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22nd Feb '17 10:43:03 PM Scsigs
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* SellOut: Gonna keep this as short and sweet as I can here. They've been having this thrown at them since ''Infinity On High'', as they ironed out most of the Emo sound introduced on their second album into more of an Alt. Rock and PopPunk sound. However, you'll have more and more former fans, and others, throwing this at them more and more these days with their 2013 and 2015 albums not only having a more Pop sound than previous releases, but their writing style has turned into more of a style over substance approach with each successive album as they've gotten more noticeably Poppy and use less and less of their main instruments in favor of orchestration and synths. The only notable improvement since the old days being Patrick's vocals being a definite improvement, since he's learned to sing differently and much better since the old days, but that's about it. On top of that, the guys seemingly turning the band into more of a business to milk all of the cash from their fanbase as possible with their merchandise with not a lot of good music to back up the need for it has really left a bad taste in older fans' mouths. Plus the copious amount of touring and fast music making they do, which is one of the reasons they got burnt out the first time around, seems to suggest that they don't care too much about improving upon what they did wrong the first time around and just want to make as much money as possible. You really have to wonder where their headspaces are after looking at these facts.

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* SellOut: Gonna keep this as short and sweet as I can here. They've been having this thrown at them since ''Infinity On High'', as they ironed out most of the Emo sound introduced on their second album into more of an Alt. Rock and a more general PopPunk sound. However, you'll have more and more former fans, and others, throwing this at them more and more these days with their 2013 and 2015 albums not only having a more Pop sound than previous releases, but their writing style has turned into more of a style over substance approach with each successive album as they've gotten more noticeably Poppy and use less and less of their main instruments in favor of orchestration and synths. The only notable improvement since the old days being Patrick's vocals being a definite improvement, since he's learned to sing differently and much better since the old days, but that's about it. On top of that, the guys seemingly turning the band into more of a business to milk all of the cash from their fanbase as possible with their merchandise with not a lot of good music to back up the need for it has really left a bad taste in older fans' mouths. Plus the copious amount of touring and fast music making they do, which is one of the reasons they got burnt out the first time around, seems to suggest that they don't care too much about improving upon what they did wrong the first time around and just want to make as much money as possible. You really have to wonder where their headspaces are after looking at these facts.
22nd Feb '17 10:41:29 PM Scsigs
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* SellOut: Gonna keep this as short and sweet as I can here. They've been having this thrown at them since ''Infinity On High'', as they ironed out most of the Emo sound introduced on their second album into more of an Alt. Rock/PopPunk sound. However, you'll have more and more former fans, and others, throwing this at them more and more these days with their 2013 and 2015 albums not only having a more Pop sound than previous releases, but their writing style has turned into more of a style over substance approach with each successive album as they've gotten more noticeably Poppy and use less and less of their main instruments in favor of orchestration and synths. The only notable improvement since the old days being Patrick's vocals being a definite improvement, since he's learned to sing differently and much better since the old days, but that's about it. On top of that, the guys seemingly turning the band into more of a business to milk all of the cash from their fanbase as possible with their merchandise with not a lot of good music to back up the need for it has really left a bad taste in older fans' mouths. Plus the copious amount of touring and fast music making they do, which is one of the reasons they got burnt out the first time around, seems to suggest that they don't care too much about improving upon what they did wrong the first time around and just want to make as much money as possible. You really have to wonder where their headspaces are after looking at these facts.

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* SellOut: Gonna keep this as short and sweet as I can here. They've been having this thrown at them since ''Infinity On High'', as they ironed out most of the Emo sound introduced on their second album into more of an Alt. Rock/PopPunk Rock and PopPunk sound. However, you'll have more and more former fans, and others, throwing this at them more and more these days with their 2013 and 2015 albums not only having a more Pop sound than previous releases, but their writing style has turned into more of a style over substance approach with each successive album as they've gotten more noticeably Poppy and use less and less of their main instruments in favor of orchestration and synths. The only notable improvement since the old days being Patrick's vocals being a definite improvement, since he's learned to sing differently and much better since the old days, but that's about it. On top of that, the guys seemingly turning the band into more of a business to milk all of the cash from their fanbase as possible with their merchandise with not a lot of good music to back up the need for it has really left a bad taste in older fans' mouths. Plus the copious amount of touring and fast music making they do, which is one of the reasons they got burnt out the first time around, seems to suggest that they don't care too much about improving upon what they did wrong the first time around and just want to make as much money as possible. You really have to wonder where their headspaces are after looking at these facts.
22nd Feb '17 10:40:09 PM Scsigs
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Fall Out Boy are a pop-punk band from Illinois, home of Screeching Weasel, Naked Raygun, Alkaline Trio, the Music/SmokingPopes, and [[TheLastOfTheseIsNotLikeTheOthers Cheap]] [[Music/CheapTrick Trick]]. Whether or not they belong to the "Music/{{emo}}" genre depends on your definition of "{{emo}}" and that's quite a controversial label to go around slapping upon things these days, so we'll leave it up to you.[[note]]They might not define themselves as such by any definition of the word and the influence they took from early emo acts like Braid are all but gone from "Folie A Deux" onward, but since when has that ever stopped anybody from trying?[[/note]]

