Not Cheating Unless You Get Caught
"Cheating seems to be a relevant term only when one is caught in the act. Otherwise it is viewed as intelligence, no?"Rules are made to be broken, and that goes double for these rules. Basically, the protagonists are given rules which are less instructions for keeping order and safety, and more a Secret Test Of Sneakiness. It's understood by all parties that the rule is not to be followed, and the only question is whether you can break it without getting caught. A common way to "win" an Unwinnable Training Simulation (which may or may not be the point). This sometimes takes the form of an admonishment not to cheat on an upcoming game/test/whatever, which comes so out-of-the-blue that it can only be interpreted as an encouragement to cheat. Compare Could Say It But. Take it further and you realize Real Life history is Written by the Winners. Compare Can't You Read the Sign? and Do Wrong, Right. And sometimes the villain in What You Are in the Dark, or the foolhardly fellow teenager in Youth Is Wasted on the Dumb urges this trope to encourage something actually wrong. Note that regardless of what The Casanova might say about the other kind of "cheating", it's nothing to do with this trope.
—HK-47, Knights of the Old Republic
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Anime and Manga
- In Death Note, Light Yagami claims that if Kira is caught, he's evil. However, if he isn't, he is justice.
- In the third chapter of Fullmetal Alchemist, Ed transmutes waste into gold, claiming that: "If we don't get caught, we won't get caught." Immediately afterward, he double-crosses his accomplice by reversing the transmutation; since the transmuted gold was a bride of shady legality, the person he gave it to can't report Ed for swindling him without admitting his own corruption.
- In a very early Naruto episode, during the Chunin exams the ninjas-in-training are given a difficult written test with the unusual rule that they cannot be caught cheating more than four times. So, needless to say, all of the skilled students discreetly use their ninja skills to do so without getting caught. Which was, of course, the entire point. (They would have to pass anyway—a few students were plants that actually had correct answers, so copying them was the goal—but it was just a Hidden Purpose Test.)
- Earlier in Soul Eater, Black*Star tries to peep on Tsubaki while she's bathing, he being who he is, yells and gets a shuriken in the forehead. The thing is Tsubaki wasn't mad at him spying her but at him not being able to conceal his presence. This makes the discovery of Tsubaki being the most lustful out of the group a bit more sensible and a lot more amusing.
- JoJo's Bizarre Adventure:
- D'arby the Gambler, user of the Osiris Stand, has this as his motto. For example, it's not his fault that Polnareff didn't know that, when they were betting on what meat a cat would eat first, the cat belonged to D'arby (and thus D'arby could choose which piece would be eaten). Jotaro later uses this mantra against D'arby's brother, Terrence.
- This is invoked in Part 4 when Josuke challenges Rohan to a dice game, while planning on cheating using a shapeshifting (possible) alien disguised as a pair of dice. Unfortunately, said alien turns out to be terrible at being subtle about giving Josuke good rolls, and Rohan quickly catches on that he's cheating. Fortunately, he's more angry at himself for not being able to figure out how Josuke is cheating, and allows him to continue on the condition that if he does figure it out, Josuke forfeits one of his fingers.
- The first rule of the Games Club in Higurashi: When They Cry: Win at all costs. Including using marked cards, bribing your opponents, pulling a Twin Switch...
- The Legend of Koizumi. It's practically understood that cheating is part of the game as long as you don't get caught. And sometimes, it's still not considered cheating even if you do get caught if you do it in an audacious enough manner, like when Koizumi's effort in cheating caused his entire body to be set ablaze. Getting caught, however, can be fatal As Otto Skorzony finds out when Dubya catches his tileswapping trick.
- Toriko's Gourmet Casino arc lives and dies on this trope. Coco's future-seeing abilities allow him to effortlessly win practically all of the casino's games. Livebearer, the arc's Big Bad, on the other hand, runs a game that is designed to give him every advantage he can think of.
- Kurosagi: Kurosaki isn't afraid to waltz around telling potential clients he's a professional swindler because no one is able to prove it
- One of the Ten Pledges of No Game No Life is that anyone caught cheating automatically loses. None of them actually forbid cheating. Sora and Shiro take advantage of this many times.
- In One Piece the Foxy Pirates take this one step further. It's only cheating if the referee catches you, and since the referee is a member of the Foxy Pirates...
- In No Game No Life's world, everything is settled by a game. Whether it's a business deal, or for the throne of a kingdom, you must win at a game. Using magic is considered cheating, but human beings cannot detect magic so members of magical races tend to win games against humans.
- In Charlotte, he got away with it for quite a while, but Yu eventually falls under the suspicion of cheating. To make matters worse for him, Nao has him on camera cheating. He runs off in a panic, but is caught by Joujirou, who has Super Speed.
- According to the official rules, if a player lands on property owned by another player, the property owner has until the second player after that rolls the dice to demand rent. After that, the player gets away scott free. "No sneaks" is a popular house rule that removes this clause; if the property owner suddenly remembers the oversight later, they are still owed rent.
