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17th Apr '18 7:16:41 PM nombretomado
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* Jeff Winger on ''Series/{{Community}}'' runs basically the entire spectrum of amorality tropes. One of the more {{egregious}} examples is him creating fake classes to earn credits. He has to attend Greendale College because he got caught cheating in a way that his law firm could not ignore: he got his undergraduate degree from an uncredited diploma mill and when this was reported to the bar association, his license was suspended.

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* Jeff Winger on ''Series/{{Community}}'' runs basically the entire spectrum of amorality tropes. One of the more {{egregious}} JustForFun/{{egregious}} examples is him creating fake classes to earn credits. He has to attend Greendale College because he got caught cheating in a way that his law firm could not ignore: he got his undergraduate degree from an uncredited diploma mill and when this was reported to the bar association, his license was suspended.
3rd Mar '18 10:06:41 PM nombretomado
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24th Feb '18 1:32:43 PM nombretomado
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* This is how Wrestling/TheRock managed to retain his Intercontinental title against Wrestling/KenShamrock at the 1998 RoyalRumble. The Rock had used a pair of brass knuckles on Shamrock when the refs back was turned, then stuffed the knuckles into ''Shamrocks'' trunks. When the hit wasn't enough to keep Shamrock down, Shamrock hit Rock with a belly to belly suplex and won the title.... until Rock complained to the referee that Shamrock had hit ''him'' with the brass knuckles and when the referee searched Shamrock he found the knuckles and reversed the decision.

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* This is how Wrestling/TheRock managed to retain his Intercontinental title against Wrestling/KenShamrock at the 1998 RoyalRumble.Wrestling/RoyalRumble. The Rock had used a pair of brass knuckles on Shamrock when the refs back was turned, then stuffed the knuckles into ''Shamrocks'' trunks. When the hit wasn't enough to keep Shamrock down, Shamrock hit Rock with a belly to belly suplex and won the title.... until Rock complained to the referee that Shamrock had hit ''him'' with the brass knuckles and when the referee searched Shamrock he found the knuckles and reversed the decision.
19th Feb '18 7:24:57 AM StFan
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-->-- '''HK-47,''' ''KnightsOfTheOldRepublic''

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-->-- '''HK-47,''' ''KnightsOfTheOldRepublic''
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* In a very early ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'' episode, during the Chunin exams the ninjas-in-training are given a written test with the unusual rule that they cannot be caught cheating more than four times. So, needless to say, all of the skilled students discreetly use their ninja skills to do so without getting caught. Which was, of course, [[HiddenPurposeTest the entire point]], as the test was absurdly difficult (Sakura was the only one who actually knew any answers) and two planted students were given the answers ahead of time. Naruto himself, however, unwittingly engaged in LoopholeAbuse due to the aforementioned nature of the exam. [[spoiler: Since he never ''attempted'' to cheat, he was never caught, and thus passed the exam on those grounds--even though he never even ''tried'' to answer one question.]]

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* In a very early ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'' episode, during the Chunin exams the ninjas-in-training are given a written test with the unusual rule that they cannot be caught cheating more than four times. So, needless to say, all of the skilled students discreetly use their ninja skills to do so without getting caught. Which was, is, of course, [[HiddenPurposeTest the entire point]], as the test was is absurdly difficult (Sakura was is the only one who actually knew any answers) and two planted fake students were given the answers ahead of time. Naruto himself, however, unwittingly engaged in LoopholeAbuse due to the aforementioned nature of the exam. [[spoiler: Since [[spoiler:Since he never ''attempted'' to cheat, he was never caught, and thus passed the exam on those grounds--even grounds -- even though he never even ''tried'' to answer one question.]]



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-->'''Razoul:''' Gotcha!
-->'''Aladdin:''' I'm in trouble.

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-->'''Razoul:''' Gotcha!
-->'''Aladdin:'''
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'''Aladdin:'''
I'm in trouble.



* In ''Film/StarTrek'' (2009 film), the alternate Kirk was court-martialed. But the plot interferes before Alternate-Kirk has a proper chance to defend himself, so it is never seen if he would have been able to talk his way out of the situation or gotten expelled. Presumably something similar happened to Kirk-Prime, but if he was being a bit less of an ass about the whole thing (and if he had some powerful friends), he might have gotten away with it.
** The difference may have been due to the manner in which they cheated. Alternate-Kirk simply disabled the shields of the enemy vessels and destroyed them, while Kirk-Prime (according to the ExpandedUniverse) reprogrammed the enemy's behavior to respect the reputation he intended to build as captain such that they would allow him to proceed unmolested. So while Alternate-Kirk cheated in a way that he could plausibly have hidden and gotten away with entirely if not for the fact that the game was {{unwinnable}}, Kirk-Prime took RefugeInAudacity.