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Fall Out Boy are a pop-punk band from Illinois, home of Screeching Weasel, Naked Raygun, Alkaline Trio, the Music/SmokingPopes, and [[TheLastOfTheseIsNotLikeTheOthers Cheap]] [[Music/CheapTrick Trick]]. Whether or not they belong they've belonged to the "Music/{{emo}}" genre depends on your definition of "{{emo}}" and that's quite a controversial label to go around slapping upon things these days, so we'll leave it up to you.[[note]]They might not define themselves as such by any definition of the word and the influence they took from early emo acts like Braid are all but gone from "Folie A Deux" onward, but since when has that ever stopped anybody from trying?[[/note]]


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* SellOut: Gonna keep this as short and sweet as I can here. They've been having this thrown at them since ''Infinity On High'', as they ironed out most of the Emo sound introduced on their second album into more of an Alt. Rock/PopPunk sound. However, you'll have more and more former fans, and others, throwing this at them more and more these days with their 2013 and 2015 albums not only having a more Pop sound than previous releases, but their writing style has turned into more of a style over substance approach with each successive album as they've gotten more noticeably Poppy and use less and less of their main instruments in favor of orchestration and synths. The only notable improvement since the old days being Patrick's vocals being a definite improvement, since he's learned to sing differently and much better since the old days, but that's about it. On top of that, the guys seemingly turning the band into more of a business to milk all of the cash from their fanbase as possible with their merchandise with not a lot of good music to back up the need for it has really left a bad taste in older fans' mouths. Plus the copious amount of touring and fast music making they do, which is one of the reasons they got burnt out the first time around, seems to suggest that they don't care too much about improving upon what they did wrong the first time around and just want to make as much money as possible. You really have to wonder where their headspaces are after looking at these facts.
20th Feb '17 8:46:13 PM bt8257
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The band is well known for such songs as "Dance, Dance," "Sugar, We're Going Down," "This Ain't a Scene, it's an Arms Race," "I Don't Care," "Thnks fr th Mmrs", "America's Suitehearts", and "My Songs Know What You Did in the Dark (Light 'Em Up)". They have currently released six albums and have had better than a dozen singles total.

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The band is well known for such songs such as "Dance, Dance," "Sugar, We're Going Down," "This Ain't a Scene, it's an Arms Race," "I Don't Care," "Thnks fr th Mmrs", "America's Suitehearts", and "My Songs Know What You Did in the Dark (Light 'Em Up)". They have currently released six albums and have had better than a dozen singles total.



* BadassLongCoat: The woman in "Jet Pack Blues" has one.

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* BadassLongCoat: BadassLongcoat: The woman in "Jet Pack Blues" has one.
7th Nov '16 8:16:04 PM Unit02
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* FunWithAcronyms: {{Averted|Trope}} by "w.a.m.s." Not only is "wams" not a word, but the band has also never said what it stands for, making it an entirely pointless acronym (although some have speculated that it stands for "Writer/Actor/Model/Singer", though the band rejected this notion).
** "G.I.N.A.S.F.S." actually stands for "Gay Is Not A Synonym For Shitty", but for some reason got abbreviated before its release as a bonus track for Infinity on High.

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* FunWithAcronyms: {{Averted|Trope}} by "w.a.m.s." Not only is "wams" not a word, but the band has also never said what it stands for, making it an entirely pointless acronym (although some (some have speculated that it stands for "Writer/Actor/Model/Singer", "Writer/Actor/Model/Singer," though the band rejected this notion).
** "G.I.N.A.S.F.S." actually stands for "Gay Is Not A Synonym For Shitty", but for some reason got abbreviated was censored to an abbreviation before its release as a bonus track for Infinity ''Infinity on High.High''.



* LyricalDissonance: ''7 Minutes in Heaven (Atavan Halen)'', which is about Wentz's suicide attempt, is written to happy, fun music. It's quite misleading. Most of the lyrics on Infinity On High gets this treatment too.

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* LyricalDissonance: ''7 "7 Minutes in Heaven (Atavan Halen)'', Halen)," which is about Wentz's suicide attempt, is written to happy, fun music. It's quite misleading. Most of the lyrics on Infinity ''Infinity On High High'' gets this treatment too.



** Peter stated that I Don't Care was "Like the chorus says, 'I don't care what you think as long as it's about me.' It's that pop culture thing again, where people don't care about anything but the superficial, and I think there's something so tragic about that. I also thought there was something so ironically anthemic about the chorus, where it's not something you want to sing along to, because it's vacuous and empty. So I wanted something really anthemic underneath it, like something you'd hear at sports games or whatever, because I wanted people to hear it and be confronted with how empty that is. I didn't want anything to be superficial on this record unless the point was to point out superficiality".
* LyricsVideoMismatch: Constantly appearing in their music videos, ever since the Take This To Your Grave days. And it's only gotten more ridiculous from there.

