through the story is directly responsible for the creation of the lead female's hometown as we first saw it.
- Dragon Ball Z - Trunks, a warrior from the future, visits the present with a time machine. When he returns he is killed by Cell, who steals his time machine and goes to the present so he can absorb the androids and become much more powerful. Trunks is forced to become much more powerful before he returns to the future; but when he does, this time he is able to kill Cell.
- According to the author, each timeline is like a dimension of its own and that's why traveling back in time would not change Future Trunk's own future (he knew that though). I guess this was an attempt to avoid complications but sadly it do still have some problems (of which I really don't want to get into.)
- Dragon Ball - Kami-Sama sends Kid Goku back in time to help his future instructor Roshi.
- In Natsu No Arashi!, Kaya's diary was lost sixty years ago. So, Arashi time-leaps back to 60 years ago, grabs the diary from before it was lost, and brings it to the present. Which, as Hajime immediately explains, is why it went missing in the first place.
- When the heroes of Rave Master reach what was once the Kingdom of Symphonia they discover, along with the grave of Resha Valentine, a skeleton wearing a necklace identical to one Elie was wearing, complete with engraving, that she had purchased from a store. Many volumes later, characters go back in time. Elie lost her necklace while in the past. Also, Sieg Hart sent Haru and Elie back to the present but is forced to remain in the past himself. This is when Sieg realizes that he was the skeleton they found back then. That knowledge in mind, he takes first opportunity to snag the necklace back and puts himself into position to be found fifty years later.
- In the Bamboo Rhapsody episode of Suzumiya Haruhi, Kyon travels back 3 years and ends up being the cause of Haruhi attending his highschool. When Kyon complains that this contradicts Mikuru's explanation of Time Travel, a sufficiently-advanced Yuki brushes it off with, "since there's no conclusion to the paradox theory, there's no way to prove there's no paradox." The Stable Time Loop gets tied in knots in The Disappearance of Suzumiya Haruhi, where we see that four copies of Kyon and three of Mikuru actually exist at the same time 3 years ago (and Kyon actually memorizes the words he heard from his future self, to later tell them to his past self). Mikuru is the embodiment of Stable Time Loops anyway; an entire book is dedicated to her walking around with Kyon triggering key events for her future. This phenomenon pisses off the anti-Mikuru, Sneering Bastard, to no end; he hates that You Can't Fight Fate.
- In Mx0, Taiga fails to get into Senaigi because when he is asked "what would you do if magic were real?" and he answers (for reasons he doesn't understand) "Conquer the world." This causes a girl to laugh at him. After steaming over it all summer he decides to confront the girl at Senaigi, where he's mistaken for a student and ushered into the school. Once the faculty find this out, they decide to give him a chance at staying at the school to save their own face. They then send him back in time (possessing his own body rather than existing twice at one time) and tell him to read the invisible words on the final page of his interview book and he'll automatically pass. However, the book is lost and then found by his older sister who rushes it to him, but not before meeting her idol. She asks him for an autograph, but has no paper, so he signs the seemingly blank last page with the words "Conquer the world!"
- During the Great War in Kyo Kara Maoh, Suzanna Julia doesn't fully accept that she's going to die and that her soul is to become the next Maoh. So, to convince her, what does Shinou do? SEND HER YUURI, OF COURSE. Yuuri's presence in the past makes Julia finally accept her fate, and in turn makes it possible for him to exist as Maoh in the future.
- Yuki Saiko of Silent Moebius has a mysteriously great deal on renting her apartment and cafe (in Tokyo, no less). Then she gets sent back in time to 1999 before the Project Gaia catastrophe and meets a young man named Tohru and the two fall in love. It turns out that he grows up to be her landlord. The TV series also hints that he has something to do with the Tyke Bomb project that produced her.
Comic Books
- Brilliantly subverted in the comic strip Calvin And Hobbes. It's 6:30 and Calvin doesn't want to do his homework, so he decides to Time Travel forward to 8:30. Then he can pick up the now-finished homework, bring it back to 6:30, and goof off the rest of the evening. But it doesn't work. There's no homework to pick up at 8:30 because Calvin never actually did the homework — he went time traveling instead.
- The best part came, of course, when they BOTH decided to go after 7:30 Calvin, because he was the one who was supposed to be doing it. That didn't work either.
- In The Invisibles, Gideon is introduced to The Invisible College by an elderly Edith Manning, who recognises him as a time traveller from her youth. After entering the college, he is taught to Time Travel, which results in him going back and meeting her as a young woman...
- The elves in Elf Quest are only on the planet because their alien ancestors ("the coneheads," later termed "the High Ones") were attracted by the human tales of elven beings. The coneheads shapeshifted into elven beings and turned their spacecraft into a palace, then, as they were landing, were flung back to the caveman days, where all their powers stopped working and they were nearly killed. The few survivors founded some cultures that became the elves that begat the stories that prompted the coneheads to attempt to land in the first place.
- Later on, the magic-user Rayek attempts to stop the event that flung the High Ones into the past. It's pointed out that those who were born as a result of this event would cease to exist should he succeed, but he doesn't care (except, it seems, for the few he knows personally). He's talked out of it by the three people most dear to him, who choose to suffer the same fate as the planet; as Rayek can't bring himself to erase them, he stands aside and lets the event happen as it already has.
- In the Marvel Universe Cable was infected by a techno-organic virus by Apocalypse, who, it is revealed later, got the virus in the past from Cable.
- In the Elseworlds book Superman: Red Son, it's revealed that Superman was sent back in time as a baby, because Lex Luthor was the ancestor of Jor-L, and therefore Krypton is actually Earth in future. That might explain why the Red Son-verse doesn't have Kryptonite.
- Ironic in that Jor-L sends his son in the past, as opposed to another planet, because he dislikes how placid humanity as become. Humans think they've learned all there is to learn and now just "have nothing left to do but wait and die". Jor-L hopes that sending his son in the past will change that. However, the antagonism between Superman and Lex Luthor is what inspires Luthor to engineer Humanity's Golden Age, Jor-L hopes to avert.
- In one story, Superman is shown a vision of the future, and sees a superhero codenamed Sirocco (which means The Desert Wind in Persian). Later, when Superman visits Iran and befriends Sirocco's present self, he accidentally calls him by that name. The man says the name is cool and asks Supes if he can use it for his codename.
- The final pages of Ultimate Fantastic Four #53 show that Reed sends his Cosmic Cube back in time 30,000 years to the planet Acheron, where Thanos finds it, which precipitated his rise; when he lost it, he influenced Reed to create it.
- In Tales From the Bully Pulpit, Teddy Roosevelt gets help from the "Teddy of thirty minutes from now" (a reference to the Bill and Ted example below). At the end of the story, the main characters remember to go back and fulfill the time loop before going off on their adventures.
- In Amazing Spider Man Annual #20, Arno Stark, the Iron Man of 2020, has developed a time machine that received military backing by an atomic bomb project that he is also developing. An anti-war terrorist locks up Iron Man's wife and son in the laboratory which contains the bomb, but is killed by Arno soon afterward. To defuse the bomb, Arno uses his time machine to go back to the 1980s to get the younger terrorist's retina patterns. In doing so, though, Iron Man becomes involved in a fight with Spider-Man which results in the child becoming scarred — giving him the motivation against Iron Man in the first place.
- It gets worse... Not only did Arno not get the retina scan he needed (the scanner was destroyed in the fight), he is suddenly returned to the future, only to discover that the bomb had detonated prematurely and destroyed his family.
- Alan Moore's Supreme has two stable time loops, one forming the main plot of the initial plot arc, and a second in a single issue as a comic parody of the trope. It's strongly implied that the mysterious "Supremium" substance that both originally gave Supreme his powers and acts as his "Kryptonite" is what all time-looped matter eventually becomes.
- Larry Hama's Nth Man: The Ultimate Ninja is entirely encircled by a time loop. Throughout the series, it is revealed that John Doe and Alfie O'Megan were left as infants at an orphanage by a screaming, burning woman. In the final issue, they realize they're part of a never-ending time loop, and must go back in time to avoid a paradox. As the two step through the time portal, they're followed by John's girlfriend. However, because she wasn't part of the loop, she begins to self-immolate on arrival. The orphanage director opens the door just in time to receive two infants from a screaming, burning woman...
- 52 has two of them in the Booster Gold plot line. One of them has Booster fake his death and then travel back in time a few weeks so he can become Supernova and drive Booster to the actions which lead him into the Loop. The other has Booster send Mister Mind back through time after forcing him back into his larval form, to the point where he was discovered by Doctor Sivana who imprisoned him until he was forced to infect Skeets, starting the loop over. Both were created due to the actions of Rip Hunter.
- Rip Hunter himself is also a stable time loop: he reveals that he's Booster Gold's son, who only will come into being because Rip Hunter drafts Booster Gold into his current job as secret protector of the timeline
- Best one ever: The whole reason for Imperiex's existence During Our Worlds At War is that the multiverse is flawed, so he seeks to destroy everything to re-create it. As a force of nature, he can't be destroyed: to wit, when he seems defeated, his energy was merely absorbed by Brainiac, who then starts a plan to assimilate the universe with that power. Superman has a huge problem: If he destroys Brainiac, Imperiex gets free and can "hollow" the multiverse. But if he leaves Brainiac be, the multiverse will be assimilated. What does Superman do? He arranges for a Time portal to be opened and pushes Brainiac/Imperiex (who are the size of a PLANET) into it, taking them to... a milisecond after the Big Bang. Their essences get in the way of nature, forming our flawed multiverse instead of the "perfect" one that should have been, but making sure that neither is a problem from there on out in the present.
