How I Met Your Mother
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Ranjiit is already friends with the Mother
If he can become lifelong friends with a group of people years younger than him from one taxi ride, what's to stop him being the same for someone else in New York? He's never suggested her as a date to Ted because he knows she's been getting over Max the whole time.
The Mother's name will be something along the lines of Emerald or Jade or some other precious gem
because Robin is named after a bird (animal), Lily is named after a flower (vegetable), Ted's wife should be named after a mineral.
The Mother's name will be Leah, (a) after Star Wars, and (b) explaining why their daughter isn't named Leia.
Future!Ted switched his and Barney's names around
Like in "Ted Mosby Architect". The series will end with "that's how I met your mother and your Uncle Barney met his true love at my wedding". The entire time the person who was being refered to as "Uncle Barney" was the one narrating the story and the guy called "Ted" was really "Uncle Barney". Yeah I know there'd be plot holes, such as the fact that the kids would know the difference when Ted's or Barney's families are mentioned, but imagine if it did end like that. It would kind of explain why towards the end Barney becomes more and more a romantic and Ted comes off more and more like a Barney. Maybe the switch in names occurred about halfway through the series. There'd still be plot holes but it's fun to imagine the series ending like that, I can almost see it happening.
Most or all of Season 9 will take place during Robin and Barney's
In the last few minutes on the Season 8 finale, we're given the subtitles "56 hours before the wedding". From this point onwards, the events of each episode (that takes place during the wedding) will take place closer together (hours or minutes apart of one another). We already know from Word of God
that it won't be the smoothest of weddings.
- Confirmed. All of Season 9 is within Robin and Barney's wedding weekend, using flash-forwards and flashbacks to reveal things about the Mother while still keeping the wedding weekend as the present.
Ted will in the end be with Robin but the woman with the Umbrella will be the "surrogate mother"
One of the most frequently asked questions about this show is why does the show give Ted and Robin such strong ship tease especially later on in Season 8 despite on how the show seems to insist that Robin can't be the mother of Ted's future kids? Especially considering on how she is unable to bear children. The woman with the Umbrella will be someone that Ted and Robin will befriend with and get her to be the "surrogate mother" since Robin is unable to get pregnant.)
- This seems unlikely. Why would Future Ted still refer to her as "your Aunt Robin" when he's talking to his kids?
- Not to mention the times when Future Ted mentions how much he loves the Mother: why would he talk like that about her, if she was only the surrogate mother?
- This scenario could end up with Barney and the surrogate mother falling for each other. This actually makes sense. Barney has shown an almost unhealthy obsession with Ted throughout the series. Who better for him to end up with than a woman that is basically Ted's distaff counterpart?
- (Hopefully) Averted. from what we've seen, Barney and Robin get married and Ted and the Mother are extremely happy together.
- And halfway confirmed in the finale: after spending six years getting over the mother's death, Ted asks Robin out in the exact same way as he asked her out the very first time.
The Mother will be played by the same actress as Robin Scherbatsky (Cobie Smulders)
The only way to explain why the writers keep teasing Ted and Robin even though Robin and Barney are getting married in the season 8 finale.
- As in Robin has not one, but two dopplegängers? Cool WMG, but it was jossed.
Cindy had a crush on 'The Mother'
As Cindy has been revealed to be a lesbian her obsession with her roommate makes more sense if she fancied her. Hence why she feels as if all the guys she meets fancied her and why she gets so jealous when it looks like Ted likes her when she obviously had no sexual or romantic feelings for him.
The mother is the background woman at the end of 'The Window'
At the end of the episode, just as Ted says 'I'm ready' a woman in the background walks on and picks up a magazine from a stall.
The mother dropped the penny Ted found in 'The Lucky Penny'
As Ted explained, finding that penny ultimately meant that he stayed in New York and met 'the mother'. By dropping the penny, the mother put her and Ted's meeting into action.
- Which is even better when you think of their daughter's name.
- She is into coins and collects them, so she could indeed have a 1939 penny and if she lost it on the tube, she could have told Ted a story about "how I lost a sweet old penny".
The mother hates olives
This would bookend the series by going back to the olive theory that hasn't been mentioned since the first episode.
They're both blue-eyed brunettes whom Lyndsy Fonseca (a.k.a. Leia) kinda looks like.
- The mother is said to be a bass player. Zooey can play a guitar.
- Jossed. The Mother is played by Broadway actress Cristin Milioti.
Robin being the mother is still a possibility
Even after Ted and Robin broke up earlier in the series and tried to remain Just Friends
their relationship went back to Will They or Won't They?
off and on over the course of the series before Robin was with Barney. (And it still occurs even after Robin and Barney broke up and Barney has those issues with her as well.) Not too mention on how Ted and Robin have their promise to marry at 40 if they haven't already done so. Not too mention on the end of the 3rd episode of the 7th season in which Victoria walks away from Ted she states that Robin is the reason why none of Ted's other relationships over the course of the series worked out. Now you might be thinking "But Robin can't be the Mother since Future!Ted called her Aunt Robin" but that is because the show didn't want to reveal the identity of the mother already. (And lets be honest the show is not devoid of Fridge Logic
over the course of the series.)
- The deal they made no longer matters, as episode "Trilogy Time" revealed that Ted's daughter is born by 2015.
- In the episode "Disaster averted", Robin is wearing a yellow coat, also visible behind various characters in screenshots. Significant?
- While the "I met your mother at Barney's wedding" thing might be explained away as "seeing a heretofore unknown facet of Robin's personality," the information from "Girls vs. Suits" (i.e., being Cindy's roommate, having weird and whimsical musical/artistic tastes) clashes pretty strongly with what we know of Robin. Unless Word of God declares that a red herring of some sort, this theory seems pretty unlikely.
- Actually plenty of the hints have been Red Herrings over the course of the series (Cindy's Roomate is Cindy's Lesbian lover for example). So we can't really rely on the "hints" anymore so one can't be too certain over who is going to be the Mother of Ted's children.
- Um....Cindy's roommate was not Cindy's lesbian lover. Where the hell did you get that from? Ted just thought she was the roommate for a minute. She was the Mother. Unequivocally, absolutely, undeniably the mother. The ankle that Ted glimpsed was the Mother's. The items scattered around the apartment were the Mother's. The hobbies and descriptions Cindy gave were of the Mother. The umbrella Ted left was the Mother's, and the Mother got it back. The room he was standing in was the Mother's. This is all stuff that Future Ted explicitly told his kids. Yeah, lots of red herrings...but they're all explained away as teases or insinuations. Future Ted never outright lies. And Cindy's roommate was the Mother. That is one single fact that we absolutely know with total certainty.
- She can't be: in the 12th episode of season 3, "No Tomorrow", Future Ted says the mother was at the Saint Patrick's day party he went to; she was even the one who left the yellow umbrella he uses at the end of the episode. Robin was with Marshall and Lily at their new apartment while the party was going on, so it couldn't have been her.
- Not to mention it's been revealed that Robin can't have children.
- And Robin will ultimately be married to Barney.
The mother is Barney's Biological half-sister
Barney's father mentions that he has a biological half-sister in college. The Mother is known to be in college. Ted marries her, Barney marries Robin. "Uncle Barney" and "aunt robin" aren't honorary anymore.
- Something from The Bro Code here: Article 19 mentions that a bro is not allowed to sleep with another bro's sister. Amendment 3 throws article 19 out the window, if the sister is a 9 or higher. Carly Whittaker is either really hot or not the mother.
- This may be the most likely, as she is the only college student who could be at a wedding Ted will be at (that we know of).
- In episode 8x13, it's revealed that the mother is actually the basist of the band playing at Barney and Robin's wedding.
- Yes, this makes a lot of sense. Ted meets the mother at Barney and Robin's wedding. He's been friends with both of them for years, met many of their relations and most of their other friends. So the mother either has to be working there or someone from their past who he's never met. Barney's sister fits this description perfectly, as well as being a college student like the mother.
- Jossed as of episode 8x14. Ted has a one night stand with Barney's sister.
Victoria is the mother
He met her at a wedding, didn't he? There is no indication that the wedding we see after Ted claims he met his wife "the day of the wedding", that he should have to meet her at THAT wedding... Victoria is also fan favorite of all of Ted's girlfriends (except for perhaps Robin of course, but we know that ship can never sail).
- As i say to many of the WMGs, Ted didn't have his last cigarette two weeks into dating Victoria, this is a joss on many theories.
- Damn! Did he say last cigarette two weeks into dating their mother, or after he met their mother? If it's dating, you can justify/handwave it as "after they started dating AGAIN"...
- Aaaaaaand they're at least teasing it again in the seventh season.
- Umm... no, they are not. It's explicitly stated that Ted meets the Mother on Barney's wedding. Also, even though March 17, 2008 ("No Tomorrow"; the mother is at the St. Patrick's Day party) is a couple of days more than 2 years after "Cupcakes" (March 6-ish, 2006; Victoria's departure), it's unlikely that Victoria's scholarship started at exactly the day she arrived to Germany. It will rather be a lesson about bad timing.
- When people say, "Two years" they rarely mean, "exactly two years" or exactly 730 days. That's usually just a round estimate, maybe a little more or little less than two years, quite a bit more than a year and a half and quite a bit less than two and a half years. The exact date she left and the exact date of St. Patrick's Day isn't enough to rule it out.
- Klaus doesn't exist. Victoria only claimed to be getting married because she didn't want to get involved with Ted while he's still in this "weird" everyday relationship with his ex-lover Robin and her other ex-lover Barney. When Ted noticed she wasn't wearing a ring, she made up the story of finding the ring in her boyfriend's sock drawer. When Ted asked her her fiance's name, she asked, "Whose name?" which is often an indication that a character is lying. She then said, "Klaus" either because 1) there was actually a Klaus in her class and his name was the first name that occured to her, 2) there never was a Kalus. She'd made him up while communicating with Ted in their failed long-distance relationship to get him jealous because she was justifiably worried about his close proximity to Robin, or 3) Ted's remembering wrongly that there was a Klaus in her class, and Victoria just rolled with it. Even if Klaus does exist, we have no evidence he's actually proposed to Victoria yet. In any case, Victoria's brief return isn't the definite Jossed Ship Sinking it looks like at first glance. Klaus didn't appear in that episode, and everything we know of him is from just one person, Victoria.
- This is seemingly Jossed in the Season 7 finale (although Klaus still didn't actually appear...)
- One final theory on how the "Klaus doesn't exist" idea could still be true. The wedding Victoria ditched to be with Ted isn't her own wedding, but the wedding of Cindy, the Mother's former roommate (and Victoria's if she's the mother). As to why she'd keep lying about this, she might've initially lied about getting married because she didn't want to get involved with Ted while he was still rooming with Robin, but after leaving Ted she realizes she still loves him, but feels she's now stuck with the lie, especially when Ted calls her on the day she's wearing a wedding dress.
- ... why would she be wearing a wedding dress then?
- Jossed for good in the Season 8 premiere.
- With Klaus out of the way (this is the same troper who made the "Klaus doesn't exist" theory above), here's how the Mother could still turn out to be Victoria. It would be perfectly natural for Vicotria to be at Barney's (and Robin's?) wedding, since she makes outstanding wedding cakes. It's possible she and Ted will agree that the time they truly "met" would be when Ted's finally free of his "weird" Barney/Robin entanglement (that Future!Ted affirms Victoria's right about) and he's ready to be fully committed to her. While this could theoretically apply to any of Ted's ex-girlfriends, Victoria's the only one quirky enough (with her "One Night Only" "Drumroll" when she and Ted first literally met) for it to be perfectly in-character for her to agree (or even come up with) the idea that this will be the time they "met".
- Modified as of the Season 7 finale, where Ted and Victoria ride off together. Viewers have often debated whether the Mother should only be seen in the final episode or if we should have a full season devoted to her relationship with Ted. With Vicotria as Ted's girlfriend at the start of Season 8, it's possible to have both, with fans arguing whether she'll be the Mother. I can even imagine Ted and Victoria breaking up at some point in Season 8, only to get back together at Robin and Barney's wedding. Her presence there might even be deliberately arranged by Robin/Barney/both to try to get them back together. In that case, Ted and Victoria could decide they truly "met" when they got together and stayed together.
- It can't be Victoria, as the mother is a college student who started college when Victoria was in Germany.
- You are incorrect. Victoria went to Germany for two years. She left in late Season 1, March, 2006. Ted mistakenly went to the Economics classroom in the Fifth Season Premiere, September, 2009, three and a half years later. It's at least possible for Victoria to have gone to Germany, stayed there for the full two years, then for whatever reason, taken an Econmics class a year and half after she got back.
- Wouldn't Ted have recognized her if she was in that class?
- The classroom was a big, crowded auditorium. Victoria could've seen Ted before he could've seen her and done something like scrunch down behind her laptop to keep from being seen.
- Seemingly Jossed by the seventh season finale. Ted and Victoria ran away ran away together, but since they got together well before Barney's wedding, it really can't be Victoria.
- Of note is that this is still "the day of a wedding," but it's not Barney's, obviously.
- As I write this, it's now nearly 2 weeks since Ted and Victoria have broken up...and I still haven't fully given up hope that Victoria will turn out to be the Mother. What really Josses a potential Mother forever isn't the breakup. It's the confirmation from Future!Ted that no, she isn't the Mother. That's the only Jossing that matters. With that in mind, let's look at the other three main candidates and compare how they were Jossed:
- Jossed In: The Pilot.
- What Josses It: "And that's how I met your Aunt Robin." Future!Ted's kids are shocked and disgusted. They know who their Aunt Robin is and they know she's definitely not their Mother.
- Jossed In: Shelter Island.
- What Josses It: More than anything else, it's Future Ted's Imagine Spot of what might've happened if he'd simply obeyed Stella and talked to Tony while she talked to Robin: Tony and Robin back out, Ted and Stella get married, and Future Ted concludes, "And thats how I met your mother,"...to a couple of blonde kids. That may be Artistic License – Biology, but the point is Future Ted clearly believes that if he'd married Stella, their kids would be blonde. His kids aren't blonde, therefore Stella's not the Mother.
- Jossed In: Garbage Island.
- What Josses It: In 2021, Ted runs into Wendy the waitress for the first time in 10 years. She asks if he's still with Zoey. He laughs and says, no that didn't end well, but he's now married to a wonderful woman and has 2 kids. It doesn't get any more clearly Jossed than that.
- Victoria has nothing like any of the above. As you can see, this kind of Jossing is very simple and uncomplicated. It'd be very easy for the writers to wrap up at the end of The Autumn of Break Ups, with some reveal of what happened to Victoria afterwards, or even for Future!Ted to say, "I never saw her again." Instead, what we get from Future!Ted is some confirmed unfinished business: Robin will later find out that Ted broke up with Victoria over her.
- The closest F!T Jossing Victoria's ever gotten was in Farhampton where F!T confirms that Klaus is right about Big German Word I Have No Interest In Looking Up (BGWIHNIILU). So many people seem to take BGWIHNIILU to mean "Love at First Sight". But that's not what Klaus says of it. According to him, BGWIHNIILU isn't something that can gradually develop over time. It's something that comes over you all at once, and if it ever happens to you, you'll know. None of that automatically means it happens the first time you see your BGWIHNIILU. Ironically, during the BGWIHNIILU montage of Klaus' gushing, we see Marshall & Lily and Robin & Barney, 2 couples that we've seen had their share of doubts and breakups in their relationships to each other.
- One thing that's been fairly consistent about Victoria in her returns in these latest 2 seasons is that she brings up the idea that Ted's Robin fixation is unhealthy and is stunting any chance he has with any other woman. In both seasons, it's outright stated that Victoria really does have a point. Even here, Lily points out that this is still the same year Ted confessed to Robin he still loved her. Perhaps her wedding to Barney will finally free Ted of Robin once and for all, and it will be meeting Victoria again after that at the Farhampton station where BGWIHNIILU can occur all at once.
- I will not hold on to Victoria as the Mother no matter what. All I need to give up on it is the kind of simple, clear, unequivical F!T Jossing that Robin, Stella, and Zoey all had, and I will let go. That, or the Mother is finally revealed and it isn't Victoria. Whichever comes first.
- Jossed in the Season 8 Finale in the latter way, we see the Mother and it isn't Victoria. Except Ted hasn't met her yet, Future!Ted hasn't identified her as the Mother, and in the closing credits, she's billed not as "The Mother", but as "Girl with the Yellow Umbrella". This lack of evidence is nothing more than the feeble straws of hope that a dedicated Ted/Victoria or Ted/Anybody-Else shipper can clutch at. I for one will not grasp at these straws unless some specific evidence turns up that indicates this grirl with the yellow umbrella is not the Mother, and as of the Season 8 Finale, there is no such evidence.
- And those feeble straws caught fire, sank without a trace, and disintegrated in the Season 9 premiere as Lily meets the girl with the Yellow Umbrella and Future!Ted says, "And that's how Lily met your mother." IOW, Jossed.
Ted's future wife is a brunette, or at least can't be a blonde
When dating Elliot Reed
, We get a brief glimpse of what the future would be like if Ted had married her. Cue Ted telling his children how he met their mother. In this alternate future, BOTH children are blonde. Given that Ted's a brunette and blonde is a recessive gene, Ted needs to have one brunette gene and one blone gene. Seeing as both his children would end up being blondes, and in real life they are both brunettes, this should indicate that the real mother isn't a blonde, and probably should be dark-haired.
Though, of course, the genes are the loophole to this theory - Ted could very easily be married to a blonde en still get infinity brunette children. But, seeing as how this show likes to play with very subtle hints, this seems as good as any.
- That or a little thing called Hair Dye
Barney's half-sister is the mother.
When Jerry shows Barney the picture of his family, he points out his daughter Carly but we never actually see her, in the photo or at the family dinner. What we do know is that she's in college, which means she could be Cindy's roommate and may have been in the Econ class. And she probably lives in or near New York to be close to her family. Plus, how supremely ironic would it be if Ted marries Barney's sister after Barney tries so hard to hook up with Ted's?
- And if Barney gets married, Ted would be best man, and the sister would most likely be at the wedding.... Two plus two.
- In the season six finale "Challenge Accepted" it's revealed that Barney is the one getting married in "Big Days".
- It seems like a Red Herring which might actually mean that it isn't and viewing it as a Red Herring is the actual Red Herring part of it. Yeah.
- Interestingly, it would literally make Barney "Uncle Barney" to the kids, and Robin "Aunt Robin" if she's who Barney marries. Marshall and Lily would still be faux-family, of course.
- If the season finale of Season 7 ("The Magician's Code") is anything to go by, we may be seeing Jerome and his family again. Put two and two together...
- Jossed as of 8x14.
- Though Ted does sleep with her.
Barney or Robin already knows the mother.
- And she will come to their wedding, and meet Ted. While Ted goes off on tangents constantly, the overall story arc has always stuck to the concept that everything was significant: Ted dating Robin leads to their breakup, which leads to him getting the tattoo, which leads to him meeting Stella, which leads to him getting the job at the university, which presumably leads to him meeting the mother.
- But now, Robin and Barney's relationship is the A-plot of most episodes. This only makes sense if the story of how Barney and Robin got together, and grew to want a conventional relationship, is related to how Ted meets the mother.
- If not completely Jossed, extremely unlikely as of The Rough Patch.
- Though we still never know as they're starting to get ship teased again.
- If either of them knew a girl well-suited for Ted, wouldn't they have arranged an introduction years ago (if only to avert the endless cycle of drama resulting from Ted's active attempts to find love)?
- Not necessarily. Remember "The Scuba Diver"? Lily had a woman "on hold" for Ted for years because she didn't think he was "ready" yet. To be honest, her explanation did seem utterly forced but... well, it's not without precedent. Plus, it could be someone that is currently in a relationship, thus they wouldn't set her up with Ted.
- Probably true, as of the seventh season finale. Robin is marrying Barney at the wedding Ted meets the Mother. It hardly makes sense for them to have a stranger at their wedding, so...
- But on the other hand the 1st really serious girl Ted dated was Victoria, who was basicaly a stranger at a wedding.
- Wedding crashes.
- Extended family who are as good as strangers
- She's in the band. I kid you not.
- Semi-confirmed. Barney met the mother beforehand, and will probably recognize her because she's the one that told him to go after Robin with all he had.
He meets their mother
- Ted meets the kids' mother and conceives them.
Ted is their Mother.
- The show is his explaining to his children how he invented, or encountered the person who invented, the technology for male pregnancy.
- And that person would be Barney.
- If this is the correct theory, it has to be Barney. But Barney should be the "mother" because Ted can't meet himself.
- "Kids the thing you have to know about Uncle Barney..."
- Is that he's actually your mother?
- And thus the children were given massive complexes.
In the series finale, the mother (who has previously never appeared in the series) will walk in on whatever is happening, Future Ted will say "And that's how I met your mother
", and the series will end. We know for sure that their mother is not one of the characters Ted has met because, well, it's not called "How I Decided To Marry Your Mother."
- So, everything up to that point will have effectively been a Shaggy Dog Story? Yes!
- Except from when you tell about how you meet your significant other, you tell about the first time you meet, your first date, et cetera. Ted just has a huge amount of backstory.
- More or less confirmed. Word of God tells us that the mother will be part of the final arc of the last season.
- Semi-jossed and semi-confirmed. Ted does end up with the Mother (obviously) but she dies six years before he tells the story. The very last scene of the show basically shows Ted and Robin ending up together, so technically both the first girl (Robin) and the last girl (The Mother) win at different points.
Barney's "stalker" is Ted's future wife.
When Barney was being "stalked" by a woman telling his prospective dates that he was a jerk, they never revealed who she was. They only showed her from the back, and all we know is that she has blonde hair. At the end of the episode, Future Ted says to his kids that "Barney eventually found out who she was, but that's a different story." This still hasn't been resolved, so it's fairly obvious what the resolution will be.
- It was revealed that it was Britney Spears.
- So, Britney Spears is Ted's future wife.
