Pete Wentz, Patrick Stump, Joe Trohman, and Andy Hurley
One night and one more time Thanks for the memories, even though they weren't so great
Fall Out Boy are a pop-punk band from Illinois, home of Screeching Weasel, Naked Rayguns, Alkaline Trio, the Smoking Popes, and CheapTrick. Whether or not they belong to the "emo" genre depends on your definition of "emo" and that's quite a controversial label to go around slapping upon things these days, so we'll leave it up to you.The band consists of Patrick Stump (vocals, rhythm guitar), Joe Trohman (lead guitar), Pete Wentz (bassist, lyricist), and Andy Hurley (drums).The band is well known for such songs as "Dance, Dance," "Sugar, We're Going Down," "This Ain't a Scene, it's an Arms Race," "I Don't Care,", "Thnks fr th Mmrs", "America's Suitehearts", and "My Songs Know What You Did in the Dark (Light 'Em Up)". They have currently released six albums and have had better than a dozen singles total.They have numerous music videos, including one where they pretended to be vampire hunters that went on for about seven minutes (A Little Less Sixteen Candles, A Little More "Touch Me"), one with Turk from Scrubs and one ridiculous amount of Michael Jackson references (for their cover of "Beat It"). Other notable deeds the band has committed include one of them impregnating Ashlee Simpson, wearing remarkably tight trousers, almost getting a Guinness World Record for playing a live concert on all seven continents in a certain amount of time, getting a Guinness World Record for doing the most press interviews within a 24 hour time span, being loved by MarkHoppus, getting on Top of the Pops with a song about wanting to kill themselves and having some really strange lyrics. They also have a comic called Fall Out Toy Works, a Cyberpunk love story with one big mind screw of an ending. As is to be expected from them.They have nothing to do with the mascot of the Fallout game series, Vault Boy, and are named after Radioactive Man's faithful sidekick. They're often grouped together with Panic! at the Disco, The Academy Is, Gym Class Heroes, and Cobra Starship, mainly due to being True Companions, collaborating with each other on stuff (music or otherwise) often, and being signed to Fueled By Ramen (and to Pete's own vanity label, Decaydance Records).The band was on hiatus, (not a breakup, no matter what your friend tells you they've read on the internet that isn't directly from the band.) During the hiatus, Patrick started a solo musical effort, Pete started a dancehall band turned EDM act called the Black Cards, and Joe and Andy have wrapped up work with rock supergroup The Damned Things (also featuring members of Anthrax and Every Time I Die). Andy did guest drumming with Enabler and Joe started a new band called With Knives (where he does lead vocals).As of February 4, 2013, Fall Out Boy stated the end of their hiatus as they finished their recording of their newest album, "Save Rock And Roll", which came out April 16th, bumped up from its initial May release. Seriously. They then allowed fans to hear the whole album a week early on their Youtube and Soundcloud. They've spent the rest of 2013 touring, releasing a series of often bizarre and disturbing music videos for each song on the record (called "The Youngblood Chronicles", eight out of eleven videos released so far), and releasing an oldschool punk/hardcore/emocore produced by Ryan Adams. In the summer of 2014, they'll be hitting the road as co-headliners with Music/Paramore for Monumentour, which is already seen as one of the most highly anticipated rock tours of the year. As is to be expected of them.
Fall Out Boy's Evening Out with Your Girlfriend (2003)
Take This to Your Grave (2003)
From Under the Cork Tree (2005)
Infinity on High (2007)
Folie ŗ Deux (2008)
Believers Never Die-Greatest Hits (2009)
Save Rock and Roll (2013)
PAX AM Days (2013)
Do tropes apply to them? Why yes.
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Song and Standalone Music Video Tropes
Note: Due to the trope and spoiler filled nature of The Youngblood Chronicles music video series, it has its own folder.
All Just a Dream: The video for "The Take Over, The Break's Over", "This Ain't A Scene, It's An Arms Race" and "Beat It".
Anti-Love Song: Many, many of their songs, but "Bang the Doldrums" is a good example:
This is a love song in my own way/Happily ever after, below the waist.