Film
- Triangle has a very convoluted one. Jess comes to the harbor looking dazed and eventually ended up being on a mysterious boat and threw a masked killer overboard. She realizes she's in a Groundhog Day Loop by seeing herself boarding the mysterious boat and tries to break the chain by killing herself becoming the masked killer and getting thrown overboard. She drifted back to the shore where she was able to hitchhike back home seeing herself with her son. She killed her other self and wanted to dispose of the body which resulted in a car accident killing her son. She gets on a taxi to go to the harbor and the trauma seems to have caused amnesia. She comes to the harbor looking dazed and eventually ended up being on the mysterious boat, etc. etc. etc.
- Bill And Teds Excellent Adventure: The titular characters save themselves four times using this concept. We can only assume they got it right all four times, because it works all four times. In general, the film appears to assert that you can't actually change a timeline.
- Also, they hear their future selves call Rufus "Rufus", which is why they use that name for him later when they become the future selves. He never actually tells them his name.
- The Final Countdown features another one. The USS Nimitz goes back in time from the early 1980s to just before Pearl Harbor. During their trip, one of their crew is left on an island and ends up staying there. Forty years later, he's running a defense company and helped design the carrier in the first place...and was the man who had sent Martin Sheen's character, an employee of his company, to be onboard the Nimitz at that time. This not only meant that person was present for the events but sending him to the Nimitz delayed her departure, which could have been what put her in the right place at the right time to be sent back in time.
- Donnie Darko: The entire movie takes place in an unstable time loop, and the whole plot centers on trying to close it. When Donnie transports himself and the jet engine that killed him back in time, it closes the loop and negates everything that happens in the movie. However, this is never explicitly stated, resulting in a certain amount of Mind Screw.
- In Grizzy Mountain, two kids go back in time to 1871. They're the ones who are responsible for keeping Grizzly Mountain from being blown up, and allowing the Natives to keep their land.
- In The Terminator, the world-ruling SkyNet computer attempts to defeat the human resistance by sending a Terminator android back in time to kill the mother of resistance leader John Connor before he was born; not only does the Terminator fail, it turns out that if SkyNet had not made the attempt, Sarah Connor would not have met John's father and John would not have existed.
- In addition, the sequel (and a deleted scene from the first film) reveals that the technology used to create SkyNet was developed by researchers studying the remains of the Terminator android. Thus, the SkyNet technology was never invented by anyone, but came into existence within the time loop.
- In theoretical physics, the above is known as a 'Picasso Paradox': if Picasso somehow went back in time and gave his younger self reproductions of his paintings, are Picasso's paintings then the result of the reproductions, or are the reproductions the result of the original paintings?
- This gets played with in one of the Hitchhikers Guide novels: A famous poet had very few of his works survive in any sort of readable fashion, since he wrote them using various natural implements on leaves. Some suits go back in time and convince him to write them properly (pen/paper) and wind up re-selling the poems. The issue here is that his poems were largely about how depressed he was when his girlfriend left him, and with the money and licensing deal that doesn't happen so the execs have to go back in time again get the original leaf copies and have him recopy those without him ever knowing why he would want to write them. But this sort of thing happens all the time and its better just not to worry about it.
- Then in the sequel to that, the Terminatrix reprograms SkyNet tech to awaken it, thus resulting in the Machine Rebellion, which ultimately leads to that same SkyNet sending back the Terminatrix to awaken itself...
- Also, in the first film Kyle tells Sarah a message John gave him to memorize. In the second film we see that Sarah has given the message to John, so he can give it to Reese. So who wrote the thing?
- A very, very detailed analysis of the time loops in the Terminator series is available here
. That site makes the interesting argument that what we see probably is not the first version of the loop; information such as Kyle's message was initially generated in an earlier cycle, and mutated with iteration until the versions converged, and we're seeing the final 'stable' cycle.
- Ironically, the iterations probably could not conceivably converge like that, but the stable state would be reached when reaching a version that no longer involved any time travel or changing of the past, ending the loop.
- The premise of Twelve Monkeys is that Time Travel cannot alter history in any way — whatever you go back and do in the past, you've always gone back and done in the past. Cole remembers that as a kid, he saw his own death, which later happens just as he recalled it. The researcher (and the other time travelers) went back from 2035 to 1996 for one reason only — to gather information about the original virus (which had greatly mutated by their own time) of The Plague that had decimated humanity in 1996, so that a cure could be developed in 2035. The near-destruction of humanity in 1996 will always happen; the 'happy ending' is that humanity gains the chance to recover four decades later.
- Star Trek IV The Voyage Home does this with the invention of transparent aluminum.
Mc Coy: You know, if we give him the formula, we'll be altering the future. Scotty: Why? how do you know he didn't invent the thing!
- In Portrait Of Jennie, a black-and-white film which may have partially inspired ''Somewhere in Time'', the protagonist meets a little girl in very old-fashioned clothing who tells him to wait for her to grow up; he realizes that he's seen her before in the titular portrait in the art museum, and after meeting her again (and falling in love) learns that she actually committed suicide years ago while waiting for someone.
- According to Miller in Repo Man, all of human history is a Stable Time Loop. Of course, he doesn't seem the most reliable source on these things, although the rather drug-fueled ending makes it seem a bit more likely.
- In Somewhere In Time, there is a watch that an old lady gives to Richard Collier. Later on, Richard Collier goes into the past and gives the pocket watch to the much younger lady, who keeps it until the present. Also, Richard Collier's signature from the past in the book in the present - indicating that his trip into the past will be successful.
- In Back To The Future, Marty inspires Chuck Berry to write Johnny B. Goode by performing it in the past, giving him the ability to perform that song in the first place.
- See also Marty's accidental comment that Goldie will run for Mayor in 1985, inspiring the 1955 Goldie to (duh) run for Mayor.
- The mechanics of BTTF time travel suggest that they would've happened anyway; Marty just gave them an extra push.
- Back To The Future specifically does NOT have a stable time loop. In the first one, Marty goes back and makes his parents cool and in the second one, Biff takes over the whole town.
- Back To The Future actually is in the interesting position of showing us a stable time loop in its "bootstrapping" phase. Marty goes back to the past, changes history, comes back to the future that is not sufficiently altered to prevent his new self from going back to the past and changing history. The later movies show that Marty2 followed much the same series of events as Marty1 in the past. Presumably with every iteration, the loop would become more stable and fixed.
- In Time Rider, the protagonist from the present unwittingly goes back to the wild west and meets an attractive young woman. After getting to know her (at her insistence), she asks about a necklace, which he claims his grandmother gave him. Through the course of the film, he gradually realizes that no, these aren't a bunch of really intense historical re-enactors, while she comes to understand that he really is from the future. Just before he returns to the present, she snatches the necklace and holds it up, wordlessly and clearly explaining why she did it and who she will become. Squick
- In Split Infinity, A.J. goes back back in time (via Mental Time Travel) to 1929. It turns out that she was responsible for saving the house and the barn from the stock market crash.
- The original Planet Of The Apes 5-film series. You can start at any of the films, and follow them around in numerical order to form the time loop (each film follows the previous one, the first film follows the fifth).
- Given that the fifth film ends with the apes and humans living together in peace, the loop looks as if it has been broken (if you ignore the Made For TV series).
- This can be placed under either Literature or Film, but both Michael Chrichton's Timeline and The Film Of The Book include this trope. In the beginning of the story, the archeologists discover a sarcophagus of a one-eared man buried with his wife, seeming, for all intents and purposes, to be a knight. When the characters go back in time, one of them ends up falling in love, getting an ear cut off, and winds up staying in the past, thereby becoming the man in the sarcophagus.
- The same could be said of the glasses found during the excavation. The glasses weren't left behind in the past, they were left in an alternate universe. (and if they had the "foresight" to leave the glasses in place in the alternate universe so they could find them in the future of the normal universe just because they knew to leave them in place in the alternate universe past...).
- La Jetée has two loops in it. The first one starts when the protagonist witnesses a murder as a child and the image of a young lady sceaming in horror is burned into his memory. This memory is what allows him to travel back in time from the post-apoctalyptic future, and what causes him to try to escape his superiors and start a new life in the past. He is shot by his masters while in the past, with his younger self watching, completing the loop. The second loop occurs when the man travels from the ruins of post-WWIII Paris into a future where civilization has returned to its peak, gathers supplies, and goes back to his own time so the supplies can be used to rebuild society and allow that utopian future to occur.
Literature
- This editor remembers a short sci-fi story where a king who is is always coming up with crazy schemes to improve his small country discovers a time traveler is helping his advisers prevent the negative impact of his schemes. He captures the time traveler and forces him to take them both into the future so he can see the results of his schemes. They arrive in ten years in the future where the country is prosperous beyond his wildest dreams, and he asks a passerby "what was the big change that brought about this golden age?" He answers "Oh, it all turned around when the crazy king disappeared ten years ago and the advisers started ruling the nation". As the king wonders why he disappeared a decade ago, the time traveler shuts the door to his time machine, leaving the king in the future.
- In Douglas Adams' Life, the Universe and Everything, the poet Lallafa was known for writing beautiful poetry on habra leaves in the middle of a rainforest... So some time travelers picked him up from the rainforest and put him on the talk show circuit in the future. Of course, he had to write the poems at some point, so they just sent him back to the forest with a book of his poetry and a bunch of habra leaves...