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** Peter Pete stated that I "I Don't Care Care" was "Like the chorus says, 'I don't care what you think as long as it's about me.' It's that pop culture thing again, where people don't care about anything but the superficial, and I think there's something so tragic about that. I also thought there was something so ironically anthemic about the chorus, where it's not something you want to sing along to, because it's vacuous and empty. So I wanted something really anthemic underneath it, like something you'd hear at sports games or whatever, because I wanted people to hear it and be confronted with how empty that is. I didn't want anything to be superficial on this record unless the point was to point out superficiality".
superficiality."
* LyricsVideoMismatch: Constantly appearing in their music videos, ever since the Take ''Take This To Your Grave Grave'' days. And it's only gotten more ridiculous from there.



** Now, courtesy of "Centuries", we have "We've been here forever and here's ''the frozen fruit''"

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** Now, courtesy of "Centuries", we have "We've been here forever and here's ''the frozen fruit''"fruit''."



* MinisculeRocking: Pax Am Days. None of the songs are over two minutes.

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* MinisculeRocking: Pax ''Pax Am Days.Days''. None of the songs are over two minutes.



** However, the band has completely {{averted|Trope}} this post-hiatus. Every song they've released includes the title in the lyrics.
* NoSuchThingAsBadPublicity: In-universe. The theme of "I Don't Care" ("I don't care what you think, as long as it's about me.").
* NervousWreck: "I'm a nervous wreck" STATED in West Coast Smoker, but thoroughly implied in From Under The Cork Tree...and pretty much all the albums pre-hiatus.

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** However, the band has completely {{averted|Trope}} this post-hiatus. Every song they've released includes the title in the lyrics.
lyrics, even the OverlyLongTitle "My Songs Know What You Did in the Dark (Light 'Em Up)."
* NoSuchThingAsBadPublicity: In-universe. The theme of "I Don't Care" ("I don't care what you think, as long as it's about me.").
me").
* NervousWreck: "I'm a nervous wreck" STATED ''stated'' in West "West Coast Smoker, Smoker," but thoroughly implied in From ''From Under The Cork Tree...Tree''... and pretty much all the albums pre-hiatus.



* PopPunk: Fall Out Boy are the {{Trope Codifier}}s for modern day PopPunk (although a case could feasibly be made for Music/{{Paramore}}). Unlike bands that came before them like Sum 41 and Music/{{Blink 182}}, they avoided puerile lyrics. They didn't shy away from goofball antics in their music videos, but the most immature of these were kept out, instead showing up in tour update videos and an infamous Jackass-style DVD called Release the Bats. This helped Fall Out Boy from getting pigeonholed, compared to blink-182 who had to deal with backlash and general confusion when they tried transitioning to more serious material, and also influenced acts like Music/AllTimeLow to take a similar approach. They also adopted more of a sense of urgency, emo, and slight hardcore punk influence to their music. They also brought in a myriad of outside genre influences (most notably on ''Folie A Deux'') and weren't afraid to acknowledge pop punk has ''pop'' in it. They also introduced a postmodern, DeadpanSnarker attitude to the lyrics and song titles, which heavily inspired a few bands afterward (most notably Music/PanicAtTheDisco and Cute Is What We Aim For). Their debut album ''Take This To Your Grave'' is considered one of the greatest and influential genre albums.

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* PopPunk: Fall Out Boy are the {{Trope Codifier}}s for modern day PopPunk (although a case could feasibly be made for Music/{{Paramore}}). Unlike bands that came before them like Sum 41 Music/{{Sum 41}} and Music/{{Blink 182}}, they avoided puerile lyrics. They didn't shy away from goofball antics in their music videos, but the most immature of these were kept out, instead showing up in tour update videos and an infamous Jackass-style Television/{{Jackass}}-style DVD called Release ''Release the Bats. Bats''. This helped Fall Out Boy from getting pigeonholed, compared to blink-182 Music/{{Blink 182}} who had to deal with backlash and general confusion when they tried transitioning to more serious material, and also influenced acts like Music/AllTimeLow to take a similar approach. They also adopted more of a sense of urgency, emo, and slight hardcore punk influence to their music. They also brought in a myriad of outside genre influences (most notably on ''Folie A Deux'') and weren't afraid to acknowledge pop punk has ''pop'' in it. They also introduced a postmodern, DeadpanSnarker attitude to the lyrics and song titles, which heavily inspired a few bands afterward (most notably Music/PanicAtTheDisco and Cute Is What We Aim For).Music/PanicAtTheDisco). Their debut album ''Take This To Your Grave'' is considered one of the greatest and influential genre albums.



* PunctuatedForEmphasis: It being music, there's plenty. One example: ''This ain't a scene, it's a God! Damned! Arms! Race!''

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* PunctuatedForEmphasis: It being music, there's plenty. One example: ''This example:
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ain't a scene, it's a God! Damned! Damn! Arms! Race!''Race!''\\



** Other instances of this trope being used as a CallBack are "What a Catch, Donnie" on ''Folie a Deux''[[note]]Which references "Grand Theft Autumn", "Sugar, We're Going Down", "Dance Dance", "This Ain't A Scene, It's An Arms Race", "Thnks fr the Mmrs", and "Growing Up" (from ''Evening Out With Your Girlfriend''[[/note]] and "Save Rock and Roll" from the album of the same name[[note]]which references "Chicago Is So Two Years Ago" (from ''Take This To Your Grave'') and "Sugar, We're Goin' Down" (from ''From Under The Cork Tree'')[[/note]].