Lily's teacher friend Jillian is the Mother
It was in the 4th season episode "Woo!" where we were introduced to Lily's friend Jillian. Jillian seemed to have met the entire gang EXCEPT Ted. It had been stated in episodes before that both Lily and Robin played a big role in the meeting of the Mother. Robin had become a bit of a Woo Girl, and Lily works with Jillian. Also, there's the Woo translation for Jillian which said, "What if I never get to be a Mom?" And she's a brunette, just like Ted and his children. Just some things to think about.
- Except at the end of the episode Jillian called "that Ted guy" cute, so she obviously met him, however briefly.
- This actually might work (at least from the standpoint of matchmaking). Jillian, when not woo-ing it up, was smart and loved her chosen field (much like Ted), and her woo-translation seems to echo Ted's own concerns and long-term desires. Also, "brief introduction while at least one of us was plastered" does not necessarily equate to "meeting." If they do get introduced at Barney's wedding, which would be years and years after a brief encounter during one drunken night in a long string of drunken nights, it would be a de facto "first meeting."
- Jillian is a teacher at Lily's school. In The Leap we find out the Mother was in the class Ted's shown lecturing at. Therefore, Jillian can't be the Mother.
- Not Jossed. People go back to school all the time.
- But it's unlikely that a 2nd grade teacher would have the time to go back to school, unless she was taking the classes during the night.
- Plus, why would a second grade teacher need to take classes on economics?
- Two possible answers? Jillian wants to own and operate her own childcare centre (it's not unheard of for educators to aspire to this) and is back in school to build up her financial know-how, or changes careers (it's not unheard of for teachers to switch careers when they lose their passion for teaching) without Lily telling any of the other characters.
- If Jillian did go to college, why would she live in student accommodation? She would already have a house and money saved up.
- The mother doesn't necessarily live in student accommodation, she just happens to have a roommate.
The Mother is a waitress at the bar.
Every episode of the show is supposed to be part of a story about how Ted met his children's mother. But the episodes don't have much in common - except that almost all of them have a scene in the same bar. Therefore it's a story about how Ted met their mother there.
- Jossed because she will be in his class the next season, and it is explicitly told that without him lecturing this class he wouldn't have met her.
- The reason he wouldn't meet her without lecturing his class is because she was in the Econ class he walked into on his first day.
- That josses a detail, not the theory.
- Except the show's title is "How I MET Your Mother", not "A Bunch of Random Stories Connected by MacLaren's Bar, Oh By the Way Your Mom Worked there All Along." Perhaps she could become a waitress there at some point, but Ted would not have told such a long story to his kids otherwise. Plus it's been stated that Robin was instrumental in meeting the mother, and Ted and co. have been going there since before they met her, and the producers set up each season so that idea of Robin being essential to meeting the mother could still stand up if the show got pulled suddenly. Future Ted just tends to ramble on and get distracted by unrelated stories.
- Completely Jossed as of "Garbage Island".
Tony's movie plays a key role in meeting the mother
In "Right Place Right Time", Future Ted goes on and on (and on) about how the events of the episode lead to meeting the mother. He runs into Stella at the end of the episode. We know she's
not the mother, since we see different children when he talks about what things would have been like if he married her. Moreover, in the very next episode ("As Fast As She Can"), he helps fix her marital problems with Tony and they're put on a plane
However, we know that Tony makes The Wedding Bride
, which is released in May 2010. You know, around the time the season finales happen. At the end of "As Fast As She Can", Future Ted promises to tell the story of that movie. It could be concluded that Ted meets the mother at a showing of the movie, or while renting the DVD.
- I had interpreted that little aside as meaning that the movie would actually be based in some way on Ted's life. Probably even based on the relationship between Tony and Stella, the title coming from Stella leaving Ted at the altar.
- Jossed. That meeting led to her husband getting him thinking about a teaching job, and he's stated that the mother was in that class.
- However, in S7 Ep!& No Pressure, the movie theatre is billing The Wedding Bride III. Ted mentions the movie they wanted to see was sold out. Again, though, this is only the first time Ted professed his love for her, but in the grand scheme of things this would play a part in the Mother becoming the Mother.
We will never see The Mother.
The series will end with Ted about to walk up to an offscreen woman and give her umbrella back.
- In "Girls vs. Suits" the mother gets her umbrella back, albeit due to Ted leaving it at her roommate's place. And we see her foot too.
- Jossed as of the last episode of Season 8. A woman who is clearly the Mother (with the umbrella Ted left at back her place in hand) asks for a ticket to Farhampton. She's played by Cristin Milioti.
- She has multiple speaking appearances in Season 9, meeting every member of the main cast before Ted and having fairly lengthy, deep conversations with them.
The Mother's name is Tracy.
In the first-season Thanksgiving episode, FutureTed has to tell his kids that he's joking after saying that the stripper who offered him a lap dance was their mother, which means introducing herself as "Tracy" didn't clue them in.
- Obviously there are a whole host of ways this could be wrong, from Ted not actually narrating the dialogue word-for-word to the kids being too shocked by the stripper thing to point out that the name is wrong. But it still bears mentioning.
- Or perhaps the kids thought Tracy may have been a stage name.
- She had given Ted a fake name, then (after he did nothing but tell her his name, which set up for the joke in his next line) immediately game him another name in a Stage Whisper. There's no reason to believe she told him her real name right there in the main area of the strip club.
- Confirmed in the series finale.
We saw her feet. Summer Glau
has feet. Boy, does she have feet.
The Mother is Ted's "Perfect match"
In the episode "Milk", Love Solutions finally found him a girl. We don't see her and her face on the photos is blurred. Now seriously, why on Earth would the creators go on such lengths to obscure her identity if she was just a girl? If she was only a one-shot character, she would probably have been shown (and Barney would probably have banged her pretending he was Ted). Solution: she is
the mother and the creators haven't found the actress to play her yet.
- Her face on the photos was blurred because Ted has no idea what she looked like. You can't remember the face of someone you've never seen. If you want a Doylist reason for the blurring, it's probably not the same person in all the photos.
- While I agree with the second poster in regards to that, I do think it's a possibility. Especially since in the season 8 premiere, while Ted is waiting at the train stop he's reading Love in the Time of Cholera, his favorite book. Which is also the Milkwoman's favorite book. Potential ice-breaker?
- Jossed. The Mother can't be the woman who was Ted's Match from Love Solutions. The Match was said to be 28 years old in 2005 while the Mother is 21 in that year. Moreover, at that time, she was mourning her late boyfriend and wasn't dating, let alone signed up in match-making company.
This season Ted will finally meet the mother.
But it will turn out that the mother hates Ted for some reason and the show's name will switch to "How I Won Your Mother".
The mother is going to be a massive letdown
Because with this level of build-up, how could she not
- Does seem very likely, but if they do it right it could work. One of the reasons Girls vs Suits is one of my favourite episodes (Aside from the song) is Ted finally tells us what made him fall in love with the mother, such as painting transformers and singing show tunes to muffins. If they focus on that rather than making her a Relationship Sue, we'll be good.
- She seems to be avoiding the Mary Sue fate as well. She gets reasonable backstory in "Bass Player Wanted", and appears to have Marshall's problem of being so nice that she avoids all confrontation, although that may be an Informed Flaw.
- The guess is about an Audience Reaction, so it cannot be confirmed or jossed. However, the word in the fandom has it that Cristin Milioti nailed the character and that she was one of the best things in season 9.
Just to add some horror to this WMG page...
Robin is the one who introduces Ted to the mother, or is in some way essential to when they marry
That's why the story starts with her and also when they dated. Either Robin is how they meet or she gives Ted advice while he's dating the mother, or gives her advice on what to expect from Ted. She may also be the one helps to fix up a big fight or something.
- The story begins there because that's the night he decided he was ready to get married. It just happens to coincide with the night he met Robin.
- Sort of confirmed. The mother is the bassist for the band at Robin and Barney's wedding.
The Mother is the girl Ted bumped in to at the St. Paddy's day party.
Think I'm on to something. a) She's at the party and b) I'm pretty sure she had a line in the episode, extras with speaking parts get paid more that's why they generally don't speak. Why have her speak if she's not important? Why have Ted bump in to someone at all?
- This is the going theory so far: sharp-eyed viewers have noted that her outfit matches the one worn by the woman in line with the yellow umbrella.
- Word of God: a Red Herring.
- When did Bays & Thomas say that?
- Ted states that he never met the mother that night because she probably would've hated him. Therefore, Word of God.
- ... how is that Word of God?
- At the end of 'No Pressure' a bunch of girls with yellow umbrella's walk past Ted - the first one that passes him is wearing the same hat as The Mother was at the beginning of the episode and while it's too blurry to tell for sure from what I can see she looks a lot like the girl that Ted bumped into...
Ted gets the mother pregnant on the first date
They will most likely hold off introducing the mother until the last season, possibly towards the end of that season. And it has been stated that the series will last 8 seasons in total, meaning it will end in 2013. By my best estimates the kids are around 15 and 16 in 2030 meaning that the oldest was born in 2014. So if the show does wait to reveal the mother until the end, there won't be much time for a courtship and marriage. So Ted will probably meet the mother, fall madly in love with her at first sight
and then get her pregnant on the first date. This would also explain why he finally quit smoking two weeks into dating her. He found out she was pregnant and decided to give up smoking for real because he is going to be a dad.
- Seeing as Ted will meet the mother at Barney's wedding, and it's very strongly hinted that his wedding is in season 7 (possibly, even probably, the finale), they're probably going to give the mother some development and some sort of romance arc with Ted during season 8. However, this still doesn't leave a whole lot of time for them before mid-2013 (the latest estimate for the daughter's conception if we lowball her age) which would take place around the end of season 8. It would be unsatisfying for Ted and the Mother to rush through engagement, wedding, and kids that fast for no reason (especially given what happened with Stella), so the best way to forcibly shorten the pre-kids story enough to make the daughter's age plausible would be for Ted to knock her up before they get married...though perhaps not before they get engaged. And Barney's wedding can't take place before June 2012, because Lily's not pregnant in the flashforward to his wedding, and since she conceived at the end of August, her due date is in late May-to-June.
- "Trilogy Time" reveals that Ted's daughter is an infant in 2015. Assuming that the dates in universe roughly match the dates IRL, Trilogy Time happens every three years around April. Therefore, she would have been born around February or March 2015, meaning she was conceived in either May or June 2014. If Barney's wedding takes place in 2013 (in May, around the time of the season finale, at the latest), there is still enough time for Ted to date the mother for about a year, marry her and get her pregnant soon after. Or get her pregnant and then marry her, but definitely not during their first date.
Ted actually marries Zoe.
But it's discovered that Zoe is infertile. Still Zoe and Ted both still want to have kids, so the person Ted meets at the wedding is the "mother" who is artificially inseminated with Ted's sperm. Thus, Zoe can be Ted's wife and the "mother" has not been met yet. Furthermore, the reason The Captain divorced Zoe was because of the infertility.
- Jossed. In a flashforward/back Ted tells the waitress from Mc Claren's that it ended pretty badly between them. Now we've just gotta watch and find out how.
The Mother is Nora
Nora is a little like Robin but a lot more romantic at heart. She is also seen wearing yellow (which seems to be a color motif for The Mother), hasn't been grandly introduced like others have been (i.e. Zoey, Victoria, etc), Robin does play a pretty big role in the whole meeting of the Mother. So my theory is that Barney and Nora do date for a few, but during that time, he realizes that he actually still loves Robin. After a while, Nora and Barney do remain friendly for the most part and she is invited to the Barney and Robin wedding where Ted finally meets The Mother. Also I think it'd be interesting that Ted saw Robin first and fell for her but she ended up dating Barney so Barney meeting Nora first and all would be really interesting sort of reversal.
- Jossed. Nora and Ted met at Mc Claren's, not the wedding.
- Nora marries Barney: He has not lost interest in her, and there's no way Ted wouldn't be his best man.
- Except that Barney sleeps with Robin, figures out that she's his soulmate and breaks up with Nora. And we still don't know who the bride is.
The mother is Barney's half-sister.
- They're both in college, and... that's pretty much it. Barney really is Uncle Barney, it's not just an honorary title like with the others, and after the wedding they really are bros.
- And Barney would hold it over Marshall's head forever as a reason why he's Ted's real best friend.
- Jossed in Season 8 "Ring Up!" where Ted dated this slightly younger than 21 year old who had a fetish for older men. He doesn't get much connection from her except for being a R 2 D 2 fan. Then, Barney find out that he's dating his half-sister, Carly. Amusingly, he tries to force them into marrying each other just to get over his detox on one-night stands.
The Mother's name is Tori
- This is based on my theory that there is also one more Robin Sparkle's song to come:
- In the song "Let's Go to the Mall" the opening lyrics are, "Come on Jessica, come on Tori... Let's go to the mall, etc." We've already met Jessica Glitter back in "Glitter" so it would make sense that at some point we will meet Tori.
- Makes sense. Plus, if Robin was the singer and Jessica was the keyboardist, surely Tori would be a guitarist/bassist... like the mother.
- Ted will meet her at Robin's wedding, which will be to ugly-shirt guy that was introduced in the Season 6 episode, "Hopeless." As we know, Ted will be the best man, and it would make sense for Robin to introduce him to significant people from her past.
The Mother's name is Miriam.
The Mother will provide the series-ending recap.
She tells the kids how Ted's life and hers were inextricably intertwined from her
side of things, tying together the Foreshadowing
from throughout the series... In about five to seven minutes, of course.
- Or, alternately, her recollection will be even more long-winded. The last words of the series will be "how I met your father."
There have already been an incredible number of appearances from Whedonverse alums on the show: Alyson Hannigan and Neil Patrick Harris in the main cast and Alexis Denisof, Morena Baccarin, Tom Lenk, Danny Strong, Amy Acker as guests. How great would it be to have Kaylee as the mother?
- Alternately, it's Sarah Michelle Gellar.
The mother is Blah Blah.
Ted was just messing with the kids by telling them he didn't remember the name of the girl he was telling the story about.
Ted will lie or has already lied about the Mother's name.
And thinks that his kids are getting bored and might cut him off if they realize the story is going on longer than strictly necessary.
Barney's cousin, Leslie, is the Mother
Leslie from "Okay Awesome" shows that Leslie
- goes to clubs - The yellow umbrella was found at a club
- did not meet Ted at that time - therefore she is a candidate for Mother-hood
- is Barney's cousin - therefore would probably be invited to the wedding
- would make the "Okay Awesome" story *so* much funnier
When Ted says he met the mother at a wedding, he is speaking figuratively.
The mother is either someone he already knows, but not well (such as Nora), or someone he was introduced to briefly in the past (such as Lily's teacher friend Jillian). "Meeting her" means that he started really getting to know her at/after the the wedding, or that he had the kind of perception-shift that made him view her as a potential romantic partner.
The Mother is one of Robin's friends that she was hanging out with in the Pilot
This group of friends is brought up on the first episode and then never seen again. The only purpose they seem to have is to give Robin an excuse to throw a drink in Ted's face and cut their time short. Plus it makes sense as to why they would be at the wedding (this theory makes more sense if Robin's the bride).
Whoever the Mother is, she will be the one to propose to Ted
Not only would it be a pretty hilarious way to end a series about a guy who is determined to find a wife, but it will basically allow things to be a total surprise to the audience. The series can really only end with either Ted in a relationship where he eventually proposes (little to no suspense) or he simply meets some woman and ends it with "and that, kids, is how I met your mother" (which just feels cheap). If he's the one proposed to, it allows him to have at least several potential women chasing after him while he decides, and just when you think he's made his decision, BAM, he gets proposed to.
- I doubt they do that, but that would be pretty cool if they did.
Either Barney or Robin will be the one to introduce Ted to the Mother
I'm calling it now - Season 7 will end with either Robin or Barney tapping the Mother on the shoulder and saying "Haaaave you met Ted?"
Quinn the Stripper is both Barney's Mystery Bride and The Mother
And Ted doesn't actually meet her until Barney's wedding.
- Ted has at least seen Quinn, if not met her, at the Lusty Leopard where she works. She could still be the bride, but Future Ted doesn't refer to her as "Aunt Quinn" in the voiceover. Doesn't discredit that theory though, considering the sentence her name was mentioned ("Barney met a girl called Quinn" would be valid even if she were Aunt Quinn).
- Jossed. Ted meets Quinn properly (as in, actually talks to her etc.) at a dinner held by her and Barney.
Since Robin hurt Barney, she's going to have to apologize and win him back.
Then she'll propose to him, and is thus The Bride!
Ted never met the children's mother.
Rather, he kidnapped the children from a random house and took them back to his house to tell them a story about his now dead friends. The children are playing along because they know the police are on their way.
Because the writers dont have a good track record when it comes to the main cast longer relationship partners,
- Ted: Stella became one when she left Ted at the alter. And Zoe is a Relationship Sue with jerkass moment with her even betraying Ted on tearing down a building. And this happen when they d became a couple.
- Robin: Don is another Relationship Sue with all the gang saying how perfect he is for Robin. Even though the first time he showed up he was a jerk.
- Barney: While Nora gets spared this hate, mostly, Quinn is this to most fans as she is introduced late to the seven season and having Barney instantly falling for her, while it took him multiple episodes for him to fall in love with Robin and Nora.
- I'm not sure I agree... While Don and Zoe definitely count, Stella only became a Scrappy after they broke up. While they were together she was pretty well-received. Plus you're overlooking Robin herself, as well as Victoria. And Kevin was quite well-received as well. And I think you're playing Quinn's scrappiness up...
- Playing up Quinn's scrappiness would be tough to do.
The mother drives a silver Toyota Rav-4.
One has shown up in the background for a disproportionate number of shots throughout the seasons. Logically, probably just a stock car they have on the set, but who knows, the show is pretty much Continuity Porn
The Mother will be played by Lyndsy Fonseca
Yes the actress who plays Leia, Luke seems alot like Ted physicaly so it stands to reason
that Leia looks like the mother
, and who looks more like Lyndsy Fonseca then Lyndsy Fonseca?
- Absolutely not. That would be beyond creepy.
The kids are adopted, Ted is a single father
- Ted is making up the entire plot as an entertaining story for his kids, all about a mother that they don't have. Yeah, it's a Shocking Swerve of a twist ending, but with the amount of buildup to this reveal, there's no way they can come close to living up to the hype by playing it straight. Given how little is known about the situation with Future Ted as he tells the story, something like this is quite possible. It may not pan out like that, but I'm banking on some form of twist finale.
The Mother is Robin's sister
- That is why Ted refers to her as "Aunt Robin".
The Mother is a guitarist at the wedding
- She has been shown to play bass guitar and is carrying a guitar case at the end of Season 8, episode 1.
- Confirmed. In Season 8, episode 13 'Band or DJ?' future Ted says that the mother was in fact the bass guitarist at Barney and Robin's wedding. They were hired at the last minute to replace the band that had cancelled when Ted ran into Cindy on the subway.
The show will end without the mother being revealed
The Mother is the "bimbo" Robin told Ted to stop texting in "The Magician's Code, Part II"
- Because it would be a retroactively-hilarious development for one of Ted's random would-be hookups to actually be The One, instead of Victoria (who in that episode was built up as the only real potential "Miss Right" of the series). (One has to feel sorry for Victoria, since she's been dangled as a romantic false lead twice in this series and, presumably, for a final time come Season 8's premiere.)
The Mother has absolutely nothing to do with the Season 8 Wedding
She just happened to be playing bass/buying a new bass in Farhampton on the day of the Wedding, and was finished doing this around the same time as the wedding ended. She was in the right place at the right time (the idea of being in the 'right place at the right time' was the focus of an entire episode).
This is based mostly on the fact that she arrived at the same train station as Ted only a short while after he did in the Season 8 premier. If she were a relative, she wouldn't have brought her bass to the wedding. If she were playing at the wedding, wouldn't she have left with the rest of the band? And, if Ted had seen the bassist start packing up her gear when he was about to leave, wouldn't he stay to help?
The Mother is Brooke/Tracy the Stripper.
Quite simple: Brooke really was the mother, just like Future!Ted said. She stripped for a while, took up art and bass guitar and went to college to study economics. For a start, she's a brunette, which makes her a possibility. And, while Ted has already met her, she's changed a lot in that time, just like Ted has.
The season 8 new character named Jeanne (Played by Abby Elliot) is The Mother
So far she is described as "the craziest girl the HIMYM gang has ever encountered. And the strange, inexplicable phenomenon is: the crazier Janeane gets, the more attractive one of the gang finds her." One of the members = Ted. You get the idea. note
The mother will be played by Seth Green in drag
He is said to be appearing on the show soon.
- Probably Jossed, Seth Green played an old college acquaintance of Marshall and Lily in "The Final Page".
The mother is dead.
That's why Ted is going into so much detail, and is being so revealing about past relationships.
- Also in the 'Time Travelers', when Ted talks to the mother at her apartment in his 'if I only knew I would have...' scenario he's practically in tears.
- Moreover, notice how she's never seen in flash-forward scenes. In fact, the only time she's ever mentioned in 2020 is when an inquiry is made into her whereabouts at the class reunion in “How I Met Everyone Else.”
- Wouldn't that make the kids look like complete jerkasses for complaining about being sat down to hear the story?
- Possibly a bit of fridge brilliance: if she had died recently, it could be possible the kids are simply using sarcasm as a way to deal with their grief, and don't want to talk about their dead mother just yet.
- Also, were this to happen the fans would riot. But hints are being dropped that this may be the case. Big hints.
- Cast reactions to the final episode indicate this might be the case. Plus the episode "Vesuvius" ends with Ted tearing up when the mother mentions "what kind of mother would miss her daughter's wedding" indicating that she might have a terminal illness and not make her daughter's wedding.
- I currently lean on the side of "She's Still Alive", and here's why. They filmed the final scene that involves Future!Ted and his kids 7 years ago. No matter how careful you are it's pretty damn hard to keep a secret that big for 7 years. Plus, although a lot of their continuity is pre-planned, it clearly wasn't all invented right away. Some of is invented as they go along. And since there was no foreshadowing at all for another 4-6 seasons, so I really doubt that 7 years ago they'd already decided for sure she'd be dead before knowing basically anything else about that time frame.
- Another theory about the framing device for "Vesuvius" is that the Mother is already dead by that point and Ted is talking to a figment of his imagination. This theory is supported by the fact that Ted looks much older during those scenes, but the Mother still looks young.