- Some House Rules let the Banker help himself to as much free money as he can get away with (for added realism), with various creative punishments if they're caught. In games that don't use such a rule, the Banker just has to be that much sneakier about it.
- If a non-word is played in Scrabble, but nobody challenges it before the next player takes their turn, the word stands. This has resulted in at least one situation in competitive play where somebody has pluralised their opponent's non-word, only for it to be successfully challenged by the guy who originally set it down.
- Actively part of the fluff in Blood Bowl. Refs can be bribed to not call illegal play, may not see the illegal play, or may be too afraid of the crowd's reaction to call anything.
- Heidenfeld - Kerins, Dublin 1973. White castled twice, even though this is flagrantly against the rules, which state that a player can only castle if neither the king nor the rook have moved before. Amazingly, Black let this stand, and the move was so ballsy that Tim Krabbé has actually listed the match as a record (scroll down to "greatest number of castlings") even though that move would never fly if both sides were paying attention.
- BattleCON has the bonus character Mark PTO, who has cheating as a passive ability. Getting caught doesn't actually stop the cheating, instead the opponent figures out what you changed by cheating then it gets undone.
- Unhinged, one of the joke sets for Magic: The Gathering has a card called Cheatyface, which you're allowed to put into play for free as long as your opponent doesn't catch you doing it.
- A flare in the original version of Cosmic Encounter gives its owner a similar power: if you have the filch card in your hand, you can filch cards from the draw deck or discard pile, and reclaim your own destroyed ships, as long as nobody sees you do it. If you're caught, however, you have to put what you stole back, and an extra ship of yours is destroyed. The most recent remake includes this card as an optional variant.
- Steve Jackson Games' conspiracy-theory themed card game Illuminati has a set of "cheating" rules in which almost anything goes (e.g. stealing money from the bank, misstating the powers of your cards, etc) as long as you don't get caught. (If you do get caught, the only penalty is that you have to undo that specific cheating attempt.) It is recommended that you play this version of the game only with "very good friends or people you will never see again."
- The entire premise of the card game known varyingly as Cheat, BS, or I Doubt It. You put down a certain number of cards in a matching set (such as two aces or three kings) face down onto a pile, declaring what they are, while everyone else watches and either leaves you be or calls you out for cheating. The idea is to get rid of all your cards in your hand before anyone else does, and it is possible to cheat by dropping down cards you didn't call (such as saying you dropped two aces when they were really a 6 and a 9). If you are called out while you cheat, you have to pick up the whole pile for cheating, but if you weren't cheating when they called you out, they have to pick the pile up. It is very much possible to cheat without anyone calling you out on it so long as you don't make it painfully obvious (such as dropping 5 queens, or a card someone else has all 4 of), and in fact, frequently required since passing is not allowed (at least in the standard version - variants that allow passing exist).
- People are divided as to whether or not (or to what extent) you are allowed to cheat otherwise. One school of thought is that since it's the name of the game, you should cheat as much as possible by hiding cards or playing more cards than you declare so you can't be caught cheating. The other school allows only cheating in the predefined method..
- In general, any card game that has a specific rule against cheating is really saying this trope. To catch someone cheating, you must accurately describe their cheating action, or be penalized yourself for a false accusation.
- In Euchre, there is a significant advantage to being the dealer. Normally, the deal passes to the left after each hand, but the dealer's partner (or in cutthroat, any player) may gather the cards and attempt to shuffle and deal. If they're caught before they finish, they have to pass the deck to the proper dealer, but once the deal is complete, the hand must be played.
- In UNO!, you are not allowed to play a Wild Draw Four card unless you have no cards in your hand of the color of the faceup card on the table. Attempt to do so, and you won't be penalized, unless another player calls you for it. (Which they sometimes do just to look at your hand.) Even better, the challenger can be penalized for an improper challenge.
- Largely averted in modern poker, which has evolved an elaborate system of etiquette designed to prevent any player from receiving the slightest unfair advantage ("angle shooting"). Of course, this largely came about in response to poker's reputation as a game of cheats and liars, and that reputation didn't come out of nowhere....
- Certain cards in Munchkin allow you to cheat in plain view of the other players. The rules themselves cite this.
- Coup uses this as a game mechanic. Each player has a card that gives him certain ability (and can be traded), but a player can use any ability in the game, so long as no one challenges him on it.
- Knights of the Dinner Table: Official Hard 8 policy is that any rule in one of their games stands as written unless an official erratum regarding it has been issued. Playtesters sometimes insert deliberate errors into games to create broken rules for players to take advantage of, until Hard 8 catches on and issues an erratum. One storyline centres around Bob acquiring a marked copy of Cattlepunk that identifies all these 'special rules', and then badly overplaying his hand.
Films — Animated
- In Aladdin, the title character remarks about his stealing food from the marketplace, "you're only in trouble if you get caught!". Which segues into this little exchange:
Razul: Gotcha!Aladdin: I'm in trouble.