- Of course the whole thing was an advertising ploy by the manufacturers of correction fluid.
- Far from the only Stable Time Loop in the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy series. Arthur, of course, met with Agrajag before one of the many deaths of his previous forms had ever occurred, and so he knows that he's going to be able to escape when Agrajag tries to kill him anyway. Also, the entire arc with the Golgafrinchams.
- Also, as explained by Ford Prefect, every form of time travel in that universe is a Stable Time Loop.
- In addition, Zaphod Beeblebrox is his own ancestor and descendant.
- That series of books is definitely Timey Wimey Ball. People are trying to build an ion factory. They don't finish it in time. so they keep pushing the construction start date back farther into the past, until the cathedral that was originally in the spot never got built in the first place. It then states that photographs of the cathedral suddenly became immensely valuable. Huh? Time travel, like everything else in those books, runs on Rule Of Funny.
- What's more, in the first book, it's suggested that the origin of life was caused by the Infinite Improbability Drive — which was, of course, later built by living creatures.
- In the story The Red Queen's Race by Isaac Asimov, an attempt to change history by sending modern scientific knowledge back to the ancient Greeks is subverted when the person translating the information finds out about the plan. The translator creates a Stable Time Loop by censoring the translation to include only odd bits of surprisingly advanced knowledge that actually turned up in the ancient world. Also, it's decided that doing this was necessary for history to happen as it already did.
- In Jack Chalker's Downtiming The Night Side, a modern-day security officer is drawn into a time-loop by an incident instigated by himself, a time-travelling, gender-swapped version of himself, and their estranged children, none of whom would exist had he not been pulled into the time loop in the first place.
- Not to mention they go back and close down each time loop so that they never actually happened, leaving the protagonist *very* confused as to how he/she still exists. The person she's with tells her basically to shut up and deal with it.
- The entire plot of Artemis Fowl: The Time Paradox. A picture of Artemis chasing himself through the timestream is on the cover.
- Lester Del Rey's 1951 short story "...And It Comes Out Here" features a time machine that's created by a time loop.
- In The Last Chronicles Of Thomas Covenant Linden travels to the past to get the Staff of Law, since it is nowhere to be found in the present, since she picked it up in the past... And because she picked it up in the past it didn't exist during the intervening years, meaning that Lord Foul and his allies grew stronger because its power wasn't opposing them for all that time.
- In the Thursday Next Novel The Eyre Affair, Thursday meets herself, and receives the news that the Big Bad is alive, and is told to travel to Swindon. As a result of the travel, she ends up caught in an patch of Bad Time, and arrives to deliver the message.
- Later in the series, it's revealed that the various methods of time travel work on the assumption that someone will invent time travel, and deliver that technology to their current time. This starts causing trouble when people find that time travel won't be invented.
- Also, Thursday's father gives her his chronometer. He got it years ago from her, after she got it from him.
- A debate runs throughout the book about who really wrote Shakespeare's plays. At the end of the book, Thursday's dad, a time traveler, reveals that no one wrote the plays; when he went back in time to the corresponding period, the plays weren't around. So, he gave them to Shakespeare to produce. Thursday's dad tells her not to worry about where the plays actually came from, as these things happen often.
- The Robert L. Forward novel Timemaster demonstrates the use of a Stable Time Loop generated by a wormhole (technically, a "closed timelike curve") as an offensive weapon.
- Harry Harrison dumps The Stainless Steel Rat into Stable Time Loops so often that Jim treats it as a normal occurrence.
- Another Harry Harrison book, The Technicolor Time Machine, hinges on several Stable Time Loops. The premise is that a movie studio is about to go bankrupt, and so in desperation they try funding a seemingly crackpot physicist who's working on a time machine in exchange for the use of the completed model. It works, of course, so they take a camera crew back in time to film a historical about how the Vikings discovered America - they don't have to pay for sets or actors this way, and they can get the whole film done in a couple of days so they'll be able to show the bank that they have an asset they can monetize when the next loan payment becomes due. When they find the Viking that history says is the discoverer, however, he seems completely uninterested in attempting the journey... until they nudge him with a little bribery and technical assistance. A few other Self-Fulfilling Prophecies occur later on, including a note that nobody wrote and a vicious practical joke one of the characters plays on himself in revenge for that same vicious practical joke he played on himself 'earlier.'
- The Robert A Heinlein short story "'—All You Zombies—'" uses the same device. The protagonist tells a bartender a story in which he introduces his mother, actually himself before a sex change, to his father, actually himself after the sex change. He is also the bartender.
- In The Door Into Summer, the protagonist travels into the future by cold sleep and sees machines he's almost sure he invented. So on that hunch finds a time-machine that can send him back. He makes some arrangements, returns to the future by cold sleep and lives happily ever after knowing the people who tried to ruin his life got their just deserts.
- James Hogan uses a Stable Time Loop approximately 50,000 years long in the third book in the Giants series.
- A short story by Anne Lear, The Adventure of the Global Traveller, has Sherlock Holmes' nemesis Moriarty steal the Time Machine (from H.G. Wells' story), only to have it break down (and completely disintegrate) on stage at the Globe during the first performance of Macbeth. Moriarty recites the Third Murderer's lines as he recalls them from reading the play; afterward, Shakespeare is delighted with the new lines and writes them into the script. Like Ashbless' poetry below - no one ever wrote the lines, the first time they were spoken it was from memory...
- Time Travel in the Dragonriders Of Pern books by Anne McCaffrey operates on this principle. All Time Travel is undertaken knowing this in advance ("since I've already done it, I might as well go do it..."), and no one ever calls the universe's bluff.
- Not always. Some of it's of the form "I think I'm the one who did it, so I'd better go do it..."
- Behold the Man by Michael Moorcock: Karl Glogauer tracks down the real Jesus, son of Mary, and finds that he's an idiot; so he...
- The Time Traveler's Wife by Audrey Niffenegger is full of Stable Time Loops. For example, on one of Henry's visits to his wife-to-be Clare in the past, he dictates to her a list of dates in her childhood when they're going to meet. They meet on those dates only because she knows he's going to appear — there are some other times when he appears, but since those dates aren't on the list, she doesn't know he's there. When they meet as adults in real time, she gives the list back to him so he can memorise it. Where did it come from in the first place? Seemingly nowhere. Henry also taught his younger self a number of skills he knew he would need, such as how to pick locks. His theory is that to prevent Temporal Paradox, he has free will while he's living in normal time but not while he's time traveling.
- One time loop is Henry and Clare's marriage. From Clare's perspective, she meets Henry when he travels back in time to her childhood, lands in her backyard, and introduces himself as her future husband. From Henry's perspective, he meets Clare when he runs into her in a college library and she tells him that she's known future-him for most of her life and that they're going to get married. So when did they meet for the first time?
- He first met her at the college library, and she first met him in the Meadow. Because of Time Travel, they both met a version of the other who was ignorant of their future relationship/marriage.
- In H. Beam Piper's short story Flight from Tomorrow, a tyrant in the very far future forces a scientist to create a time machine for him as the ultimate escape route, and he uses it to flee into the past from a rebellion at the beginning of the story. He is not expecting a Stable Time Loop - quite the contrary - but the scientist not only left out some important information but sabotaged the machine, so that he went back not to the time he had researched, but to the mid-twentieth century. The tyrant finds that he is apparently a plague-carrier, and is hunted down and killed. The scientist in his own time explains to the rebels that they cannot pursue the tyrant into the past, or they will meet the same fate; all their people are not only immune to many diseases our time hasn't adapted to, but carry lethal (to us) doses of radiation as well. The scientist's audience realizes that a mysterious artifact from the distant past, a valley filled in with concrete, must be where the tyrant's body was covered over to prevent further deaths.
- In The Anubis Gates by Tim Powers, the protagonist, Brendan Doyle, becomes the victim of Grand Theft Me in the 1800s and realizes that he is destined to be the poet, William Ashbless, whom he was researching in the present day. Partway through the book, he panics on realizing nobody ever wrote Ashbless's poetry — he copied it from memory earlier — but then shrugs it off, deciding that as long as it was there, nobody would be bothered.
- The Discworld novel The Last Continent is essentially a single, but quite complex, Stable Time Loop, in which the problem Rincewind has to solve is caused by the wizards accidentally going back in time while looking for him. It also includes Ridcully dismissing Ponder Stibbons' worries about the Butterfly Of Doom (or Ant Of Doom in Ponder's example) by concluding that history depends on you treading on the ants you've already trodden on.
- Specifically, Ridcully's argument relies on the old "you can't step on an ant if you don't exist." His logic is that if they're in the past NOW, then they've already been there thousands of years ago, when it was now. Therefore, anything they do, they've already done (because it's the past and the past has already happened), and it's vitally important that they do whatever they do, because if they didn't, they wouldn't have done it and they'd have done the different thing instead.
- Pratchett also uses this in Pyramids, where a major character, Dios, through a method of semi-immortality, has been trapped in an 8000 year loop for an unknown number of go-rounds.
- Night Watch also features a Stable Time Loop, though Vimes is warned in the beginning that it doesn't have to be.
- Night Watch is more an example of Ontological Inertia than Stable Time Loop - Vimes is told that there was a real Sergeant Keel the first time around, and while the general outcome is the same, several of the specific events are different.
- This could be considered a subversion. It looks like a Stable Time Loop at first, but then some details end up being changed. Then, since the outcome is more or less the same, Vimes returns to a seemingly unchanged present. Thud! implies that Colon remembers the changed version of the past, though. You probably shouldn't think about it too much.