"The Music or the Misery"
It's true, romance is dead, I shot it in the chest and in the head.
"Thnks fr th Mmrs," which tells the story of two people having sex just to get over people they broke up with
A teenage vow in a parking lot, till tonight do us part
"A Little Less 16 Candles..." is another pretty good example.
Arc Words: There are a few on the Save Rock and Roll album. "Do you want to feel beautiful?" "Poison"
Arms Race: A metaphorical example in the song "This Ain't A Scene, It's An Arms Race." While they're actually talking about the scene they came out of (which around 2006 was gaining major traction in the mainstream, with bands that were good and bands that were...mostly forgettable and mainly there to ride the trend to the top), the metaphorical verses fit this trope perfectly: "I am an arms dealer/Fitting you with weapons in the form of words/Yeah, don't really care which side wins/Long as the room keeps singing, that's just the business I'm in, yeah."
Break Up Song: It's more which ones aren't technically entirely break up songs.
Or which ones aren't break up songs at all, but are written in a way that reads as one.
Badass Boast: "My Songs Know What You Did In The Dark", Depending on interpretation could read as this.
I'm in the de-details with the devil/So now the world can never get me on my level/I just got to get you out of the cage/I'm a young lover's rage/Gonna need a spark to ignite
Dogged Nice Guy: The narrators of "Grand Theft Autumn" and "A Little Less Sixteen Candles".
Downer Ending: For the video for "A Little Less Sixteen Candles". Pete's arrested, the cops turn out to be vampires, it's implied Patrick, Andy, and Joe all got turned (or only Patrick got turned but all three of them still got arrested), William Beckett gets away, the Dandies have turned more people (or just outright killed them), and god only knows exactly what happened to the vampire faction that was there when the Dandies showed up.
Extraverted Nerd: Patrick Stump (and to a lesser extent the rest of the band) in "Dance Dance".
Fun with Acronyms: Averted by "w.a.m.s." Not only is "wams" not a word, but the band has also never said what it stands for, making it an entirely pointless acronym (although some have speculated that it stands for "Writer/Actor/Model/Singer").
"G.I.N.A.S.F.S." actually stands for "Gay Is Not A Synonym For Shitty", but for some reason got abbreviated before its release as a bonus track for Infinity on High
I'm sitting out dances on the wall/Trying to forget anything that isn't you/I'm not going home alone/'cause I don't do too well on my own
And the opening lines are:
I'm sleeping my way out of this one/With anyone who will lie down
Hidden Depths: "You're Crashing, But You're No Wave" was written about Fred Hampton, Jr., a black nationalist activist arrested for having allegedly committed arson and whose father, the leader of the Black Panthers, was gunned down by police in his home without a proper trial.
Mind you, this is only really hidden depths for those who weren't aware of Fall Out Boy's background inhardcore punk, where subjects like this tend to be addressed more often...only a lot more directly than Pete's usual approach to lyric writing. If you ever hear a Fall Out Boy song where Pete just starts growling out a verse, that's the hardcore showing. Heck, even Patrickcan do unclean vocals when he wants to. And then there's the PAX AM Days EP...
Another example of the trope that makes more sense if you're aware of the band's background: the song "20 Dollar Nose Bleed" is about a veteran of the Iraq War who became addicted to drugs. The second verse is about George W. Bush, and it isn't... praising, to say the least.
It feels like fourteen carats but no clarity When I looked at the man who would be king, the man who would be king Goes to the desert, the same warhis dad rehearsed Came back with flags and coffins and said, "We won, oh, we won."
Incredibly Long Note: Patrick has "range like no motherfucker knows" and it shines through every other song. The Mighty Fall may be one of the most amazing range showing songs.
"The Take Over, The Break's Over" has a very impressive long note/a very impressive long "fair"
Incompatible Orientation: "Sugar, We're Goin Down" is said by some to have originally been about this, as the lyrics in the liner notes say "Wishing to be the friction in his jeans" instead of "in your jeans"; the song also includes references to "watching [a couple making love] from the closet" and "sleeping for the wrong team."