Films — Live-Action
- In the movie Spies Like Us one of the two "heroes" (to use the term loosely) managed to pressure the other into helping him cheat on their government promotion tests, through good, old-fashioned Chevy Chase-style chuztpah. When discovered, in order to cover themselves, they worked together by reflex to cover each other. The CIA test givers were so impressed that they gave them an immediate promotion to field agents. (Of course, this was a plot to throw expendable agents into the field as a diversion for more nefarious activities ... but the trope connection is solid.)
- In Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan, Kirk reveals that he rigged the Kobayashi Maru test to make the scenario winnable... and got a commendation for "original thinking."
- In Star Trek (2009 film), the alternate Kirk was court-martialed. But the plot interferes before Alternate-Kirk has a proper chance to defend himself, so it is never seen if he would have been able to talk his way out of the situation or gotten expelled. Presumably something similar happened to Kirk-Prime, but if he was being a bit less of an ass about the whole thing (and if he had some powerful friends), he might have gotten away with it.
- In Back to School, Derek (Robert Downey Jr.), best friend of the main character's son, uses sunlight reflected from a mirror, and then an air horn, to distract divers from the opposing dive team, preventing them from making good dives so that his friend can win.
- In Ski School, the "good guys" Ski team must beat the Big Bad and other innocent bystander competitors to stay on the slopes, so they pull shenanigans like pouring oil on the snow to make their competitors slip and fall, or have buxom ladies flash passing skiers to make their competitors slip and fall. High fives all around.
- Pirates of the Caribbean: The Pirate Code is really more a set of "guidelines", or "suggestions". At least they are on the open seas; not so much when Captain Teague, Keeper of the Code is in the room with a loaded gun. Still some room for...liberal interpretation, of course.
- In the Discworld Assassins' Guild, student assassins are given a list of places which are out-of-bounds. This is defined not as places they can't go, but as places they can't be seen by a master, which gives them lots of practice at the stealth skills Guild members are required to have.
- Even better, the Assassin's Guild Diary states that any boy not caught being out of bounds at least once per year gets detention unless they can prove that they were there but were not caught.
- It's considered a pass on your final exam if you assassinate your examiner—though, considering he's an experienced assassin himself, you're advised to be very sure that you will succeed before trying.
- In Tamora Pierce's Tortall Universe books, Pages and Squires train at the Palace. One of the rules is "don't get into fights". Of course, pages and squires fight all the time (and are caught, given the resulting injuries), but the traditional excuse is "I fell down". When "Alan" is being bullied on a regular basis and learns a less-honorable style of fighting to beat the bully, they are read the riot act. Except not, because their teacher is secretly glad the bully was dealt with and the protagonist reflects on this rule as they are being told off.
- In Harry Potter's Triwizard Tournament, cheating is a more or less accepted tradition that every single side engages in. When Harry (who was entered into it against his will) tells Cedric that they're up against dragons in the first task, Moody doesn't bat an eye.
Moody: Cheating's a traditional part of the Triwizard Tournament and always has been....I've been telling Dumbledore from the start, he can be as high-minded as he likes, but you can bet old Karkaroff and Maxime won't be. They want to win. They want to beat Dumbledore. They'd like to prove he's only human.
- In Larry Niven's Known Space stories, a Belter (asteroid belt miner) who's never been busted for smuggling will get looked down upon by his peers—because it might mean he's never tried.
- Vorkosigan Saga:
- This was pretty much Miles Vorkosigan's modus operandi until Memory, when he got caught and it blew up in his face. He tried it again when courting Ekaterin in A Civil Campaign, and it blew up in his face again.
- And lampshaded in A Civil Campaign:
"If we're not stooping, what do you call that shell game with the Vortugalovs and the uterine replicator?" Ivan demanded indignantly.
"A piece of wholly unexpected good fortune. None of us here had anything to do with it," Miles replied tranquilly.
"So it's not a dirty trick if it's untraceable?"
"Correct, Ivan. You learn fast. Grandfather would have been...surprised."
- And stated outright later in the book:
"There is an unwritten rule among us, Richars; if you attempt any ploy on the far side of ethical, you'd damned well better be good enough at your game not to get caught. You're not good enough."
- In The Hunger Games, it is technically illegal to train children to participate in the Games and have them volunteer to take the place of whoever gets chosen by lottery. Regardless, the tributes from Districts 1, 2, and 4 are always what are called "Career Tributes". The Capitol seems to ignore this because it makes for a more entertaining show.
- In Raymond E Feist and Janny Wurts's Empire trilogy, part of The Riftwar Cycle, betrayal and assassination among rivals in the major Houses is almost never punished by the law unless the perpetrator was crass enough to be obvious about it. And being able to engineer a rival's demise by exploiting law and custom rather than just ignoring it will earn you the quiet admiration of your peers.
- The Drow (see Tabletop Games below) deserve a mention here as well, since R. A. Salvatore's Drizzt books did a lot to codify that picture of their society.