- On a smaller scale, minor recurring character Mrs. Cake is a psychic who is known to answer peoples' questions before they ask them; she then insists they ask, to stabilize the time loop, or she'll get a migraine.
- In Eric, Rincewind travels back in time to before life existed on the Discworld, and drops a partially-eaten sandwich in a tidepool. The microorganisms in the tidepool become the ancestors of all life on the Discworld, including Rincewind (but not including the sandwich ingredients, because the sandwich didn't originate from Discworld; it was given to Rincewind by the creator of the universe).
- Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban. Harry is saved by a mysterious figure who he thinks is his father. After he travels back, he eventually finds himself in the same place and waits for his father to show up... and then realizes HE was the mysterious figure, and saves himself. Also, as Harry, Ron, and Hermione first head out to adventure, they hear noises that turn out to be Harry and Hermione as they complete adventure!part I.
- In The Green Futures of Tycho by William Sleator, the protagonist learns to use his time machine from his future self, who only knows how to use the machine because he learned it from himself.
- Possibly subverted in the Star Trek Deep Space Nine Expanded Universe trilogy Millennium, which involves a convoluted Quasi-Stable Time Loop in which the actions of a future Picard, Vash, and Nog help cause the creation of their alternate future, followed by the retroactive destruction of that same future. During the story both Dax and Miles O'Brien continually insist on maintaining a Stable Time Loop, but by the end it seems their actions can only succeed because of three people who shouldn't exist.
- In the Warhammer 40000 novel Desert Raiders, a Tallarn regiment is dispatched to an uninhabited planet to investigate a mysterious psychic distress call. After landing on the planet, the regiment encounters a Tyranid splinter group and is forced into a desperate last stand. One of the psykers traveling with the regiment dispatches a warning signal in their final moments — the same signal the regiment had been sent to investigate in the first place. The implication is that, in traveling through the Warp, they had gone back in time before reaching their destination; indeed, the Warp in the 40K 'verse is known to do some strange things to the flow of time...
- In Animorphs, In the Time of Dinosaurs, the Animorphs go back in time to the Cretaceous, fight the antlike alien Nesk for a nuke to explode (so that they can undo the time travel) and the Nesk divert a comet to the only home of the Mercora (the friendly aliens). The Mercora wanted the nuke so that they can explode and stop the comet from hitting, but Tobias and Ax rig the nuke not to explode, as the comet was the one that ended the dinosaurs (opening the way for humans to evolve). The force of the comet ends up sending the Animorphs back home.
- Dragonlance Legends reveals that humans, elves, and ogres can time-travel only to observe. This is how it's supposed to work. Throw in the unnatural races, which were not created at the beginning of time, like dwarves, gnomes, and kender, and you have problems. So, Raistlin would be caught in a stable time loop which essentially just causes him to kill himself over and over again every 400-odd years...if it weren't for Tas and his powers of TemporalParadox.
- Played with in Kurt Vonnegut's Slaughterhouse Five where the character lives in a personal unending non-chronological time loop where he lives out every moment of his life repeatedly, with all of his own memories, after becoming Unstuck In Time. In the novel he is suggested to have lived out all these moments more than once and always does the same things every time making it a stable time loop of sorts... Not really a spoiler, but the novel is best experienced if you have to figure out for yourself that the whole meaning to the plot is the pointlessness of immortality and is a suggestion by the author to live your own life to its fullest and to make unexpected choices every so often so that you don't feel like you're living through the same experiences all over again...
- The Man Who Folded Himself: A young man inherits a belt from his uncle that allows him to travel to any time in the past or future. In doing so, he meets multiple alternate versions of himself, eventually reaching the point of Ultimate Narcissm, in two extremes. He winds up in sexual relationships with his multiple selves. The second extreme is where things get twisted and yet allows the Stable Time Loop. He gets bored with all of his alternate selves, and humanity as a whole, and decides to try to go back far enough in time to meet an alternate self so far from his own reality they are unrecognizable except by the belt they wear. The one he finds, exactly 1000 years before his date of birth, is a female version of himself. This then begins yet another sexual relationship, resulting in a child. Then comes confusion as the story slips between the two perspectives of the "parents," each wanted a child of the same gender as themselves. So they go into the future, get technology to make sure their child is the "correct" gender, and somehow, even though it is implied that only one child is born, both get their wish and bring their child to the future. They then take the role of Aunt/Uncle to that child, and the cycle begins anew. Gives a whole new meaning to the song, "I'm My Own Grandpa."......and father, and great-grandfather......... The book contains only one character, everybody he meets is a past, future, or alternate-reality version of himself.
- One book continutity of Red Dwarf or the other puts Lister as the creator of the universe, having gone back to that point in time to see what happened.
Live Action TV
- The Adventures Of Brisco County Jr has the titular character go back in time to meet himself and take a necessary Mc Guffin out of his own hands. Which is exactly what happened a few episodes ago.
- Babylon 5 has two of these, related to the same incident. The two-part episode "War Without End" in the third season has the protagonists cause the mysterious time incident on Babylon 4 that happened in the first season episode "Babylon Squared"... at the conclusion of which, an important character travels back even farther in time to become the cause of one of the show's central prophecies.
- Not to mention becoming the ancestor of Delenn, one of the show's main characters, whose own decision at the start of the war, started the chain of events that led to Sinclair's time travel.
- In the first season of the new series of Doctor Who, The Doctor and Rose are followed everywhere by the words "Bad Wolf" - in the final episode, Rose saves The Doctor's life and uses the time-bending power of the TARDIS to deposit the words in the past, in order to inspire her to go forward into the future and save The Doctor's life, which ends in her putting the words into the past, etc., etc. This also crops up a few times in the second and third seasons (since the words were placed all over time and space, there's no reason for them to stop showing up just because they're not needed anymore), and more times than you can shake a TARDIS key at in the Ten/Rose Expanded Universe novel The Stone Rose. The phrase also turns at the cliffhanger of the fourth season episode "Turn Left" (with all written words, from the Doctor's point of view being replaced with "Bad Wolf" — even the TARDIS' signage), in which it heralds Davros' gambit to steal a number of planets in a plan that will either end up in the Daleks' domination of the universe or by the universe's destruction
- The episode "Blink" also repeatedly uses it. At one point, the Doctor pre-records his half of a conversation with another character; when the other character has the conversation, it's written down, and the Doctor works off it to record his half. Also, his half is recorded as an easter egg on 17 specific DVDs; when the Doctor tells a video executive which discs to put the recording on, he's working from a list someone in the future made of DVDs that have the video on them.
- Also used "for cheap gags" (hey, the Doctor said it, not me) in "Smith and Jones"; when Martha first meets the Doctor, he stops in front of her on the street, takes off his tie, and walks off. When they meet at the hospital again, the Doctor can't ever recall meeting her. At the end of the episode, he goes back in time and takes his tie off in front of Martha in order to prove that the TARDIS is a time machine.
- Perhaps the most egregious is the possibly non-canonical special Time Crash, where the Fifth Doctor is brought forward in time and meets the Tenth. A problem develops which the Tenth Doctor instantly solves, working from his memory of when he was the Fifth Doctor in this very situation, watching his future self solve it.
- This pretty much conflicts with previous multi-Doctor episodes of the original series, where none of his incarnations show any knowledge of the events. Of course, the Time Lords were involved in some way for all of them and may have erased his past incarnations' memories.
- In the novel Cold Fusion, the Fifth Doctor helpfully lists the reasons future incarntations don't remember the events of multi-Doctor stories from the perspective of their past incarnations, noting that none of them apply to the current teamup with the Seventh Doctor.
- In the Third Doctor serial "Day of the Daleks", humans from the future attempt to blow up UNIT headquarters to prevent someone from bombing a ministerial-level conference to be held there, starting World War III and allowing the Daleks to invade. Predictably, their bomb is the bomb they are trying to prevent.
- The Fifth Doctor story "Earthshock" also is an example A ship is sent back in time and causes the extinction of the dinosaurs, the dominance of Homo sapiens and the creation of the ship. It also kills Adric.. So, really a win-win situation.
- There's also "City of Death", in which an alien whose mind was split several ways across time after his space-ship landed on Earth and exploded. His past selves hid various treasures to be found by his future selves (including multiple copies of The Mona Lisa!), which were to be sold off and used to get the materials to create a time machine so he could go back and prevent the explosion - something The Doctor might have helped with had he not discovered that the same explosion was the "lightning bolt" that stirred up the primordial soup to begin creating life on Earth...
- The short story collection Short Trips: Time Signature follows a single peice of Vortex-threatening music through the Doctor's life. Since the book is in extreme Anachronic Order, following neither the music nor the Doctor linearly, it takes a bit of working out, but essentially the music was sent to the planet where the Doctor first heard it by someone who'd heard it from the Doctor...
- In the Time Travel episode of Ghostwriter, the kids in 1928 solve their case by sending Ghostwriter to 1993 to find out how the case was solved, then bring the info back and use it to solve the case. As the kids in 1993 are reading old 1928 newspapers about the case, the pages start to turn blank — if they don't send the info back, the case will never be solved and thus the newspaper will never have it.
- Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles - Fischer only survived Judgement Day and taught the machines the things he did because he was in prison - thrown there due to his future self planting a backdoor into military computer systems, having logged in, of course, with his own retinal scan.
- Heroes: Anything to do with Hiro's adventures with Kensei.