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** Other instances of this trope being used as a CallBack are "What a Catch, Donnie" on ''Folie a Deux''[[note]]Which references "Grand Theft Autumn", "Sugar, We're Going Down", "Dance Dance", "This Ain't A Scene, It's An Arms Race", "Thnks fr the Mmrs", and "Growing Up" (from ''Evening Out With Your Girlfriend''[[/note]] Up"[[/note]] and "Save Rock and Roll" from the album of the same name[[note]]which references "Chicago Is So Two Years Ago" (from ''Take This To Your Grave'') and "Sugar, We're Goin' Down" (from ''From Under The Cork Tree'')[[/note]].



** While Jay-Z doesn't drop his name in the intro or outro for "Thriller", he does go ''YO! F-O-B!'' right before the song segues into "The Take Over, The Break's Over".

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** While Jay-Z doesn't drop his own name in the intro or outro for "Thriller", he does go ''YO! F-O-B!'' right before the song segues into "The Take Over, The Break's Over".Over."



* TakeThat: The ending of the Uma Thurman video, where Pete asks Sarah to do one last thing...to run over a truck labeled with [[http://ftpcontent4.worldnow.com/waff/moore-order-samesex.pdf Article 1, Section 36.03]], Alabama's "Sanctity of Marriage Act" that banned same sex marriage in the state.

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* TakeThat: The ending of the Uma Thurman "Uma Thurman" video, where Pete asks Sarah to do one last thing...thing... to run over a truck labeled with [[http://ftpcontent4.worldnow.com/waff/moore-order-samesex.pdf Article 1, Section 36.03]], Alabama's "Sanctity of Marriage Act" that banned same sex marriage in the state.



** A remix for "This Ain't A Scene, It's An Arms Race" that was originally intended to be on Infinity on High featured Music/KanyeWest, but a remix of THAT remix also featured Paul Wall (who was their tourmate alongside +44 on the Honda Civic Tour), Skinhead Rob (of punk-rap group The Transplants, affiliated with blink-182 and +44), Travis [=McCoy=] (of Gym Class Heroes), Lil' Wayne (who'd later guest on Folie a Deux), Music/LupeFiasco (who'd later have Patrick produce and do backing vocals for [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rKmdRdNO7s Little Weapon]] off his album The Cool and [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhTYFuRWheU did guest vocals for the radio version of This City]] off of Patrick's solo album, Soul Punk) and Tyga (Travis [=McCoy=]'s cousin, originally signed to Decaydance's little known rap imprint "Batsquad" alongside Gym Class Heroes for his first album No Introduction).
** Babyface produced "Thnks fr th Mmrs" and "I'm Like a Lawyer" off of Infinity on High and Pharrell produced "w.a.m.s." off of Folie a Deux.

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** A remix for "This Ain't A Scene, It's An Arms Race" that was originally intended to be on Infinity ''Infinity on High High'' featured Music/KanyeWest, but a remix of THAT remix also featured Paul Wall (who was their tourmate alongside +44 on the Honda Civic Tour), Skinhead Rob (of punk-rap group The Transplants, affiliated with blink-182 and +44), Travis [=McCoy=] (of Gym Class Heroes), GymClassHeroes), Lil' Wayne (who'd later guest on Folie ''Folie a Deux), Deux''), Music/LupeFiasco (who'd later have Patrick produce and do backing vocals for [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rKmdRdNO7s Little Weapon]] off his album The Cool ''The Cool'' and [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhTYFuRWheU did guest vocals for the radio version of This City]] off of Patrick's solo album, Soul Punk) ''Soul Punk'') and Tyga (Travis [=McCoy=]'s cousin, originally signed to Decaydance's little known rap imprint "Batsquad" alongside Gym Class Heroes for his first album No Introduction).
''No Introduction'').
** Babyface produced "Thnks fr th Mmrs" and "I'm Like a Lawyer" Lawyer..." off of Infinity ''Infinity on High High'', and Pharrell produced "w.a.m.s." off of Folie ''Folie a Deux.Deux''.



* FormerlyFat: Patrick. While not terribly overweight, Patrick was heavier from around the end of the From Under The Cork Tree album cycle to around Folie A Deux. Starting around the last tour they did before hiatus, due to health concerns, he dropped upwards of ''seventy pounds''. His solo effort, "Soul Punk", had him looking alarmingly slender, but after the hiatus he looks to have evened out quite nicely.

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* FormerlyFat: Patrick. While not terribly overweight, Patrick was heavier from around the end of the From ''From Under The Cork Tree Tree'' album cycle to around Folie ''Folie A Deux.Deux''. Starting around the last tour they did before hiatus, due to health concerns, he dropped upwards of ''seventy pounds''. His solo effort, "Soul Punk", ''Soul Punk'', had him looking alarmingly slender, but after the hiatus he looks to have evened out quite nicely.