- A quote from Homeland sums things up quite nicely: "Only twenty-two of the original twenty-five in Drizzt's class remained. One had been dismissed—and subsequently executed—for a foiled assassination attempt on a higher-ranking student, a second had been killed in the practice arena, and a third had died in his bunk of natural causes—for a dagger in the heart quite naturally ends one's life."
- A text by Brazilian author Luis Fernando Verissimo has a honeymoon couple playing paper Battleship. Once the man fails to strike her aircraft carrier a second time, he finds out the wife split the carrier in five pieces and spread it across the board. The result is a divorce...
- Sigurd makes this suggestion to Hal in Brotherband. Hal is severely undermanned, and takes his advice to win the competition.
- Al Bundy says as much in an episode of Married... with Children where Al enters himself in an athletic competition for senior citizens. When he's standing victoriously on the podium and holding his medals, he says, "It's only cheating if you get caught."
- Porridge has this happen often. Fletcher delivers lines like:
Godber: I mean, we're all here for different reasons, aren't we?Fletcher: With respect, Godber, we are all here for the same reason....We got caught.
- The trope name is spoken almost verbatim in Andromeda by Gaheris Rhade to Hunt in a flashback when Dylan catches him cheating at Go. Rhade is visibly confused as to why Dylan is angry at him. Being a Nietzschean, he naturally assumes that everyone behaves that way, if they want to survive.
- In a Warehouse 13 episode, Artie plays a game of Battleship with an AI that has taken over the warehouse. He wins by not actually putting any ships on the board. This is used to prove a point to the AI that it is merely an incomplete version of its creator, who is a master cheater.
- Theoretically, anything a team on Scrapheap Challenge/Junkyard Wars brings back to their lot is theirs for keeps. Yeah, right...unless the other team steals it, in which case the hosts and thieves have a laugh at the victimized team's expense.
- Jeff Winger on Community runs basically the entire spectrum of amorality tropes. One of the more egregious examples is him creating fake classes to earn credits. He has to attend Greendale College because he got caught cheating in a way that his law firm could not ignore: he got his undergraduate degree from an uncredited diploma mill and when this was reported to the bar association, his license was suspended.
- The law firm pretty much runs on this trope. Harvey and Jessica get away with a lot because they are usually too smart to get caught or they are only caught when it is too late to do anything about it. On the other hand, this makes them very arrogant and gets them into serious trouble when they overshoot and get caught breaking the rules.
- When trying to win over Mike, Louis explains that Harvey is disdainful of the law and does everything he can in line with this trope. Meanwhile, Louis loves the law and does everything he can within the rules, even he sometimes has to get those rules rewritten (such as when he manages to win an eminent domain case against a restaurant, something thought to be impossible).
- "Tweeter and the Monkey Man", by the Traveling Wilburys.
"Janet told him many times, 'It was you to me who taught in Jersey everything's legal as long as you don't get caught."
- Tool's song "Jerk Off" summarizes the mentality explicitly:
"If consequences dictate our course of action then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught."
- Averted in The Addams Family; if you get a ball into the Vault while the Bookcase is closed (typically an impossible feat), the game compliments you for cheating.
Gomez: Dirty pool, old man. I LIKE it!
- In Indiana Jones: The Pinball Adventure, locking a ball without hitting the three drop targets covering the hole awards 5 million points.
Shorty: You cheat, Dr. Jones!
- Virtually half of the way the whole show works, especially with the manager or tag team partner getting in a few shots while the ref's back is turned. Mostly done by heels, but sometimes by faces against a heel who's really gone out of his way to deserve to be Hoist by His Own Petard. Though in The '90s it became increasingly common for Darker and Edgier faces to consistently use "heel" tactics like this as well. Wrestlers can even do this by themselves if they can get the referee to turn his back. I mean, sure, the ref looked away for two seconds and now one of the wrestlers is lying unconscious on the mat, with a steel chair next to him—but he didn't SEE it, so he can't just go blaming the only other guy in the ring, can he?
- In the 1997 Royal Rumble, "Stone Cold" Steve Austin, after being eliminated by Bret "the Hitman" Hart while the Easily Distracted Referee wasn't looking, jumped back into the ring quickly and cleared the ring to win the Rumble.
- A subversion sometimes happens in the form of the "Dusty Finish", named after Dusty Rhodes who used to book this sort of finish all the time. In this case, the trope is played straight until the match is finished and one wrestler (often the face) is declared the winner, only for a second referee to come out and inform the first referee that the face did something to cause a disqualfication (usually throwing the heel over the top rope, which was illegal at the time), causing that referee to reverse the decision. Because the face is usually on the losing end of the Dusty Finish, this practice is widely hated among wrestling fans. The most infamous example occurred in the AWA, when Hulk Hogan apparently won the title from Nick Bockwinkel, only for AWA president Stanley Blackburn to personally reverse the decision because Hogan threw Bockwinkel over the top rope. The fans nearly rioted as a result, Hogan left the AWA for Vince McMahon's WWF, and the rest is history.