- BZZT! Wrong! The concierge talks to both Ted and the Mother when he comes by the table at the start of the episode.
- Female vanity? However, Ted's speech in "Time Travelers" says he'll love her after he's gone—which adds the implication he's the dead one. However, it's possible either his or the Mother's mother didn't go to their wedding or died before it. Hoping that's true, because wouldn't it be a slap in the face to end a comedy series with a tragedy?
- Confirmed in the series finale; at the time Ted's telling the story, the mother's been dead for six years due to an undisclosed illness.
Ted Doesn't Know the Mother (Yet)
Okay, so hear me out. Ted isn't actually telling the story to his kids. Instead, at random times he decides to think about how he plans to tell the story to his future kids, and that's what we're seeing. So, he'll be sitting around and begin thinking about how he would sum up recent events to his future kids. This is why the story is taking so long - he still hasn't met the mother, so he has to keep filling it in with other goings-on. After all, his story has lasted hours, and I can't imagine anyone doing that to their kids. It also explains why "Future Ted" is voiced by Bob Saget - everyone hears themselves differently than how others hear them, so that's how Ted sounds when he's thinking to himself. It also explains the inconsistencies about how he censors some things, but not others - it's hard to stay consistant when you're just imagining things over a long period of time.
Ted will meet The Mother in the eighth season finale.
The ninth season will be 
describing how everything Ted told throughout the show leads up to him meeting The Mother. Interspersed amongst all this will be moments when we see how these events are described by The Mother from how she encountered them, thus redeeming Ted for such a longwinded story.
The Mother will be played by Cristin Milioti
I say this because I'm a brilliant, gifted psychic. I definitely didn't post this on the day after the episode where she first appeared as the Mother aired.
The reason Future-Ted is telling his children this long tale is because their mother died recently
This is entirely based on something Future-Ted's comment that if he knew where the mother was he'd tell her he wants "those extra 45 days". While its a sweet and typically Ted thing to say, it seems like something one would say at a graveside
The Mother's name is Amie Darla or some (less ugly) similar sounding name to Padme Amidala
That's how he convinces her to name the kids Luke and Leia.
- Alternatively, her name will be Natalie, after Padme's actress.
- It can't be a Natalie. Ted already dated a girl with that name.
The Mother's name will be Leia or Carrie
Similar logic to previous wmg, but this time based on how Ted's daughter turned out not to be named Leia but Penny. So Ted didn't name her Leia because that name was already used by The Mother.
- Jossed. Her name is Tracy.
Barney had Ted run those utterly horrible plays in "Weekend at Barney's" because he had already set up Ted's meeting the mother
First, my apologies if this is in the wrong folder.
We all know that Barney can pull off a Batman Gambit
, and that he pays more attention to what his friends say that what it could seem. It's possible that he knew that Cindy's roommate had a ton in common with Ted. He set it up so the mother's band would be free that exact weekend, and somehow got the band that was hired to cancel. What does that have to do with those horrible plays? Barney couldn't risk Ted having a date at the wedding.
Barney and Robin will eventually break up. The Mother will die at some point, and Future Ted will get together with Robin.
This theory is a combination of several Wild Mass Guesses from this page, as well as some other observations. Here's why I think things will go down this way:
- 1) Barney has mentioned that he wants kids. Robin can't have kids, and doesn't want kids. This contradiction already ended the relationship between Kevin and her, and it'll probably lead to Barney and her breaking up too. Though most likely there are other reasons for the breakup as well, such as Barney's inability to stop lusting after other women, as seen in the final few episodes of season 8.
- 2) In all of the flashforwards where we see future Robin, she either doesn't have a wedding ring, or her ring finger is obscured, so we don't see whether it has a ring. The latter applies to the flashforwards in the 8th season episode "Bad Crazy", even though by this point Barney has already proposed to Robin. Now, why would they do that, unless it'd be a spoiler for Robin not to wear a ring? This implies Robin and Barney will eventually divorce, or they won't get married in the first place.
- 3) Even though Ted supposedly got over pining after Robin after season 7, the final couple of episodes of season 8 reveal that there still is something between them. Would the writers really want to do another "Ted still loves Robin, but eventually gets over it, and gives his blessing to Barney and Robin" plot development during season 9, even though they did the same thing during season 7 and early season 8? No, the hints in the last two episodes point to a future development where Robin and Ted actually get back together.
- 4) The scene in "The Time Travelers" where Future Ted imagines traveling back to 2013 and meeting The Mother clearly hints that The Mother is dead by the time Future Ted is telling the story. Why else would Future Ted get all teary-eyed, wishing he'd have 45 more days or even 45 more seconds with The Mother?
- 5) How I Met Your Mother is not the sort of show that would end on a sad note. If The Mother will die, Ted will mourn for her, but he will ultimately find a new love. It seems extremely unlikely that, after The Mother, the show would introduce a second new love interest for Ted during season 9. So Ted's new love would have to be someone we already know, and Robin is obviously the most likely candidate.
- 6) It's now revealed that The Mother is a totally incidental character, and doesn't really have anything to do with Robin. So why does Future Ted start the incredibly long story he's telling to kids from the point where he first met Robin, even though the story is supposed to be about The Mother? Because he also wants to explain to the kids why he, after The Mother has died, would get back together with Aunt Robin, and to explain that he needs to recount their history together.
- 7) Ted's favourite book ever is Love in the Time of Cholera. Now, what is the plot of that book? It's about a man and a woman who fall in love when they're young, but end up in relationships with other people, until they finally get back together when they're old. Maybe choosing this as Ted's favourite book is the writers' way of hinting how the stories of Ted and Robin will ultimately end?
This theory was originally written after season 8, so here's a few updates to it, made after the 9th season episode "Vesuvius".
- A lot of things in "Vesuvius" hint that the Mother has terminal illness in 2024, most notably the fact that Ted starts crying after she says, "What kind of mother would miss her daughter's wedding?". The reason Ted starts to cry is because he knows the mother won't live long, and thus won't see the wedding of her daughter (who's only 9 or 10 at this point).
- Some people have suggested that the reason Ted starts crying is because his own mother died before his wedding. However, the comment that makes him cry is "her daughter's wedding", not "her son's" or "her child's". Also, since we know that Ted proposes the Mother in 2015, it seems they've been married for almost 10 years now, meaning Ted's mother would've died before that, so it's a bit odd if something that happened so long ago makes Ted cry now.
- Also, when the Mother makes this remark and Ted gets watery-eyed, she doesn't immediately apologise and backtrack like you would if you'd upset someone you love. Instead, she starts to tear up too (unlikely unless she and Ted's mother were super close) and changes the subject to a happier one.
- However, there's also the theory that his mother died before Heather's wedding, which could've been recent.
- Another theory is that the Mother is seriously ill in 2024, and Ted thinks she might die, but in the end she doesn't. However, this doesn't jibe with Ted's ominous monologue in "The Time Travelers". It's the 2030 Ted who gives the monologue, and even if the Mother was ill in 2024, she should've gotten over the illness by 2030, so why is Ted still speaking as if she's dead? The monologue makes much more sense if the Mother died in 2024, or soon afterwards.
- In "Vesuvius", the Mother says they shouldn't get stuck in spinning old yarns and revisiting in the past, but instead focus on what's important now. Her worry is understandable if she knows she's about to die: she doesn't want Ted to get stuck with her memory, she wants him to keep on going forward even after she's dead.
- However, getting stuck in memories is exactly what happens Ted. We know that by 2030 he's telling endless stories to his kids about the past, when he was still a happy man. The reason the kids are willing to just sit on the sofa and listen to these stories is because they feel sorry for their dad. They know that the only thing that still brings him joy is revisiting the better days of his past.
- Or this could be the last story Ted tells his kids, which is why it's so detailed- it encompasses all his other stories. He took the Mother's words to heart, and is telling the most important story to his kids now, as closure before he starts "moving forward".
- By 2030 Robin and Barney have been divorced. Robin comes to realize how sad Ted's life has become, and she tries to pull him out of his memories, so he can yet again start living in the present, just like the Mother wanted. Robin eventually succeeds in this, and during that process the love between him and Ted is rekindled. Finding Robin for the second time helps Ted to finally get over the death of the mother, just like finding Ted helped the Mother get over the boyfriend of hers who had died years earlier.
- It breaks my heart to say this, but...Confirmed.
The mother's name is "Tess", or alternatively "Tessa".
She looks like she would be one. Just putting this out there because, well, you never know....
We wont learn the mothers name
8 seasons of talk plus 3 appearances and still no name
- Alternatively we wont learn her name until Ted meets her
The Mother's name is Padme
- What with the kids being Luke and Leia you know Ted would love it. Bonus points if she starts calling him 'Anakin'
The Mother's name is Daisy
- The last episode of the season is called "Daisy." Also, she looks like a Daisy.
- It would be a great call back to the first episode where Ted pulls a big lavish party to try and impress Robin, and Marshall calls him " The Great Gatsby." Why? What girl did Gatsby hopelessly pine after and go to great lengths to woo? Daisy.
- If not yet Jossed, extremely unlikely as of the episode "Daisy." Daisy is the name of Marshall and Lily's daughter
The Mother's name is Gary Blauman
- The episode after "Daisy" is called "Gary Blauman." Though I can't say she looks like a Gary Blauman.
Robin knew the Mother before Barney did
- Robin had already known the mother, as well as her phone number, before Barney met her. While providing Barney with challenges, Robin called the mother and told her to go to the store Barney went in hopes of Barney not fulfilling a challenge. Her cheering up after Barney tells the story means that her plan for Barney to fail a challenge led to him deciding to marry her.
The Mother's name is Rose.
- La Vie en Rose. The life of Rose. Ergo, her name is Rose.
- "La vie en rose" means "life in pink" ("rose" being the French word for pink). The song is about seeing life "in rosy hues" when you're in love, it's not about any person named Rose. "The Life of Rose" would translate to "La vie de Rose".
The Mother comes from a rich family.
- How do you explain then that she was able to start a degree in Economics at Columbia at age 24-25? Getting a student loan at that age, for that career while having an artistic background, can't be easy.
- Not really that hard. The ability to get student loans has nothing to do with your background(in that sense) Also once you reach a certain age you are considered an indepdendent student and they do not consider your parents finances in determining how much you are elgibible for meaning you can potentially borrow more money. So her age and previous education background shouldn't have been a hindrance to federal loans anyway. Of course Columbia is an expensive school and there are limits to how much you can borrow so maybe she made up the difference with scholarships or a work study.
We will see Ted and The Mother's wedding in the series
Given the fact it's clear by now the Farhampton Inn has a particular importance to them as we know they'll come back at least 3 times now, It seems more than likely they'll marry in Farhampton too, so we'll see at least some of the wedding.
The Mother died of an STD given to her by Ted.
- Or perhaps Barney at some unknown point.
The Mother was murdered by Robin
Having never quite gotten over Ted, and left lonely after her divorce from Barney, Robin carefully sets up a plan to poison the Mother slowly, eventually replacing her as Ted's true love.
How Time Travellers and Vesuvius could be factored into the official alternate ending where the Mother lived
For Time Travellers, it can be said that he wishes he knew Tracy earlier and wanted their relationship to last even longer, rather than wishing he was with her a few more days before her death. For Vesuvius, Tracy got sick and, at the moment that scene happened, it looked like she would die. Then she, against all odds, got better sometime after 2022. So now, eight years after the scare, Ted tells his kids about how scared he was at the time about losing Tracy.
Future Ted, The Kids, and other things from 2030
The last of the final season will give us a twist ending regarding Ted and/or Robin's relationship.
Over the course of the final Season the show keeps bringing up certain plot points about how Barney and Robin's wedding is so going to happen and flat out states on how Ted does find the Mother and will meet with her soon. The show keeps on implying that all 3 of them will be having such a harmoniously perfect happy ending in the future. But call me a cynic but there is a chance that one or both of these plots will come to an end in a BitterSweet
or Downer Ending
. This can go in one of 3 ways...
A. The Mother dies and Barney and Robin's Marriage doesn't last.
This is going by the theory that the Mother is dead when Future!Ted tells his kids about the story about their mother. But Ted is not alone in which he and Robin got back together and stayed that way this time as Robin is their step-mom. You might be asking "Then why does Ted keep referring to Robin as their Aunt"? Simple Ted and Robin got back together recently at this point but the kids are not quite comfortable with the idea of referring Robin as their mother yet. Besides it would explain why Ted's severely "off and on" relationship with Robin became such a recurring plot point despite on how the story is supposed to be about how he finds their mother.
B. The Mother dies but Barney and Robin do stay Married.
The Mother died recently but Ted is a widower and a single dad and like other widowers plans to stay single. Ted will openly claim that he is perfectly fine with staying single (but is secretly quite depressed about it and how all of his relationships ended over the years.)
C. The Mother lives but Barney and Robin's marriage doesn't last.
Conversely the Mother does live and everything stays fine between her and Ted. However Barney and Robin's marriage ends and sadly this time they decided to stay away from each other. The show will then end with Robin and/or Barney being incredibly depressed about their severe relationship issues over the course of the series.
- A is the right answer as the mother has been dead for a few years in the Future!Ted timeline and Barney and Robin divorce after 3 years of marriage. Instead of being uncomfortable about the idea, his kids encourage him to go after Robin, which he does.
The kids aren't real
Ted is doing the same thing that Robin did in Symphony of Illumination
, talking to imaginary figures to work through his problems. He ends up with Robin by compromising his desire to have kids, and years later starts to regret it. So he starts to create a world inside his head where they didn't end up together, and instead he marries the roommate of a girl he dated once who seemed perfect just through the few tangential items he came in contact with. The series ends with the kids fading out, and Robin sitting down on the couch oblivious to the thought process going through Ted's head. Drunk Train foreshadows this with Robin's speech to Kevin about really, really, REALLY being sure of what he wants.
Future Ted died after the pilot episode and is telling this all via video
Why else wouldn't the kids start discussing whats happening with there dad or call him out on telling them inappropriate stuff (him telling them about the threesome comes to mind come on who else whats to hear that from there parents) but instead he died and is telling them all this as some sort of video last will and testament.
This is also why the kids keep on watching even though he's been talking for so long out of a sign of respect.
No matter who the mother is, at the end of the series Future Ted will get a major calling out for how inconsistent and drawn out the story was.
This will most likely be done by the children, but certain other characters such as the Mother will probably participate in this as well.
- Barney, Robin, Lily, and Marshall will all be there and reveal that Ted made up a lot of the story to be dramatic. There was no GNB, Marshall went back to the same company he originally worked for with Arthur as his boss. The company is either Altrucell or was bought by Altrucell. Barney didn`t sleep with over 200 women and always kinda wanted to get married but didn't think it would happen so he hid behind his womanising personality. Ted didn't have a crush on Robin when he first met her and they did not live together for more than a year (are we really supposed to believe that they couldn't live together peacefully while they were dating, but after the breakup they lived together for years?). Future Ted doesn't want to talk about her moving out because it was too painful. Lily and Marshall broke up for a longer time than depicted and it was much more tramuatic (notice how they frequently ignore that it happened and say they`ve been together since first week of college) and they were trying to have a baby since the beginning of season 4 but kept having fertility problems. The story of how Ted met the mother is actually very simplistic and would've happened with or without the yellow umbrella or her being in the economics class he stumbled into. We all know Ted wouldn`t let the truth get in the way of a good story.
Ted's kids' names are....
Luke and Leia. Or Leah. Either way, it would be an homage to Ted's love for Star Wars (Marshall: "Ted loves Star Wars. He watches it in sickness and in health, in good times and bad, etc...) and when told to "swear on his unborn kids", he says "I swear on Luke and Leia". Given how Ted's ideal woman is practically himself, the mother would probably be fine with naming the kids Luke and Leia. Of course, the kids would never forgive them. And this point has been brought up before with Barney (or was it Marshall? Sorry, memory slipping) wanting to name the Eriksen baby "Hurricane" and Lily objecting.
- Even Ted wouldn't be insensitive enough to actually give his kids Star Wars character names for their first names. Much like Lily and Marshall, he and the Mother will give them Luke and Leia as middle names. The daughter's name will be Cynthia, after Cindy, because of the important role she played in getting Ted and the Mother together, and because Ted wouldn't name the kids after his friends, and neither would the Mother.
- Semi-Jossed. The son's name is Luke, the daughter's name is Penny.
People hear themselves differently then others do and the future portions are from Teds POV therefore the deeper voice is how Ted hears himself
The kids from the future are androids.
Ted doesn't really want
kids. He just loves the idea of the perfect romantic fantasy, where he marries a beautiful woman and has two beautiful kids and a beautiful dog who all live in a beautiful house that he designed. At some point in the future, he gives up on the whole "perfect" thing and decides that having real kids would be a lot of work, since he doesn't have a bride to share the raising of two kids with. So, he has a pair of robot kids created. It's not considered unusual, since having androids is the 2030 equivalent of playing The Sims.
He then fills in their memory so that they have more than just the basic programming of human behaviour. He has to input the data the old fashioned way so that they will "learn" from it the same way as a human child would. They will pick up behavioral patterns based on their "father" and his friends. He lives with Robin, Marshal and Lily as well as the woman who built his kids. She is now a close friend, having joined the group the same way as Robin did. Barney still has an anti-relationship apartment somewhere else but close-by.
The story of how Ted met their mother is really the story of how he met and got to know the woman who would build them, so we have at least two decades left to go.
- Well, the mother does like to paint robots playing volleyball... oh my God...
Ted isn't really the father.
Ted isn't really the father of the two children. After he meets their mother, they become really close, and he becomes their Honourary Uncle
. Ted could technically marry to anyone on the show.
- Ted doesn't even say that he's married to their Mom. Could be that Robin is their step-mom and they just call her 'Aunt' Robin because she's so uncomfortable with the idea of having kids.
- He does mention their wedding at one point.
- It is also stated that Robin eventually made her peace with children. As well, the kids seemed shocked and appalled that Ted and Robin had ever been a couple.
- They call him "Dad" in the second season opening when they complain that it feels like he's been telling the story for a year and ask him to skip ahead. Given modern (and postmodern) family dynamics, though, that doesn't discredit this theory at all.
The Children are adopted.
- In a surprise twist, Ted isn't the children's biological father; he adopted them from a woman he meets very briefly.
- Alternately, Ted and their mother were never even involved. He just babysits because he is the only person in the group who has no life (aside from Barney, who dies, see below), and the Honorary Uncle titles were from their mother's friendship with the group.
- Alternately, they're Lily's and Marshall's kids, who's parents died in a car crash between the end of the series and the "present" in the framing sequence. "Met" is a metaphor for "came to know and understand", and How I Met Your Parents would give away that he's not their dad. Ted and Robin take care of the kids, with the occasional help of Barney, who settles down somewhat (but not entirely).
- They couldn't be Lily and Marshall's kids. Ted told the kids how Marshall opened Lily's letter that was supposed to be opened after her death "last year," as in a year before Ted tells the kids the story, so why couldn't he just call them "your mom and dad"? They would know who their parents were in that case...
- But even then it's a dead end for this theory because Lily turns out to be just fine, not dead.
- They are called aunt Lily and uncle Marshall many times in the stories, so Jossed.
- Not necessarily. Looking at the simple structure of the title only tells how Ted met the mother of the kids. That would like me saying to you, "Did I tell you how I met your mother?" This is not "How I met your mother, fell in love with her, married her and had you two little bastards." Which leads me to...
- They call Future Ted "dad" at least once. Like in the second episode, where Ted tells Robin he loves her, and his daughter goes "oh, Dad..."
- And in the Perfect Week episode, he asks them in the end if he's a "bad Dad", so Ted's definitely the father. We have proof!
The biological mother of the children and the woman Ted marries may not necessarily be the same person.
- As mentioned earlier, this is a story about how Ted met the mother of the two kids in the opening scene. This is not "How I Met My Wife." This leads to several possible scenarios:
- (The Most Obvious) Ted's wife is the mother of the children
- Ted and his wife are unable to have children and this is how they met the biological mother of the kids
- Ted's kids are not biologically his, but this is how he met their mother, which could be
- His current wife
- His ex-wife
- The woman they view as a mother figure
- This seems Jossed as of "Girls vs. Suits." Future Ted says Cindy's roommate was both the kids' mother and the woman he married.
Ted has been dead for years.
- The man telling the story to the children is obviously not Ted - their voices are completely different. But he's representing himself as Ted in the story and pretending to be the children's biological father. The easiest explanation is that Ted died when the children were very young, long enough ago that they have no real memory of him. Their mother married the story-telling man soon afterwards and convinced them that he was their father, either to spare them trauma or for some more sinister purpose. Robin, Marshall, and Lily are in on the deception too, as the children have met them without the secret being revealed.
- In the fifth episode of season 3, we see Ted alive and well during the mid 2020s, when the children would have been about ten; and the photo in the den which is described in the 3rd episode of season 2 has the Ted we know and love. If Story-Telling Man isn't Ted, then they should have noticed. (Oh my gosh, "5th episode of season 3"? I feel like such a nerd for saying that...!)
- This theory has been Jossed. Word of God says they'll never pull something like that and the person telling the story in 2030 really is Ted.
- "Ted Mosby...architect." Hey, there's precedent
- Oh, Ted is not dead but he is dying, which is one of the reason why he's telling the story to his kids, he what's not only to spend some time with them, but also to tell them the story of he met their their mother before he goes.
Future Ted is hallucinating.
- Ted never fully got over his feelings that he and Robin were soulmates, and as time passed he purposefully sabotaged every relationship he was in (cheating on Victoria, inviting Stella's ex to their wedding, etc.) because he knew he was meant to be with Robin. As the years went on he developed severe emotional problems because of this and became a reclusive architect designing grand tributes to Robin secretly in his buildings. Finally as he succumbs to his long untreated mental illness(es), he creates what he believes him and Robin's children would look like, and as a coping mechanism meticulously explains everything he could have, or should have, done to keep Robin instead of pushing her away from him. The series will end with his children revealing to him that they are figments of his imagination and that he has to face reality, and the camera pans to see Future Ted putting a shotgun in his mouth and then whispering "reality..." before a cut to black and the end credits roll.