- Near-miss at the end of the second season when Peter Petrelli almost becomes responsible for the end-of-the-world timeline he visited earlier, through his efforts to prevent it...but drops the Idiot Ball after holding tight all season, and destroys the virus.
- Referenced several times in Star Trek Deep Space Nine episode "Trials and Tribble-ations". The Temporal Investigations agents specifically loathe Stable Time Loops. Also, Bashir is hit upon by a woman who has the same name as his great-grandmother. After commenting on the fact that nobody knew his great-grandfather, he attempts to argue to O'Brien that he has to go sleep with her in order to ensure his own existence. O'Brien dismisses the notion, causing Bashir to declare that he can't wait to see the look on O'Brien's face when he finds out Bashir never existed.
- Also happens in Past Tense where Sisko, Bashir and Dax are sent back into Earth's past and Sisko has to stand in for a civil rights leader (who died for the cause) in order to allow the Federation to exist. It is later noted how similar Sisko looks to the historical figure.
- And don't forget that Quark and co. were the ones who crashed at Roswell.
- In the premiere episode of Primeval, Nick Cutter discovers a human camp (and human bones) in the Permian, as well as a camera with a picture proving his vanished wife had been there. In the first season finale, having been reunited with his wife, they travel back to the Permian where Helen convinces him to take her picture...which he suddenly realizes is the picture he'd discovered previously, and that the camp they just set up is the one he'd discovered originally. An actual change does happen to the past, however, which confuses things.
- In the Stargate SG-1 episode '1969,' the team travels back to the title year and has to figure out how to get home, meeting a young General (then Lieutenant) Hammond, two hippies, and a young Catherine Langford. General Hammond sends a note back with them that Captain Carter is not allowed to read until after they go through the gate. The note contains cryptic instructions as to how to get home, as well as instructions from General Hammond to his younger self to help the visitors (that from his POV writing the note he has already helped). It is later revealed that General Hammond has been waiting for years for the sign that it is time to send the note (evidenced by a large cut on Captain Carter's hand).
- Star Trek Voyager. In "Time and Again" Voyager witnesses the destruction of a civlisation. When Janeway and Paris are accidentally sent back in time a few days before the incident, it turns out that the crew's attempt to rescue them is what triggers the disaster. Fortunately Janeway stops the attempt and the timeline returns to normal.
- The Red Dwarf episode "Ouroboros" reveals that Lister is his own father. He left his baby self three million years in the past so that the resulting time loop would stop the human race ever truly becoming extinct.
- In the fifth season of Lost, John Locke may have just created one of his own: while time travelling to 1954, he tells Richard Alpert (immortal spokesman of the Others) his exact birthday, and encourages him to consider young John for a leadership role. Considering his current relationship with the Others, he may have pretty much written his own destiny.
- An even bigger one occurs in "He's Our You" and "Whatever Happened, Happened": Ben torments and manipulates Sayid and others in the future. Sayid then travels back in time and shoots 12 year-old Ben, attempting to prevent Ben's later misdeeds. Kate, Sawyer, and Juliet, in order to save Ben, take him to the Others. This leads to Ben becoming the ruthless individual who later torments them, and who causes their time travel.
- According to Daniel Faraday, this is how time travel in the Lost-verse works, except for Desmond for some damn reason.
- A minor point, but the word was "string," not "street." OCD mode is now over.
- In yet another loop in the fifth season, in "The Variable", Faraday himself is killed by his mother when he travels back in time to before he was born. His mother therefore knows, throughout Faraday's life, that she killed (the future) him, yet she accepts this "sacrifice" and uses every opportunity to strictly direct him along his destiny.
- Also in the fifth season, Richard gives a compass to Locke, who then travels through time for a while and gives the compass to Richard in the 1950s. Where did the compass come from? Who manufactured it? Where did it go?
- Short answer: Richard must have first acquired it sometime between the 1950s and the 1980s to then give it to Locke. Another theory: they are two different compasses, just the same brand and model. Eloise is set up to know the future, so there must've been a long bull session where she and Richard got around to discussing the possibility of Temporal Paradox and the Stable Time Loop. Easiest solution is to throw away the compass that was provided in the 1950s and give Locke a different compass of the same brand and type. Locke won't know the difference and the compass does not disappear into the loop of time.
- It's easier than that. Richard acquires the original version of the compass externally at any point before 2005. Could have been before or after the 1950s. Doesn't matter. In the 1950s, he receives the second iteration of the compass, and he gives the original to Locke in 2005; meanwhile, he keeps the second iteration or discards it somewhere. From the compass's point of view, it's built, is acquired by Richard, passes to Locke, goes back in time, passes to Richard, and goes about its merry way.
- Each of these scenarios seems to be suggesting that the events of the fifth season finale will result in a Stable Time Loop for all the passengers of Oceanic 815. Miles explicitly draws attention to this. Detonating a nuclear weapon on top of the odd electromagnetic phenomenon at the Swan may well create the very anomaly whose energy must be discharged every 108 minutes. When that source is not so discharged, the electromagnetic surge created causes a pulse effect that causes Jack et. al. to crashland on the island ... thus putting them in place to eventually go backward in time and set up the crash to begin with. As for how this phenomenon can occur and still leave a sixth season to be made will probably be a result of Plot Induced Immunity.
- Turns out the bomb didn't cause it: when they drop it on the phenomenon, it fails to go off, but the anomaly starts anyway. Then Juliet manages to detonate it, the screen fades to white, and the season ends. Whatever this was, it was a subversion of the already established stable time-loop rules of this universe (probably).
- Earlier episodes tend to imply that even that was a Stable Time Loop, most notably including the fact that you see Pierre losing his arm in the episode where they try to hit the Reset Button and he's missing his arm when he talks about the Incident, implying that it happened the same way as it always had.
- Let's just say that Lost has confusing time travel. However, the clearest, unambiguous example of a Stable Time Loop in the show is "The Constant", in which Daniel's journal guides him to tell Desmond certain things to his past self, which his past self then records in the journal before losing his memory. Most notably, the frequency needed to make his time machine work came out of nowhere, since it was passed back and forth between Faraday and Desmond infinitely.
- Stephen Colbert (circa 2009-2509 or so), the main character in The Colbert Report, failed to stop Stephen Colbert (circa 2005-2009) from electrocuting himself, then took his place as host in order to be hosting the show in 2500 to come back in time so he would exist in his present to come back in time...etc.
- In Kamen Rider Kabuto, despite the fact that the Hyper Zecter was destroyed, the fact that Tendou had all ready attained it in a parallel time means he can send it back to himself from that future so he can have it to give to himself later when this time comes around. Yeah.
- Lampshaded in the movie God Speed Love where Tendou gets the Hyper Zecter legitimately and uses it to go back in time to give himself his belt.
- In the Supernatural episode "In the Beginning," Dean's actions help to set many elements of the series in motion, from encouraging his father to purchase the Impala that Dean later drives, to accidentally focusing the attentions of the Yellow-Eyed Demon on his mother, Mary. The creator of the show noted that the Stable Time Loop concept confused Jensen Ackles a bit. He was told to just go with it.
- It was stated that what had happened was fate, and that Dean wouldn't have been able to change the outcome. He had been sent back just to witness the events.
- Fraggle Rock: Mokey, researching an ancient leader named Blundig who caused some boulders to be moved, accidentally goes back in time, pretends to be Blundig, and causes the boulders to be moved. In the process, she also makes Fraggle culture closer to what it is in the present.
- The Book of Pooh has a story that's somewhat close to this trope. The story "Once Upon a Happy Ending" opens with Tigger hanging upside down in a tree with honey jars stuck to his paws. He wonders what's going on and the Narrator explains that he accidentally opened the book to the end of the story. He suggests they go back to the beginning so they can find out what happened and Tigger agrees. It turns out that in the story, Tigger is trying to help Piglet to retrieve an acorn that he lost. Along the way, he gets a couple of honey jars stuck on his paws. Eventually, he learns that retrieving Piglet's acorn would require him to climb a tree, but at this point, he says "no way" because he's already seen what happened. He backs away from the tree, but trips and ends up getting catapulted into the tree.
Radio
- The Doctor Who audio drama "Flip-Flop" takes this to a rather confusing extreme: Two time loops that feed each other. It's presented on two discs, a "White disc" and a "Black disc", and they can be listened to in either order (or indeed in a continuous loop), as each one follows a different timeline. To summarize: On both discs the Doctor and Mel arrive to find the planet Puxatornee on Christmas Eve just before midnight in a terrible way: On one disc, a radioactive wasteland, on the other controlled by a hostile alien species. They are forced to go back in time to prevent it, and go back to Christmas Day to find the planet worse: On one disc, controlled by an alien species, and on the other a radioactive wasteland. They are then forced to go back to Christmas Eve before they arrived, and leave just before their other selves arrive on the planet, beginning the adventure on the other disc
Tabletop RPG
- Continuum is an RPG where the characters' entire goal is to make sure stable time loops work out.
- Planescape's Faction War features a double time loop. Considering that the person stuck in it tried to overthrow the Lady of Pain, he had it easy.
- Rulified by the german RPG The Dark Eye in which time travel follows a simple law: you cannot change the past, as it had already happened and you'll just end up doing what you did to create the present you're currently living in. If by some chance the hero does discover some hopelessly contradicting action, be prepared for time to heal itself. Oh, and the universe has wardens against such misuse, too.
- Get ready for a Mind Screw - in The Chronicles Of Fate tabletop RPG, the entire multiverse is one gigantic Stable Time Loop which leads to it also being an Eternal Recurrence scenario.