- It can also happen taking away a title change without the win. In one NWA title match Dusty Rhodes had seemingly beat Ric Flair for the title despite interference by Arn Anderson and a ref bump to Tommy Young. A second ref came out to count Rhodes pinfall, but Young overturned it saying he had been prepared to call for Flair's DQ as soon as Anderson enter the ring, but hadn't been able to.
- This also happens retroactively, usually when a title change or other "major" event happens around the time of a contract ending or injury/suspension or the like, and is explained as "going over the rules/results more closely." One of the most infamous involved the Rockers (Shawn Michaels and Marty Janetty) defeating the Hart Foundation (Bret Hart and Jim Neidhart) for the tag-team championships. Unfortunately, during the 2-out-of-3 contest, one of the ring ropes broke which lead to an ugly mess of a match that would be virtually impossible to clean up for television; between that and the then-WWF firing Neidhart shortly thereafter, the titles were given back with the explanation of an "obscure rule" involving broken ring equipment, and was never even referenced on TV as if the Foundation never lost them.
- Bobby Heenan basically made his whole career with this strategy. Most noteable would be him holding down the Ultimate Warrior's leg during the IC match with Rick Rude at Wrestlemania 5.
- This is how The Rock managed to retain his Intercontinental title against Ken Shamrock at the 1998 Royal Rumble. The Rock had used a pair of brass knuckles on Shamrock when the refs back was turned, then stuffed the knuckles into Shamrocks trunks. When the hit wasn't enough to keep Shamrock down, Shamrock hit Rock with a belly to belly suplex and won the title.... until Rock complained to the referee that Shamrock had hit him with the brass knuckles and when the referee searched Shamrock he found the knuckles and reversed the decision.
- One laughable subversion of this was at Starcade 1999 in WCW, during a 'Master of the Powerbomb' match between Kevin Nash and Sid Vicious. In the storyline, the match could only be won by, surprisingly, Powerbombing one's opponent. After the referee had been bumped, Vicious had powerbombed Nash and various outside interference had muddied the waters, Nash attempted to powerbomb Vicious, but for whatever reason was unable to and simply left Vicious laying in the ring. When the referee finally awakened, Nash told the official 'I stuck him!' The referee, amazingly, believed him (!) and awarded the match to Nash.
- Eddie Guerrero lampshaded it ("I Lie, I Cheat, I Steal"), and later in his career took to inverting it (e.g. by hitting the mat with a steel chair, tossing it to his opponent, then playing dead and winning by DQ, which worked even though normally refs only call a DQ if they see the illegal hit).
- Water Polo is rife with this behavior.
- "If you ain't cheating, you ain't trying" is also a commonly acknowledged "rule" in NASCAR racing. No matter how hard NASCAR tries to discourage such an attitude, drivers and crew chiefs continue to look for creative ways to break the rules.
- A famous baseball player commenting, "If you're not cheating, you're not trying hard enough". It certainly seems to be a time-honored tradition in sports...
- A legendary example in the 1986 World Cup quarterfinals was the Hand of God goal. Six minutes into the second half, with the game so far scoreless, the ball had gotten loose in the penalty area and both the English goalie and Argentine player Diego Maradona were rushing at it. Diego Maradona reached the ball first and swept it into the goal with his hand before the goalie could stop him, and the ref didn't catch it. England is still bitter about this, while Maradona is worshipped in Argentina (Not Hyperbole) as a national hero.
- Professional cycling. Though, in all fairness, the biggest doping/cheating cases right now are ones from the past.
- In Rugby Union, it's said that an openside flanker who doesn't get accused of cheating is not good enough.note
- Inversion: 1983's infamous "Pine Tar Game" in Major League Baseball. George Brett of the Kansas City Royals had a home run disallowed due to a rule limiting the amount of pine tar on a bat. The Royals protested, and the American League office upheld the protest and ordered the game resumed. AL President Lee MacPhail stated that the intent of the limit was to prevent more balls from being defaced by the pine tar, which would require the umpire to toss them out of play. Since the ball was knocked out of the park anyway, Brett had not violated the spirit of the rule. Sometimes, it's not cheating even if you get caught.
- The Baltimore Orioles of the 1890's. They pretty much stretched the rules of baseball of time like taffy. A short list of the things they did: having the ground keeping crew alter the field in various ways to enable Baltimore's batters to play "small ball," hiding a ball within the outfield grass, grabbing onto the base runner's belt, putting dirt and pebbles in shoes, throwing equipment at base runners, tripping base runners, shoving base runners, and hip checks on base runners. As others have mentioned many times, this was not considered cheating, but playing smart baseball. Their manager at the time called it "playing baseball as she was meant to be played" though John Mc Graw, their pugnacious 3rd baseman more truthfully called it "artful kicking." They inspired other baseball teams, even to this day.
- This trope is bread and water for a certain kind of Munchkin. In the game of that name it's actually an explicit rule.