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* In ''Film/StarTrek'' (2009 film), the alternate Kirk was court-martialed. But the plot interferes before Alternate-Kirk has a proper chance to defend himself, so it is never seen if he would have been able to talk his way out of the situation or gotten expelled. Presumably something similar happened to Kirk-Prime, but if he was being a bit less of an ass about the whole thing (and if he had some powerful friends), he might have gotten away with it.
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it. The difference may have been due to the manner in which they cheated. Alternate-Kirk simply disabled the shields of the enemy vessels and destroyed them, while Kirk-Prime (according to the ExpandedUniverse) reprogrammed the enemy's behavior to respect the reputation he intended to build as captain such that they would allow him to proceed unmolested. So while Alternate-Kirk cheated in a way that he could plausibly have hidden and gotten away with entirely if not for the fact that the game was {{unwinnable}}, Kirk-Prime took RefugeInAudacity.



* In the ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'' Assassins' Guild, student assassins are given a list of places which are out-of-bounds. This is defined ''not'' as places they can't go, but as places they can't be seen by a master, which gives them lots of practice at the stealth skills Guild members are required to have.
** Even better, the Assassin's Guild Diary states that any boy ''not'' caught being out of bounds at least once per year gets detention unless they can prove that they were there but were not caught.
** It's considered a pass on your final exam if you assassinate your examiner--though, considering he's an experienced assassin himself, you're advised to be ''very sure'' that you will succeed before trying.

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* In the ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'' Assassins' Guild, student assassins are given a list of places which are out-of-bounds. This is defined ''not'' as places they can't go, but as places they can't be seen by a master, which gives them lots of practice at the stealth skills Guild members are required to have.
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have. Even better, the Assassin's Guild Diary states that any boy ''not'' caught being out of bounds at least once per year gets detention unless they can prove that they were there but were not caught.
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caught. It's considered a pass on your final exam if you assassinate your examiner--though, examiner -- though, considering he's an experienced assassin himself, you're advised to be ''very sure'' that you will succeed before trying.



--> '''Moody:''' Cheating's a traditional part of the Triwizard Tournament and always has been....I've been telling Dumbledore from the start, he can be as high-minded as he likes, but you can bet old Karkaroff and Maxime won't be. They want to win. They want to beat Dumbledore. They'd like to prove he's only human.

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--> '''Moody:''' -->'''Moody:''' Cheating's a traditional part of the Triwizard Tournament and always has been....I've been telling Dumbledore from the start, he can be as high-minded as he likes, but you can bet old Karkaroff and Maxime won't be. They want to win. They want to beat Dumbledore. They'd like to prove he's only human.



* The Drow (see Tabletop Games below) deserve a mention here as well, since R. A. Salvatore's [[Literature/TheDarkElfTrilogy Drizzt]] books did a lot to codify that picture of their society.
** A quote from ''Homeland'' sums things up quite nicely: "Only twenty-two of the original twenty-five in Drizzt's class remained. One had been dismissed--and subsequently executed--for a foiled assassination attempt on a higher-ranking student, a second had been killed in the practice arena, and a third had died in his bunk of natural causes--for a dagger in the heart quite naturally ends one's life."

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* The Drow (see Tabletop Games below) deserve a mention here as well, since R. A. Salvatore's [[Literature/TheDarkElfTrilogy Drizzt]] books did a lot to codify that picture of their society.
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society. A quote from ''Homeland'' sums things up quite nicely: "Only twenty-two of the original twenty-five in Drizzt's class remained. One had been dismissed--and dismissed -- and subsequently executed--for executed -- for a foiled assassination attempt on a higher-ranking student, a second had been killed in the practice arena, and a third had died in his bunk of natural causes--for causes -- for a dagger in the heart quite naturally ends one's life."



-->'''Godber:''' I mean, we're all here for different reasons, aren't we?
-->'''Fletcher:''' [[WithDueRespect With respect]], Godber, we are all here for the ''same'' reason....We got caught.

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-->'''Godber:''' I mean, we're all here for different reasons, aren't we?
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we?\\
'''Fletcher:'''
[[WithDueRespect With respect]], Godber, we are all here for the ''same'' reason....We reason... we got caught.



* In a ''Series/{{Warehouse 13}}'' episode, Artie plays a game of ''TabletopGame/{{Battleship}}'' with an [[AIIsACrapshoot AI]] that has taken over the warehouse. He wins by not actually putting any ships on the board. This is used to prove a point to the AI that it is merely an incomplete version of its creator, who is a master cheater.

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* In a ''Series/{{Warehouse 13}}'' ''Series/Warehouse13'' episode, Artie plays a game of ''TabletopGame/{{Battleship}}'' with an [[AIIsACrapshoot AI]] that has taken over the warehouse. He wins by not actually putting any ships on the board. This is used to prove a point to the AI that it is merely an incomplete version of its creator, who is a master cheater.