Lonely Together: "Alone Together". Pete mentioned the main theme being how "Music never leaves you alone, and punk rock will always be there when nothing else will", which considering the many friendships made due to their fans connecting with each other through their music and for those who say the band's music helped them through hard times, is especially fitting.
Long Title: Many of their songs, some of which are parodies.
Lyrical Dissonance: 7 Minutes in Heaven (Atavan Halen), which is about Wentz's suicide attempt, is written to happy, fun music. It's quite misleading. Most of the lyrics on Infinity On High gets this treatment too.
"Hum Hallelujah" is similarly about Wentz's suicide attempt, and also fairly upbeat.
Peter stated that I Don't Care was "Like the chorus says, 'I don't care what you think as long as it's about me.' It's that pop culture thing again, where people don't care about anything but the superficial, and I think there's something so tragic about that. I also thought there was something so ironically anthemic about the chorus, where it's not something you want to sing along to, because it's vacuous and empty. So I wanted something really anthemic underneath it, like something you'd hear at sports games or whatever, because I wanted people to hear it and be confronted with how empty that is. I didn't want anything to be superficial on this record unless the point was to point out superficiality".
Lyrics/Video Mismatch: Constantly appearing in their music videos, ever since the Take This To Your Grave days. And it's only gotten more ridiculous from there.
If anyone is willing to explain what "A Little Less Sixteen Candles, A Little More Touch Me" has to do with vampire hunting, please enlighten us.
And if anyone can see the connection between the lyricsof "Sugar We're Going Down" and human-deer hybrids, that would seriously en-deer him/her to us. (The band originally kept getting video concepts that made just as much sense but were woefully generic, including one involving a pool party, so when the video treatment with good ol' Deer Boy came along, they leapt at it.)
Let's not even get started with their Young Blood Chronicles series of music videos. Someone should give them a hand for keeping up with this trope for so long.
Mondegreen: Because of Patrick's singing style, you sometimes won't know what the hell he's saying. This has started some common fandom in-jokes such Patrick being a little man, who's also evil and also into cats (by way of "This Ain't A Scene, It's An Arms Race") and the unofficial fandom holiday, Heavy Irish Pepper Day (by way of "Nobody Puts Baby In The Corner", which falls on February 4th each year.) The band and other acts associated with have acknowledged the mondegreen based in-jokes, most notably with having their official comeback in 2013 fall on Heavy Irish Pepper Day.
Actually invoked with "Sugar, We're Goin' Down". Patrick's admitted to slurring the lyrics to the chorus, because he thought they sounded better.
Non-Appearing Title: It would be easier to list their songs that don't do this. As a general rule, the longer the title, the less likely it is to appear in the song; a notable exception is "My Songs Know What You Did In The Dark (Light Em Up)", in which both the title and subtitle appear.
Some other exceptions: "This Ain't A Scene It's an Arms Race", "Dance, Dance", "Sugar We're Going Down", "Thnks Fr Th Mmrs", "Dead On Arrival", "I Don't Care", "America' Suitehearts", "Hum Hallelujah", "Calm Before the Storm", "Saturday", "The Music or the Misery", "Honorable Mention", and "Parker Lewis Can't Lose". The last half of "Grand Theft Autumn/Where Is Your Boy" appears, but not the first half. There are a few others, but that's most of the exceptions. It's probably no coincidence that this looks like a list of their most popular songs.
The entirety of Save Rock and Roll averts this. Every song title appears in its song.
Of Corpse He's Alive: The entire premise of the video for "Headfirst Slide Into Cooperstown On A Bad Bet". Brendon and Spencer of Panic! at the Disco discover Pete's body and decide to take him out for a day of fun and then dump him back on the beach where they found him...minus Pete's effects.
Our Lawyers Advised This Trope: The title of the first track on From Under The Cork Tree is a parody of this. (Though it is rumored that their lawyers actually did make them change the name of the song, from "My Name is David Ruffin...and These are The Temptations.")
The Phoenix: "The Phoenix", which was the second song they released after returning from their hiatus.
