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That has nothing really to do with the memes, so it should probably be cut. On Spotlight-Stealing Title:

• Gargoyles to Gargoyles: The Goliath Chronicles
  • Which are no longer considered to be canonical by the author, and were ignored for the sequel comic book series, other than the one episode which he worked on.

First, the indentation is totally wack. Second, I don’t think it having Canon Discontinuity by the author has anything to do with the trope.

Edited by antenna_ears on Nov 12th 2020 at 12:07:26 PM

I know that I've posted this before, but nobody even noticed it. So I'm posting it again:

Stupid Statement Dance Mix gets quite nattery at times.

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I'm not sure if this is the right forum to post this but just stumbled upon this in C'est la Vie:

• Life Imitates Art:- In one story arc, the überbitch Tiffany Nguyen humilates Mona over Lucas, publicly, in front of a works' social party. Mona seethes with fury, but is unable to retaliate openly as she knows Tiffany is Donna's boss. Anything she does might result in Donna's working life being made miserable. But Mona pledges evil and disproportionate revenge.

At the time this troper caught up with this story arc in the CLV archive, British TV was screening an imported live-action docu from Australia, detailing the life and work of Customs and Excise and Immigration at Australia's main airport and point of entry. One story was about two Vietnamese women who had just flown in from L.A. and who had been detained with a bag full of hard drugs, which they denied all knowledge of, claiming somebody had planted it on them. The show ended with the two Vietnamese-Americans being hauled off to prison (Prisoner: Cell Block H?) and facing lengthy terms inside. The name of one of the two women?

Tiffany Nguyen.

Oh, Mona, you are not to be annoyed...

I commented this out for the mean time and I'm trying to edit this myself. But I'm not really sure where to start since I'm not familiar with the webcomic, not to mention all the other things needed to be fixed in the page.

Edited by cute_heart on Nov 19th 2020 at 10:06:15 AM

Read the letter Cricket!

Wanton Cruelty to the Common Comma is pure Nightmare Fuel for several good reasons.

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Does the description look better now?

EDIT: Stupid Statement Dance Mix has been cleaned, I think.

Edited by LaundryPizza03 on Nov 20th 2020 at 11:12:32 AM

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There's still a bunch of natter. Also, Stupid Statement Dance Mix wasn't fixed.

Edited by ChillyBeanBAM on Nov 20th 2020 at 10:07:55 AM

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Are you referring to the examples or the description? Only the descriptions were cleaned.

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Examples.

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I took another look at the C'est la Vie example and realized it's just shoehorning two different scenarios and the name Tiffany Nguyen is coincidentally similar.

I cut this instead since the documentary didn't even imitate anything on the webcomic.

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From the Real Life section of In Harmony with Nature:

• Often assumed to be the case with native North American society, but not really. These guys lived in complicated societies with trade routes, urban centers, and, yes, deforestation. On the other hand, they did understand the North American environment far better than the white settlers did, but that was because they have lived there for thousands of years before any settlers came. It turns out that Native people are human, and not, in fact, elves. Even so the trope also has a glimmer of truth to it as well. The Native peoples of the Americas generally considered all animals, natural phenomena, and even the land itself (especially mountains and springs) to be living beings on par with humans, and treated them as such, with a mixture of awe (at their wealth and power), respect (as individuals with their own wants and needs), frustration (when things didn't go as expected), gifts (as recompense for resources taken or favors to be asked), and threats, trickery, or bargaining (when all else failed). In some cases though their beliefs were destructive, such as the idea that two deer would be born for each one killed. Some of the Native peoples significantly altered their environments, such as by periodically cutting and burning the forest, which cleared land for farming or to help the deer herds they hunted in getting food.