** Brought back in their Drunk History of Fall Out Boy video, where Pete's eyeliner was apparently an important part of the band's history, according to Brendon. Since they're acting out Brendon's description, Pete puts it back on.

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** Brought back in their Drunk "Drunk History of Fall Out Boy Boy" video, where Pete's eyeliner was apparently an important part of the band's history, according to Brendon.Brendon of Music/PanicAtTheDisco. Since they're acting out Brendon's description, Pete puts it back on.



* MostWritersAreMale: Some of Wentz's lyrics are uncomfortably unsporting and spiteful regarding ex-girlfriends, but aren't necessarily aimed at women in general. This is toned down on later albums, though. Fan consensus assumes that was due to his getting married to Ashlee Simpson, his chilling out as a result, and it generally not being acceptable for a newlywed to publicly bitch about exes anymore. His being divorced hasn't changed this: only one of the songs on "Save Rock and Roll" is about the divorce and he's stated as writing it from a more adult perspective rather than simply lashing out.

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* MostWritersAreMale: Some of Wentz's lyrics are uncomfortably unsporting and spiteful regarding ex-girlfriends, but aren't necessarily aimed at women in general. This is toned down on later albums, though. Fan consensus assumes that was due to his getting married to Ashlee Simpson, his chilling out as a result, and it generally not being acceptable for a newlywed to publicly bitch about exes anymore. His being divorced hasn't changed this: only one of the songs on "Save ''Save Rock and Roll" Roll'' is about the divorce and he's stated as writing it from a more adult perspective rather than simply lashing out.



** Back when Sugar, We're Goin' Down was getting major radio traction, more pedantic people were quick to note that any references made to being "#1 with a bullet" were more likely a reference to the Billboard charts than the song.

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** Back when Sugar, "Sugar, We're Goin' Down Down" was getting major radio traction, more pedantic people were quick to note that any references made to being "#1 with a bullet" were more likely a reference to the Billboard charts than the song.



** Their Spinal Tap themed live performance on Conan got some fans spooked when Pete got "stuck" in one of the pods... Not even Harry Shearer showing up seemed to tip people off that it was staged. Thankfully, Team Coco provided a link to the exact scene in Spinal Tap that FOB was referencing in their performance for the benefit of those who didn't get the reference and also didn't get the show where they're at.

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** Their Spinal Tap themed ThisIsSpinalTap-themed live performance on Conan Television/{{Conan}} got some fans spooked when Pete got "stuck" in one of the pods... Not even Harry Shearer showing up seemed to tip people off that it was staged. Thankfully, Team Coco provided a link to the exact scene in Spinal Tap that FOB was referencing in their performance for the benefit of those who didn't get the reference and also didn't get the show where they're at.



* AnyoneCanDie: [[spoiler: Patrick, Pete, Joe, Andy, Big Sean, the little kid that delivered Patrick's hand to Pete, and even some of Fall Out Boy's kidnapped fans]] have been killed. However, just because anyone can die doesn't mean they stay dead.
* [[spoiler: BlackDudeDiesFirst: On the heroes side - Big Sean, we hardly knew ye.]]

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* AnyoneCanDie: [[spoiler: Patrick, Pete, Joe, Andy, Big Sean, the little kid that delivered Patrick's hand to Pete, and even some of Fall Out Boy's kidnapped fans]] have been killed. However, just because anyone can die doesn't mean they stay ''stay'' dead.
* [[spoiler: BlackDudeDiesFirst: On [[spoiler:On the heroes heroes' side - Big Sean, we hardly knew ye.]]



* MythologyGag: In the video for "My Songs", 2Chainz burns a few months before they actually came back some drums, drumsticks, one of Pete's basses, a mic stand, the From Under the Cork Tree album, a Black Clouds and Underdogs tour t-shirt, the Take This To Your Grave vinyl, some old TTTYG era FOB merch, the ***: Live In Phoenix CD/DVD, the Evening Out With Your Girlfriend EP, and issues of ComicBook/FallOutToyWorks. This wasn't intended as a TakeThat to any of those things (except for EOWTG, Patrick acknowledged that he "wanted it burned" in the VH1 commentary), they just burned stuff there was plenty of copies of and/or could be easily replaced.

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* MythologyGag: In the video for "My Songs", Songs...", 2Chainz burns a few months before they actually came back some drums, drumsticks, one of Pete's basses, a mic stand, the From ''From Under the Cork Tree Tree'' album, a Black Clouds and Underdogs tour t-shirt, the Take ''Take This To Your Grave Grave'' vinyl, some old TTTYG era TTTYG-era FOB merch, the ***: ''****: Live In Phoenix Phoenix'' CD/DVD, the Evening ''Evening Out With Your Girlfriend Girlfriend'' EP, and issues of ComicBook/FallOutToyWorks. ''ComicBook/FallOutToyWorks''. This wasn't intended as a TakeThat to any of those things (except for EOWTG, which Patrick acknowledged that he "wanted it burned" in the VH1 commentary), they just burned stuff there was plenty of copies of and/or could be easily replaced.
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* {{Bookends}}: In their album ''Infinity on High''. The first track starts with the chatter of people entering an auditorium and the last track ends in applause.
4th Aug '16 10:51:24 AM Angeldeb82
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The band is well known for such songs as "Dance, Dance," "Sugar, We're Going Down," "This Ain't a Scene, it's an Arms Race," "I Don't Care,", "Thnks fr th Mmrs", "America's Suitehearts", and "My Songs Know What You Did in the Dark (Light 'Em Up)". They have currently released six albums and have had better than a dozen singles total.

