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openAre images blatantly taken with a smartphone of a book good? Literature
I didn't see anything on Administrivia.How To Pick A Good Image, so just double-checking if a picture taken of a book's artwork where it's taken at angle so the page fold is clearly visible within the picture is fine or not.
openProblem Troper
Rtkh 68 has made some very complain-y and shoehorned edits in regards to The Last of Us Part II, and have edit warred.
This entry on this page, which I've deleted:
"Without the pesky necessity of asking the animators what they thought in the process. Leaks already hint that a lot of people were pointlessly and needlessly made very uncomfortable during a time where a game this nihilistic and depressing REALLY doesn't help with the current climate."
They called the whole game a Self-Insert Fic on the YMMV page, and added "meanwhile the lead writer turns a scene into a Self-Insert Fic that makes us all cringe until our faces hurt" to the Laconic page.
The Tear Jerker page has several problematic edits, including edit warring. First all they added was "RIP Ellie and Joel" which is a ZCE and incorrect regardless. It was deleted and they re-added it with "RIP Ellie and Joel, died to a golf club." This was also deleted and they re-added it again with "Rest in Peace Joel, Murdered with a golf-club for wokepoints." This was deleted, and their final re-addition was "Rest in Peace Joel, Murdered with a golf-club for wokepoints." Note these edits were made prior to the game's official release.
The Tear Jerker page also has this entry: "the fact this absolute joke of a game was hailed as a 10/10 GOTY masterpiece by all the official review sources. Metacritic tells the real story."
openJustifying Edit
Hey everyone, I was told that my addition of an aversion to the YMMV page for KH 3's "Informed Wrongness" was taken down due to indention issues and I unintentially started a war thinking user error was preventing it from saving. I realize now that tropers were removing it due to the issue but when I asked the moderater and troper who reported the situation to help explain the right place to put it, I never got a response.
As I would like to contribute in an appropriate manner, could someone help me find where an aversion to a trope on a YMMV page would go? I was under the impression so long as the aversion was valid and/or had examples to back it up it could be posted.
I also read the editing page to learn more and while the over all thing was confusing, the simple point was helpful: Bullets for tropes, * for secondary's of that trope and so on. This being the case, can someone help me figure out what I need to do to correctly post said aversion? Thanks
openDraft Discarding Policy?
I don't understand the reason ~@Deep Fiemott left for discarding their own draft Show The Sled, and my private message asking why got no response so far. I was just about to join the discussion when the discard surprised me. Is it okay for me to restore the draft?
openWhat to do with a page of non-examples
I once blanked an example page by moving all the examples elsewhere, forgetting (or neglecting to check intil now) that this was against the rules. I am very sorry and grateful that I was not banned. The question remains, though: What should I do with an example page in which every example seems a non-example? I had asked in the page discussion and received no response for quite a long time.
Edited by doomquokkaopen Adorkable TRS announcement
Adorkable is in the Administrivia.Trope Repair Shop. It was decided that we're going to split it into an objective in-universe trope (its name is going to be Dorks Are Cute). The old page Adorkable becomes a YMMV-trope.
The trope has over 11 thousand wicks, so it's going to be a ton of work and any help is appreciated.
Links:
Please don't reply to this post. This is just a thing to bring awareness to the TRS thread and the TLP draft.
openSo Bad Its Horrible: The Clash? Music
There seems to be some debate in Music: Albums over whether or not Cut the Crap by The Clash belongs there. It's apparently been added and deleted twice. I've never listened to the album in question, so I can't speak for its quality. What say you?
Edited by BKelly95openPersona 4 Kaji YMMV Removal Videogame
yusiko removed a Fandom-Enraging Misconception from the Persona 4 page.
- Claiming Kanji is gay earns a similar reaction from the fandom. Like with Naoto, claiming Kanji is gay completely contradicts his character arc of acceptance of his personality and hobbies by forcing gender and sexuality expectations onto a character that is trying to ignore them. It also ignores the fact that Kanji shows an interest in girls, which would at best make him Bisexual.
Yusiko removed this and said: "cause kanji outright comes out of the closet at the end of his social link so trying to claim he is heterosexual is just homophobic".
I went ahead and rewatched the original ending of his Social Link based on their claim via this video for the Golden version and this for the original game.
From playing Persona 4 and rewatching the Social Link, it comes across as Yusiko cherry-picking information to claim those who don't see things the way they do are homophobic. The original text doesn't support this argument, and while interpreting him as Gay is fine, the game leans to him at best being Bisexual since he shows an interest in girls. Regardless of if the entry is fine/should be removed, I wanted to bring it up here since its a touchy subject.
Edit: Going through this persons edit history, they have gone to several tropes like Straight Gay and changed it to say he for sure is, or removing entries like Bi The Way regarding him. Many of these are spread out over the years since this user isn't very active but it looks like a Single-Issue Wonk.