- Wouldn't that make Robin the (imaginary) Mother, which we already know isn't so (as she's 'Aunt Robin')?
By the time the story is told, Marshall is the President.
Marshall's law school buddies include a future senator and an Attorney General, two different people. If two throwaway characters get such good jobs, then a regular has to get something even better.
- Along with dead Barney, the two most probable theories yet.
- Heck, this explains why they got those good jobs - they went to law school with President Eriksen!
- Wasn't one of them also Chief Justice of the Supreme Court?
- That would also explain how Marshall gets access to Time Travel!
- Wait, wouldn't that make the pineapple a first attempt at making sure the time machine works?like "let's send something inanimate first"
- Future Marshall DID have a snazzy office...
- They did go to Columbia Law School after all.
- That would explain how he eventually managed to save the planet (as Ted mentions in season 7)
Barney is dead when Future Ted is telling the story
This theory comes from a highly observant fan
. Considering some of this evidence and the vagueness of his job, in which the only evidence known is that he works with North Koreans.... it could be possible.
- His womanizing also suggests that he's unlikely to hit a ripe old age.
- One of Barney's most important character traits is that he always wears a suit. The Livejournal link talks about this suggesting mourning colors and the formality of a funeral, but there's a simpler link. If a man Barney's age died, how would the corpse be dressed in the coffin? Just like Barney is now - in a suit.
- But from Barney's point of view, suits resemble joy and awesomeness, not death. This is why he never wears his suit in funerals. And anyway, he wants to be buried naked.
- Barney is so cool that he is probably Too Cool to Live.
- It's still possible, but Ted recently gave a date for when Barney finally quit smoking that was well outside the likely running time of the show. So he may die, but not in the present.
- When I saw that episode, I thought immediately of this theory - what if the date given for Barney's last cigarette is the date of his death?
- I'm sure I'm not the only one who imagined Barney with a cigarette in his mouth and a blindfold on with his back against a wall. Pretty sad, but almost plausible.
- Especially suspicious is that Barney's life after the series is almost never mentioned. Future ted talks about Robin, Marshall and Lily all the time, but Barney is barely ever mentioned. Chances are the Barney is naught but a distant memory, for one reason or another.
- Still, Barney is always referred to as "Uncle Barney" when Future Ted is talking to his kids, implying that Barney was at least alive until some point after the kids were born and were old enough to remember him. If the kids never knew him, why would they call him "Uncle"? And Ted would just refer to him as "my friend Barney" or some such thing, as he does for the other people in his life that his kids presumably never meet.
- Not necessarily. The reason he's Uncle Barney isn't because he's close to the children, but because he is Ted's brother. As long as Ted considers Barney his brother, he's their uncle. I still no longer think this WMG is true, but for other reasons.
- After recently watching season six's 'Subway Wars' again, I've found at one point Future Ted says "To this day Barney denies this is what happened ... " (It's paraphrased, but he definitely says "to this day".) I think it would therefore be fair to say Barney is alive by 2030, because if the writers had been foreshadowing his death all this time, they would have had the line differently, like "Barney always denied this is how it happened, but ... " for example.
- Also, "Tick, Tick, Tick" has Barney and Robin both swearing "to this day" about the song on the boat.
- More than that, Barney seems to be very sure of who might cause his death. While his job is unclear, he seems to be very positive that he only has it because he knows a lot of dirt on the company. When asked if he was worried about being fired, he said "The things I know about this company, I can never be fired. I might find myself ashore with no fingerprints or teeth, but I can never be fired."
- It would also explain why Barney's character is so absurdly larger than life. Marshall, Lily, and Robin have all been around to roll their eyes and correct Ted when he gets a little too carried away recounting their exploits. Essentially it would add an extra level of Unreliable Narrator.
Barney is alive...
...but the kids don't know him well because he's been out of the country for several years. Despite his self-centred persona, it's pretty obvious that Barney actually likes helping people - as Hippy Barney he was going to join the Peace Corps, and even as his suited-up self, he does a lot for others, particularly his friends. Maybe Barney does eventually take over the evil corporation he works for, but as soon as it becomes Barneycorp, he starts some legen-DARY world-saving projects. Because of this, Barney has spent several years travelling between projects to supervise them personally, and to fulfill his dream of hooking up with a girl from every country in the world.
Barney disappeared from Ted's life sometime after The Kids matured and got to know him.
The Kids appear to be about 15, so it's entirely plausable that when they were five or six Ted and Barney just kind of drifted apart. Barney continues to be an honorary uncle because that's how the kids know and remember him, even though he hasn't been around for a while.
- Unlikely, since Ted talks about Barney as if they still talk on ocassion. In Subway Wars, he says "To this day your uncle Barney won't admit it..." and in Tick, Tick, Tick... he says "To this day Robin and Barney both swear this is the song they danced to on that night." They also meet up at least twice a year for Thanksgiving and Robots vs. Wrestlers, so Ted and Barney are presumably still quite close.
Ted is telling this story to his wife's grave.
- This is how I see the whole series ending. He does get married, but his wife dies prematurely, and he stands there relaying the story of how they met in the way he'd planned to tell their kids. Then Robin comes up, tells him he's been here for hours, and they walk off.
- Pretty much confirmed.
Ted meets the mother of the children after the children were born
But soon enough so that they think he's their biological father. Alternatively, they know he isn't their biological father but in 2030 he's been around long enough for them to call him "Dad".
Future Ted is no longer married to the mother
He's telling the kids the story to get them on his side, and the show ends with Future Ted (now Present Ted) making an earnest effort to win her back.
The kids are blind.
Future Ted describes a painting to them...a painting that's hanging in their house.
He doesn't say it in the same "as you know" tone that he uses for the toy bus, which they've presumably played with. This explains why the kids tend to stare kind of vacantly in the flash-forwards, and a little bit why Ted is rambling on so much: he was told that parents need to talk to blind children a lot, and is oblivious to the fact that they've grown up now and are perfectly capable of seeking out their own stimulation. Wildly guessing further: since both of them are blind, it's genetic, meaning quite possibly the Mother has very poor eyesight herself...she can see things close up, and she's very good at recognizing the color yellow, but she won't recognize Ted from his Econ lecture when next they meet.
- Jossed as of Say Cheese. Future Ted says the kids have seen Lily's photo albums.
- Jossed two seasons earlier, with Season 3's Little Boys. We are shown pictures the children drew of themselves with Aunt Robin, something they couldn't have pulled off nearly as well if they were blind.
Ted's wife can't get pregnant.
Robin will give birth to Ted and his wife's baby. The story is still about how Ted met his wife, but the pilot episode turns out to really be about how Ted met the kid's birth mother.
- ... surprisingly Jossed by "Symphony of Illumination."
- Double Jossed by "Unpause."
The time in which Ted is telling his children this story is After the End
There was an apocalypse of some sorts, and Ted is telling this story to pass the time in their atomic bomb shelter. When in the beginning of season two, his daughter say it feels like he's been going on for a year, SHE MEANS IT. She's just not sure because they don't know the exact date. Is there any other real sign for this in the series? One time, Marshall says about the organization he idolizes and wants to join that they are going to fix the environmental issues. Future Ted comments "Well, at least they tried."
Note that it couldn't have gone wrong long before 2030, since the kids apparently have been shown Ted's first building while going through New York (or this means that it's just not an Everything Trying to Kill You
or everything is radioactive kind of apocalypse).
- The room the story is being told in is revealed to be the living room of the house Ted bought in Season 5 and restored sometime in the future.
- With the recent Season 9 Promo, with the kids all grown up talking about how they missed out on their lives, and with Ted's comment about Garrison and Cootes saving the world not being entirely accurate (Marshall was okay with going to Italy with Lily because the firm was doing poorly), it's possible that Ted knows it's After the End and is trying to shield his kids from the reality that they can't leave their home again.
Future Ted is smashed.
Consider the facts: Ted is telling a very long, digressive, inconsistent and generally inappropriate story to his children, which doubles as a nostalgic look back at his single years. In his story, Young Ted and friends are almost constantly drinking, and apparently visit the bar every single night
through a period of their lives which lasts over five years. Neither of his children seem particularly surprised by Ted's occasionally-scandalous actions in the story, or by the fact that their father is telling them this rambling, sometimes-sexually-explicit tale in the first place — they're just bored and annoyed and want to leave but aren't allowed to. Also, Ted is best friends with Marshall, and who is canonically an extraordinary lawyer.
Conclusion? The Ted who is narrating had quite a few drinks before starting this story, which is why he's having trouble keeping track of the details, and also why he keeps forgetting that some of this material is not stuff a parent would usually tell their kids. When the kids protest that they've heard this story before, they're telling truth, as this is not an entirely uncommon occurrence in the Mosby household. The mother is not around because Ted is an alcoholic
. Ted retained custody of the kids only because he has access to very good legal representation.
- Or because he's not an alcoholic. He just gets kinda drunk at least once a week.
Ted is very unreliable narrator.
None of the people exist. The narrator is a psychotic man hallucinating the kids and his former friends. He's made up a perfect couple (Lily & Marshall), a stereotypical womanizing friend with a heart of gold (Barney). And a girlfriend who is beautiful, but represents the side of him that never wanted to commit.
Aunt Robin is, in fact, the kids's actual aunt
It's not a term of endearment
. Ted, try as he might, is still longing for Robin when her now college age
enrolls in (his class
). One night she and Robin are at the bar, Ted comes in while Robin's in the bathroom and strikes up a conversation, and...well...the rest (as they say) is history.
- By extension, this means (at least) one of the other Honorary Uncle titles could be legit.
This is the first time the kids have been told anything about Ted's life before they were born
The story starts in 2005, but in the first episode the kids are confused that Ted just told them to story of how he met Robin rather than the mother. If they knew when their parents were married and how long they dated, they'd be able to work out what year they got together and so could just tell Ted to skip to then. It would also explain why Ted is making the story so long, he feels guilty about not telling them anything and so wants to correct it whether they like it or not.
Occasionally, the mother is in the room as Future Ted tells the story.
Future Ted seems rather inconsistent in how much he wants to censor for his kids. When the mother is nearby, he's a little more conservative than when she's out of the room.
Future Ted talking to his kids isn't actually real; it's an Imagine Spot
of Present Ted in the series finale.
Ted is just imagining what his kids will be like and the story he will tell them. This opens up the possibility that anyone he said was not the mother could actually be the mother, even Robin; he just thought that they weren't at the time of the Imagine Spot
- Continuing with this theory, there could not even be a mother: Ted never ends up getting married and having kids.
Ted is actually Madonna
It makes so much sense! Both have slept with more people than they might admit, and both gave "Weird Al" Yankovic the idea for "Like a Surgeon"!
Ted is dying
As noted above first. Ted could be dying while telling the stories, which is why he told his kids about everything in his life from meeting Robin to meeting the mother. The reason they're bored and call him out on taking so long is because they don't know he's dying.
The kids are named after Lily, Robin, Marshall and Barney
The girl is "Lily Robin" or "Robin Lily", the boy "Marshall Barney" or "Barney Marshall". Alternatively, there are 4 kids, and we only see two of them because the others are two young to sit through the story, or one (or both) aren't born yet. (There might have been something that jossed "more than two kids" thing, but I can't remember anything). How they decided which name came first, I don't know. Maybe they went in order of doppelganger appearance.
The kids are dead.
Ted always wanted to tell them the story of how he met their mother, but they died before he could. He decides to tell the story to imaginary versions of his kids, or their graves. Their reactions are just imagined, which explains why they happen more frequently earlier in the grieving process: he remembers them better and he was sadder early on.
Everybody is dead.
Blah-Blah and Janette met, and decided to get revenge on Ted, and stated pecking off everyone important to him. Starting with The Mother.
Future Ted has Alzheimers
A handful of episodes have alluded to Ted and the Mother having their time cut short. Instead of the obvious interpretation of the Mother being dead, Ted is rapidly losing his memory. Ted wants his children to know what he was like as a young man and how to avoid some of the pain he went through so he sits them down and tells them about his life prior to meeting their mother before all the stories slip from his memory. The last scene of "Gary Blauman" is actually Ted reliving that memory of their first date. This also adds a coherent reason for the continuity botches and gaffs in the series.
Ted has a reason for telling his kids all about his exes in such detail
He wants to make Robin
look better compared to the others.
Barney's Wedding and Related Relationships
Robin would eventually let go of her feelings for Barney and hook up with that guy in Hopeless.
...and then Barney realized that he still loves Robin.
The woman Barney is marrying is Quinn
Think about it. When Barney first meets her, she plays him like a violin, leading to him not being able to think about anything but her. This totally proves that she can keep up with him, at least in terms of magnificent bastardry
. Not to mention, at the end of 'The Broath', there is the exchange with Barney asking what would cause her to give up her job as a stripper, and Quinn
replying with 'when she gets married'.
- Jossed: It's actually Robin. Though, Barney did ask Quinn to marry him.
Barney doesn't marry Robin
I know. It's sad. I was hoping otherwise.
But Robin would definitely have Lily as her maid of honour, right? So, as much of The Lad-ette
Robin is, she'd probably have an enormously stressful wedding day and Lily wouldn't be running around informing Ted that the groom needed him.
Also, since when is it like Robin and Barney to get married traditionally, in a church and all that?
- The bride needed Ted, i think it's a very big hint that Robin is the bride, why would Nora wants to see Ted before her wedding? After all they (so far) barely ever talked with each other, heck did they ever talk with each other? So unless Nora and Ted formed a friendship with each other before the wedding, i think Robin has the bigger chance to be Barney's bride.
- And Robin also asked Ted to be her best man if she ever got married. So Ted's probably pulling double duty.
- If it's not Robin, I think it's Victoria. Why else would they bring her back?
- To provide closure for her character?
- Jossed: It is Robin.
Barney marries Robin.
From what we've seen in the final episode of season 6, Barney finally decided to enter a steady relationship with Nora. Robin on the other hand seems saddened by this fact. My take on this: Barney's relationship with Nora ends badly, Robin is there for him when the time comes, they get together again and decide to get married. Hence uncle Barney and aunt Robin.
- Ted's nervousness at the wedding is also good support for this; if one of his best friends is marrying his ex-girlfriend, he'd be rightly nervous. If Barney is just marrying Nora or some other girl, it seems more far-fetched. Future Ted hasn't yet said Nora's name, however, so it's unclear whether she's "Aunt Nora" or "that girl Nora".
- Confirmed at the end of season 7.
Barney does not marry Robin. But they end up together.
We all know that Barney has big issues on commitment and that he is far, very far from husband material, but how could anyone convince him to settle for only 1 girl when he has never kept a promise, except for stupid bets, has never burned his playbook and always invents some far fetched story which justifies why he broke his own rules? My guess is that Ted will have a flash of inspiration at the last minute and save the wedding by challenging Barney to do the one thing that Barney has never, ever abandoned; an impossible bet.
My theory is that Barney will have the jitters before the wedding and will have nightmares about growing old and fat so she does not love him anymore and to never be able feel the same kind of love that they had when they were dating and thus will never be able to properly marry Robin. But at the last minute, Ted will have a flash of inspiration and will say something like this:
Ted: " Yeah, it would be impossible to conquer the same girl every day. I mean, imagine inventing a new play every day for the rest of your life, conquering the same person over and over again even if she gets old and fat... No one would ever be able to do that."
And Barney would say: "Challenge accepted"
Barney marries Natalya from "The Limo"
This ties into the "Barney moves out of the country" theory. Natalya comes back into his life and the two fall in love. They get married, but after a few years, Natalya has to go back to her home country, and Barney ultimately decides to go with her.
Barney is bisexual.
And in love with Ted. Subconsciously, he doesn't want to admit his feelings for Ted, and so he urges Ted not to pursue long-term relationships, or any relationships at all. Similarly, his own philandering comes from his desire not to commit to anyone who isn't Ted. He and Barney get married (in the future, when gay marriage is legalized), or not (have Ted and the kids' mom ever been confirmed as being married?), and the kids' biological mother is
- Or Lily. Or even a random woman who gave her eggs to the fertility clinic. But this theory is partly Jossed because Barney is against long-term relationships in general, he's also extremely happy when Marshall is single again, and is devastated when his brother gets into a long-term relationship and even married.
- Barney happy when Marshall is single again? Do you even watch the show? Barney is the frickin' president of the Marshall/Lily fanclub.
- First episode of Season Three? Barney is amazingly pumped when he thinks all three of them are single simultaneously. He spends the next two episodes taking Marshall out to bars to hook up with other chicks - who weren't Lily. Admittedly, he hooked up with them himself instead (why is this even a spoiler?), but he did try. Kinda. He even forgot Lily's name for a bit! Pretty sure Barney, while he may ship 'em later, is perfectly capable of getting excited about acquiring a newly-unattached wingman.
- I can't remember what episode it was in, but it was revealed that Barney paid for Lily's ticket back to New York, and hooked up with Marshall's dates to keep him single. Taking Marshall out was just to keep him busy. And also so Barney could get laid.
- And yet, it is rumored that Barney and Robin will hook up this season. The only question is, for how long?
- They have.
- And it was short.
- Barney and Ted eventually get together, get married/civil partnership'd, and decide to have kids. When they finally meet the perfect surrogate who has all the traits Ted wants his children to have and will play the right music for the fetus... it's Cindy's roommate!
- Ted is definitely married as of the year 2021 — in "How I Met Everyone Else", he wonders where his wife has got to, and in "Garbage Island" he tells Wendy he's married to a "wonderful woman" and has two kids.
Robin ends up with Don.
- Or at least, the writers planned it this way before the audience hated him. When Future!Ted originally mentions Don, it was that "ironically," after choosing to forgo dating for her career, that was the day she met him, and he says his first name with no other explanation, as if the kids should know already.
- If Robin does end up with Don, why doesn't he refer to him as "Uncle Don", like he does with Lily, Marshall, Barney and Robin?
- Wow, serious Fridge Brilliance. The irony in their meeting at their time isn't because she wound up with Don, but because in the end she was faced with the same choice, and chose dating... and he chose the opposite.
Don was either an Aborted Arc
or will lead Robin to actually try to settle down in a long-term relationship.
His introduction by Future!Ted bestowed on him much more importance than the maybe-half-a-season relationship he turned out to be. Either Don was originally intended by the writers to last much longer than he did (as in, he'd still be around in 2030 as Uncle Don to Ted's kids), or Robin's finally realized she's willing to find a life-long partner and maybe husband. Granted, they broke up last season and there hasn't been that much follow through besides Robin getting emotional a couple of times, but if they bring back the concept, 2030's Aunt Robin and Uncle Mr. Robin will be a direct result of the Don relationship. Alternate theory: Don comes back, begs to get back together, and everything works out.
The wedding Ted is at in the first episode of the sixth season.
Obviously, it's not his wedding, but he is "Best Man" for it. This means that's it's someone really close to Ted. While it's possible that it is his father's wedding, I'm going to say that the wedding is actually for Barney. To Robin.
- Almost certainly true. It's hinted at with Barney's reaction to Robin in that episode. The writers realised how terrible a mistake they made tossing the relationship aside and are giving it another shot.
- Perhaps further support for this, or at least part of it: Barney imagines himself as Best Man at Ted's wedding. Maybe this is a reverse-hint, of sorts.
- Another popular guess is Cindy and the blonde, since why else would the mother (Cindy's roommate) be at the wedding? Furthermore, Ted is nervous about his speech because he doesn't know the couple that well, but Cindy insisted he be the best men because Ted played a vital role in her deciding she's a lesbian and leading her to find her future wife.
- Maybe not, if this (confirmed here to be about HIMYM) is anything to go by. Possible spoilers.
- And now, in episode 6.12 ("False Positive"), Robin asked Ted to be her Best Man if she ever gets married.
- My personal theory is that it's Barney's wedding. The woman who calls for the best man never says a name, and Ted and Marshall get up at the same time. And it would be just like Barney to ask them both to be his best man. Alternatively, if it turns out that this is Robin and Barney's wedding, then Ted is Robin's "best man" (as per "False Positive") and Marshall is Barney's.
- This doesn't really prove anything, but in the latest episode ("The Exploding Meatball Sub") it shows a flashforward to 2021 at the very end. Neither Barney nor Robin are wearing wedding rings. However they could just not be wearing them at the time or not like wearing them...
- Also, that particular flashfoward could be a product of Barney's imagination—everybody looks pretty much the same (unlike Ted/Marshall/Lily's "real" flashfowards), and it seems unlikely that Barney could feign illness for that long that much in the future. He's grown up a little.
- The Barney's wedding part has been verified. Now we just need to know if it's to either Nora or Robin. Since Ted is Best Man to Barney, this favors Nora as the one Barney marries. Which could be a Red Herring.
- Doubtful, since she's never referred to as "Aunt Nora" in the voiceover. And they've broken up now.
Barney and Robin's marriage will not last.
- In the Exploding meatball sub, ten years later, neither is wearing a wedding ring.
- It is possible the writers did that because that was before it was revealed whose wedding it was and they didn't want to give anything away. It's possible though, as NPH hides his hand in 2015 so we can't see if Barney is still married or not. Considering the fact that the wedding is important in the show's story, however, and that Barney and Robin are still on talking terms in 2030 (it would be even harder for them to remain friends if they split up this time round), well, those are good arguments for them still being married. I also can't imagine why the writers would go to such lengths to make both reveals so big and important if they're only going to divorce the characters later.
- Confirmed. The two divorce after three years of marriage.
- Barney's drunk kiss with Robin wasn't planned, but after she turned him down, he told her they were never going to get together out of respect. When she started acting weird around him, he realized what was going on and started the fake relationship with Patrice. Other steps were played by ear with the security cameras and whatever Patrice found out. Once he decided to propose to Robin, he wrote everything down like he planned it the whole time.
"The Robin" actually had started earlier than "Splitsville" episode
- The way that Barney and Quinn broke up made me think that he was intentionally sabotaging his relationship with Quinn. I think that after he saw Robin was sad about Barney supposedly throwing away all the mementos from their relationship, Barney realized that Robin really was still in love with him deep down. The only thing was that her pride wouldn't let her admit it. So Barney basically made the most hateful, sexist Pre-Nup possible in order to drive Quinn away. Sure, Robin was dating Nick at the time, but he knew that it wouldn't last. He needed to find the right time to intervene.