They have numerous music videos, including one where they pretended to be vampire hunters that went on for about seven minutes (A Little Less SixteenCandles, A Little More "Touch Me"), one with Turk from ''Series/{{Scrubs}}'' and one ridiculous amount of Michael Jackson references (for their cover of "Beat It"). Other notable deeds the band has committed include one of them impregnating Ashlee Simpson ''and'' a model, wearing remarkably tight trousers, almost getting a Guinness World Record for playing a live concert on all seven continents in a certain amount of time, getting a Guinness World Record for doing the most press interviews within a 24 hour time span, being loved by [[Music/{{Blink 182}} Mark]] [[{{TropeCodifier}} Hoppus]], getting on ''Series/TopOfThePops'' [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RdF9_uFFNw with a song]] with a past history of homosexual subtext, and having some really strange lyrics. They also have a comic called ''ComicBook/FallOutToyWorks'', a {{Cyberpunk}} love story with [[GainaxEnding one big mind screw of an ending]]. As is to be expected from them.

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The band is well known for such songs as "Dance, Dance," "Sugar, We're Going Down," "This Ain't a Scene, it's an Arms Race," "I Don't Care,", Care," "Thnks fr th Mmrs", "America's Suitehearts", and "My Songs Know What You Did in the Dark (Light 'Em Up)". They have currently released six albums and have had better than a dozen singles total.

They have numerous music videos, including one where they pretended to be vampire hunters that went on for about seven minutes (A Little Less SixteenCandles, A Little More "Touch Me"), one with Turk from ''Series/{{Scrubs}}'' and one ridiculous amount of Michael Jackson references (for their cover of "Beat It"). Other notable deeds the band has committed include one of them impregnating Ashlee Simpson ''and'' a model, wearing remarkably tight trousers, almost getting a Guinness World Record for playing a live concert on all seven continents in a certain amount of time, getting a Guinness World Record for doing the most press interviews within a 24 hour time span, being loved by [[Music/{{Blink 182}} Mark]] [[{{TropeCodifier}} [[TropeCodifier Hoppus]], getting on ''Series/TopOfThePops'' [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RdF9_uFFNw with a song]] with a past history of homosexual subtext, and having some really strange lyrics. They also have a comic called ''ComicBook/FallOutToyWorks'', a {{Cyberpunk}} love story with [[GainaxEnding one big mind screw of an ending]]. As is to be expected from them.



* BreakUpSong: It's more which ones aren't technically entirely break up songs. Or which ones aren't break up songs at all, but are written in a way that reads as one.

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* BreakUpSong: BreakupSong: It's more which ones aren't technically entirely break up songs. Or which ones aren't break up songs at all, but are written in a way that reads as one.



* {{Emo Music}}: One of the most contentious topics you'll hear discussed about the band, as the page intro would tell you. Your understanding of emo likely informs whether or not you think emo was a footnote in FOB's story or a defining aspect. In the mid-00s, Fall Out Boy were seen by some as the poster children for "emo pop", described as a style mixing the gloominess and hardcore punk elements of emo with catchy pop punk. That being said, a lot of bands including Fall Out Boy were lumped into that categorization and mocked to the point where that categorization would be considered a smear rather than an accurate assessment of their genre. As mentioned in the note on top of the page, Fall Out Boy took influence from early emo acts such as Braid (The title of Grand Theft Autumn is a direct reference to a Braid song of the same name), but the band started swerving from that path as soon as Infinity on High, even as soon as From Under The Cork Tree if you're feeling charitable. The early emo influence fell out in favor of general pop rock with a particular emphasis on the ''pop'' and [[GenreRoulette experimentation in other genres]] by way of incorporating elements of hip-hop, electronic music, and others. Even with the early emo influences, Fall Out Boy never considered themselves an emo band and often rejected being lumped in with the other bands that got put into the category around the mid-00s, even calling the tendency out lyrically on Thriller[[note]]Make us poster boys for your scene, but we are not making an acceptance speech[[/note]] and the entirety of "This Ain't A Scene, It's An Arms Race".