- Bizarre version from Warhammer 40000. An Imperial warship picks up a distress call from an Imperial vessel under heavy attack, and goes to respond. When it arrives, it finds no Imperial ship, but the warship itself comes under heavy attack... and sends out a distress call. Thanks to the ability of the Warp to mess with time, the ship went to its destruction answering its own distress call.
Video Games
- In The Legend Of Zelda: Ocarina of Time, Link meets a man in the future who is angry that someone in the past used the Song of Storms to wreck his windmill. This teaches Link the Song of Storms, and he goes back in time to use it and wreck said windmill.
- Meanwhile, The Legend Of Zelda: Oracle of Ages has quite a few of them, such as defeating the Great Moblin in the present and receiving a Bomb Flower as a reward, then giving said Bomb Flower to the Gorons in the past, who use it to destroy the rocks that collapsed on the Goron Elder while also promising to use its seeds to grow the patch of bomb flowers that the Great Moblin had taken control of in the present.
- In Escape from Monkey Island, there is a puzzle in which you must navigate Guybrush Threepwood through a swamp with time-bending properties. About half way through, Guybrush meets his future self on the other side of a fence. The two of you have a conversation which ends in your future self giving you a few (apparently useful) items and going on his way. Later, when you're on the other side of the fence, you must recreate the conversation you had with your future self with your past self, give him the items your future self gave you, then go on your way. If you get it wrong, you cause a time paradox and have to start over.
- In Ever17, the main character (revealed to actually be a 4th-dimensional being known as "Blick Winkel") travels back in time from 2034 to 2017 to save two other characters from certain death, only to find that if he immediately reveals their survival to the others, that will create a Temporal Paradox preventing him from coming back in time in the first place—so instead he is forced to hide their existence and manipulate the others into setting up the event in 2034 that results in him being "summoned" in the first place.
- Fate Stay Night. The swords that Archer carries. Shirou can only create a weapon he's seen (most of the swords created in Unlimited Blade Works come from weapons he saw in Gilgamesh's Noble Phantasm, Gates of Babylon.) However, in the case of his two main swords, Shirou learned to create them from seeing his future self wielding them.
- Whilst Shirou copied the swords from Archer, Archer himself almost certainly didn't copy them from the equivalent Archer in his time. It's likely that, in Archer's timeline, Rin summoned a different servant as Archer, and that Archer himself saw the swords at a later point in his life.
- Even though the entire Prince Of Persia series is based on time travel, the example that stands out most is when the Prince continuously encounters a strange creature through his travels in Prince Of Persia: The Warrior Within. As it turns out, the strange creature is actually the Prince himself, transformed into "The Sand Wraith" after he found the mythical mask that could be used to change his fate, he then had to go back in time and meet his past self in all those locations. The kicker? The last time the two meet, instead of The Sand Wraith dying, which happened the first time you saw it, this time you kill your past self and resume the story in the same part as your past self, but you're really your future self. Get it?
- LegacyOfKain: Soul Reaver 2 seems to have one. Once Raziel finds the Reaver broken in half and sticks it back together, he threatens Morbius with it, but for no particular reason throws it away. The most logical thing for Morbius was to take the fixed Reaver, and give it to William back in Blood Omen 1. Then Kain makes two Reavers meet, creating a Time Paradox, which breaks William's Reaver. The broken Reaver is left on William's grave, thus a loop is established. There are actually more of these, but this loop is special, considering that the second Soul Reaver appeared out of nowhere.
- The first Fallout game has the Player Character trying to find water for their fallout shelter after its water chip is broken. It ends with the PC staying in the post-apocalyptic Earth and heading off to start a new life. The sequel has a random encounter in which the player, now controlling a descendant of the character in the first game, travels back in time to just before the first game and ends up in the shelter. The only way to return to your own time is to break the shelter's water chip...
- In defense of the Chosen One (the PC from the second game), the special encounters aren't generally considered canon within the series. For example, another special encounter in Fallout 2 lets you recruit Dogmeat, despite canon apparently being that Dogmeat died in the Mariposa Military Base by running into a forcefield (which, if you have ever played Fallout 1 and reached that area of the game with Dogmeat still alive, is almost guaranteed to happen).
- A Stable Time Loop is essential to the plot of Final Fantasy VIII. Because the main party kills Ultimecia in a partially time-compressed realm, she is able to give her powers to Edea/Matron before she perishes. This is what makes Edea the perfect choice to possess for Ultimecia's plans, and causes the main conflict in the present that leads to the need to destroy Ultimecia. Additionally, after Edea inherits Ultimecia's powers in the past, Squall explains the concept of SeeD to her, thus inspiring the creation of the mercenary organization he grew up in and setting up his own role in the events of the game. The Stable Time Loop is further illustrated by the futile efforts at one of the cast members to Set Right What Once Went Wrong; she ultimately concludes that the past cannot be changed.
- It's more fun when you realize that, since Rinoa is presumably the last sorceress in the world and inherits Edea's powers, and that a sorceress can only become a true sorceress by inheriting power from a predecessor, Ultimecia would have had to receive her power from either Rinoa or a protege of Rinoa, and thus Ultimecia basically gave her own power to herself.
- It's actually worse than it sounds. Since Rinoa ALSO received the powers of the Sorceress Adel on top of Edea's, this creates a Time Loop that continually grows both Rinoa and Ultimecia in power with every cycle. And since Rinoa can't take Ultimecia by herself...
- Strangely enough, this trope is seen in the original Final Fantasy. The story begins when the Light Warriors are sent to the nearby Temple of Chaos to kill the renegade knight Garland. As Garland is dying, the four Elemental Fiends of the game magically send him two thousand years into the past, when he becomes the demon Chaos, and sends the four Fiends to the still-the-past future to seize control of the four Elemental Orbs. The Fiends take roughly four hundred years to obtain all the Orbs and use them to wreck the world until the present day, when the Light Warriors fight Garland, slay the Fiends, and travel to the past to confront Chaos and die fighting him. The game ends when the Light Warriors kill Chaos and end the stable time loop.
- Shadow Hearts: Covenant ends with the character Karin Koenig being sent back in time some 25 years as a result of her journeys with the main character, Yuri Hyuga. There, the first person she meets is Yuri's father, and it's strongly implied that she goes on to become Yuri's mother.
- And this begs the question of where Anne's Cross came from.
- In the good ending, Yuri kills himself, letting himself be impaled on a rock spire, to avoid having his soul destroyed by the Mistletoe's curse. With his last thought, he sends himself back to the beginning of the first game. As he waits for the train, there are hints that this time he will save Alice from what killed her the first time.
- Regarding that good ending, Yuri actually seems aware of the stable time loop ("Here comes that train again."), which raises questions of its own.
- Soul Nomad And The World Eaters features one of the most bizarre examples of this trope: During an early cutscene during a New Game Plus, possession of a certain item sends Gig and the main character 250 years back in time, to shortly after Lord Median killed the Master of Death, Vigilance (the previous incarnation of Gig). The pair of you destroy Median's armies and cause the Master of Life, Virtuous, to murder Median, causing the fall of Median's empire that is a part of your own timeline's backstory (and giving Virtuous the idea for fusing the main character and Gig 250 years in the future). When the main character later dies, his or her soul, as well as Gig's, is sent to Drazil, who causes the original creation of Gig from the newly deceased Vigilance. Drazil then turns the two of you into two of the world eaters that are subsequently sent back to Haephnes with the newly minted Gig to cause mass destruction — which are destroyed by the main character and Gig 250 years later during the game's main storyline. Thus, the alternate timeline version of you two not only set in motion the events of the main story and are inspirations for your own creation, but also become two of your own worst enemies, and get killed by yourselves. Whew.
- The Jak And Daxter series pulls a rather spectacular Stable Time Loop: At the end of the first game, Jak discovers a huge portal through time and space, which, when activated at the start of the second game, unleashes the Metal Head race into the world, and Jak & Daxter are immediately sent to the distant future. There Jak discovers that he was actually born in the future, and helps his younger self go back into the past to be raised safe from harm so that he can become his old self and defeat the Metal Head leader.
- Also, The vehicle they used to ride through the huge portal was created by keira in the future, based on the specifications of the vehicle she found in the past, Which is the vehicle in the future.
- AND the armor you gain throughout Jak 3 was left by mar, who is, in fact, jak, who built haven city.
- Jak being Mar is never really confirmed, but if he is, then he is supposedly his own ancestor, given that he is in Jak II stated to be the heir of Mar.
- The developers said in an interview that they were going to have Jak go back in time at the end of Jak 3, but changed their mind at the last minute and had the precursors deal with it.
- The end of the second stage and the beginning of the eighth stage of Gradius V are both set in the same timeframe and same battleship, with the past and present versions of the Vic Viper running through segments of the stage alongside each other. The game records the actions of your 'past' version to replay in the second run-through.
- Time Splitters: Future Perfect had numerous examples of this. One of the earliest examples is also one of the most memorable - you are given a key by your future self that you need to progress, and later pass the key on to your past self, leaving its initial existence unexplained.
- Sam And Max Season 2 has the player create at least two stable time loops. The first involves taking a boxing glove from a character's present self and giving it to his past self - one would initially assume that the boxing glove is the same one from Season 1, but it can't be, since it turns out to be on an infinite loop. The other time loop involves traveling into the near future - so near as to be the next episode - and picking up an object, which causes the player character to be interrupted by someone calling from outside the window, asking for that object. The player character automatically tosses him the object, and receives another in return. In the next episode, the player character becomes the person outside the window, and must do what he remembers he did - an action that makes no sense without prior knowledge, even to the game's player.