- One of the scenario ideas in the GURPS setting book GURPS IOU, set in a very peculiar university, involves the final exam for the Advanced Cheating class. The questions are just random obscure trivia; the actual test is finding a good way to cheat in it. If you get caught, you fail. If you don't even try to cheat, you'll be expelled for "terminal cluelessness." The difficulty to this being, of course, proving that someone did not cheat.
- Drow from Dungeons & Dragons. Their entire legal system is based around this trope. As an example, in the city of Menzoberranzan if a Drow Noble House wants to eliminate another Noble House they must do it in a way that leaves no member of the eliminated house alive, since only the attacked house has the right of accusation against the attacking house, and are the only ones allowed to witness. Anyone else who happens to see the attack are merely "spectators." If even one member of the attacked house is alive to accuse the attackers, the attacking family will, according to the law, be eradicated. If no one is left alive to witness, everyone will act as if the now deceased house never existed in the first place, except for vaguely praising the attackers for a successful raid.
- Forgotten Realms: After Drizz't Do'Urden abandoned his House and that House subsequently lost the favor of Lolth, it was annihilated by House Baenre, the First House of Menzoberranzan. However, not only Drizz't, but his brother Dinin and sister Vierna survived the massacre, being taken in by the Bregan Daerthe mercenaries. When Dinin asks Jarlaxle if he'd rescued them because of their claim against the Baenre, Jarlaxle basically tells him, "Pssh. Yeah, like that'll ever happen".
- Paranoia officially prohibits players from even knowing the rules. It then acknowledges that the players will read them anyway. To provide a "don't get caught" aspect, summary execution of a character is recommended if the player tries to Metagame (although with five backup clones, this is more a warning than a bolt of purple lightning). On the other hand, if the rulebook also includes a pre-written mission, then the prohibition on players reading the mission is clearly labeled "no, really, this time we really mean it!"
- The Barathi society of Swashbucklers Of The 7 Skies has a strong vein of this, matched with extreme legalism (they invented lawyers) and the cultural practice of Vendetta. If you get away with it, it's considered a brilliant piece of politicking to be praised and emulated whenever possible... but if you are caught, then there's a fair chance you and everyone you love will "regrettably drown" well away from water.
- Sometimes, The Computer Is a Cheating Bastard, and other times, the players are instead.
- Academagia has a lot of Byzantine rules that amount to "you're not allowed to go anywhere or do anything except attend class and stay in your room the rest of the time when not at an Academy-approved activity." You're expected to sneak out and take a walk in the gardens to learn more about the world now and then, but if you get caught, you'll get detention.
- Space Quest V: At the very beginning of the game, you have to get a perfect score on a multiple choice exam of unusual questions. Luckily, you can look at another test-taker's answers as long as you don't let the resident anti-cheating robot see you.
- In Breath of Fire III, there's a minigame where you have to train a scrawny man's skills so he can beat a musclehead in a duel. You get disqualified only if anyone sees you interfere with the fight itself. Trick is that Zig only looks away after a Critical Hit, so you can't just rush in after one session of training. That said, you can also train up the scrawny man so well that he's capable of legitimately Curb Stomping Zig on his own.
- In America's Army 3, during Combat Lifesaving training, you are specifically told several times that no cheating or talking is allowed. This doesn't stop you at all from asking the student beside you for answers to the test and getting a perfect score.
- The Elder Scrolls:
- In Morrowind, you can join several guilds, and one of the rules is usually that you're not allowed to steal from or kill other guild members. However, you can do both of these things safely and if you do it without getting caught, you won't be kicked out of the guild. House Telvanni has an interesting twist on theft among members: their philosophy is that, if you steal something from another member of the Telvanni and live to tell about it, you clearly deserve whatever it is you stole.
- In The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim, worship of Talos is illegal in the Empire... but it's illegal through a treaty with a bunch of Nazi elves that everyone hates, so it's never really enforced until the civil war. Whiterun, ostensibly an Imperial city, has a preacher crying Talos' praises openly in the streets while the civil war rages.
- This trope comes up in Golden Sun, in a way. When participating on the Colosseum, it's possible for your party characters to help Isaac by using their Psynergy, which would certainly count as cheating, but no one outside of your party can even see the magic spells. Which gets a little weird when some of the spells have effects such as making a pillar of ice appear from a puddle. Maybe the crowd is so focused on the contestants that they ignore anything else?
- Aran Ryan in Punch Out Wii. He's headbutted Mac, bounced off of the ring's ropes like a slingshot, used his elbows, used a pair of gloves like a flail, and hid horseshoes inside his gloves. All he needs to do is kick Mac in the groin and he'll have broken every rule in the book. And for some reason the referee still doesn't disqualify him for this.
- Ultra Fast Pony:
Applejack: Applebloom, I am disgusted! Winners never get caught taking drugs.
- In the episode "Purple Party Pooper," Rarity declares, "What I do would be completely legal if no one knew about it."
- In "Winning":
Twilight: Something seems a little off in the morals, there.