Recycled Lyrics: "I'll check in tomorrow/if I don't wake up dead" appears in both "Alone Together" and "Rat A Tat" from Save Rock and Roll. Justified in that "Rat A Tat" is referencing "Alone Together".
The best way to make it through / With hearts and wrists intact / Is to realize two out of three ain't bad / Ain't bad!
Unexpected Character: Fall Out Boy has featured a surprising amount of rappers, for a punk band, including Jay-Z, Big Sean, Lil Wayne, and even 2Chainz.
A remix for "This Ain't A Scene, It's An Arms Race" that was originally intended to be on Infinity on High featured Kanye West, but a remix of THAT remix also featured Paul Wall (who was their tourmate alongside +44 on the Honda Civic Tour), Skinhead Rob (of punk-rap group The Transplants, affiliated with blink-182 and +44), Travis McCoy (of Gym Class Heroes), Lil' Wayne (who'd later guest on Folie a Deux), Lupe Fiasco (who'd later have Patrick produce and do backing vocals for Little Weapon off his album The Cool and did guest vocals for the radio version of This City off of Patrick's solo album, Soul Punk) and Tyga (Travis McCoy's cousin, originally signed to Decaydance's little known rap imprint "Batsquad" alongside Gym Class Heroes for his first album No Introduction).
Babyface produced "Thnks fr th Mmrs" and "I'm Like a Lawyer" off of Infinity on High and Pharrell produced "w.a.m.s." off of Folie a Deux.
Word Salad Lyrics: A lot of Folie a Deux. Most of it has meaning assigned to it, but a lot of it sounds like complete nonsense without explanation. An example from "Headfirst Slide into Cooperstown on a Bad Bet":
Tempest in a teacup Get unique Peroxide princes shine like shark teeth It's a sign (It's a sign) It's a sign (It's a sign) It's a sign - what if you peaked early?
Adorkable: Each member has their moments, but Patrick takes the cake.
Cassandra Truth: During the filming of the video for "My Songs Know What You Did In The Dark", 2Chainz posted a picture of him with Pete mentioning working on something with Fall Out Boy. Thing is, while Fall Out Boy was active as a band then, they had been working in secret and hadn't made an official comeback announcement yet. Despite Fall Out Boy being a band that has a long history of being surprisingly chummy with rappers note Fall Out Boy had Jay-Z and Lil Wayne on their albums and remixes featuring Kanye West, & Lupe Fiasco among other rappers. They even had 50 Cent of all people on their last headlining tour before hiatus., the band has claimed that somehow no FOB fan believed that 2Chainz was telling the truth about the collaboration.
This might have been less due to fans being collectively ignorant about Fall Out Boy's rap crossover background and more due to fans being fed up with the countless comeback rumors floating around during the band's hiatus. With various gossip websites and jokers like Beau Bokan setting off the fandom BS detector, the fans were bound to get it wrong at some point when someone actually told the truth.
Such as simulating oral sex on Brendon Urie, kissing Patrick on the neck during live shows, and being just affectionate towards guys. Maybe not so faux after all, he claims to be bisexual but "isn't a fan of penises".
Guyliner: One of the many reasons Pete got attention (both positive and negative) back in the day. He's long since stopped, but you'll still have people who either hate Fall Out Boy or haven't been paying attention to Fall Out Boy bringing it up as if it were still 2006. Heck, there are even some fans who REALLY want it back.
Patrick wore eyeliner once or twice and Pete also had some fairly detailed face makeup going on during Folie a Deux touring.
Pete: me and patrick can finish eachothers sentences. this is what makes it so funny when people ask us if we care that you think the the other one is hotter or cooler, or how much everyone makes a big deal about who writes what or is where in photos. we donít care. that kid is my best friend and the rest of the world could blow up and fall out boy can break up and he still will be.
Lead Bassist: Pete exemplified being a Type C pre-hiatus (to the point where interviewers sometimes thought he was the singer), but post-hiatus, Patrick, Andy, and Joe get a fairer share of attention (very much on purpose)
Manly Tears: Drummer Andrew Hurley admitted in Rolling Stone to shedding some before what he wondered could be their final concert - the October 4, 2009 show at Madison Square Garden.