- The Infocom Adventure Game Sorcerer features a Stable Time Loop. At one point, your future self appears and gives you the combination to a locked door, and demands your spell book. After you've unlocked the door, you have to travel back in time and give the combination to your past self, and get the spell book from him. (You can't carry anything with you when you go back in time.) The time travel spell is named "golmac" as a Shout Out to the "gold machine", the time machine in Zork III. It's fun to do silly things like screaming or singing when your future self appears, then watch how they're described when it's your past self doing them.
- Its sequel, Spellbreaker, features a two-in-one: you have to establish two Stable Time Loops in two different locations (with time limits on each), or else be wrung from existence by the ensuing paradox should you try to leave the hourglass. Early on in the game, you find a magic zipper that functions as your Bag of Holding; going back to that location in the past, you find a sack in its place, and have to swap the two (and all the contents thereof) before the rising water kills you. Elsewhere, there's a disused cell containing a moldy spellbook, entirely illegible save for one useful spell; when you return there in the past, you have to put your spellbook where you found the moldy one in the future (memorizing as many spells from it as you can first!) and leave the room precisely as it was (or will be) before the guards arrive.
- The DS game Time Hollow is rife with these, mostly because more than one person can adjust time.
- In all reality, The entire game is one BIG Time Loop which is both stable and constantly shifting. The overarcing plot is one huge Stable Time Loop due to the protagonist sending himself hints and clues at the end of the game to his startgame self but the events of both the past and present during certain periods is in constant flux, even though due to the looping nature, that flux is always in its own stable loop.
- Near the beginning of Tomb Raider: Legend there is a flashback to Lara's childhood in which she set off an ancient device. Her mother then pushed Lara out of the way, looked into a ball of light and had a confused conversation with a mysterious figure (who the players can't see or hear) before disappearing. At the end of the game Lara inadvertently opens up a time portal and it is revealed that she was the person her mother was talking to at the start.
- In Vandal Hearts, the NPC Leena is sent back in time, and is then revealed to be the party member Eleni, who had Easy Amnesia until that point. The loop aspect comes in with the character's pendant, given to the earlier version by the later version.
- This trope is brought up tragically in Wild ARMs 5, where it is revealed that heroine Avril is stuck in one of these. She is forced to continually travel 1,000 years into the past to set in motion the events of the game... but not before she sets herself up to awaken during this time period so she can ensure things play out how they should, and she is sent to the past once again. She can never leave this loop, as it may have cataclysmic consequences, and she'd much prefer her beloved to be happy. Although all the traveling and slumber gives her Laser Guided Amnesia, she always remembers everything before she makes her Heroic Sacrifice.
- The plot of Taiyō no Shinden Asteka II (a.k.a. Tombs and Treasure) is that the player characters are searching for Professor Imes, who went missing while exploring the ruins of Chichen Itza. One of the ruins is "The Tomb of the High Priest". The ending reveals that the professor went back in time and became the High Priest.
- An unusual example in Okami, where the protaganist's past self, Shiranui, travels to the future. She saves Amaterasu and friends from a spell that holds them motionless and Ammy was too weak to break, but at the cost of a mortal wound. She returns to the past, dies, and is sealed. When she's awakened as Amaterasu, her powers are considerably weakened, which is why she needed to be saved in the first place.
- The indie game Original War is all about this, with the Americans and Russians sending soldiers into the distant past to fight over the game's Phlebotinum. Whoever wins the war keeps the Phlebotinum, but near the end of the Cold War the losers send a strike force back in time to steal it...
- The Infocom Interactive Fiction game Trinity contains both a major and a minor loop. The minor one involves an umbrella lost by a woman in London that you retrieve; when you go back in time to just before the bomb is dropped on Nagasaki, you give the umbrella to a girl, who will grow up into the woman you met in London. The entire game is a Stable Time Loop; you go back in time to sabotage the Trinity test (which would've destroyed most of New Mexico), create a Temporal Paradox because without atomic weapons, you would have never been born, so the universe resolves the paradox by making a small explosion every time an atomic weapon is detonated, and the game ends with you repeating your actions in the beginning.
- Chrono Trigger's entire plot is concerned with a bunch of stable and unstable time loops. One that carefully averts the paradox element is when Chrono dies and is completeley vaporized by Lavos. Later his friends save him by going back to the moment in time just before he dies to replace him with a lifeless clone. This is not a paradox because they don't alter what anyone in the past witnessed and so don't inadvertently cancel their own actions. Most of the other time loops are not resolved so immaculately.
- Sunset Over Imdahl, a freeware game made with RPG Maker, contains such a loop the plague, the one that killed all of your loved ones, the one that you were sent back to try to stop? You were the carrier. A chill's running a marathon down your spine, isn't it?
- In Bookworm Adventures Volume 2, Evi Lex doesn't exist at all, but in reality is a time travelling Lex. This Stable Time Loop was orchestrated by Bigger Brother to keep Lex busy and to get Lex to give him the Magic Pen.
- In City Of Heroes, the Menders of Ouroboros are a time-travelling group dedicated to keeping the timestream straight. The first one you meet accidentally creates a Stable Time Loop when he rambles on about how you and he solved a problem in a mission you haven't undertaken yet.
- Xenosaga: THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE is one of these, put in motion by Big Bad Wilhelm to prevent the destruction of the universe.
- Present in the OEL Visual Novel Mirai Imouto. Misaki travels from the future to the present, and tries to find a way to prevent her brother, Hiseo, from dying due to his heart condition. One of the reasons she wants to prevent his death so much is because in her past (the story's present), her brother spent most of his time before his death with some random girl (future-Misaki), and present-Misaki grew up into future-Misaki remembering that she wasn't able to spend much time with Hiseo before he died.
Web Comics
- This Questionable Content guest strip
. VERY SPOILERIFFIC!
- In the Dominic Deegan, Oracle For Hire arc "The Storm of Souls", Dominic researches the creation and death of the first Acibek at the advice of Klo Tark, who met Dominic for the first time when he saw him several thousand years ago watching the death of Acibek.
- These happen so often in Bob And George that characters declaring "I hate time travel" became a Running Gag.
- In Wicked Powered, time travel incidents result in the protagonist being his own father AND his own mother.
- In Stickman And Cube, Cube purchases a time machine on eBay. The time machine then travels to the future by itself, and when it returns, Cube sends it back. Through time. To before they bought it. The guy who sold them the time machine finds it, and, having no other use for it, puts it on eBay...
- In probably one of the shortest and most succinct versions of the trope, Fuzzy of Sam and Fuzzy engages in a Stable Time Loop in this strip.
- Not quite as short as this one
from 8-Bit Theater where Black Mage witnesses himself saying something in the future, wonders out loud why he will say it, and then says it in response to Red Mage's explanation in the space of three "panels".
- Here's another
8-Bit Theater example. In a previous comic, Theif stole his class change from his future self. In the linked strip, the other three Light Warriors get their class changes reversed while fighting Sarda. Thief remarks on how that "worked out okay." Cue his class change getting stolen by his past self.
Thief: Well. I deserve this. Sarda: What you deserve is so much worse.
- The Space theme of Irregular Webcomic was stuck in one complex Stable Time Loop in which the characters constantly revenge their own actions to themselves. It ended taking up most of the other themes, and (as expected) ended in a Rocks Fall Everyone Dies at the end of that year
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- Of course, parts of the time loop were unstable, as Iki Piki's Splanch is now, theoretically, infinitely old.
- This
Starslip Crisis strip is utterly shameless and straight-faced about this trope.
- The entire Surreptitious Machinations story arc of General Protection Fault was ultimately about stopping a Stable Time Loop that a tyrant was using to stay in power.
- Occurs in Sluggy Freelance during the "Oceans Unmoving
" Story Arc, thanks to a godlike who decides "Life's SO much funner with the paradox rules turned off! "
- The ultimate fate of Unicornmotorcycle Sparkelord in The Adventures of Dr. McNinja, as he is thrown into a portal that strips him of his memories and sends him into a pyramid, where he is discovered by the antiques dealer who first rode him at the beginning of the comic, takes up with Dr Mc Ninja again, is thrown back in the portal, and repeat.
- Every instance of time travel in Umlaut House.
- This
SMBC Comic
- The birthday present John sends to Jade in Homestuck is an incredibly convoluted stable time loop. Explaining it would take several paragraphs. Just...read the comic.
Web Original
- This is essentially Dr. Insano's backstory as part of The Spoony Experiment: Insano is an alternate-universe version of Spoony, who has grown so angry with the Final Fantasy franchise that he wants to go back in time to erase it from existance. Since being able to travel through time would require him to study science for decades, he decides to create a time loop just like that of the original Final Fantasy by studying science, travelling back in time and then obtaining all the knowledge he needs from his future self.
- In Red Vs Blue, Church creates an uncountable number of Stable Time Loops as he fails his objective each time and keeps trying.
- Most of the Finalverse characters' histories apparently rely on this.
Western Animation
- In Futurama's episode "Roswell That Ends Well," Farnsworth is very adamant about not changing the past, unless of course they were supposed to change the past, in which case, they must certainly change. Fry end up killing his grandfather Enos by mistake, after an attempt to keep him safe. He impregnates his grandmother, thus becoming his own grandfather, which becomes Chekhovs Gun. After that, Farnsworth gives up about not changing the past. The crew blasts up Roswell Air Force Base, steals some gear, rescues Zoidberg and Bender's body, and blasts off into space. Farnsworth then delivers one of the best lines ever: "Choke on that, causality!" Oh yeah, and throughout all this, the crew ends up being the mysterious alien ship that crashed in Roswell, and Zoidberg is the alien.