- In Drowtales, one of the rules of the School of Magic is "If you attack another student, you must kill and dispose of the body."
- Gunnerkrigg Court:
Eglamore: We have rules for a reason. For your safety. And if you're going to break them, you should try harder to not get caught.
- Eglamore's advice to Antimony was not exactly what one'd expect from the teacher grounding a student. Annie initially criticizes this advice, but she has no trouble following it later. Of course, his company in their time used to do the same...
- Generally the Court uses visible and mediocre security measures which kids can and regularly do hack, jam or bypass on their inevitable forays into the Court. While quietly employing a very advanced, undetectable and unexpected in its work tracking system (of course, this ran smoothly only until one young Mad Scientist discovered it while hacking around their network) and/or beings that look innocuous, but are more than capable of stopping most troubles into which students could possibly get.
- A number of strongly forbidden behaviors in Girl Genius are tacitly acknowledged to the point that the real crime seems to be doing them sloppily, such as students spying on Castle Wulfenbach, Jägers sneaking into Mechanicsburg (where they're forbidden until the Heterodyne gets the castle under control), and nobles being resurrected (which formally results in loss of all titles and permanent ineligibility).
- In Sluggy Freelance Torg is forced into a parody of the Tri-Wizard Tournament from Harry Potter, despite having no magical ability whatsoever. So, when faced with the task of defeating a giant, sword-wielding chicken, he interprets the rule saying "be resourceful and use the tools around you" to mean he can lift a magic-user out of the stands, point her at the chicken, and let her kill it. And if that fails, he's still got Plan B, yelling, "Eat her! I'm old and stringy!"
- Several of the characters in Schlock Mercenary view all rules as these, including Captain Tagon. Petey, while generally benevolent, loves underhanded methods himself. He once managed to get Toughs off the hook without confronting human governments by eagerly agreeing that the Toughs are less than law-abiding, but making the U.N.S. drop all charges because they don't want him to publish as part of the extradition process the very facts they tried to cover up.
- MegaTokyo: Trying to convince himself.
- In Freefall, Sam thinks life in general works like this, since you get punished for getting caught.
- Billy pulls this in the second magic lesson of morphE. In order to get a phone call to his loved ones all seedlings need to successfully defeat a training dummy using magic and, as a group, banish a spirit. When Asia is struggling to cast on her dummy, Billy knocks it down while Amical is discussing Asia's difficulties with his henchmen. Asia is outraged that Billy would do this and Billy's response is that as long as Amical thinks they won the bet, they won the bet. The specifics don't change the outcome.
- South Park:
- Eric Cartman once posed as a teacher for a bunch of hooligan teens. Instead of teaching them all that normal stuff, he taught them to cheat at tests. While dressed as Edward James Olmos in Stand and Deliver. "How do I reach these keeeds!?" And to top it off, he continually referenced Bill Belichek and the 2007 Patriots, claiming that the moral of that situation was not "Don't cheat" - but rather "If you got to where you were by cheating, keep cheating!"
- In "Sexual Healing", Butters and Kyle attend a class to "cure" themselves of their sex addictions (as the WHO named it a disease after many reports of celebrities' infidelities hit the news), but the class doesn't aim to cure their addictions, but rather teaches them ways to prevent themselves from getting caught.
- In a similar joke in an earlier episode, Father Maxi, the town's priest, travels to Rome to attend a conference on what to do about the problem of child molesters in the clergy. The other clergymen center the talks around finding ways to keep the molested children from coming forward. When Maxi suggests that a better solution would be to not molest children, he is laughed at.
- Megatron once tried doing this against Optimus Prime in an episode of Transformers Generation 1; he challenges Optimus to a duel of honor, with the loser exiling themselves, only to use a machine to transfer his underlings' powers into him and sending the Constructicons out to destroy the Autobots' computer, so it wouldn't be able to warn them of the duplicity. It doesn't work, in the end, but Optimus did completely miss the obvious signs of cheating on Megs' part during the battle.
- In one episode of Rocket Power, Lars points out a shortcut to Pi in a street luge race where nobody will see him while he's off the course, stating that "it's only cheating if you get caught." Otto overhears and takes said shortcut, doesn't get caught, and wins the race.
- In King of the Hill, Buck Strickland hits his golf ball into a rough patch, and "trips" over it, knocking it back onto the green. When Bobby, his caddie, asks if it's cheating, he replies, "Ain't no law 'gainst bein' clumsy. 'Less you get caught." Later, after he makes another bad, far-off shot, he orders Bobby to go find the ball, slipping him a golf ball and whispering, "Find it someplace good."
- Dan Vs.: In the episode "Dan Vs. The Mummy," Dan proposes stealing Egyptian relics from a history museum.
Chris: Aaand, isn't that a felony?
Dan: California Penal Code eight thirty-three dot four, subparagraph B: It's only a felony if someone sees you do it.
Chris: You're making that up.