Edited by keyblade333openEdit war on Hazbin Hotel
Duchess Snow keeps trying to add an Unfortunate Implications example to YMMV.Hazbin Hotel. The first example didn't have a citation as the trope requires, so I deleted it. Then they added it again, but with a citation from the creator, not the people complaining. So I deleted it again, but then they re-added the example again with citations from a couple Tumblr blogs, even though, as the trope says, "The citation should be in a reputable source. We'd prefer you cite something a bit more formal than someone's Tumblr blog. Anyone can write a blog post and then call it a 'citation'." I've had to delete the example no less than three times.
openDoes this seem like a leak to you? Videogame
I added this to Trivia.Super Smash Bros Ultimate earlier today after the Min Min reveal:
It was removed about six minutes later by snivyTsutarja, who said "I don't think this is a leak."
Do you think this counts as a noteworthy leak?
openMusic.Madonna Music
The page image for Madonna was changed months ago without providing any Image Pickin' discussion. In my opinion, while it's a "better image" than the previous one, it's kinda gaudy to me. So, I had set up an Image Pickin' discussion in regards to a better suggestion than that one that also associates Madonna and her whole career.
openNot a Clueless Aesop? Western Animation
My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic S1 E10 "Swarm of the Century"
- Clueless Aesop: Probably not entirely clueless, but as more than one viewer has noted, the aesop of this episode, if taken as the face value "you should listen to what your friends have to say instead of dismissing them", almost falls flat when one remembers that Pinkie Pie hardly ever actually tried explaining that she knows what parasprites are and how to get rid of them, giving up after one attempted explanation. In particular, Twilight specifically asks Pinkie if she knows anything about the Parasprites, only for Pinkie to mutter that she needs a trombone and leave without explanation. Considering all things, of course, this could more or less lead to a Double Aesop, as Pinkie pointing out at the end how she tried to tell them when they wouldn't listen makes it evident that she did learn the importance of explaining herself properly.
This seems more like a Broken Aesop, since Clueless Aesop is when a show fumbles in teaching harsh subject matter. Pretty sure "listen to your friends" isn't controversial. It also just seems like it's arguing with itself with the Double Aesop paragraph.
Also posted this here, but got no response.
open Community recap Live Action TV
I deleted this from Community S2 E01: Anthropology 101:
- Jerkass Has a Point: Jeff is the sympathetic one in this episode. He points out to Britta that making a public declaration of love in front of a crowd put a lot of pressure on him unfairly, and proves it when he does the same thing to her. Likewise, he told Annie their kiss was a mistake because he sees her as a kid and there's a power imbalance. It was unfair for everyone to judge him for sleeping with Britta and then kissing Annie because he wasn't together with either of them and isn't looking for a serious relationship.
With the edit reason: Jeff is not the sympathetic one in this episode. He isn't really considerate of their feelings and is just doing it to one up britta. That makes him kind of a jerk (without a point).
A couple of days later Jayalaw readded it back under the YMMV page under Unintentionally Unsympathetic. This is a stealth edit war right?
openEdit-warring on YMMV.Kingdom Hearts III Videogame
neiberger88 added a Justifying Edit on the Informed Wrongness entry on YMMV.Kingdom Hearts III and even though it has been removed by two different tropers, the same troper readded it twice on that same page
Edited by Loekman3openSplitting two pages that have the same name
There is a film called A Simple Wish and a DBZ fic with its own page here that is also called A Simple Wish. Both are completely different in terms of plot and overall content.
Should they be completely split and differentiated from each other?
openNo Title
There are two mentions of Quieter Than Silence on QuoteSource.Other in two separate folders which one should I delete
Edited by Hjhorton21openHypocrite Trope
I just wanted to flag that the wick checks have been done on how the Hypocrite Trope is being used, and the results have been reported here.
It's taken me a couple of weeks of complete them, so people may not be watching the forum thread closely. I apologise for the slow progress; hopefully, everyone who was involved in the thread will no longer have to wait on me to complete my bit.
Edited by WyldchyldopenDo you italicize a ShowWithinAShow?
It's not a real work so I'm not sure if you need to italicize its name, or put it in quotes, or what.
For some reason, the Useful Notes page on autism is called High-Functioning Autism.
This is weird, because the page is about the whole spectrum, not high-functioning autism in particular.
Additionally, many autistic people disagree with the use of the terms "high-functioning" and "low-functioning", because it carries Unfortunate Implications. For example, calling someone "high-functioning" implies that they should be able to adapt to society and act "normally" (read: like a neurotypical/non-autistic person), and that if they have difficulties due to their autism, it's a failing on their part (imagine someone saying "You should be able to handle this, you're high-functioning!). It also dehumanizes low-functioning people and suggests that they're "lesser" compared to the higher-functioning ones.
The preferred terminology is "support needs" (e.g. "low support needs" instead of "high-functioning) since it acknowledges that even people with milder autism may occasionally require support and accommodations, while not belittling those who do have more needs.
Here's an image that kinda explains it◊, and here's a somewhat more in-depth article.
So, how about swapping the current title and the redirect, Autism? And maybe add a section explaining why functioning labels are bad (I'd do it myself, but a. the page is locked, and b. it feels weird adding that when the page's title uses functioning labels).
Edited by Zuxtron