Patrick would often shed these during and after singing "What a Catch, Donnie" on the Save Rock & Roll Arena Tour.
Most Writers Are Male: Some of Wentz's lyrics are uncomfortably unsporting and spiteful regarding ex-girlfriends, but aren't necessarily aimed at women in general. This is toned down on later albums, though.
Fan consensus assumes that was due to his getting married to Ashlee Simpson, his chilling out as a result, and it generally not being acceptable for a newlywed to publicly bitch about exes anymore. His being divorced hasn't changed this: only one of the songs on "Save Rock and Roll" is about the divorce and he's stated as writing it from a more adult perspective rather than simply lashing out.
Odd Friendship: Fall Out Boy gets on well with rappers, rappers get on well with Fall Out Boy, and regardless of the numerous times it has happened almost always gets a confused reaction from people.
Pete is very good friends with Pat Monahan of Train, meeting due to Fall Out Boy and Train sharing the same management team. Pete, during FOB's hiatus, actually directed the music video for If It's Love.
Pete and Patrick. Scratch that, the whole band.
Pop-Cultural Osmosis Failure: Fall Out Boy is known for making various references to pop culture in their song titles and interviews, but due to the constant influx of younger fans coming into the fandom over the course of a decade, some of them are bound to...either not get the reference or assume that when people are making reference to the original media that it's actually a reference to the band, mixed in with a little Older Than They Think.
Back when Sugar, We're Goin' Down was getting major radio traction, more pedantic people were quick to note that any references made to being "#1 with a bullet" were more likely a reference to the Billboard charts than the song.
Their Spinal Tap themed live performance on Conan got some fans spooked when Pete got "stuck" in one of the pods...not even Harry Shearer showing up seemed to tip people off that it was staged. Thankfully, Team Coco provided a link to the exact scene in Spinal Tap that FOB was referencing in their performance for the benefit of those who didn't get the reference and also didn't get the show where they're at.
Thankfully averted whenever the band makes references to John Hughes movies.
Real Person Fic: Scores of slash on Livejournal. Patrick/Pete is the OTP of many, and much of it shockingly well written.
Patrick doesn't mind people making fanfic or shipping. What he does mind is constantly getting questions about it on Twitter. This is done usually done by people who don't know about his prior tweets stating his opinion, people trolling for validation by way of a reply instead of asking a proper question, and, well, trolls. Pete probably gives the less cares about shipping than the actual band, what with him deliberately being a Ship Tease but...just ask the band questions about things that don't involve shipping and fanfic in general. The band (and fanfic writers) will be grateful.
Shout-Out: Their name came from a literal shout-out when they asked a crowd what their name should be, which in of itself was a shoutout to The Simpsons character, Fallout Boy.
Some song titles are shoutouts as well. For example, "Nobody Puts Baby In The Corner" and "Tell That Mick He Just Made My List Of Things To Do Today" double as lines from Dirty Dancing and Rushmore, and "Pretty In Punk" is a pun-based shoutout to Pretty in Pink. "Grand Theft Autumn" is actually a reference to the Braid song of the same name, but is often confused by many fans as a reference to Grand Theft Auto.
"Thnks fr th Mmrs" has a line in the chorus, "he tastes like you, only sweeter," which is from the film Closer.
One of their sets during the Blink182 reunion tour was LOST themed.
Supporting Leader: Pete. Although Patrick is the lead singer, Pete gets the most credit for being the songwriter and face of the band and is even sometimes miscredited as the singer. They're getting on a more equal level after the hiatus, however.
Less so after the hiatus, although Pete and Patrick still gain most of the attention.
True Companions: The whole band is this to some extent, but it wasn't until after the hiatus that this became much more evident. The hiatus was partially due to not wanting their friendship to burn out to years of constant touring and making sure that Pete got to spend actual quality time with his son while he was still an infant. They still kept in touch during the hiatus and Andy and Joe even worked together in The Damned Things.
An Arm and a Leg: In "The Phoenix" video, Patrick loses his hand. If only they could have left it at limb loss...