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** After his death, other WWE wrestlers have made use of similar tactics in order to steal a win or pull the odds back into their favour. In July of 2016, for instance, Sasha Banks [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHJTnToYLJQ did this]] with the ''Women's Title belt'' in order to put an end to Dana Brooke's interference during her match against Charlotte.

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** * After his death, other WWE wrestlers have made use of similar tactics in order to steal a win or pull the odds back into their favour.favor. In July of 2016, for instance, Sasha Banks [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHJTnToYLJQ did this]] with the ''Women's Title belt'' in order to put an end to Dana Brooke's interference during her match against Charlotte.



* ''TabletopGame/ForgottenRealms'': After Drizz't Do'Urden abandoned his House and that House subsequently lost the favor of Lolth, it was annihilated by House Baenre, the First House of Menzoberranzan. However, not only Drizz't, but his brother Dinin and sister Vierna survived the massacre, being taken in by the Bregan Daerthe mercenaries. When Dinin asks Jarlaxle if he'd rescued them because of their claim against the Baenre, Jarlaxle basically tells him, "Pssh. [[SarcasmMode Yeah, like that'll ever happen]]".

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* ''TabletopGame/ForgottenRealms'': After Drizz't Do'Urden abandoned his House and that House subsequently lost the favor of Lolth, it was annihilated by House Baenre, the First House of Menzoberranzan. However, not only Drizz't, but his brother Dinin and sister Vierna survived the massacre, being taken in by the Bregan Daerthe mercenaries. When Dinin asks Jarlaxle if he'd rescued them because of their claim against the Baenre, Jarlaxle basically tells him, "Pssh. [[SarcasmMode Yeah, like that'll ever happen]]".happen]]."



* The Barathi society of ''SwashbucklersOfThe7Skies'' has a strong vein of this, matched with extreme legalism (they invented lawyers) and the cultural practice of Vendetta. If you get away with it, it's considered a brilliant piece of politicking to be praised and emulated whenever possible... but if you are caught, then there's a fair chance you and everyone you love will "regrettably drown" well away from water.

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* The Barathi society of ''SwashbucklersOfThe7Skies'' ''TabletopGame/SwashbucklersOfThe7Skies'' has a strong vein of this, matched with extreme legalism (they invented lawyers) and the cultural practice of Vendetta. If you get away with it, it's considered a brilliant piece of politicking to be praised and emulated whenever possible... but if you are caught, then there's a fair chance you and everyone you love will "regrettably drown" well away from water.



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-->'''Eglamore''': We have rules for a reason. For your safety. And if you're going to break them, you should try harder to not get caught.

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-->'''Eglamore''': --->'''Eglamore:''' We have rules for a reason. For your safety. And if you're going to break them, you should try harder to not get caught.



* In ''Webcomic/SluggyFreelance'' Torg is forced into a parody of the Tri-Wizard Tournament from ''Franchise/HarryPotter'', despite having no magical ability whatsoever. So, when faced with the task of defeating a [[http://sluggy.com/comics/archives/daily/20080407 giant, sword-wielding chicken]], he interprets the rule saying "be resourceful and use the tools around you" to mean he can lift a magic-user out of the stands, point her at the chicken, and let ''her'' kill it. And if that fails, he's still got Plan B, yelling, "''[[http://sluggy.com/comics/archives/daily/20080410 Eat her! I'm old and stringy!]]''"

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* In ''Webcomic/SluggyFreelance'' ''Webcomic/SluggyFreelance'', Torg is forced into a parody of the Tri-Wizard Tournament from ''Franchise/HarryPotter'', despite having no magical ability whatsoever. So, when faced with the task of defeating a [[http://sluggy.com/comics/archives/daily/20080407 giant, sword-wielding chicken]], he interprets the rule saying "be resourceful and use the tools around you" to mean he can lift a magic-user out of the stands, point her at the chicken, and let ''her'' kill it. And if that fails, he's still got Plan B, yelling, "''[[http://sluggy.com/comics/archives/daily/20080410 Eat her! I'm old and stringy!]]''"



* Webcomic/MegaTokyo: [[http://megatokyo.com/strip/1132 Trying to convince himself.]]

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* Webcomic/MegaTokyo: ''Webcomic/MegaTokyo'': [[http://megatokyo.com/strip/1132 Trying to convince himself.]]



* Billy pulls this in the second magic lesson of ''[[{{Webcomic/Morphe}} morphE]]''. In order to get a phone call to his loved ones all seedlings need to successfully defeat a training dummy using magic and, as a group, banish a spirit. When Asia is struggling to cast on her dummy, Billy knocks it down while Amical is discussing Asia's difficulties with his henchmen. Asia is outraged that Billy would do this and Billy's response is that as long as Amical thinks they won the bet, they won the bet. The specifics don't change the outcome.