Robin and Barney won't make it down the aisle
- Robin and Barney already tried this relationship once and it was destructive and did not work. It was also revealed that Barney wants kids and Robin doesn't want kids and she also can't have any. So they'll either realize they aren't compatible and not even make it down the aisle, or the two of them will mutually break up on good terms.
- Jossed. Episode 15, Season 9. If you take a closer look at Barney's left hand while he's fixing his tie in front of the mirror just after his boss (who turns out to be the guy who stole his ex, Shannon) is arrested by the FBI, you'll be able to see that he is wearing a ring. This scene happens 2 months or so after his wedding, so yeah, Barney and Robin do get married. Unless Barney gets a girlfriend, proposes and plans a wedding in that short time, which is highly unlikely.
Patrice will be Robin's Maid of Honor
Eventually, Robin will figure out that Patrice has nothing but her best interest at heart. It could also be a great Throw the Dog a Bone moment.
Marshall (Judge) Eriksen will perform the ceremony
Now that he's a judge he can do that sort of thing, and Barney performed the ceremony of Marshall and Lily.
One of Robin's relatives will shoot Barney's Ringbear
before or during the ceremony.
#31 (the girl Barney got pregnant) will be the main character of "How I Met Your Dad"
- That series will end with her getting pregnant and Barney showing up.
Ted's last attempt to win Robin back will backfire
Either she's already dating someone else
or she will remind him every single reasons why their relationship failed
Barney didn't really have a perfect month - he hired a surrogate to have his child
- When Barney did his "Perfect Week" he was bragging to his friends about it every step of the way. But his friends didn't know about his alleged perfect month until it was already over and he subsequently found out that #31 was pregnant. It's possible that after his failed marriage to Robin he decided he was done with relationships, but he still wanted to be a dad so he hired a surrogate to bear his child and just told his friends that it was a random girl he knocked up.
Grand Unifying Guesses, Crossovers, and Alternate Universes
Harold and Kumar takes place a few years prior to How I Met Your Mother
Although briefly reuniting at Christmas in 2006, Harold and Kumar's constant fighting eventually broke the pair up again. Kumar did, however, get his life together. He went into medical school, but his constant smoking prevented him from becoming a doctor, so he ended up taking psychology and becoming a therapist instead. Angry at himself for allowing marijuana to yet again interfere in his life, angry at his girlfriend for enabling him, he finally quit, left her, moved to New York, and changed his name to Kevin. Harold, meanwhile, without the calming influence of Kumar on his life, gradually got more and more jaded and cynical by working in corporate America. He, too, changed his name, not because he was ashamed of it, but because Jeff Coatsworth was a more effective name for Wall Street than Harold Lee.
- Additionally, "Neil Patrick Harris", as seen in the film was in fact Barney using their similar appearance in one of his schemes. This would cover the fact that Neil Patrick Harris is gay and the man Harold and Kumar met clearly wasn't.
- Even more additionally, this can explain some of Barney's characterization in the show. After getting his heart broken by Shannon, he has some crazy adventures (as per above) and some time later meets Ted. This also could explain some of his success with women: they play along with his schemes because he looks exactly like NPH and they dig that. Because every person Barney meets comments on the resemblance, it becomes so obvious and non-noteworthy to the gang (and their children) that Ted never mentions it-story. (And then they found a doctor who also looked like him, I guess.)
The whole show is actually a simulation showing a Five-player Tabletop RPG with each player filling one of the Five RPG archtypes
- Robin's player is the Real man. She views the game as a straightforward attempt to amass as much money and status as possible and is confused whenever role-playing and character development/relationships. As a result her character has a poorly developed bakstory.
- Ted's player is the Thespian. He's determined to roleplay a lovesick romantic but his poor character optimization and unwillingness to think strategically doom him to failure.
- Marshall's player is the Loony. He ignored the game's romantice premise in order to focus on roleplaying a lawyer leading to many career oriented subplots. He also randomly introduces odd quirks such as singing everything and his love of girly drinks just for lulz.
- Lily's player is the brain. Determined to advanced the plot and skilled at manipulating the other players to keep them on the rails.
- Barney's player is the Munchkin. His character is optimized for getting laid as much as possible. He took the flaws: parental abandonment, fear of commitment, compulsively wears suits, unable to drive and does not know how to use screwdrivers in order to get money, corporate connections and a super-high seduction skill. He also designed his apartment to give himself as many circumstance bonuses as possible. The laser tag obsession is how he justifies it to the DM when he reflexively puts points into his combat skills. Barney's butt monkey status is the DM getting revenge.
The telepathic conversations are how the simulation represents talking is a free action, the relationship arc between barney and robin was an attempt by both players to farm roleplaying XP, occasional continuity slip-ups such as the goat are the result of either the DM getting his notes mixed up or ted's player misremembering the events.
How I Met Your Mother is an Alternate Universe of Friends.
- Marshall = Chandler
- Lily = Monica
- Barney = Joey
- Robin = Pheobe
- Ted = Ross
- The show is about finding Rachel.
- Except that Barney is not stupid... and in what universe is Robin anything like Phoebe?
- They're both the wacky chick (fulfilling similar roles in the group dynamic), and both have UST with their universe's Handsome Lech (although in HIMYM, it just becomes ST).
- It's a very, VERY alternate universe.
- Robin is much more like Rachel, and based on all the quirks Ted describes about the mother in "Girls vs. Suits", she'll probably be the Phoebe herself. Still kind of works, since Joey-Rachel and Ross-Phoebe were couplings that Friends experimented with.
- I would gush if Ted met a "Phoebe" :D
- The HIMYM versions are either the darker/lighter sides of the Friends versions. Marshall is how Chandler would have been if he'd had a happy, normal family. (Idealistic rather than cynical and committment phobic). Lily is Monica if her mother hadn't criticized her so much. (More relaxed, quirky and less uptight). Barney is Joey with a broken heart, screwed up parents and more brains. Robin is how Rachel would have been if she had been toughened up rather than spoilt. (More career-driven and independent). And Ted is Ross who is still looking.
- How about an Alternate Universe of Coupling?
- Marshall = Steve
- Lily = Susan
- Barney = Patrick
- Ted = Jeff
- Robin = Sally
- Ted's various girlfriends collectively = Jane
- I'd rather say Robin is Jane.
- Not much point when Coupling is basically an alternate-universe Friends
- Coupling is Friends if the four of the friends are retarded or insane.
How I Met Your Mother is an Alternate Universe of Scrubs.
- Ted = J.D.
- Marshall = Turk
- Lily = Carla
- Robin = Kim
- Barney = The Todd
- Perhaps the mother will be Elliot?
- But, I thought that Elliot left Ted at the altar.
How I Met Your Mother is an Alternate Universe of Full House where Danny doesn't marry Jesse's sister
- Ted = Danny Tanner (naturally). Not only because of the dopy dad jokes, or the tendency to tell long winded stories, but because he's a widower.
- Marshall = Joey Gladstone
- Barney = Jesse Katsopolis. Only he didn't have a father in this universe.
- Robin = Becky Donaldson. She even has the career in broadcast journalism. Plus Becky was originally supposed to be a love interest for Danny)
- Lily = Patty Fogerty. Joey's college girlfriend from the episode "Blast from the Past" who broke up with him to, yes, find herself. Danny even says how she did a Mexican hat dance on his heart. Only in the HIMYM universe she came back. Go watch the episode and tell me you can't picture Danny calling Patty a "Grinch".
The story is set in the Ender's Game universe, and Bob Saget is a Speaker for the Dead.
Barney before his disillusionment
was Billy, of Doctor Horrible's Sing-Along Blog
Both characters begin as well-intentioned but timid, have something go very wrong with a girl, and in response seal up their hearts and become soulless bastards... though Barney's
is played for laughs
. Barney could be Doctor Horrible's civilian persona. (Admit it: it's creepily possible
- Dude, Barney was a hippie, and Billy's a Deadpan Snarker. Huge difference.
- But not mutually exclusive...
- Billy's not a nice person. He mocks people's e-mails, is an aspiring super-villain, a stalker, and ponders mass poisoning simply because he got his heartstrings a little bruised. He already had one foot in the soulless bastard door when Act I started.
- Disillusionment? Er, no, Barney's awesome
- Plus, the Mega Corp. that Barney works at is the perfect front for a legion-of-doom type organization
- Also what is Barney's actual profession? I makes sense.
- After his Heroic BSOD in Doctor Horrible, Billy accepted Bad Horse's offer to head up the Evil League of Evil's New York office (operating in the guise of a midlevel executive at the League's front company, Goliath Bank). Changing his name for security reasons, and desperate to fill the void left by the death of the only woman he ever loved, he begins a meaningless string of hookups, booty calls, and one-night stands. Meanwhile, Moist, with his share of the take from the bank heist, gets hormone therapy to treat his excessive sweating, earns a Master's in Engineering from M.I.T., and takes a position at Cal Tech, all under his real name of Howard Wolowitz.
- Alternately, Barney is a more successful Billy in an alternate universe.
- This makes a creepy amount of sense. Due to Penny's death in Dr Horrible, Billy lost his faith in meaningful relationships, and became the ladies man we all know and love today. His character arc was from tragic Anti-Villain to really being evil and enjoying it. All-out evil wouldn't show up in his civilian identity, however, but the reckless and carefree attitude one might expect is there. However, his relationship with Robin also suggests a glimmer of the mindset he had back when he loved Penny, and it could be that his character is continuing to move forward and he may become optimistic like he was as Billy once again. This isn't just a simply WMG, it could be a full-on plotline and character arc.
- Actually explained quite nicely in this fanfic
- And, much like how he suggested giving Marvin the middle name "Waitforit" Barney suggested that Ted and the Mother name their daughter "Penny" after her.
Barney's real father is John Constantine of Hellblazer
Take a moment and think about it. This is the Constantine of the comics, BTW. They both are blond and blue-eyed with the same overall build. John is wearing a suit underneath that trench coat. Plus, John's age (55) makes him old enough to have fathered 32-year-old Barney. Considering all the times his mom left him alone, it's not unlikely that she darted off to England to have a one-night stand with a certain bisexual con-artist magician. For all we know, Barney's pyrotechnics are extensions of his own magic powers inherited from Daddy Constantine. And then there's the bus accident from the season three finale. Barney survived with several broken bones and yet didn't wind up crippled. Obviously, he can ride Synchronicity Highway just as well as John can, by siphoning off the good luck of others.
- His father in the show is to be played by John Lithgow
The mother has nothing to do with Ted's quest to get married
Ted gets around a fair bit, all things considered. He's no Barney, but he's bedded his fair share of ladies. Flash forward to the series finale; the episode is nearing completion with no mother. All of a sudden, a one-off love interest Ted knocked boots with in a previous episode walks in with a child in tow. Ted's child. Ted mans up and marries her.
- Though, depending on how long the show runs, they will have been born after the show ended.
- If the mother is planning on having Ted know about and be involved with his child (even willing to marry him because of it) then why would she wait until it's already born to tell him about it? Wouldn't it make more sense to contact him while still pregnant?
Altrucell, the company Barney and Marshall work for, is affiliated with Wolfram & Hart
Why? Come on, think
- Barney is a magician
- Marshall is the biggest believer there is
- Some of their employees are pretty weird
- Barney is super secretive about his job and is afraid he'll end up being murdered because of it
- If Barney is to be believed, then it isn't uncommon for armed and dangerous ninjas to show up at the office
- They sure do some shady business around there...
- Their security isn't that great - see "armed ninjas"
- The company has been established as EVIL!
- The Sasquatch at Barneys job in the first season wasn't Marshall, it was a real Sasquatch
- Wolfram & Hart has offices in many dimensions and realities
- And it would be cool
Also, it would explain the ridiculous number of Buffy the Vampire Slayer
alumni on the show: because of the events of Not Fade Away
, the Senior Partners had enough of Team Angel, and so they sent an entire army to take them out and suck Los Angeles, along with Team Angel, into a hell dimension
. To make sure the Scoobie Gang would stay out of it, they sent the rest of the characters in the Buffyverse into an alternate reality, erased their memories, and gave them completely different pasts, which is why Andrew is an employee at a coffee place and Willow is Lily.
Additionally, the Mayor is Ted's mom's boyfriend because, in this dimension, he never heard of demons and never died.
- Because the Senior Partners were worried that the now memory-altered Scoobie Gang would run into their counterparts in the Motherverse reality, they killed those counterparts. However, they didn't need to kill Team Angel's counterparts because they are still in the Buffyverse trapped in the hell dimension that is now LA. This is why Sandy and Penelope weren't killed; the original Wesley and the original Fred's body didn't cross over to the Motherverse.
- Alternatively, they did not kill off the Scooby Gang counterparts. We know that Lily/Willow has a doppleganger, who is a stripper. Who's to say that the rest of the Scooby Gang doesn't have dopplegangers too, just ones that we don't meet?
- Maybe Barney's job is to make sure that Lily doesn't remember that she is Willow.
Barney and Richard Castle actually made up Dr. Horrible's Sing-Along Blog together
In reality, Barney and Richard Castle are friends, if only by the Internet, and they came upon Felicia Day's web original The Guild and concocted a plan to write up a blog, since Barney loves blogging, that stars their alter-egos. Felicia Day agreed to it. So Barney and Castle wrote up and starred in the Sing-Along Blog as enemies. Also, Felicia Day is a doppelganger of the Slayer Vi, which, in coordination with the Wolfram & Hart theory above, connects the Blog to How I Met Your Mother to Buffy and Angel.
- Alternately, rather than Felicia Day and Simon Helberg, in this universe Penny and Moist were played by Codex and Howard Wolowitz. Possibly the greatest crossover ever?
- And considering Castle is such a huge fan of "That Joss Whedon Show" and has Hollywood connections due to the movie deal for the Nikki Heat books, he and Barney put in a call to get Joss to direct.
Chloe The Barista from Season 2 actually is Inara
- In the far distant future of the Firefly verse, those seeking to complete Companion Training must travel back in time to Earth-That-Was, in order to study the art of seduction from the master of the craft: the Great Barney Stinson. So, why all the Swarley business? It's part of Barney's plan. He enlisted Inara in a plan to help bring Marshall and Lily back together. First knowing that she was working as a barista he urged Ted and Marshall to go to that shop and paid Inara to develop a crush on Marshall and even go so far as to come up with an embarrassing new nick-name for him. Then he would plant the seeds of doubt that Inara was actually crazy. Finally he would inform Robin who would tell Lily of the new crush thereby getting them back together. Why would Inara help? She is a bit of a romantic and values true love. For example, she'd never come between Wash and Zoe, but if something drove them apart she'd be quick to help get them back together. And the mess in the apartment...the goram Reavers showed up.
Marshall is a Time Lord
, but he doesn't know it yet.
this one had to come up eventually.
Okay, so it's canon that Time Travel
exists, or will
exist in the future, in the Motherverse. And we even see Future Marshall spying on Present Marshall and Present Lily in 2009. So obviously the only explanation is Marshall being a Time Lord.
Why doesn't he know it yet, then? Probably he's under the same stuff the Master was in "Utopia" and it's just a matter of time until something brings back his memories.
How I Met Your Mother and the Buffyverse are in the same universe.
Think about it. How I Met Your Mother shares several actors with the Buffyverse. It was stated by another Troper that the company Barney works for is affiliated with Wolfram and Hart. The Motherverse seems to be a pretty fantastic world itself so it wouldn't be outside the realm of possibility that they would at least be in the same universe. Lily is actually Willow under a new identity. She eventually tired of the Scooby Gang and their antics and pretty much just wanted to be normal, so she cast a spell on Ted, Marshall, and Barney making them think she had been in the group all along. Sandy and Penelope are just doppelgangers for Wesley and Fred, but Andrew was undercover working in the coffee shop. Willow had put the spell on the Scooby Gang, erasing all memories of her, which is why Andrew didn't seem to recognize her, and Lily was more concerned about finding out what Chloe looked like, which is why she didn't seem to notice anything.
This could also be why Lily's favorite name for a girl is "Tara" and why she seems a little bi...
- Clearly a long, drawn out narrative recounting every incident of your life is In the Blood.
It's not a Chuck Lorre production, but it is in the same block, and Barney does something that involves North Koreans, lots of secrecy, and the occasional ninja assassin.
- Maybe Barney's cousin Leslie is actually Leslie Winkle?
The company Barney works for is a front for COBRA
Think about it: what do we know about the company Barney works for?
- They spend a lot of time acquiring banks, and theoretically, have a lot of bankers/financiers working with them
- They're evil
- They regularly get attacked by ninjas
- They have destabilized at least one nation
- They regularly do business with countries the U.S. considers threats (North Korea and China, at least.)
Sounds a lot like COBRA to me.
- He has a dark past, but has an overly perfect looking family with a son and a daughter, and even an estranged much older sibling from an earlier relationship.
That's how he came up with the "Don't poke the Dragon" line in "Garbage Island".
- Alternatively, he reads Harry Potter. Hogwards' motto "Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus" also translates "The sleeping dragon must never be poked".
- Titillandus has connotations of "tickle" far more than "poke", and is typically translated that way. There are also unrelated, nitpicky problems with the translation you chose. As for the original WMG, "don't poke the dragon!" or "don't poke a sleeping dragon!" has been around in certain wide-ranging, fantasy-fan circles for years before A Game Of Thrones was released, possibly as long as or longer than First Edition D&D has been around. That doesn't mean he didn't get it from A Songof Ice And Fire, and I'm pretty sure he does read the Harry Potter books, but my memory can't supply specific examples.
- He mentions Joffrey in the Season 9 premier, so it's very possible.
"Scooby" is or is related to Wilfred
The obsession with suits and his way with the ladies is clearly In the Blood
. This may mean that GNB is a subsidiary of Team Fortress Industries.
Thus, why she hasn't been seen outside one episode. Her team determined that Ted is not a match for Alex's DNA.
Time inconsistencies aside, both share some traits and qualities (headstrong, blonde-haired, some others).
Future Ted is making the whole thing up as he goes along, based on objects in the room, a la The Usual Suspects
We know that things on the shelves are supposedly integral to the story. Perhaps instead of being things that are actually important, they're just random stuff on the shelf that Future Ted uses to flesh out his story.
The Captain is a Time Lord
Her mission: to get close to Barney Stinson as he has seen/encountered something at his job that is a threat to national security had it ever got out. She just didn't plan on first falling for one of his friends, and then for Barney himself. It explains how good she is with guns, and the whole Canadian backstory (Canada? Pff.). Robin Sparkles is the result of losing a bet with Coulson. It was the worst thing he could think of.
Future!Ted:: Kids, at the start of 2012, your aunt Robin joined SHIELD...
- Alternately she needs to get close to Barney because he is Dr. Horrible. Further Marshall is really Vector and Lily is Dark Willow, and they have formed an alliance and she needs to take them down.
- The reason Robin didn't hang out much with the gang is because she's busy working with SHIELD and helping Fury's fight against HYDRA after SHIELD dissolved during the events of Captain America: The Winter Soldier. It could also explain why she's traveling a lot.
His other children on Reaper
might have disappointed him, but he still has some hope for Robin. Although only he knows what he's been grooming her for all this time...
The doppelgangers are the future selves of the main characters.
Moustache Marshall? Marshall with a moustache and accent. Stripper Lily? Lily with an accent, a corset, and a lot
of practice with a stripper pole. Lesbian Robin? Someone convinces her that playing amateur baseball (America's national pastime) and being a hockey fan/being Canadian are not exclusive (they already won half the battle with that scene in the Tim Horton's), she gets gum in her hair and has to cut it short, they realize who the doppelgangers really are and Future Future Marshall shows up with his time machine. [[supersecretspoiler: Nah, I can't believe you kids fell for that! Longest setup ever
. Although it would have been cool to meet our exact doubles, I mean, really
, Archaeologist Ted? You kids must have watched the Indiana Jones quintet a million times with me and your uncle Marshall, and never
noticed the similarities?]]
Either all the doppleganger's are from Dr. Horrible's dimension or Dr. Horrible
is Barney's Evil Twin
Hippie Barney will be the fifth doppelganger.
When he was younger he wore suits, but then was disillusioned with the whole idea of corporation when he slept with his boss (which was probably but not necessarily
female) and decided to become a champion for Earth. They will find him on a picket line for
Wolfram and Hart
- "Eventually, we all become our own doppelgangers...."
And he will serendipitously tell her and Marshall that she's pregnant.
- Semi-confirmed. The fertility doctor Marshall and Lily see is the fifth doppelganger.
They won't actually see Barney's doppelganger.
"Remember, kids, when I told you that we saw the rest of the doppelgangers that year? Well, I lied
. Your Aunt Lily and Uncle Marshall thought they saw the fifth doppelganger, and they were looking forward to having a child so much that we all played along. Except for Barney, who wasn't there because he was busy walking past the bar window in a sombrero and knitted poncho
. We did eventually see Barney's real doppelganger, but that
is a story I'm not telling you until you're older."
- Confrm'd[[supersecretspoiler: Sort of. He was a cab driver doppelganger by accident and a knife-juggling doppelganger by intent. Lily was convinced that a non-doppelganger hot dog salesman was the fifth doppelganger.]]
- This would probably be for the best, seeing as it would be very unrealistic for all the group's quests and traditions and such to end conveniently right before or when he meets the Mother.
- Jossed. They now have seen the fifth doppelganger. It was the fertility doctor.
He will be an amateur musical actor from Ohio
who is in New York to be in a play about an Ineffectual Sympathetic Mad Scientist
. The gang meets him when he tries to pick up Robin with an incredibly cheesy pickup line
about how he graduated from medical school before he was 16
, then as he's leaving says he's going to go "pick up a cougar with my huge bag of catnip, if you know what I mean
Barney's Doppelganger was in the episode.
It was NPH on a robot unicorn, but you can only see him after consuming 83 sandwiches. It was mystical.
This was sort of verified as the fertility doctor that Lily sees is Barney's doppelganger.