Abandoned Hospital: Double Subverted in "Where Did the Party Go", which takes place in an abandoned hospital that doesn't actually seem to be creepy at all. Except the boys are running from Patrick, who is stalking the halls. Also, Patrick himself sees the hospital as a straight version of this trope.
Anti-Climax: All of "The Mighty Fall" video qualifies - Big Sean gets killed before really doing anything, everyone spent most of the video running from crazy children, and Patrick's golden-eyed-devil thing is only briefly toyed with.
Anyone Can Die: If the deaths of Big Sean and some of the children perusing him in the video of The Mighty Fall weren't enough to convince you, Patrick killing Joe in Where Did The Party Go and Andy being killed in Rat a Tat will.
Followed by the "Young Volcanoes" and "Alone Together" videos. Poor EVERYONE.
Darker and Edgier: Compared to their previous videos. The second video, for "The Phoenix", features each member of the band being kidnapped by strange masked women and Patrick getting tortured with his hand cut off and sent to Pete's door in a plastic bag. Owwwwwwwwwwwwwww! Not for the squeamish. "Young Volcanoes" takes this Up to Eleven. There is a warning on the video. Probably because of the topless woman wearing a pig mask. And the forced drug use. And the forced cannibalism. And then, Up To TWELVE with "Alone Together." Where all four guys are captured and tortured, Pete kills one of the girls, and Patrick gets turned evil. And the dial might as well broke off when "Where Did the Party Go" came out what with Patrick killing Joe. God only knows what the rest of the series holds.
The video for "The Mighty Fall" had a huge Hope Spot and settled for a Bittersweet Ending with the band being set free from a fiery van by Big Sean and Andy, Joe and Pete narrowly escaping being bludgeoned to death while Patrick reverts to normal after momentarily going evil. The bitter part is that the person who helped set them free got axed to death in the process of saving them, leaving the band all separated and alone in the dark woods.
Eye Colour Change: In the "Alone Together" video, Patrick's eyes are turned to a golden yellow through mysterious methods.
Forced to Watch: Very subtly in "Young Volcanoes". Patrick is the only one not wearing a blindfold while the women feed them all Patrick's organs.
Hellevator: In "Death Valley", the elevator can go to both Heaven and Hell...but this is the Youngblood Chronicles, do you honestly think Heaven is an option?
Hell Is That Noise / Brown Note: In-Universe in "The Mighty Fall" video. Patrick has a case of this when the little kid who helped kidnap him starts chasing him with an old-school boombox, implying that Patrick knows what it's for. The kid turns it on, which plays something the audience doesn't hear but Patrick does and he turns evil as a result before Big Sean comes in, snaps the kid's neck and turns the boombox off, turning Patrick back to normal and leaving him confused.
Hope Spot: In the "Death Valley" video. It might end with Patrick getting taken away by the female goons and Joe is still dead, but more importantly, Pete and Andy now know just who the hell they're up against...and they have weapons.
I'm a Humanitarian: In the "Young Volcanoes" video, the band (under the influence of drugs), eats human organs. PATRICK'S organs.
Just for Pun: Patrick's hand gets cut off in the music video for "The Phoenix". All he's left with is a Stump.
Stairway to Heaven: Nearly this for Joe...then one of the kids that got offed in "Alone Together" video switches the direction the elevator is going in...
Surreal Music Video: An 11 part series, featuring such as Pete Wentz vomiting up a snake, forced drug usage and consumption of organs while people in pig mask dance around the band, little girls lobbing produce at Joe in a straitjacket for no apparant reason, the contrast between Big Sean's verse in The Mighty Fall and the way he gets KILLED when he's singing it and MORE.
Up to Eleven: All 11 songs on Save Rock and Roll will have their own video, part of an entire narrative. Nine have been released so far for "My Songs Know What You Did In The Dark", "The Phoenix", "Young Volcanoes", "Alone Together", "The Mighty Fall", "Just One Yesterday","Where Did the Party Go", "Death Valley", and "Rat A Tat", each weirder than the last.