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openWhat's the policy for Characters pages for fanworks?
I've been seeing some inconsistent deals with Characters pages for fanworks, with it either being that they only cover original characters and link to the Characters page for the source material for the canon characters, or the fanwork's Characters page covers both canon and original characters. I'm assuming that it has something to do with nuances of the fanworks that I'm not entirely getting, but what's the go-to policy for this sort of thing?
If you're wondering why I'm asking, it's because I've been working on a page for one fanseries I really liked that focuses on the backstories of a few of the characters (using both canon and fanon because the source material is intentionally vague about most of the characters, so the characters are the same as their canon selves but have some extra elements), and I've noticed that a lot of the tropes I added to the main page belong on a Characters page. I don't know if it's worth creating a Characters page for the series, so I came here.
openFind recently added tropes
About the Related Pages function. Is there anything like that except it sorts by most recently added examples? This would be helpful for cleanups.
Edited by Ferot_DreadnaughtopenVideoGames/Sierra72019... Wrong namespace. Cut or move?
VideoGames.Sierra 72019... Wrong namespace. Cut or move?
Edited by MaladyopenWeird picture next to TropeFinder
https://share.icloud.com/photos/0aCDNucrQMsyJ-Nfo0i3HwhoA
What’s with this picture that shows up next to Trope Finder? It’s giving me uncanny-valley vibes.
openIs a Moments page allowed to only have an image?
The MahouShoujoOre Funny page has no examples, only an image. It can be safely cutlisted, right?
openThere Are No Therapists
Does the trope There Are No Therapists need the work to actually discuss about someone's need of therapy? Or is it fine if someone points, in Fridge Horror style, that some character clearly needs theraphy but the work never acknowledges it?
openConversation in the Page Literature
Jane Eyre has a massive entries-long discussion under Values Dissonance complete with use of the first person. However a lot of the points they bring up about the historical context for it are valid and interesting to note despite clearly violating page etiquette. It's clear that it needs to be completely rewritten. How should we go about doing so?
open“Nuked from Orbit”
I submitted a new trope and saw that “enough” tropers had voted to not publish it - even though I saw no votes displayed on it all. What’s happening there? Edit: I believe I misread the situation; what I saw simply means that currently my trope does not have the necessary Hats to be published: it’s a default message that is pretty indirect according to what I’m used to. I’ll keep this up in case I am wrong with that postulation/assumption... in which case someone please correct me.
Edited by KaoruFutamiopenTwo fanfics Need Magic Wiki Love Western Animation
My crossovers Code Saw and Code Wings 3.0 need some help getting tropes. I've been trying to get them myself (and would edit the page Needs Wiki Magic Love myself if it weren't locked), but I can't do it on my own. Do you all think you can help me?
Please and thank you. It would help a lot.
(I would put it under Fan Works, but you don't have a category for that, unfortunately.)
Edited by Teenlyokofan7777openHow to trope animals with humanoid bodies?
So, the Petting-Zoo People page apparently got deleted because people thought it was a duplicate of Beast Man. This is something I'd like to dispute someday, since Beast Man declares that the animals in question are a separate fantastic race from animals, while Petting-Zoo People are simply animals with human proportions, which I feel is distinct from Funny Animal.
If a animal has simply a humanoid body, like Star Fox, would it be Funny Animal or Beast Man? I am confused.
openNot so Ridiculously Human Robots
Ridiculously Human Robots is about robots who have human traits, even when they would have no real purpose to be designed to begin with (such as emotions). But what about a robot meant to impersonate someone? The human traits are then justified, as the robot has to react exactly as the impersonated person would. Is it still an example, then?
openPage with no existing work Literature
While clicking the Random Media button, I came across the page for Linda. The page has four examples on it, and the description of the work claims that it's a short story hosted on a Google Document. Clicking on the provided link shows that the Document was deleted at some point, and I can't find any other copy of it online. There's no linked account for the author, the history for the page doesn't show who made it in the first place, and only five tropers (including myself at one point last year, to my surprise) have edited the page over the past 8 years.
I would like to ask what's the best course of action for a page like this. Do you cut the whole page, or do you toss it into the Unpublished Works section?
Courtesy link: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=Literature.Linda
openRequesting Image Edits
Is there a forum thread where I can go to request an image edit? I launched the SpongeBob SquarePants: Video Game Characters page recently, and unfortunately, the best image I could find of Robo-Patrick contains a distracting number that I'm unable to edit out myself because I don't have the photoshop skills to do it.
openSpoilers Off pages spoiling other works
What if there are spoilers for another work on a Spoilers Off page? Example:
- Shout-Out: Bob makes a reference to Alice's death in That Other Series when <context>.
openSafe Word real life examples
Safe Word is listed on No Real Life Examples, Please!, but allows non sexual real life examples.... and i found out there were more of those than I expected. Isn't this kind of weird? It allows real life examples (sorta) but is listed as NRLEP.
open Readding of JW content Web Original
bobg has been readding heartwarming examples related to Justin Charmichael/ JewWario to pages, including Heartwarming.Farewell Fami Kamen Rider and Heartwarming.Channel Awesome. This is in addition to the recently discussion Gushing re-additions. These seem to edge around troping RL people, even without the problem of the RL person being a sexual abuser/groomer. What's the appropriate course of action here?
openShould this be considered Word Cruft?
The word ‘check’. Specifically, I often see examples that act as though they are checking items off a list (X requirement? Check. Y requirement? Check. Z requirement? Check plus.), which ruins the readability of the example. Should this be added to the list of Word Cruft?
open Why there's no pague on Kodomo No Jinkan? Anime
I'm not an idiot, I understand it's a very controversial manga but still... I first started reading it as a part of my quest to witness the most banned content on this world, but what I discovered the was one of the most unapologetic, engrossing stories I've ever read which not only do I believe is probably my favorite Manga now but it helped me cope with my own abuse story as a kid. In my case, it was very ambiguous, there was no violence and my abuser was not that much older than myself, I had always been told that the pain of abuse was instantaneous so as a kid I thought that if it didn't hurt instantly it wasn't abuse. But the pain started to creep up as the years went by and such ambiguousness was compounded with a lot of doubts no one wanted to answer or aknowledge could be asked since it was tabu to question the white and black morality of the situation and just doing it surely meant you were an abuser. But Kodomo No Jinkan asked those questions and slowly I felt I wasn't so alone, in my quest for edgy shit I thought I had become insensitive, but the uncomfortable actions combined with actually caring for the characters made me so uncomfortable I couldn't believe it. Near the end there's an abuse scene that made me angry and disgusted (that was the intention) to levels I didn't thought I was capable of feeling anymore. And the ending is quite controversial for not being ideal to many moral standard (maybe stretching them a bit), but that's kinda the point, when you have been broken you happiest ending will still be a shattered one for the eyes of most people but is one you should strive for instead of giving up because the perfect normal people's ending is unreachable. Also there's a very sick character with PTSD which at the end decides to start dealing with it after avoiding it for so long, it hurt deep inside in a very needed way. I know in appearance it looks bad and most people want it to "tell don't show" but I think of it as medicine, not for your normal headache as it is chemo extreme so I guess is fine if people can't take it, but to be hated after doing so much good it makes me feel alone. So I wanted to ask if we can include it back please, I think it can do a lot of good with people still stuck in between traumas they can't just tell anybody about.
I really can't make up my mind on this one:
Should A Very Potter Musical and its sequels, when mentioned on a trope page, go in the "Fan Works", "Theatre" or "Web Videos" folder?
I've seen it put in all three, and I just can't be sure which one is the most appropriate.