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* {{Emo Music}}: EmoMusic: One of the most contentious topics you'll hear discussed about the band, as the page intro would tell you. Your understanding of emo likely informs whether or not you think emo was a footnote in FOB's story or a defining aspect. In the mid-00s, Fall Out Boy were seen by some as the poster children for "emo pop", described as a style mixing the gloominess and hardcore punk elements of emo with catchy pop punk. That being said, a lot of bands including Fall Out Boy were lumped into that categorization and mocked to the point where that categorization would be considered a smear rather than an accurate assessment of their genre. As mentioned in the note on top of the page, Fall Out Boy took influence from early emo acts such as Braid (The title of Grand Theft Autumn is a direct reference to a Braid song of the same name), but the band started swerving from that path as soon as Infinity on High, even as soon as From Under The Cork Tree if you're feeling charitable. The early emo influence fell out in favor of general pop rock with a particular emphasis on the ''pop'' and [[GenreRoulette experimentation in other genres]] by way of incorporating elements of hip-hop, electronic music, and others. Even with the early emo influences, Fall Out Boy never considered themselves an emo band and often rejected being lumped in with the other bands that got put into the category around the mid-00s, even calling the tendency out lyrically on Thriller[[note]]Make us poster boys for your scene, but we are not making an acceptance speech[[/note]] and the entirety of "This Ain't A Scene, It's An Arms Race".



* FunWithAcronyms: [[AvertedTrope Averted]] by "w.a.m.s." Not only is "wams" not a word, but the band has also never said what it stands for, making it an entirely pointless acronym (although some have speculated that it stands for "Writer/Actor/Model/Singer", though the band rejected this notion).

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* TheFunInFuneral: Patrick tries to make the guests happy and make them sing at Pete's (apparent) funeral in "This Ain't a Scene, It's an Arms Race".
* FunWithAcronyms: [[AvertedTrope Averted]] {{Averted|Trope}} by "w.a.m.s." Not only is "wams" not a word, but the band has also never said what it stands for, making it an entirely pointless acronym (although some have speculated that it stands for "Writer/Actor/Model/Singer", though the band rejected this notion).



* GaniaxEnding: A few songs end with strange chant-like poems as a last verse. One of the most odd examples would be 'Twenty Dollar Nose Bleed' which is an upbeat pop song otherwise.

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* GaniaxEnding: GainaxEnding: A few songs end with strange chant-like poems as a last verse. One of the most odd examples would be 'Twenty Dollar Nose Bleed' which is an upbeat pop song otherwise.



** If anyone is willing to explain what "A Little Less Sixteen Candles, A Little More Touch Me" has to do with ''[[OurVampiresAreDifferent vampire hunting]]'', please [[IncrediblyLamePun enlighten]] us.
** And if anyone can see the connection between [[StalkerWithACrush the lyrics]] of [[IntercourseWithYou "Sugar We're Going Down"]] and human-deer hybrids, that would seriously en-[[IncrediblyLamePun deer]] him/her to us. (The band originally kept getting video concepts that made just as much sense but were woefully generic, including one involving a pool party, so when the video treatment with good ol' Deer Boy came along, they leapt at it.)
** Let's not even get started with their Young Blood Chronicles series of music videos. Someone should [[RuleOfThree give them]] [[IncrediblyLamePun a hand]] for keeping up with this trope for so long.
** When you make a cheesy basketball themed music video for a song about an unhealthy relationship, then make another video for it focusing on pug doggy shenanigans, then team up with Demi Lovato to kinda remake an *NSYNC music video? it's safe to say your band finds this trope [[OverlyLongGag Irresi]][[IncrediblyLamePun stible]].
* {{Mondegreen}}: Because of Patrick's singing style, [[TheUnintelligible you sometimes won't know what the hell he's saying.]] This has started some common fandom in-jokes such Patrick being a little man, who's also evil and also into cats (by way of "This Ain't A Scene, It's An Arms Race") and the unofficial fandom holiday, Heavy Irish Pepper Day (by way of "Nobody Puts Baby In The Corner", which falls on February 4th each year.) The band and other acts associated with have acknowledged the mondegreen based in-jokes, most notably with having their official comeback in 2013 fall on Heavy Irish Pepper Day.

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** If anyone is willing to explain what "A Little Less Sixteen Candles, ''Sixteen Candles'', A Little More Touch Me" 'Touch Me'" has to do with ''[[OurVampiresAreDifferent vampire hunting]]'', please [[IncrediblyLamePun [[{{Pun}} enlighten]] us.
** And if anyone can see the connection between [[StalkerWithACrush the lyrics]] of [[IntercourseWithYou "Sugar "Sugar, We're Going Down"]] and human-deer hybrids, that would seriously en-[[IncrediblyLamePun en-[[{{Pun}} deer]] him/her to us. (The band originally kept getting video concepts that made just as much sense but were woefully generic, including one involving a pool party, so when the video treatment with good ol' Deer Boy came along, they leapt at it.)
** Let's not even get started with their Young Blood Chronicles series of music videos. Someone should [[RuleOfThree give them]] [[IncrediblyLamePun [[{{Pun}} a hand]] for keeping up with this trope for so long.
** When you make a cheesy basketball themed music video for a song about an unhealthy relationship, then make another video for it focusing on pug doggy shenanigans, then team up with Demi Lovato to kinda remake an *NSYNC music video? it's safe to say your band finds this trope [[OverlyLongGag Irresi]][[IncrediblyLamePun Irresi]][[{{Pun}} stible]].
* {{Mondegreen}}: Because of Patrick's singing style, [[TheUnintelligible you sometimes won't know what the hell he's saying.]] saying]]. This has started some common fandom in-jokes such Patrick being a little man, who's also evil and also into cats (by way of "This Ain't A Scene, It's An Arms Race") and the unofficial fandom holiday, Heavy Irish Pepper Day (by way of "Nobody Puts Baby In The Corner", which falls on February 4th each year.) The band and other acts associated with have acknowledged the mondegreen based in-jokes, most notably with having their official comeback in 2013 fall on Heavy Irish Pepper Day.