Unlike the other doppelgangers, Barney is actually related to his.
Dr. Stangel could every easily have the same father as Barney. I don't remember the last name given for Barney's father, but even if it was different, Dr. Stangel could also have been only raised by his mother without the father's influence.
The sixth doppelganger already appeared on the show
The Mother's doppelganger, who will be played by the same actress, had already appeared in a previous episode before. She might even had been a named character. This fact alone will instantly win her points with the rest of the group.
- Or lose her points, depending on who she's a doppelganger of.
The rest of the Doppelgangers will return
Stripper Lilly was how we where introduced to the doppelgangers
Lesbian Robin isnt a lesbian
She just has short hair and was playing softball, but she is the mother.
By 2012, Lesbian Robin put down the softball glove, grew out her hair a little...
... and appeared in the very popular summer blockbuster The Avengers
, as SHIELD Agent Maria Hill.
While on his rode trip Marshal will meet the mothers doppelganger
Barney's job is illegal
His company won't allow him to tell anyone what his job is because the job isn't supposed to exist (of course, it can't be too evil....
Barney is a prostitute.
Whenever he is asked what his job is, he answers "Please." ... He pleases people for a living.
- Except we used to see him at work, we just didn't know what he actually did. And he hasn't said that since his company was bought out by GNB.
- No, we saw him in an office. We never saw that office being used, since we never saw him do anything. For all we know, he was just a good enough prostitute to be able to request an office and a parking space for him to play out his fantasy of being a high-flying executive.
- Or he could be a private prostitute for GNB employees.
Barney is a mathematician.
He is a high-functioning autistic savant, who is ridiculously good with numbers (he could memorize a metric shitton of prices and add them up for The Price Is Right
). His job at the company is finding ways to evade taxes, that's why he can't discuss it.
- Autistic? He's been mentioned as having ADD, but that's it.
- I don't know, he was able to memorize the names of ALL of Ted's students....
- I don't know about the rest, but "evading taxes" makes sense. There's those shadowy deals he seems to make with North Koreans, and in one episode Barney tells Lily about a secret locked case in his apartment. If he ever dies, she's to take it and burn the contents. Hmm...
Barney's job is much more benign than he makes it seem.
- Throughout the run of the show, we're shown that Barney's a MUCH less evil guy than he builds himself up as. His job is likely something very beneficial, likely involving ethics or something similar, but for the sake of his "bad boy" image, he refuses to disclose the details to make himself seem more of an "evil exec".
Barney will lose his job soon.
- Because him giving up on romatic relationships and his father just isn't enough.
Barney doesn't know what he does
I forget my reasoning but something to do with the episode Doppelgangers
- Barney said something to the effect of "They actually expect me to work"
Barney is President of GNB.
Altrucell is a gigantic conglomerate that seems to have its fingers in a lot of pies. When the company took over GNB in a hostile takeover, Barney was thrilled about it because the corporation was putting him in charge of their new GNB division. Barney appears to have near-limitless freedom at work and personally arranged for Marshall to get the job in GNB's legal department. Since GNB is now a subsidiary of Altrucell, Barney's position is pretty much just a title, an office, and a fat paycheck. People ask what his job is and he says "Please" because it would be easy for any of them to look it up on GNB's website.
- This makes the most sense.
Barney is a janitor at Goliath National Bank
He "has a lot of keys" according to Marshall. He has on occasion gone to great lengths to preserve his image, and always manages to sit in his office in a clean suit when his friends arrive.
Barney is a liar for hire
Barney is a professional courtroom liar. Any time his employer is involved in court proceedings, Barney is given appropriate fake credentials and a temporary job description that makes him a fitting witness. He adopts a new personality for the duration of the court case, lies about the company's culpability and explains away all the evidence against them. This is how he knows all the company's secrets and will therefore never be fired. Barney's "Please..." references that in the past he had spoken with his friends about his strict need not to talk about his job under any circumstances; it's short for "Please, we've been through this. You and I both know that I can't say anything else." He did once directly state that he had committed perjury on the job. His womanizing outside work draws on the same talent pool: wild theories to persuade the gullible, new personalities, explanations for everything, and of course the willingness to throw ridiculous amounts of money at problems. Paying Barney his massive salary is substantially cheaper than paying off all the lawsuits.
Barney is a head hunter
IT's His job to find suitable people to work at GNB, I mean he's personally arranged for Marshall to get the job in GNB's legal department, and got Ted a shot at designing the GNB headquarters.
The company Barney works for makes fringe science technology for a government.
GNB and everything else is just a front to make the company seem not at all suspicious. It has a weapons manufacturing division so their military contacts don't seem suspiciously out of place.
They worked on an Inception technique/machine. The film, which used prototype, was to put the idea that it's fictional technology into people's minds.
When Barney says he'd been trying to "Inception [Marshall]'s wife" he was testing to see if Ted and Marshall would pass it off as a joke to make sure the film-prototype worked, which it did.
Additionally, they make a working time machine in the future, which Marshall tests out/uses.
Barney is a supervillain.
- Considering all the Actor Allusion in this series, you knew this had to come up sooner or later.
- Actually explained quite nicely in this fanfic
Barney is actually much less wealthy than he appears to be.
All that stuff he has? He borrowed it from different people and never returned it, just like he does with Ted's stuff.
- Did he borrow a 50-foot TV shipped from Japan?
- Yes, probably.
- He stole what he couldn't borrow. We have seen that he has only little respect for other people's property.
- He's got "a guy" for everything, and it's implied that his guys get him stuff a lot cheaper than it would cost legally. I bet a lot of his toys "fell off a truck".
Barney's job required secret training.
Ted mentions at one point that he has no idea where Barney went to college. Barney went to a secret college specifically for his job. Possibly espionage-related.
- But his college hippie flashbacks seem to point to him going to a normal city college.
- Those were all post-college. What better way to throw people off than come back from college seeming like a hippie, hm?
Barney wasn't at risk to get fired in "Perfect week"
He was at risk of getting arrested. His job, PLEASE, had landed him in a situation where a deal has gone south, and he had to take the fall for some of the questionable shit AltruCell does. Since he's working with the feds, he got a free pass. Probably because whichever fed he does report to told whoever was coming to bust him that he's their snitch on the inside
Slap Bets and the Remaining Slaps
The fifth slap will set off a chain of reactions that leads Ted to the mother.
- Jossed, the fifth AND sixth slaps happened
- lets say the last slap
- Jossed. The last slap is used literally right before Barney and R Obin get married in order to calm Barney down when he has one final panic attack.
Marshall has already used the 5th Slap.
In Girls vs. Suits
Marshall slaps Barney after he starts fondling Marshall's suit. Barney will bring this up
when Marshall tries to slap him again, pointing out that he has already slapped him previously to this. Barney will declare that Marshall has been...Lawyered
- It's not Barney's call what counts as a slap, it's Lily's. If Marshall didn't slap him in the face as hard as he could, it's not one of "the slaps."
Robin actually was in a porno.
At no point has Robin actually explicitly denied being in a porno. Barney will discover this at some point and unleash the most legendary slap ever on Marshall...only to find out it was softcore.
- If this happens I hope it's an in the future gag.
- Maybe 'Teenage Pop Star' is Future Ted's Euphemism for 'Teenage Porn Star', similar to how 'sandwich' is his word for marijuana.
Barney has a heart condition, which will be what kills him in the future
I'm going along with the WMG that says Barney is dead by the time Ted is telling his kids the story. In 'A change of heart', Barney goes to see a cardiologist who (unlike she did with Ted, Marshall, Lily, or Robin) makes Barney wear a heart monitor. Sometime this season, the cardiologist will reveal that Barney has a heart condition and can no longer maintain his wild lifestyle, possibly forcing him to settle down.
- A sudden, sharp shock to the face could perhaps send him into ventricular fibrillation. A sudden, sharp shock such as the final sla- No. It's too depressing. Barney will live forever, and if he doesn't, it will have nothing to do with Marshall.
The last slap will happen in the final episode.
- Because honestly, if the last words of the show aren't "AND THAT'S FIVE!", I'll eat my hat.
- The fifth slap happened in season 7 but Barney agreed to three more slaps in exchange for not wearing the ducky tie. Slaps 5 and 6 happened one after another but Marshall now has slaps 7 and 8 still available
- How about "AND THAT'S EIGHT" instead
- Jossed: The last slap is in the second to last episode (or thrid-to-last since the finale is an hour.)
There will be a total of 10 slaps
8 is just a random number
- Unless season 8 is the last season
Barney trades back the extra slaps in exchange for putting on the ducky tie again.
- In a flashforward set in a casino where Marshall goes into Beercules-mode again, Barney is seen wearing the ducky tie again. Therefore, we know that sometime in the future, Barney will have to wear the ducky tie again...and it's unlikely he would accept wearing the ducky tie as part of a completely new bet, since it bit him in the ass the last time.
- Jossed.. Barny agrees to wear the Ducky tie again to get Marshal to turn off his phone, relax and "So drunk (they) need subtitles".
Eventually the total number of slaps will be 83.
- Over the course of years, more slaps will be added as Marshall earns more. Since 83 is Barney's favorite number, it will ironically be the total number of slaps.
Barney gets retribution and earns a chance to slap Marshall back.
- Eventually, Barney will employ a great usage of Insane Troll Logic to get back at Marshall (and Lily, since this troper believes her to be a biased Slap Bet commissioner). Lily is forced to accept Barney's logic and will have to give out a bigger punishment to Marshall.
Marshall will use the final slap on Barney's Wedding Day.
- Barney will freak out on his wedding day, and Marshall will slap him back into the right mindset.
- I really like this one. Marshall still has two slaps left so one of them can be used in the wedding episode and the last one in the series finale.
- Confirmed. On "The End of the Aisle" that's exactly what he does. And that's all of them!
The wind up at the end of "Bass Player Wanted" will culminate in Marshall not slapping Barney
- Or rather, he'll just lightly tap him on the cheek and count it as a slap. As a gift.
Marshall will give the honor of the last slap....
- To the Mother. As a gift to welcome her into the "family".
The series finale...
Will be one of the greatest television finales of all time.
- More like one of the most Broken Base finales of all time.
Over the course of Season 9 various events will be driving the group apart.
Barney and Robin's Wedding will be the biggest catalyst in shaking up the show's status quo especially if it doesn't go through (most likely due to Ted). Ted will end up showing the locket to Robin and will cause even more problems for the wedding which can lead into two different situations.
A. Ted giving Robin the locket would be the catalyst of a series of events that lead into Robin leaving Barney (either preventing the wedding or it happens shortly afterwards).
B. Ted does give Robin the Locket but it does not change the fact that she and Barney are going to be married and Ted will be accused of trying to sabotage the wedding in which his friendship with Barney will either end or be severely strained. So in other words even if the wedding does go through this WMG can still come into play here.
The fact that Marshall did take up the job as a Judge will also most likely cause a considerable strain in his marriage with Lily (but fortunately they most likely won't divorce). But the good news is that the strain in their relationships will not necessarily be flat out permanent as they will be in friendlier terms in the future.
Stinson Missile Crisis is a parody episode
every unrealistic or overdone aspect of the show is either commissioner or exaggerated in this episode. the A-plot exagerates how Robin gets when she's jealous by having her drinking under her desk. improbable coincidences are exagerated by Ted doing the same. the A-plot also exagerates Barney's womanising with schemes that are beyond ridiculous and almost impossible to believe (even moreso than they've ever been before) meanwhile the B-plot has Ted acting obliviously weird and it's pointed out that he could really benefit from therapy. Lily does something out of character by even considering drinking while pregnant just so her, Marshall, and Ted could have a storyline which involves her and Marshall having yet another disagreement about how to raise their child. towards the end, Ted explains his behaviour with the fact that he STILL hasn't found the girl of his dreams and his family life is so far away and is imediatly reassured he'll find her because that has to happen about once an episode. and the icing on this parody cake is that Robin is telling the story this time and just as Ted is doing to his unfortunate children and us, she keeps talking about what Marshall and Lily are doing and insists that it's important to the story only for us to find out in the end that it really isn't. when Ted tells her about the cheesy aesop of the week, she gives the unnatural reaction of explaining that his story will be intregal when she later tells her story (as if she knew at the time that she would tell it) which indicates that all the other times in the show when characters say simmilar things, Future Ted
is probably making it up. and her therapist knows she made that bit up just like we know Ted made up "and we really chanted" conclusion: the Robin in therapy framing device was a way for the writers to show self-awareness and mock the way the whole series is being presented and mock aspects of the characters (it's perfect because the character's deviations from their normal selves can be explained by it being a different narrator)
- I agree. Also, Lily and Marshall accuse Ted of invading their personal space in college, when really both of their first times (the real one and their first one as a married couple) were them deliberately ignoring that Ted was there, and Ted didn't enjoy being there. At first I was angry that they'd seemingly forgotten this detail, but it makes sense if you think about how Robin was the one who was narrating; she probably didn't know the details, and seeing as she sees Ted as being rather nosy, this was probably her assumption when she'd heard about Lily and Marshall's college experiences.
Ted is bad with numbers. This will eventually become a plot point.
Let us first state the obvious: This show knows how to handle subtle hints. Take for instance "single stamina", from which we can learn that Ted and Robin will break up before the wedding of James Stinson.
Now, let's look at two little things shown to us in The first season:
- In machmaker, Ted finds out that his 9.6 match has been already set up with a 8.5 match. He says "she can do 11,45% better", and even proudly proclaims "That's right: I did the math". Ted, Ted, Ted... The other match is (1.1/9.6)*100% = 11,458333% worse than you, but you are (1.1/8.5)*100% = 12.941176% better than him. Writers Cannot Do Math, or clue?
- When Ted is dating Victoria, He is waiting for a phonecall at 11 pm. While there is a six-hour time difference between Germany and New York, Germany is six hours ahead - It's 5 AM there, not 5 pm. This mistake leads indirectly to their break-up - if Ted had known this, he would perhaps have been more patient. Hollywood Science, Writers Cannot Do Math, or clue?
Now, let's put them together... Ted has made two mistakes using numbers. Twice has the mistake been so subtle, that the mistake has yet to appear on any tv goofs site (save for the time zone, which gets mentioned at tvtropes in Hollywood Science
). Twice has it been roughly the same mistake - he has the correct numbers but mixes something up - in both mistakes he calculates the wrong way around.
The theory is thus: Towards (or even in) the last episode, Ted wil make some vital number-based mistake that will prove vital to him meeting his future wife.
- Both of those instances of Ted being bad with numbers took place in the same season (Season 1). If this flaw of Ted's were to become a major plot point, more hints would have been dropped, spread out over all eight seasons. Also, Ted is an ARCHITECT. Architects have to have advanced mathematical abilities in order to design and have their buildings made.
Ted Mosby is really a jerk.
Okay, first of all, it's firmly established that Ted is an unreliable narrator. But can't that go a lot further than just forgetting details and making some of the stories more kid-friendly? What if he's telling the story to his kids to put a much better spin on things, rather than letting them find out from other people? For example, The Wedding Bride movie gives a pretty awful account of Ted and Stella's relationship, and if there's a worldwide film about it, Ted probably wants to make sure his kids don't think that's how he really is. But maybe he really is a jerk. He breaks up with a girl on her birthday (TWICE!), fires Hammond Druthers in a pretty awful fashion, can be a major snob, doesn't give a toast at his mother's wedding, calls Lily a "Grinch", lies to Robin about Victoria, treats women pretty badly when going along with Barney's schemes, et cetera, et cetera. Maybe he really is a jerk, and he's lying about it so his kids will like him (because it doesn't look like they have a whole lot of respect for him anyway).
- Lily really was a grinch, Hammond deserved to be fired, and his stepdad was singing a song at the reception about how he gets a massive boner when he fondles Ted's mom, so it's quite understandable that Ted didn't want to give a toast.
- All of which we hear from Ted's perspective. Why wouldn't he change the details to make himself look better?
- His story also contains tangential, all-too-convenient explanations of why there's a "Ted Mosby is a jerk" website, and why there are pornographic films about Ted Mosby — both stories relying on two different people appropriating the identity of "Ted Mosby, Architect" for their own unsavory purposes. What are the odds of that?
- Alright, but in the case of the porn films, if he were the Ted Mosby in question, why would he draw attention to the films at all? Wouldn't it be smarter to play the odds that the kids would never stumble upon the films accidentally rather than giving them a reason to google it?
- Lily was a "grinch," and many people would have called her the same. This troper is more surprised that Barney, at least if not also Robin, called him out on it. Lily didn't just break off the wedding, but also cut off all communication with everyone - Marshall, Ted, Robin, and Barney. Not only was Ted friends with Lily as long as Marshall, Lily entrusted him with the secret of the try-out with the promise that she wasn't going to go.
- I think you may be onto something here.
- Wait, how does sleeping with random people make someone a Jerk?
- Don't forget the way he presents a win-win compromise to Zoey, and then immediately trashes the plan the moment he learns that she's married. Dick move, dude.
- At least twice he has dumped a woman with words to the effect of "Yeah, you gots to go."
Ted Mosby in fact far nicer and doesn't give himself credit.
Remember how ted warns Robin's younger sister about amorous boys by telling her he was a horndog teenager
who deflowered his smitten girlfriend
? When in fact it turns out reverse was in fact true. This suggests that Ted plays up his youthful mistakes to serve as cautionary tales for his children. He also is too soft to tell them what uncle Barney
or aunt Lily
like and glosses over any consequences of their actions.
Of course he could've being telling the sister the truth and lying to Robin and his kids.
Ted will get fired next season for dating every girl in his class (or not stopping Barney from doing so).
That'll tack on at least three more years before we find out who she is. Alternately, he dates (or Barney sleeps with) every girl but one, and gets cut off every time he tries to say "except [future kids' mother's name]," since that would be the obvious giveaway.
- Except Barney is in a (healthy) relationship with Robin, and both men haven't expressed any interest in dating Ted's students yet.
- More importantly, The Mother isn't in his class. She's in the Econ class he wandered into on his first day.
Lily is Bisexual
In "The Prom" she complains she never got to have her lesbian experience, in "Do I Know You?" she comments she won't pretend she hasn't noticed Robin's body, in "Double Date" she's a little too
excited to meet Stripper!Lily, and in "Robin 101" Lily said Robin is the "occasional guest star in some confusing dreams that remind her a woman's sexuality is a moving target". Come on, the evidence is all there!
- Single target bisexual? Her interest in men appears to be limited to Marshall, and her interest in women appears to be limited to Robin. Stripper-Lily is neither here nor there, since sexual attraction to one's self (which it essentially is) doesn't figure into the Kinsey scale.
- Quick correction there- in "Old King Clancy," Lily says that if she could have sex with a celebrity, it'd be Hugh Jackman, so apparently she finds men other than Marshall attractive.
- On the other hand, Hugh Jackman.
- Lily once mentioned that she had a secret crush on Mila Kunis.
- It would make sense, especially if the Buffy/Angel theory is right.
- "Girls vs. Suits" more or less confirms this; Lily admits she was thinking of the hot new bartender (Stacy Kiebler) while having sex with Marshall.
- And in "Hopeless" she is revealed to also have a crush on Mila Kunis.
- Well, yeah.
The last "Present-time" words of the show will be, "Haaaaaaaaaave you met Ted?"
And that's how he meets their mother.
- I fully support this being what happens.
- Addendum: the actual courting will be a theatrical film.
- So much support for this.
Kevin knew that Robin cheated on him
Think about it. Kevin's a therapist who's trained to analyze behavior patterns. He may not fit in with the rest of the gang, and he clearly thinks they're all totally insane, but he's proven a couple of times that he understands the group dynamics (analyzing their quirks in Mystery vs. History,
and correctly deducing the real reason Barney wanted to take off the ducky tie in Disaster Averted.
) Kevin spent three hours on a cruise ship with Barney and Robin the day after
they slept together. He saw the way the two of them were interacting, and he figured out what had happened. Later, when Robin was about to tell him, Kevin stopped her because he already knew.
He wasn't trying to spare his own feelings. He was just sparing her the pain of telling him what she had done.
Ted Doesn't Remember How He Met Their Mother
Bear with me, because this only makes sense from an obsessive "I've watched every episode multiple times" perspective. Ted forgets/misremembers/misreports important details. He changes stories, characters, and events over the course of the show. It's probable that the writers just kind of gave up on some forms of consistency and continuity, but what if Ted honestly doesn't remember how he met their mother? It adds up:
- Ted changes the physical characteristics of Stuart's wife (originally blond, tall, and somewhat plumper; later short, brunette, and petite)
- Ted changes the explanation for why Lily painted a nude portrait of Marshall, and forgets that everyone in the group would have already known the story. The original explanation was that she needed to draw a nude portrait for class, and Marshall didn't want her seeing any other man naked. When it came up again in S 4 E 16 "Sorry, Bro", the rest of the group didn't know why Lily drew Marshall nude (despite being told in S 2 E 13 "Columns"), and Lily gave the explanation that "he ate my bowl of fruit".
- This was the explanation for why she needed to do a nude painting at all. Maybe there was a list of assignments and she just chose the first one she saw, which was 'nude painting', after Marshall ate here original subject.
- There is literally no time between the end of season 2 and the beginning of season 3 (the former ending on "it's going to be legen-", the latter starting on "dary, legendary"). How is it, then, that Barney could "already have a girl from work lined up" for Ted?"
- Because IT HAPPENS THAT FAST.
- Keep in mind, Barney would never intentionally set Ted up in a legitimate relationship. To Barney, having a "girl lined up" means "I just this second thought of a totally hot chick that
you I could bang."
- Marshall changes from having never gotten in a fight before, and not really knowing how (S1E3 "Sweet Taste of Liberty", S 1 E 18 "Nothing Good Happens After 2 A.M") to being a skilled/crazy fighter with a background of violent fights with his older brothers (S 4 E 10 "The Fight").
- He could have just never fought another person before - most people don't really count sibling fights as 'real' fights.