- Sparta liked this trope:
- As a rite of passage The Spartan Way, each Spartan boy would be denied enough food to survive, forcing them to steal from the Helots. Stealing was still illegal, however, so if the boy was careless enough to get caught, he would be punished mercilessly. One story goes that a boy who stole a fox cub and hid it under his tunic got caught and denied doing anything, even as the fox woke up and started chewing his way out. Not through the tunic.
- For soldiers, the same applied to having sex with your wife - the men lived together in barracks and were "forbidden" to go home. The idea was that if you had to break the rules to sleep with your wife, you'd take it a lot more seriously. Sparta always needed more sons.
- Two of the unwritten rules for special forces (read: commando) groups are "if you ain't cheating, you ain't trying", and "if you're caught cheating, maybe you're not special forces material." For example, there will usually be some point where a commando will be ordered to report to a distant base, but not given any transportation (or, for that matter, a pass to leave the base they're currently at). It's up to the special forces guy to find a way to get there — following their orders, but against military regulations.
- In the year 1000 the nation of Iceland officially converted to Christianity. While the transition was smooth and surprisingly bloodless, worshiping the old gods was still allowed as long as it was done in secret.
- Many religions established footholds and spread like wildfire only after authorities tried to snuff them out. A number of religious philosophers have actually longed for 'fire' to re-forge their groups' beliefs during periods of prosperity as peace tends to foster complacency and legalism.
- The Washington Naval Conference laid down strict limitations on the construction of warships, with the idea of preventing an out-and-out, ruinously expensive battleship arms race (similar to the one Britain and Germany engaged in prior to World War I; the war had barely ended and Britain, the US and Japan were already in the opening stages of a new three-way arms race, with massive battleship programs planned out that none of them could actually affordnote ). Of course, the nations that didn't wiggle through the loopholes (it's 10,000 tons and it carries 15 fast-firing main guns, but it's still classified as an innocent-sounding and unrestricted "light cruiser" just because the guns are six-inchers) decided "screw tonnage limitations!" and started laying down ships that exceeded the tonnage limitations by 25 to 40%. Special mention goes to the Japanese, who categorically denied Western rumors that they were building forty- to fifty-thousand ton battleships (when the limit was 35,000 tons). The battleships in question turned out to be the ''Yamato'' class, which weighed in at 65,000 tons. Nobody outside Japan knew their exact weight until after World War II.
- Japan was also building 8-inch gun turrets that didn't have ships to go with them, ostensibly as spare parts for their heavy cruisers. In actuality, those 15-gun light cruisers were always intended to have their 6-inchers replaced by 8-inchers as soon as Japan could get away with it, as the turret mounts were of the same size. And those cruisers were also already weighing in at 12,500 tons rather than the official 10,000.
- Similarly, the Italians relied heavily on outright cheating to bypass the treaty, but turned out to just not be as good at it as the Japanese. Prior to World War II, other nations' naval officials were astonished at how Italy managed to built cruisers that were a good 50% faster than comparable ships of other nations. It turned out, the way Italy managed that was to send the ships on their shakedown cruises without carrying such minor items as gun turrets, thus making them come in (barely) below the 10,000 ton limit. In actual combat conditions, the added weight from actually carrying weapons meant that Italy's ships, far from the speed demons they seemed to be pre-war, were actually slower than their British and American counterparts.
- While not subject to the Washington Naval Treaty, Germany initially was under similar restrictions via the Treaty of Versailles. At the end of World War I Germany was stripped of nearly their entire navy, and allowed to keep only 6 light cruisers and 6 archaic pre-Dreadnought battleships. The battleships could be replaced once they were at least 20 years old, but the replacements were restricted to 10,000 tons displacement. The intention was that Germany would be limited to coastal defense battleship like those of the Scandinavian navies, and definitely not commerce-raiders. Instead, Germany designed the so-called "pocket battleships", designed specifically for commerce raiding, which were basically heavy cruisers except with 11-inch guns (akin to a small battleship, but with only six guns). Oh, and their actual weight was almost 15,000 tons.
- Amusingly, all the cheating was for naught; aircraft carriers proved to be vastly more important than battleships, which played only a relatively minor role in the war. The only real battleship vs battleship engagement in the whole of World War II was pretty much pointless. And the nations which focused on aircraft carriers instead of battleships had an advantage.
- Rules and laws in general are meaningless unless enforced. Breaking a rule, leaving no evidence that a rule was broken, and not getting caught in the act is as good as obeying that rule (unless, of course, the rule/law was put in place because of the long term concequences of breaking it. Or for your own safety.).
- Examples are Third World countries where laws are often similar to those in developed nations, but since law enforcement tends to be weak/corrupt only a minority of offenders is arrested, sometimes selectively.
- (Unofficial)Core value number 8 of the Singapore Armed Forces: do whatever you want, but don't get caught.
- Don't Ask Don't Tell basically applied this principle to the law against gays enlisting in the military. It was still illegal, but it was also against regulations to try to find out about it. Annoyingly enough, it's the "trying to find out about it" side of things that often involved more cheating.