* MythologyGag: Fall Out Boy's "What a Catch, Donnie" has lines from several of their songs ("Grand Theft Autumn", "Sugar We're Going Down", "Dance, Dance", plus others) sung in the background during the third stanza.

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* MythologyGag: Fall Out Boy's "What a Catch, Donnie" has lines from several of their songs ("Grand Theft Autumn", "Sugar "Sugar, We're Going Goin' Down", "Dance, Dance", plus others) sung in the background during the third stanza.



** However, the band has completely [[AvertedTrope averted]] this post-hiatus. Every song they've released includes the title in the lyrics.

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** However, the band has completely [[AvertedTrope averted]] {{averted|Trope}} this post-hiatus. Every song they've released includes the title in the lyrics.



* RecycledLyrics: "I'll check in tomorrow/if I don't wake up dead" appears in both "Alone Together" and "Rat A Tat" from ''Save Rock and Roll''. [[JustifiedTrope Justified]] in that the latter is referencing the former.
** Other instances of this trope being used as a CallBack are "What a Catch, Donnie" on ''Folie a Deux''[[note]]Which references "Grand Theft Autumn", "Sugar, We're Going Down", "Dance Dance", "This Ain't A Scene, It's An Arms Race", "Thnks fr the Mmrs", and "Growing Up" (from ''Evening Out With Your Girlfriend''[[/note]] and "Save Rock and Roll" from the album of the same name[[note]]which references "Chicago Is So Two Years Ago" (from ''Take This To Your Grave'') and "Sugar We're Going Down" (from ''From Under The Cork Tree'')[[/note]].

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* RecycledLyrics: "I'll check in tomorrow/if I don't wake up dead" appears in both "Alone Together" and "Rat A Tat" from ''Save Rock and Roll''. [[JustifiedTrope Justified]] {{Justified|Trope}} in that the latter is referencing the former.
** Other instances of this trope being used as a CallBack are "What a Catch, Donnie" on ''Folie a Deux''[[note]]Which references "Grand Theft Autumn", "Sugar, We're Going Down", "Dance Dance", "This Ain't A Scene, It's An Arms Race", "Thnks fr the Mmrs", and "Growing Up" (from ''Evening Out With Your Girlfriend''[[/note]] and "Save Rock and Roll" from the album of the same name[[note]]which references "Chicago Is So Two Years Ago" (from ''Take This To Your Grave'') and "Sugar "Sugar, We're Going Goin' Down" (from ''From Under The Cork Tree'')[[/note]].
30th May '16 8:09:09 AM TheOneWhoTropes
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They have numerous music videos, including one where they pretended to be vampire hunters that went on for about seven minutes (A Little Less SixteenCandles, A Little More "Touch Me"), one with Turk from ''Series/{{Scrubs}}'' and one ridiculous amount of Michael Jackson references (for their cover of "Beat It"). Other notable deeds the band has committed include one of them impregnating Ashlee Simpson ''and'' a model, wearing remarkably tight trousers, almost getting a Guinness World Record for playing a live concert on all seven continents in a certain amount of time, getting a Guinness World Record for doing the most press interviews within a 24 hour time span, being loved by [[Music/{{Blink 182}} Mark]] [[{{TropeCodifier}} Hoppus]], getting on ''TopOfThePops'' [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RdF9_uFFNw with a song]] with a past history of homosexual subtext, and having some really strange lyrics. They also have a comic called ''ComicBook/FallOutToyWorks'', a {{Cyberpunk}} love story with [[GainaxEnding one big mind screw of an ending]]. As is to be expected from them.

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They have numerous music videos, including one where they pretended to be vampire hunters that went on for about seven minutes (A Little Less SixteenCandles, A Little More "Touch Me"), one with Turk from ''Series/{{Scrubs}}'' and one ridiculous amount of Michael Jackson references (for their cover of "Beat It"). Other notable deeds the band has committed include one of them impregnating Ashlee Simpson ''and'' a model, wearing remarkably tight trousers, almost getting a Guinness World Record for playing a live concert on all seven continents in a certain amount of time, getting a Guinness World Record for doing the most press interviews within a 24 hour time span, being loved by [[Music/{{Blink 182}} Mark]] [[{{TropeCodifier}} Hoppus]], getting on ''TopOfThePops'' ''Series/TopOfThePops'' [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RdF9_uFFNw with a song]] with a past history of homosexual subtext, and having some really strange lyrics. They also have a comic called ''ComicBook/FallOutToyWorks'', a {{Cyberpunk}} love story with [[GainaxEnding one big mind screw of an ending]]. As is to be expected from them.
30th May '16 7:08:57 AM kansaiwillow
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* MixedAncestry: Pete's half-black, with his mother and her entire family being Afro-Jamaican.
27th May '16 9:52:47 PM Ekat_Clan
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