- This last one is arguable, but Barney's reason for sleeping with so many women is also changed over the course of the series. Originally, it comes as a result of losing his girlfriend to a guy in a suit, and becoming cynical and disenchanted (S 1 E 15 "Game Night"). This later becomes because in middle school, a bully claimed to have slept with 100 women, which inspired Barney to sleep with 200 (S 4 E 22 "Right Place, Right Time")
- He started his mission of sleeping with 200 women, met the girl of his dreams, lost her to a guy in a suit and decides to continue his plan.
It's entirely possible that these changes are reflective of what the people actually did (Lily did change the explanation of why she painted a nude/Robin forgot the earlier explanation; Stuart divorced and remarried; Marshall pretended to have never been in a fight before; etc.) but it seems more likely that Ted is an unreliable narrator. Given this, we also have an explanation for the seemingly unending stream of filler episodes in the current season: he's buying time trying to remember.
- Really? It is still possible that the story really is that convoluted. Don't forget, it's been established that Robin is essential to meeting the mother, which is why it's gone on for so long- Ted has to start from when he met her and go through each individual segment for it to make sense. Also, you seem to be forgetting a very important detail of Ted telling the story to his kids: he told his parents that, when he had kids, he was going to tell them the full story, bar nothing. He's living up to that promise, but he's just getting distracted sometimes with certain side-anecdotes and forgetting details. And some of those inconsistencies can still make sense: Stuart's wife could've had the same name of another of Ted's friends, and he confused the two temporarily after years without contact, we know Marshall is adverse to physical violence so very plausibly could hide that part of his past, and so on and so forth. Plus, is it really plausible that someone who is as big of a romantic as Ted, whose entire motive is finding his own true love story, would actually forget how it turned out?
- And it seems that this is well and truly disproved as of "Girls vs. Suits."
- Stuart's wife is played by Virgina Williams in "Intervention" as well as "The Wedding" and "Drumroll Please". She just changed her hair.
Barney Never Sold A Woman
This has been bothering me for a while, and then I thought: what if Barney never sold a woman? After all he is known for his talent of story-telling, and he does it quite a lot. And considering the reveal from Unpause – maybe he was just trying to make himself seem more like the guy he wanted them to think he is?
In fact, it’s possible that other than the stuff we've seen him do, he's made up a lot of his stories (possibly most of them, with Ted
just confusing the stories with what really happened). It could also be just Ted
exaggerating, but either way I find it hard to believe that Barney actually sold a woman.
Cindy wasn't entirely honest with Ted.
Specifically, about not being able to date him. According to a certain other wiki, it's not against policy for students and professors to date at Columbia (the university Ted works for). Now, the question is, why would she have lied to him? Well, we know that both Cindy and the mother were in the Economy class Ted accidentally went to, and that they are currently roommates in the present time.
So the most obvious answer would be knowing how much Ted and her roommate have in common, she wants to set them up.
- Half-Jossed. Cindy won't date Ted because Ted isn't a woman. That doesn't mean she won't let her roommate date him though.
The last episode of the series will contain something from every single episode related to Ted's journey as a character, allowing him one single moment of perfect clarity, where He Meets Their Mother
I dunno, just with how Continuity Crazy the writers are, it seems like something they'd do. It'd be a great way to tie the series together as well, meaning that every single step had a purpose, even some of the non sequitur episodes/moments.
- Possibly in the form of a more convoluted version of "Right Place Right Time" (season 4) combined with a Clip Show.
Barney has, or believes he has, a very small penis.
- He makes up stories about how he has a huge one in order to impress women because he's convinced that his is too small.
- I have visual proof that if he thinks that he's very much mistaken. Er, I mean, I was taking screencaps and posted a picspam of season 5 episode twentyone, someone on my livejournal told me to take a closer look at Barney's trousers in this◊ screencap
The Wedding Bride was, for several cumulative reasons, not as divorced from "reality" as the show would have viewers believe.
Ted gave a story slightly biased towards himself from what he saw after twenty years of The Fog of Ages
and twenty years to heal his spite towards Tony. Tony gave a story slightly biased towards himself from what he
saw (which was less than what the viewers and kids saw), with a few twists to make it more marketable. Ted exaggerated how much of a Take That
and Tony Propaganda-fest the film was after twenty years of The Fog of Ages
and boycotting the film.
The Last Season...
will largely consist of Robin and/or Barney subtly mentioning here or there that they know the perfect girl for Ted. However, because Ted is already in a serious relationship
he will say no to meeting her. Ted and his love interest break up, and in a particularly rough patch he agrees to see the girl. The series ends with him meeting the girl, who happens to be the mother.
Bonus Points if the (almost) last line is some extent of "Have you met Ted?" to reference another theory on this page.
How I Met Your Mother will continue up to the birth of Ted's children.
Because, technically, they won't be their mother until after they're born.
- Kind of doubtful. As of "Girls Vs. Suits", there aren't that many episodes left and that sounds like it would just take too long.
Marshall and Lily have an abusive relationship.
- ...and Ted is just naively blind to it because he believes in their love so deeply. In "Zoo or False", Lily mentions that Marshall has a habit of accidentally injuring her, but Ted was only present for one of the incidents she describes. In all the others, she and Marshall are alone. Marshall and Lily seem perfect for each other... impossibly perfect. Is it really so much of a stretch that sweet, sensitive, put-upon Marshall has a secret temper?
- Well, that would make the fact he (very badly) didn't want her to get a gun much, much darker.
- That's a bit of a contradiction. Marshall didn't want the gun around because he's perfectly aware that he's clumsy and might accidentally hurt Lily, which disproves the original WMG (because he literally is hurting Lily accidentally).
Marshall and Lily never have kids.
- They were briefly having unprotected sex and Lily didn't get pregnant. Now, that's not proof of anything, but normally when characters are making plans/speculations from the future, Future!Ted comments or at least hints about what will happen. Future!Ted has NEVER mentioned Lily and Marshall's future children or commented on whether Lily will ever have any, and one would think from their relationship that children would be a foregone conclusion. Maybe they don't ever have kids at all.
- There is a mention of it, in fact. In the smoking episode, future Ted mentions that Marshall had his last cigarette when his son was born.
- He didn't say it was with Lily but...
- Jossed Lily was confirmed to be pregnant with Marshall's child in the finale of season six.
- And no, no Convenient Miscarriage. Lily is shown to be 5-6 months pregnant on Barney's wedding.
- Lily isn't pregnant at Barney's wedding because the wedding takes place a year or so after their son is born.
- She actually is, but not 5-6 months. And not with their first child anyway.
Season five will be retconned. Heavily.
- Many of the characters act wildly OOC and some of the stories are just ridiculous. This season was also the one that most heavily called the truth of the events into question, and was widely disliked by fans. The writers will probably take the opportunity to "smooth out" a few of the more despised details and get the show back on track by Future!Ted elaborating or admitting that he was exaggerating.
- Alternatively, season five was All Just a Dream and season six will start with Future!Ted explaining why it was so important to tell his kids about some dream he had.
- Not likely, though it's probably interesting to note creators and showrunners Carter Bays and Craig Thomas were missing most of the season to work on a Fox pilot that didn't get picked up.
It's Time Travel
Last Cigarette Ever
provides a clear example of this: present!Marshall jumps back and beats the crap out of past!Marshall. Note that prior to this episode, none of the five smoked. It's precisely because
present!Marshall did this that they all started smoking in the first place — past!Marshall did so as rebellion against the random guy from the future. In addition, Marshall and Lily's love-at-first-sight bit was strengthened by past!Marshall's receiving that photograph.
The contradiction between The Fight
and Sweet Taste of Liberty
is resolved exactly the same way. Sweet Taste of Liberty
is told before Marshall beats up his past!self, and thus he'd never been in a fight before. The Fight
is told afterward — present!Marshall's actions spurred past!Marshall's brothers into fighting.
- But did he actually do it? I always thought he just wanted to beat his younger self up and imagined himself doing it, but he never did it... Sure, time travel exists in the HIMYM universe (Future!Marshall was there at the end of The Window), but did he actually use time travel on this specific event?
The greatest Barney quote will be the greatest timeskip ever.
Okay, series finale, they're all in the bar. Baney is looking at some girl, as Ted and Marshall walk over to her. Barney is saying that Ted having sex would be legend- wait for it- as Marshall says "Haaaaaaaave you met Ted?" Cut to the Future year. Barney knocks open the door and goes -dary.
The characters were in fact eating sandwiches.
But they were cannabis sandwiches
. Ted's shameful tone implies that regulate smoking
has become even more looked down upon in the future. This caused pot head to turn to more sneaky way to get a fix. By 2030 or so Food Pills
have become the normal thanks to environmental destruction (at least we tried
) meaning that sandwiches as snacks have all but been forgotten.
Barney's father is Ted's future father-in-law.
Barney's quest to find his father is directly related to how Ted met the kids' mother, because Barney is the mother's long lost half-brother.
- On another note, Barney has mentioned having a younger sister at one point, so it's quite possible that she might be Ted's future wife. If the wedding where Ted meets the mother is indeed Barney's wedding, then it's quite possible that Barney's sister will be there.
Don's depiction is just an example of Ted being an Unreliable Narrator
(keep in mind I haven't watched season 5 just yet, so Joss me if you will)
He's actually an okay if rough around the edges guy. Ted just really, really
doesn't like him but decides to be passive-aggressive about it by making him look like an asshole while still objectively presenting the group's reactions to him.
- That sounds plausible considering Ted was probably angry at Don for breaking Robin's heart: he was the one who had to deal with her dealing with the break-up.
The series finale will end with the full version of "Hey Beautiful" playing.
Because why not.
- Hey Beautiful will be playing when ted meets the mother (over a stereo or radio). To foreshadow this, there will be snippets of the song audible throughout the series where he meets the mother, signifying she is somewhere in the scene.
Barney's incident at the Natural History Museum didn't happen.
Just to be COMPLETELY EVIL. Barney hired the guard to drag him and Robin into the office and set up a "file" detailing the supposed Blue Whale incident. Then Barney added the whole "Uncle Jerry is my father" thing to the file in order to get Robin to fall in love with him again.
- Jossed. The incident did happen and Jerry is indeed Barney's Father
The Wedding Bride was written by Tony.
But due to excessive Executive Meddling
the story was completely changed around in order to make it more marketable.
- I hope this is true, because that movie made me want to slap Stella and Tony.
- This seems pretty plausible (after all, how many romantic comedies give nuance and complexity to the antagonist?). It still doesn't excuse them not giving Ted some kind of heads-up, though.
- This has long been my pet theory. Neither Stella nor Tony seemed to hold anything against Ted - in fact, they appeared to feel kind of guilty about how things worked out for him, to the point that Tony got him his teaching post to make amends. So it makes no sense for Tony to have written the movie as it is filmed. Probably he wrote a realistic, complex romantic comedy about a woman who reconnects with her ex-husband (and the father of her child) right when she's due to get married to a really nice guy, and ends up having to break his heart. But after shopping it around for a while, the one studio that agreed to produce it said he would have to make the fiance unlikeable, in order to make the ending straight-up happy. Tony didn't want to upset Ted, so he changed the character's name to "Jed" (as opposed to Stella and Tony, who are named directly after their real-life counterparts), and made him over-the-top evil and unlike Ted in every, figuring Ted could never think such an outlandish character was seriously meant to be him. Unfortunately, Ted took it personally anyway.
- This is my understanding of how making a movie works. Screenwriter writes screenplay, shops it around, maybe sells it. At that point, unless he's really good and well known and has a really good agent, he loses all control of it. The producers shop it around to directors, and maybe get someone to rewrite it. A director is eventually signed on, who makes any changes he wants, and probably will get someone to rewrite it. It can get rewritten two or three times at any point in this process. It will also get rewrites as production happens to accommodate schedule snafus, product placement, actors, things like that. In other words, the movie that gets made may look nothing like the original vision. See the Buffy the Vampire Slayer movie and The Puppet Masters.
Ted wasn't that much of a jerk.
He is a pretty Unreliable Narrator
, and undoubtedly exaggerated the personalities of a lot of the characters in the show. He clearly dislikes how he was when he was younger and wants to keep his kids from making the same mistakes, so he makes his stories as anvilicious
Marshall's father wasn't worried about Marshall's fertility...
...because Future!Marshall has already told him that he can (and will) have children. Makes sense: Marshall will have access to time travel, it's proven. He and his father were very close. So on his first trip back to the past he will surely want to talk with him again.
- If that is true, I hope it doesn't make it to air. It just seems wrong to mix what is one of the shows sillier aspects (and I want to make it clear that I think the silliness is good on this show) with their most serious story to date.
Ted's sister moved back to Ohio
After the episode where Ted co-signs her lease, she never appears or plays a part in any events in future episodes, despite working for GNB, the company Barney, Marshall and Ted are working for. Well, she never really "grew up". She and Barney DID have sex during the interview and just ran a con on Lily and Ted, and she got the job at GNB (Barney's hands were tied: if he didn't give her the job, she might run to Ted, which would've killed their friendship once and for all). She got her apartment (which was apparently in a bad neighborhood, considering that Ted's advice for her to "get a dead bolt" was appended with "if you want to live"), couldn't make it in finance, and had to move back to Ohio.
- A less negative WMG is she just got transferred to another city. Alternately, Ted isn't the kind of guy that hangs around with his kid sister. Alternately, Unreliable Narrator — she doesn't factor into any of the plots so she doesn't appear. Alternately Alternately Alternately, they couldn't get the actress back/didn't want to hire a new regular/semi-regular.
Ted's dad and Marshall's mom hook up at some point
Just shooting blanks in the dark guys. But it would make Ted and Marshall bros-in-law.
- That would fit the Uncle Marshall and Aunt Lily thing. Now we just have to find a way to get Robin and Barney related to Ted...
- "Uncle" and "aunt" are often honorary titles. Whether or not the WMG is true (I personally doubt it, just because it'd be really contrived, what with them living in completely different places and all), there's no reason for any of the characters to end up being related to Ted.
- Robin and Barney wouldn't be that hard though—they marry each other and one of the unJossed and rather believable WMGs is that the Mother is Barney's half-sister.
- Which has been Joss'd. Oh well.
- Nope, but Marshall's mom and Lily's dad do! Family with benefits. Squick.
Lily and Marshall are terrible parents
It's show on several occasions ("The Murtaugh List" , "Big Days" and "Baby Talk" being the only examples I can think of at the moment) that they can't seem to agree on a lot of things regarding raising/having kids. And they're already trying to have kids as of "Bad News". So when they have kids, the disagreements are gonna pile up, they're gonna fight about it all the time, and it's gonna take its toll on the poor kid.
- Not to be a nitpicker, but their level of disagreement is pretty much par the course, even unusually mild, for most expecting couples. If there's one thing all parents can tell you, there is absolutely no way to draw up a good plan for raising kids and then stick to it.
HIMYM is a project designed to break the record of 'Longest running series'
It's been going this long and we haven't met the mother yet, but that doesn't mean meeting her will mean the end. There's still potential to show off the courtship, which could last for years, and then the marriage before the kids, then when the kids are born. 2030 is actually the planned final year of the show, and then it could still keep going by ending the flashback and just watching the lives progress from that moment.
- I wish them luck with that. Days of Our Lives has been running for 47 years now.
The Captain is Barney's dad.
I got nothing. Just a verrrrry wild hunch.
- That got Jossed a while back. Barney's dad is being played by John Lithgow. Sorry, but good guess anyway.
In the song "Nothing suits me like a suit" Barny had a valid (to him) reason to turn down each temptation
- What would you do if you had to choose Between your suits and a pot of gold?
- Barneys suit collection is worth more
- What would you say if you gave your suits away in return you’d never grow old?
- Barney doesn't have any problem with aging and figures it'll improve his dating.
- What would you pick one million chicks or a single three-piece suit?
- Barney loves the hunt, the rewards not as sweet without the hunt
- Alternatively, Barney's exact line, "it's moot", implies as such because with his suits, Barney can already get one million chicks.
- What if world peace were within your reach?
- GNB makes most of it's profit on war and world peace would result in Barney out of the job
One of Teds future girlfriends will be played by Olivia Wilde.
- Ted already dated Cutthroat Bitch and is currently in a relationship with Cameron, so going for Thirteen doesn't seem like a stretch.
There never was a pineapple.
We already know that Lily, Ted, and Marshall went to Wesleyan University for their undergraduate degree. Marshall went on to Columbia for his law degree. Lily's career means a degree in education or art, or art education, for which a bachelor's suffices. In order to sit for his architecture exams, Ted would have to have an advanced degree in architecture, which Cornell University offers. But why think Ted got his degree their?
In "How Lily Stole Christmas" (2x11), Barney gets very sick and passes out at Ted, Lily, and Marshall's apartment. He's then seen being mothered by Robin
and he's wearing sweatpants and a Cornell Big Red Bear t-shirt, specifically one with the huggy bear◊
. You think it's Barney's? Heh. Please.
He doesn't own a t-shirt. Sweats? Never. And anyway he's in Ted's bed
. So is it Robin's or Ted's?
In the very next episode, "First Time in New York", we see Ted wearing the t-shirt in a flashback while killing a spider. Bam! Ted earned an advanced degree in architecture from Cornell University! My alma mater, bitch!
And it's a master's degree, because their Ph.D. program is in the history of architecture and urban development or in historic preservation planning, both of which are totally Ted's thing because he's a giant architecture\history nerd. But the fact is that Ted's a practicing architect (and at one point a professor of architecture) both of which are compatible with a master's degree. Also, Ted's given charge of building a frickin' skyscraper at the age of 28, which suggests several years of professional development.
The Hulu Girl was the Slutty Pumpkin.
Just to be a bastard to Ted. One of his potential mothers and potential soul mates was there the whole time, and because of Barney he never got a chance to meet her. Also, would make the 'Barney is God' fanboys shut up.'
- I second that thought. Despite being at the same party, Ted and her never interact. She's obviously hot too, which I recall Ted's description of the Slutty Pumpkin to be. I think it's kinda [[Jossed]] though, as the actual Slutty Pumpkin is played by an entirely different actress (I admit it's a long time since I've watched the first of the two Slutty Pumpkin episodes)
The title is a clue.
How I MET your mother, meeting the mother will be at "The Met" or something to do with The Met. Possibly a Mets game instead?
- Ted meets the mother at Barney's wedding, which takes place in a church.
Barney's father is in fact Julian Assange.
They look somewhat similar...
Ted, Marshall and Lily keep in touch with Maggie for many years later
More of a stray observation as opposed to a theory. When you see the futureforward scene in 5x10, when Ted says 'Maggie's window never opened again', you see three adults, in addition to Maggie and her husband playing with the kids, a redheaded woman, a brown-haired man and another man with black hair, ie. Lily, Marshall and Ted.
Marshall and Lily either are or want to be swingers.
It would explain the whole "find another couple" thing. Of course, Ted obfuscates this in his narration.
After "The Wedding Bride", Ted sued Tony and Stella. Marshall was his lawyer.
Sarah Michelle Gellar will appear at some point
Come on, it's the Whedonverse reunion series. Bonus points if she never interacts with Lily.
- And she's The Mother thus causing another series where it's her fault Alyson Hannigan becomes unemployed.
Before we meet the Mother, all of Ted's on screen ex-girlfriends will return at least once
Ted is either directly or indirectly responsible for all of his on-screen past girlfriends finding their soul-mates
Victoria met Klaus because of how Ted dumped her.
Stella got back together with Tony, because Ted invited him to the wedding.
Cindy realises who she really loves after briefly dating Ted.
As as we now know Barney and Robin get married. Barney and Ted both met Robin on the same night and Ted will meet his soulmate at their wedding.
- One problem with this, Victoria and Klaus left each other. Also, Ted had known Barney for years when he met Robin. Remember the goatee?
Robin's obsession with guns in particular stems from the time her father literally dropped her in the middle of the Canadian wilderness with only a knife.
Holding and firing a gun gives her the feeling of security and human advantage that she didn't have when it was knife versus teeth and claws. If that hadn't happened, she might have channeled the obsession she later had with guns into one or more other violent masculine interests in addition to hockey (emphasis on violence, such as mixed martial arts, masculine is only there as a category).
Robin's obsession with guns is directly
because her father would have liked her better if she'd had a Gun In Her Pocket
We know that it canonically and partially stems from her issues with her father, but it's possible that she subconsciously considers them a symbolic prosthetic penis, rather than just a power-tool and confidence enhancer.
Marshall and Lily's child will be named after Marshall's father
Unless there's a twist and they end up having a girl.
- And since Marshall's brother is named Marvin Eriksen Jr after their father, Marvin Eriksen Sr, the baby will be called Marvin Eriksen Sr Jr!
- The baby is officially named Marvin Waitforit Eriksen.
The Blitz Might Have Been There The Entire Time
Ted is only telling his kids about the awesome things that happened to him in his 20s-30s. The Blitz always misses the awesome parts. He might have been there the entire time, but we've never heard about him because he would always leave before anything worth telling happens. Not very likely, but it's an option.
Doug (the violent bartender) didn't actually say anything about Stella leaving Ted
Ted just told his kids that, to justify punching him. After Doug gives a very well placed speech about how friends should stand up for each other, I just feel that it was a bit out of place to give Ted that kind of mental kick. His friendly act towards Marshall afterwards shows that he has a sense of honor (Marshall backs up his friends, Doug respects that). I don't think Doug would pull that out
, even in disappointment, when he had already taken an obviously superior stance to Ted and Barney. It is a perfect justification to throw a punch though.
Ted will have to become an insanely awesome friend before he can meet the Mother.
Ted seems to have been in a slump of concealed depression since "The Best Man" (at least), expressing deep-seated misery and grief (The Best Man, The Ducky Tie), acting grouchy and reserved (Disaster Averted), seeming lonely and frazzled (The Stinson Missile Crisis, Noretta), behaving like a desperate slut (The Slutty Pumpkin Returns), etc. He will pull himself out of his spiral of gloom and self-pity by embarking on a huge bid to make his best friends' dreams come true — he'll play matchmaker for Barney and Robin and save the day during the birth of Marshall and Lily's son (we know from the flashforward in The Naked Truth that the birth is interrupted by some chaotic disaster), and it will spur him into fulfilling his explanation from Wait For It: "but there's a longer story, the story of the man I had to become before I could meet her"
— he'll finally emerge into the real, best version of Ted Mosby, who's worthy of the Mother's love. Remember in "False Positive", when Ted took charge and started fixing all his friends' problems and was awesome and insightful and astonishingly good
at it? It was a clue to where Ted's strengths as a character lie, and would also explain why he's spent so much time rambling about his friendships when he's supposed to be explaining how he met their mother — he needed the kids to really understand the fivesome in order to understand why he and their mother fell in love.