- Later, the aforementioned Chekhovs Gun comes into play, which gave him a birth defect to fight the Brainspawn. He ends up trapping himself with the Brainspawn, and they send him back in time, so he can avoid falling into the cryogenic tube, and live out his life in the 2000s. It turns out Nibbler is the reason he fell (Nibbler never went back in time, he's just that old). Nibbler convinces him to stay by saying he might have a chance with Leela in the future, and thusly helps himself fall alongside Nibbler. In a clever twist, on an earlier flashback episode, you can see Fry and Nibbler's shadows just as Fry falls into the tube.
- This one is not a Stable Time Loop however since Fry gives Nibbler the information needed to prevent him from being trapped with the Brainspawn in the first place.
- Bender's Big Score adds a few more. The aliens that destroyed civilization in the background while Fry was frozen? That was Bender gone back in time. Fry's dog turned out to have a happy life with a copy of Fry who chose to stay behind in the 2000s, while letting his other copy freeze to the year 3000. He gets killed and instantly fossilized when a mind controlled Bender blasts Fry's apartment. Lars was the copy of Fry who decided to stay in the 2000s. He makes it to the year 2012, making him biologically older than the Fry we know, and his larynx and hair were damaged in the blast. He remembers the name Lars from the future, and thusly knows what to name himself and how to act. The Bender tatoo that allowed him to travel back in time in the first is glued on by a repaired Bender who did just that in a seemingly random part in the middle of the movie.
- Also, in the movie, their main method of time travel, the ball, is stated to be a self correcting method. Thusly, any copies made using the time travel are doomed to die horribly at some point. Some last longer than others. Farnsworth and Nibbler state that there can't be any paradoxes, and if there are, such as by the end of the movie where it's revealed there's hundreds of Benders, it rips open a hole in the universe, leading to the events of the second movie.
- The Game actually had entire plot, which was a giant Shoot The Shaggy Dog story about trying to prevent Mom from conquering the world by buying Planet Express, and dying while failing to do anything other than set up a seemingly random joke at the start.
- Time travel in Gargoyles (via the Phoenix Gate) can't be used to change the past. The Avalon arc includes the flashback antagonist known as the Archmage in a classic bootstrap scenario: he travels back in time, saves himself from his canonical death at the bottom of a cliff, spends a day jumping through time to get his younger self up to speed on the plan, and then sets him off to repeat the process.
- An episode of Star Trek The Animated Series has Kirk and Spock return from a trip to the past to find that the ship suddenly has a different science officer, and no one else knows who Spock is. Spock relates a memory from his childhood when his life was saved by an adult Vulcan, who he realizes looked exactly like he does now. So he has to take one more trip to the past to save himself and set things right.
- The Powerpuff Girls: Mojo Jojo goes back in time to try to kill The Professor as young boy to prevent him from creating the Powerpuff Girls. The girls follow and save The Professor, and it was this very incident that inspired him to get into science and try to create "the perfect little girl."
- The Fairly Oddparents full-episode special "The Secret Origin of Denzel Crocker": Timmy goes back in time to figure out why Crocker is so miserable. He discovers that Crocker had fairy godparents as a kid, and not just any random fairies, either—Cosmo and Wanda were his fairies. Since present-day Cosmo and Wanda had no memory of this, they quickly figure that Crocker had done something to lose his fairies. They then set out to try to stop this, but Timmy ends up being the one revealing Crocker's secret in public. Worse still, he leaves A.J.'s "Crocker-tracker" in the past, which Crocker managed to reconfigure with Cosmo's DNA, making it a much more effective "Fairy-Finder" than the one present-day Crocker previously had.
- ...which actually proves to be only a semi-stable time loop. If it were a true stable time loop, Crocker would have had AJ's tracker the entire time. Either that, or he 'forgot' that he had it until immediately after Timmy gets back from his time-travel.
- Transformers Generation 1 featured a truly epic multi-layer time loop revealed over the course of several episodes. 11 million years ago, A3 led a revolt against the Quintessons; however, in 2006, the Quintessons yanked A3 into their own time to prevent themselves from losing Cybertron. Blaster, Perceptor, Blurr, and Wreck-Gar go back in time to help the rebellion, while the Aerialbots save A3 from the Quintessons. A3 returns to his own time to lead the rebellion. Two million years later, A3, now known as Alpha Trion, meets the Aerialbots, who have travelled back in time from 1986. The Aerialbots persuade him to save the life of a young dock worker named Orion Pax, who he rebuilds into Optimus Prime (and also rebuilds Orion's girlfriend Ariel into Elita One). The Aerialbots return to their own time and then, in 1984, Optimus Prime and Alpha Trion build the Aerialbots from a group of shuttles. You may wish to draw a diagram.
- In the Pinky And The Brain episode "Brain of the Future," the two mice travel to the distant future in a time machine given to them by their future selves, who had just returned from the distant future. There, they lose the time machine they arrived in but manage to steal a "different" one and return to give it to their past selves...
- Kim Possible: A Stitch in Time has this. Shego stole the time monkey only because she stole it, went back in time, transferred Ron away from Kim, and then told herself to steal the time monkey. This somewhat changes when the time monkey is is destroyed and the entire timeline that its use created is revoked, along with the very existence of the time monkey. So, you destroy it once, it erases itself from ever existing. So Shego never went back in time, Ron never left KP, and nobody ever knew or cared about the time monkey.
- And within that wheel, Shego takes the monkey while in the past and escapes into the timestream, so Kim goes straight from the past to face Shego in the Bad Future. Shego manages to Take Over The World partly because Kim wasn't around to stop her, since she skipped over that whole time.
- Dexters Laboratory also had a movie featuring this. Dexter invents a time machine and goes the the future, when he's in his twenties. He distracts his future self, causing him to lose the artifact to Mandark, who uses it to put the world into a Bad Future...which the Dexters skipped over and went to the utopian future where Mandark is defeated, and only a brain remains. Dexter is really old and senile now, and has no idea what happened. So they go to the dark future, and all four fight Mandark, who summons his four counterparts to the Dexters. They fight, but ultimately it is Dee Dee who save them. Mandark is reduced to a brain instantly, and the Dexters are furious that Dee Dee stole their thunder. They build killer robots to send into the past to "fight the one who saved the future"...which Dexter fought at the very beginning of the movie believing they were after him.
- The finale of Mighty Max ends with Max waking up the day he receives the cap and meets his sidekicks for the first time. In a twist, he still remembers all of the adventures he had during the first trip.
- The only time time travel occurred in Sponge Bob Square Pants had Squidward going to the distant past through a series of events stemming from avoiding Spongebob and Patrick trying to get him to go jellyfishing with them. He meets the caveman versions of them and shows them not to be afraid of jellyfish by demonstrating jellyfishing, then giving both nets to try it themselves. Upon his return, he mocks whoever was the one who invented jellyfishing, to which Spongebob and Patrick tell Squidward it was him.
Fan Fiction
Other
- The song One For The Vine by Genesis tells the story of a soldier who deserts from an army led by a messianic leader, only to become that leader and see his earlier self deserting at the end of the song.
- In live performances, the Flight Of The Conchords song 'Bowie' is usually preceeded by a description of Bret and Jermaine travelling back in time and meeting David Bowie, to whom Bret plays his Bowie's own songs, and even leaves an "easy to play Bowie song book".
- The song Iron Man by Black Sabbath is about a man who sees the apocalypse, and travels back in time to warn people. But, in the course of the time travel, the man is transformed into a literal "iron man". When he tries to warn people, they ignore him and say he's insane. Eventually, he gets pissed off and causes the apocalypse he traveled back in time to prevent.
Real Life
- You never thought you'd see it, but some non-trivial physicists are wondering
aloud whether the future is actively trying to scuttle the LHC research project. The string of mechanical difficulties, they say, may be more than mere chance: Whether through [future] human intervention or the universe itself exercising some form of upstream-acting ontological intertia, the future is trying to make sure we don't mess with Higgs Bosons. Loopy? Literally. Crazy? Probably. Impossible? Well...
- So maybe they should just take the hint and not turn the damn thing on.
- Never stop for logic! We must proceed, For Science!
- Someone get this guy some fingerpaints.
- It's on now.
We'll see if they manage to blow up the Earth before the next bird/bread attack.
- The stupidity of this idea is incredibly profound. The same theory that predicts Higgs bosons also forbids time travel. Furthermore, if Higgs bosons could destroy the universe or whatever, other sources of Higgses besides particle accelerators would have caused much trouble by now.
- Whilst the idea is indeed stupid, there's nothing that says that, if the Higgs Boson exists, time travel is impossible. Time Travel is generally in the domain of General Relativity, whereas the Higgs Boson is a Particle Physics phenomenon. Discovering it tells us very little about the deeper theory that would be needed to combine the two, and thus tells us nothing about the possibility of time travel.
- What's monumentally stupid about this idea is that, rather than say, "oh damn, we screwed up again and this part went wrong in our multi-billion dollar superscience gadget," they'd rather say, "well, clearly magic time-wizards in the future are attempting to stop us from using this superscience gadget." Surely, if they're going with the second option, they'd want to let the magic time-wizards win. Right?
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