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* Billy pulls this in the second magic lesson of ''[[{{Webcomic/Morphe}} morphE]]''.''Webcomic/{{morphE}}''. In order to get a phone call to his loved ones all seedlings need to successfully defeat a training dummy using magic and, as a group, banish a spirit. When Asia is struggling to cast on her dummy, Billy knocks it down while Amical is discussing Asia's difficulties with his henchmen. Asia is outraged that Billy would do this and Billy's response is that as long as Amical thinks they won the bet, they won the bet. The specifics don't change the outcome.



* In ''WesternAnimation/KingOfTheHill,'' Buck Strickland hits his golf ball into a rough patch, and "trips" over it, knocking it back onto the green. When Bobby, his caddie, asks if it's cheating, he replies, "Ain't no law 'gainst bein' clumsy. 'Less you get caught." Later, after he makes another bad, far-off shot, he orders Bobby to go find the ball, slipping him a golf ball and whispering, "Find it someplace good."

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* In ''WesternAnimation/KingOfTheHill,'' ''WesternAnimation/KingOfTheHill'', Buck Strickland hits his golf ball into a rough patch, and "trips" over it, knocking it back onto the green. When Bobby, his caddie, asks if it's cheating, he replies, "Ain't no law 'gainst bein' clumsy. 'Less you get caught." Later, after he makes another bad, far-off shot, he orders Bobby to go find the ball, slipping him a golf ball and whispering, "Find it someplace good."



26th Jan '18 4:49:39 PM eroock
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-->--'''HK-47,''' ''KnightsOfTheOldRepublic''

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3rd Dec '17 11:01:29 AM FoxBluereaver
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* Dario in ''Fanfic/PokemonResetBloodlines'' firmly believes in this. [[CheatersNeverProsper Not that it helps him, though.]]
18th Nov '17 9:50:37 PM Nadim
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-->'''Razul:''' Gotcha!

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8th Nov '17 6:01:59 PM DrVonOppendown
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** Amusingly, all the cheating was for naught; aircraft carriers proved to be vastly more important than battleships, which played only a relatively minor role in the war. The only real battleship vs battleship engagement in the whole of World War II was pretty much pointless. And the nations which focused on aircraft carriers instead of battleships had an advantage.

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** Amusingly, all the cheating was for naught; aircraft carriers proved to be vastly more important than battleships, which played only a relatively minor role in the war. The only real battleship vs battleship engagement in the whole of World War II was pretty much pointless. And the nations which focused on aircraft carriers instead of battleships had an advantage. Incidentally, this was exactly how the Americans, the authors of the treaty, got around it.
31st Oct '17 9:43:33 PM ChaoticNovelist
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* One of the Ten Pledges of ''LightNovel/NoGameNoLife'' is that anyone caught cheating automatically loses. None of them actually forbid cheating. [[BrotherSisterTeam Sora and Shiro]] take advantage of this many times.



* [[TabletopGame/{{Chess}} Heidenfeld - Kerins, Dublin 1973]]. White castled twice, even though this is flagrantly against the rules, which state that a player can only castle if neither the king nor the rook have moved before. [[WhatAnIdiot Amazingly, Black let this stand]], and the move was [[RefugeInAudacity so ballsy]] that Tim Krabbé has [[http://timkr.home.xs4all.nl/records/ actually listed the match as a record]] (scroll down to "greatest number of castlings") even though that move would never fly if both sides were paying attention.

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* [[TabletopGame/{{Chess}} ''TabletopGame/{{Chess}}'': Heidenfeld - Kerins, Dublin 1973]]. White castled twice, even though this is flagrantly against the rules, which state that a player can only castle if neither the king nor the rook have moved before. [[WhatAnIdiot Amazingly, Black let this stand]], and the move was [[RefugeInAudacity so ballsy]] that Tim Krabbé has [[http://timkr.home.xs4all.nl/records/ actually listed the match as a record]] (scroll down to "greatest number of castlings") even though that move would never fly if both sides were paying attention.
18th Oct '17 12:39:38 PM Origin
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** After his death, other WWE wrestlers have made use of similar tactics in order to steal a win or pull the odds back into their favour. In July of 2016, for instance, Sasha Banks [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHJTnToYLJQ did this with the ''Women's Title belt'']] in order to put an end to Dana Brooke's interference during her match against Charlotte.

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** After his death, other WWE wrestlers have made use of similar tactics in order to steal a win or pull the odds back into their favour. In July of 2016, for instance, Sasha Banks [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHJTnToYLJQ did this this]] with the ''Women's Title belt'']] belt'' in order to put an end to Dana Brooke's interference during her match against Charlotte.
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