- This one's looking pretty good. In Season 7's "Karma", Ted gives up the apartment for Lily and Marshall; close enough, being a grand gesture that solved the problem of them being unhappy living in the suburbs. Season 8's "The Final Page" has Ted encouraging Robin to go after Barney, leading to them getting engaged.
Robin isn't actually pregnant
However, the scare will lead her and Barney to think about their future, thus leading to their wedding and eventually, a family.
- Sorta. She's not pregnant, but it's revealed that she can't have kids, ever. And she's pretty upset about it.
- More like "has very, very mixed feelings about it". She doesn't change her mind about not wanting to have kids, but she's upset that it's stopped being her choice to not have kids. The show very wisely allows this to be a complex issue for her.
Lily's and Marshall's flat in Manhattan really did
shrink while they were in their house in Long Island.
The reason Ted acts so much like a dad despite not having kids is because he was Promoted To Parent
when he was younger.
Sort of a mild Fridge Horror
: Ted's younger sister Heather is/was a completely irresponsible and uncontrollable near-juvenile delinquent. Someone who Ted's parents, who are detached, vacillating, uncommunicative and evasive (as well as, especially in his mother's case, completely oblivious and self-involved Cloud Cuckoo Landers
), have never
demonstrated the backbone or directness to discipline and control. If they are so incapable of communicating and facing difficult subjects that they never even got up the nerve to tell their kids they got divorced, could they possibly
be the kind of people who could confront their daughter about her behavior? (Hell, she probably got that way to begin with because they never talked to her.) So maybe, because his parents refused to acknowledge that Heather was a mess, Ted did all the guidance and looking-after for his sister to make sure her entire life didn't implode and that she had to deal with some
kind of authority, and developed his premature paternal characteristics because of it. It also gives a reason why he seems so much more like a parent than a sibling towards her.
- This seems less a WMG and more a statement of fact....
This, or something similar, will be the last scene of the series.
(For easiness, the kids are being called Luke and Leia.)
Ted: And that, kids, is how I met your mother.
Luke: Dad? Can we go?
Ted: (sighs) Yeah.
(Luke and Leia quickly run off to the kitchen)
Leia: Oh my God, I thought he'd never stop!
Luke: It's a good story, but he could've skipped ahead a little bit.
The Mother: (walks in) Has Ted finally ended the story?
Leia: Yes, finally.
Luke: He went overboard on the backstory.
The Mother: Well, backstory makes any story more interesting. My story of how I met your father has a lot of backstory.
The Mother: Let's see... I think it started with meeting my friend Beck...
Luke/Leia: (try to make a run for it)
The Mother: No, no, sit down, this is a good story!
Luke/Leia: (sit down, looking like they're about to cry)
The Mother: Now, it all started in the summer of 1998.
Ted: (standing in the doorway, watching) Aaaaand that's why I love her.
(cut to credits)
Ted got the idea of telling his kids about how he met he met their mother from Robin.
Some time after Robin tells the others that she's unable to have children,
(we know she will at some point, because Ted wouldn't have been able to tell the story otherwise) she will probably tell Ted about how she imagined sitting her kids down years into the future and telling them this long detailed story of how she met their father.
Ted will remember this, and think about how lucky he is to have his kids, and decide that that's the way he's gonna tell them the story too.
Scott will show up again later in the series...
And receive a punishment of epic porportions for throwing a party in Marshall's house after leaving the poor guy stranded on the roof. Even better, it will seem like Scott has gotten the best of them all yet again, only to reveal it was all part of a complicated gambit
to get him into trouble. Since the gang's made up of adults and he's just a teenager whose probably gotten in trouble a lot in the past, no one will believe he was framed.
Barney's Last words will be...
"Bro, I'm dying. It's the awesome unknown. It's gonna be Legen-" and then he will pass away. They will put his video will into a DVD player later and the first thing he says in the video will be "-dary!"
- Shit, naw! That's how I'M going out!
Tony's not that big of a Jerk, but a big enough Jerk to just roll with it to get what he wants.
Goliath National Bank is not really that evil.
It's a heartless, moderately unscrupulous corporation typical of New York City, managed by typically selfish, ruthless businessmen. However, Ted's naivete about the corporate world, his distress over Marshall's misery about working there, Barney's constant hint-dropping and bragging about the mystique of the upper levels, and the fact that Bilson scrapped Ted's project and got him fired heavily colored his perception of the corporation. The passing of the years, and the gang's frequent and increasingly hyperbolic trashing of GNB in support of Marshall, allowed his memories of it to blur and mutate over time until by the year 2030, he remembers it as a LexCorp
-esque Mega Corp.
of viciously evil Corrupt Corporate Executives
who deal with the North Koreans, manipulate the economy, and plot to overthrow foreign governments.
Lily is an awful painter.
Minor one, but every objective source indicates that Lily really is pretty bad. Her painting instructor in San Francisco deemed her unteachable, the GCWOK thought the painting was bad and threw it away, and crazy sock guy said it wasn't very good
. Karen also insulted it, but for some reason I am not inclined to mention it. The only compliments to her art I can think of come from Marshall and Barney, who are hardly objective.
Barney let himself get fleeced by Marshall and Lily when she painted his portrait.
His goal wasn't getting himself painted, but rather paying for Marshall and Lily's honeymoon. He knew they'd be too proud to accept that much money, and he's too proud to admit he supports them that much. When he said "You people are so easy to manipulate, dance, puppets, dance!" he actually meant that it was easy to manipulate them into accepting MORE money. Overly complicated schemes and supporting Marshall and Lily from the shadows are both things Barney does with alarming frequency. Also explain why doesn't make a bigger stink about the fact they did rip him off pretty severely. Also jives with the implication that Lily really isn't a very good painter.
Marshall Hates Backgammon Because He Can't Win At It
It's repeatedly shown that Marshall is extraordinarily gifted when it comes to playing games, but hates backgammon with a passion (the only good part is "gammon" in the name). For example, he picked up the bizarre tile/jelly bean game Barney played in "Atlantic City" and was able to help him win. He's also been shown to dislike the thought of the possibility of losing one hand of bridge (a game he has yet to learn and is clearly shown wrong) in a future imaginary scenario during "The Front Porch". Therefore, his hatred of backgammon probably stems from it being the one game he loses at.
Barney was in a boys' choir or had singing lessons as a kid
Barney is really good at singing. Obviously this is because Neil Patrick Harris is a trained singer, but in-universe Barney could have been trained too. Maybe his mum put him in choir to give him something to do while she went out with strangers, or maybe Barney just really want to be a singer, like how we know he wanted to be a violinist. Given his personality pre-suited up, it's possible. He can play the keyboard, too, so he's obviously quite musically inclined. Barney being Barney, however, he has never told his friends about this, because it would make him look un-awesome.
Robin likes her burgers well-done
It's why she always got her burger last in the best burger episode.
- Alternatively the rest like there burgers raw.
Season 8/9 predictions
- Word of God reveals that Robin will receive a new love interest around the same time Barney's engaged to Quinn. Supposedly, this is her secret crush that was introduced in Season 6. These two relationships (Robin with her new interest, Barney with Quinn) will lead up to Barney and Robin's fateful wedding day. Supposedly, we would end up seeing a role reversal this time around. With Becki Newton set to appear in another Bays and Thomas production, we would probably see her for the first few episodes before she breaks the Barnicle's heart.
- Another W.O.G. is that the first episode will focus on Ted apparently returning to Victoria's wedding to drop off a note to Klaus, Victoria's fiancee. This would apparently kick off Ted's final story arc with Victoria.
- Bays and Thomas said that this season would have Ted close several doors and issues on his life before meeting The Mother. With his relationship with Robin fixed, there is still Victoria to think about. Also, remember that Ted would also end up having another snag in his relationship with Barney, probably on the lead-up to him becoming Barney's best man. This would also mean that we would end up bringing back some of the other major story arcs Ted's involved in:
- Stella: At the end of Season 5, we see Ted watch The Wedding Bride, a fictional portrayal of his relationship with Stella, except he's the bad guy and Tony is the sympathetic good guy. Obviously, there is still a part of him that still kinda hates Tony and Stella for how he was untruthfully portrayed in the movie. Plus, remember that we saw the third Wedding Bride movie during on of Ted's dates with The Mother, so expect that to be a factor,
- The new GNB tower and Zoey: So far, the construction on the new GNB tower is still not yet done. This would probably be the perfect opportunity for Zoey to re-enter the picture. Seeing as the two ended on bad terms when the Arcadian was demolished to make way for the GNB HQ, we would get to say Ted and Zoey return to their warring ways.
- The season (but not the series) will end with Barney and Robin's wedding day. The dramatic reveal will be The Mother's identity, whoever she is.
- Season 9 will focus on Ted's romance with the Mother. There are two possible endings for said season:
- The series will end with Ted's wedding. This is arguably the best way to end, after a decade of HIMYM.
- The series will stretch out to Ted's family life and end around season 10.
- I think you're right about the content, but I suspect a smaller time-scale (i.e., Barney and Robin's wedding taking place around mid-season, along with the The Mother's reveal, and the series ending with Season 8's finale — presumably Ted/The Mother's engagement or wedding).
The Front Porch Test is because of Lily's parent's divorce
Lily's dad divorced her mother, odds are he didn't stick around and even before that he seemed like a horrible parent, now Ted is basically the Team Dad
, Lily has said so, Robin too, probably everyone has, so to Lily, Ted is almost her surrogate father, she goes to him when she needs help or advice, he's a guiding hand for her when it comes to Lily/Marshall. So in the front porch episode, Lily was breaking Ted up with any women she thought might take Ted away from her thus taking her "Dad" away from her again.
Blitz is actually part of the main cast's Nakama
Blitz is a one-off character (played by Jorge Amado
who has the curse of deciding to leave before something cool happens. During the episode, he loses the "Blitz curse", passing it to Ted and then Barney (then gets it back in The Stinger
). During the episode, however, now that he no longer has the curse, he hangs out with Ted and the gang for the entire thing, as though this were something normal. No explanation for his sudden appearance is given—he's stated to be an old college friend of Ted and Marshall's—and he acts as though he's known all the other characters since forever, including Robin, who was introduced during the series. My theory? Blitz actually hangs out with the gang all the time, but we never see him because he always leaves before anything worthy of becoming an episode happens!
- The most awesome thing to happen to Ted is meeting the mother, and every episode is supposedly part of the story of how he ended up meeting the mother, making each episode, no matter what it is about, a moment of awesome on some level.
Lily lost the Slutty Pumpkin's number on purpose.
It's already common knowledge that Lily has purposely sabotaged Ted's previous relationships. Why would anyone think the Slutty Pumpkin was an exception? Did she really not know her number was on that Kit-Kat when she gave it to a Trick-Or-Treater? Since Ted first met the Slutty Pumpkin four years before the show started, it's possible that she might have been the first victim of Lily's infamous Front Porch Test.
- Unlikely. While Lily might sabotage Ted's relationships, she does honestly want him to be happy and gives him a lot of breathing room. I doubt she would immediately sabotage Ted's relationship with a girl that not only had she never met, but knew literaly NOTHING about.
The Wedding Bride Too will be a redemption story for Jeb Mosley
Dealing with him picking up the peices of his life after the Wedding Bride and finding an old love who is a composite of Robin and Victoria.
Season 8 WMG
This is assuming that this season will end up the last of the series, as the cast and creators seem to want the series to end before the show gets old and irrelevant.
- The second episode will focus on Barney getting a pre-nup for Quinn to sign, which causes trouble for the couples. This may end up being the moment when Barney and Quinn part ways.
- Marshall will deliver the seventh (and possibly eighth) slap on either the second to the last episode or the series finale.
- Victoria would end up reuniting with Klaus by being pressured on by Ted.
- Many significant characters from previous seasons (Stella, Zoey, Tony) may return. Brad has been confirmed to return the series.
- The Mother is Barney's half-sister, Carly. (Jossed)
The very, very, very last scene of the show...
- ...will have Barney and Robin, Ted and The Mother, and Lily and Marshall all sitting together on a front porch. In reference to Lily's front porch test from season 4. Bonus points if they're all elderly in this scene.
Patrice will be Barney's best man.
Jossed long ago, Ted is Barneys best man, but Patrice could be Robins Maid of Honor
- Damn it Patrice!
- Isn't Ted Robin's best man?
- Wait, has Ted met Patrice?
Cindy and her girlfriend's daughter...
...is actually both of theirs. I spent more time that I care to admit looking at the picture that came up of the three of them trying to figure out who the girl looked the most like, but she looked equally like both of them. Of course, it could just be that they chose a sperm donor that resembles the one that didn't carry her, but I like to think that by the time they had her, it's possible for same-sex couples to have kids biologically.
- Choosing a donor that looks like the "non-parent" is actually common practice.
- The donor could have been the cousin or brother of the "non-parent".
- Guys, guys. They have /lightsabers/ and /holographic cell phones/ in the future of HIMYM. Do you /really/ think they can't do female/female conception? Hell, I think they're on the cusp IRL.
- Wehll, the future has turned into the present, and they are still cusping it.
Barney's and Marshall's perpetual debate about which one of them is Ted's best friend is just one of Future Ted's inventions.
Considering what an ego Ted has and how many instances there are of all these people making up stuff about what people say about them, I'm surprised this never occured to me before.
Season 9 is going to be about the Mother
It's practically set in stone that the wedding day and the meeting is going to happen at the end of the 8th season, but with HIMYM filed for season 9, they'll probably use that to establish and develop her character, show her interactions with the group, as well as FINALLY give Ted some better development. The season will end in the mother and ted getting married
Jeanette is going to have a "if I cant have you no one can' moment on Ted.
But of course, it will tone it down, saying it's a Sitcom.
"Sandwich" does not refer to smoking weed.
It's some other drug, probably a much more potent one. You do not
confuse a remote control that's directly in front of you for a loaded harpoon while on weed. Or at least not for more than a second.
- Maybe it was laced with stronger spices.
Patrice is not as innocent as the show lets on.
So, we all know Robin has some sort of unexplained vendetta against Patrice, a woman who is seemingly nothing but nice to Robin and everyone else. But it's important to keep in mind that not only does Robin interact with her much more often than the rest of the gang do, but that the story is being told 15-20 years in the future by a somewhat Unreliable Narrator
and through the mental filter of his children. There's a good chance that Patrice is actually a Bitch in Sheep's Clothing
(or worse) and that Robin's distaste for her is completely justified.
Ted is dead.
He died when the truck hit his cab. Everything after that point is a lie, just a vision he has after his life flashes before his eyes.
- Think about it! Future!Ted has a boy and a girl. Just like he's always [[Pun wanTED]].
The woman with the umbrella in the Season 8 finale was not the mother.
They've been jerking us around for 8 years. Why stop now?
The last season will be 24 episodes about nothing else than the 56 hours before the wedding and the wedding itself.
The season will end
with Ted finally meeting the mother, but there will be much going on before that and Future Ted will tell every little detail.
- Dammit, you stole my theory!
The WHOLE SHOW is actually about Barney & Robin's relationship developing. Ted meeting the mother is actually the B story
Season 9 will have a new opening
Made of wedding photos
- With a number of recurring characters being at the forefront this sort of makes sence
The last episode will have a big musical number with the five leads and the mother
If you've ever heard the actress playing the mother sing, you know that it would be a tragic waste not to utilize her talents. And really, what better way to close out the present-day part of the show?
James didn't cheat on Tom - Tom cheated on him.
Maybe James is embarrassed and lying about what really happened. They'll be reunited by the end of the series after Tom apologizes and/or James forgives him.
In the final season, everything that was joked at, referred to, or implied will be realized.
For example, in "As Fast As She Can," Barney lamented that he was never able to talk his way out of a speeding ticket. Maybe he will this season. For another example, before he knew what it was, Barney thought one of the Robin Sparkles videos was a porno. Maybe we'll find out that Robin was
in a porno, or that someone did a Robin Sparkles porno.
Barney will actually get a bear to be the ring bear-er.
C'mon. It's Barney. Would he really need justification for such a thing?
Barney just cant pronounce bearer
He has absolutely no plans to have a ring bear, but he did procure a bear suit
- They will have a normal kid as the ring bearer, but he will be dressed up in a bear suit and it will be a-WAIT FOR IT-dorable.
After the series ends there will be a MOVIE
How I Met Your Mother: The Wedding Bride, the story of Ted and the mother's courtship.
In season 9, there will be a flash-forward to Ted and the Mother's relationship Once an Episode
(or almost once an episode.
The first one was to one year later, so my guess is, in every episode for the rest of the season, there will be a flash-forward, the next one to two years later, then three, then four, etc. All the way up until 2030, when The Mother suggests he tells the kids how they met.
Lily's driven away all of Robin's friends.
Robin has had female friends in the past, but Lily gets jealous and drives them away like she did in "The Broken Code". It makes a lot of sense.
Marshall will officiate Barney & Robin's wedding
He's now able to due to being a judge, and it would provide a nice symmetry to Barney officiating Marshall & Lily's small, private wedding.
The alternate universe where Ted follows through with his decision to move to Chicago results in the zombie apocalypse.
No zombie is safe from Chicago Ted!
Cassie and Linus will be the main characters of HIMYD.
The Person Lily called to pick her up was Scooter
He seems to be just about the only person I can think of she could call. Except maybe her dad. Where is Mickey at the moment?
Lily is not actually leaving.
She is going to do or get something or someone relevant to the argument she and Marshall were having and plans on coming back and proving a point.
Barney will become a magician soon after his wedding
We know that he loves magic and went to school for magic. We know he only took the corporate job for revenge. And we know that in a couple of months he's going to turn his boss in to the Feds, completing his revenge and probably making him unemployable in the corporate world. Robin can support him once they're married,
so why not return to a career he loves?
At least one of Justin and Kyle will be a main character in HIMYD
Jeannette will get karma retribution after the wedding
Just think about it: She is a cop and has been avoiding charges because of this. And Marshall has just been given the judge title. Shouldn't Ted use this sometime in his favor and finally keep Jeannette away from him once he and The Mother get together? They meeting each other won't stop Jeannette from harrasing them and The Mother has already been proven to be incapable of defending herself in confrontations, let alone going against a crazy cop.
- I doubt we'll even be seeing Jeanette again, but even if we do, the show seldom ever gives characters their due karma.
- Semi Confirmed/Mostly Jossed- she was arrested for mailing jars of urine to Val Khilmer (not the star) she narrowly avoided prison time. Happily Married to Kevin
Victoria's last name is Sponge
Because cakes. The show has been a lot wackier than this in the past. Why WOULDN'T the name of a woman who works as a baker be the same as that of a cake?
Kelly and Cindy will fill Barney and Marshall's roles in The Mother's wedding entourage
On occasion they will hang out with The Mother and Ted's friends at Mc Claren
Barney really wasn't drunk during season nine...
- He faked it so he could reveal to his closest friends the truth about what he really does and how much they mean to him. He's just to proud to say spit it out.
Marvin Waitforit Eriksen will be the father in How I Met Your Dad
- Because why not?
- Because he'd be 7?
- You don't know that. Maybe it's in the future.
- And among his group of close friends will be at least one of Ted's kids as well as Barney's daughter.
Robin is a trans woman
- My idea is that Robin Charles Scherbatsky II was, in fact, born a boy. But at about age fourteen, he realized he was a girl in a boy's body; his father was EXTREMELY transphobic about it, which is why he sent Robin to live with his mother. Luckily, she was more accepting about it, and Robin was able to get on hormones, get gender reassignment surgery, etc. to become a woman. Present Robin just told her friends the story about her father not accepting she was a female because, seriously, have you heard the transphobic jokes they make sometimes? She probably thought they'd reject her, plus her story makes her more sympathetic and makes her dad look like an even bigger jerk.
Gary Blauman's seeming nicer in the titular episode is due to Revertigo
Specifically, Pretty much all of his earlier appearances were with Bilson, who as we have seen, is a jerk. Blauman and him were clearly good friends so I reckon they went way back. As he's not with Bilson in any of the scenes in the episode his actual personality shines through more.
- I think that's the right idea, but they might not be old friends at all, it's just that Bilson and the other office guys' personalities rubbed off on Gary. It happened to Marshall in Life Among The Gorillas after only a short time.
Chicago Is a Thing
On Lucky Penny Ted's interview is in Chicago, The offer Robin and Don get in the end of season 5 includes moving to Chicago, on Last Words the reverend leaves because his daughter goes into labor in Chicago, on season 9 Ted is about to move to Chicago, and these are just the things I remember. Besides Chicago the only places that has been mentioned (which are not New York) are Marshall's Ted's and Robin's hometowns, Los Angeles (were Stella and Tony live now), and countries outside of the U.S. Nothing has never really happened in Chicago, however they keep mentioning it. This made me wonder – what is so special about Chicago? I couldn’t find the answer myself (maybe I just don’t remember), so I thought that maybe Chicago is more important than we think. Something is going to happen with Chicago towards the ending, all the signs are there.
- Ted decides to move to Chicago to work with Hammond Druthers, and refers to Chicago as a "Cleveland-y New York", to get away from Barney and Robin. He doesn't go.
Wendy the Waitress and Carl the Bartender are siblings
James and Tom got divorced a long time ago
And the guy he brings to dinner in "Rebound Girl" isn't The Other Darrin
, but instead a Replacement Goldfish
also named Tom.
The alternate ending will gradually replace the official ending and eventually be seen as the "canon" ending
Due to the massive fan backlash against the official ending and conversely the massive popularity of the alternate ending, expect the alternate ending to be broadcasted as the official ending sometimes in the future to the point where it will be seen as the "canon" ending, and any future anniversary DV Ds
will have the alternate ending tacked onto the finale with the original ending available to be viewed under special features under "original ending" with a history of why it was replaced by the alternate ending.