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A really egregious example, from the main page of Digital Piracy Is Evil:

• That really weird Anvilicious episode of The Proud Family. Penny meets a mysterious, Matrix-like stranger who turns her ridiculously old computer that can only play Pong into some kind of supercomputer by... moving some stuff around. Yeah. Then he shows her THE INTERNET and the magical stash of evil illegal music it contains. Soon, the whole world knows about it and the music companies don't make any money anymore. It also compared downloading music to using drugs. Then, the police surround her house and they show a musician who has actually gone broke because of piracy. Penny tells the Matrix-kid to go away and then this makes everything all right. The episode ends with no conclusion other than Penny putting on a pair of sunglasses, jumping out her window and flying off into the sky. This episode can perhaps be described like the South Park example listed above, except played completely straight.

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I think it would be best to remove the paragraph that goes "Then the police..." because that's just extra stuff that's not needed.

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Apologies if I'm posting too much, but...

Even this very wiki's Fridge page is not safe from natter and tons of First-Person Writing.

EDIT: I've commented it out since I dunno how to fix it.

Edited by ChillyBeanBAM on Nov 25th 2020 at 5:33:35 AM

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You can just rewrite it to not be first-person. For example:

"I've seen a few times where people will refer to a "scoop" of Eye Scream. I just realized it's a pun on the term "a scoop of ice cream", and makes further sense since the character in question has their eye scooped out." -> "When people refer to a "scoop" of Eye Scream, it's a pun on the term "a scoop of ice cream," and makes further sense since the character gets their eyes scooped out.

Though some of them aren't great examples either.

"I realized the meaning of the words "Sequel Hook": The question mark looks like a hook." What question mark? At the end of The End... Or Is It?? Pretty sure it's called a Sequel Hook cuz it hooks you to watch the sequel.

I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.

This is on FoxTrot:

• Another strip has Jason yelling at Paige for enjoying Return of the King because she has a crush on Orlando Bloom, rather than Jason, who loves it because he's a long-time Tolkien geek. A lot of what Jason says would later become common rhetoric for toxic fandoms and gatekeepers who furiously try to keep women out of geek culture.

Jason: Stop gushing about the movie! You aren't allowed to!
Paige: Why not?
Jason: The "Lord of the Rings" films are for people like me to love!

• This argument would also go on to be used as a broad brush to paint any fandom as toxic, even if the fans defending it have valid criticisms of anyone attempting to join with limited knowledge or a known agenda. Ironically, this results in a self-sustaining loop of the fanbase becoming more insular, leading to more decriment as being toxic, resulting in yet more insulation.

Second bullet is redundant.

I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.

Ah, thanks.

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When helping out with wick cleaning for Art Major Biology, I'm sensing some lecture mode for The Simpsons S2 E11: "One Fish, Two Fish, Blowfish, Blue Fish":

• Art Major Biology: Contrary to how it is potentially depicted here, the actual Fugu poison is a paralytic neurotoxin, not a slow-acting asymptomatic killer. The toxin (known as tetrodotoxin) causes paralysis by blocking sodium ions in nerve axons, preventing any brain signals from being sent and causing muscles to cease movement, including involuntary breathing muscles, and the actual death comes from the person being unable to breathe.
  • The other difference is that while tetrodotoxin has no known antidote, the treatment for fugu (if one can do it fast enough) is to be placed on life support and have the stomach pumped until the poison is metabolized and the body can regain function. It is not the untreatable and delayed death sentence that fugu is shown to be here, and it is certainly not asymptomatic (i.e. there would be NO ambiguity about whether he was poisoned).
  • If the fugu had actually been improperly prepared, Homer would have known after less than 30 minutes if he had been poisoned, and then realized he would have been fine. Even if Homer ate a nonlethal dose, he would have likely suffered major convulsions, seizures, and potential heart failure within 1-4 hours of ingestion.

How should this be trimmed?

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So, I was checking on a new film called Run and I found some examples that I think it's natter:

• Wham Line: A couple, at least:
  • The pharmacist's telling Chloe "It's for your dog" is not only a Wham Line, it's also something of a Despair Event Horizon for her and a Moral Event Horizon for Diane.
• Wham Shot: Chloe finds her own death certificate ... well, the real Chloe's death certificate, anyway.

The first one is possibly a ZCE while the second one seems to have a Word Cruft. So, can you please check them if they are natter? Sorry if I'm wrong.

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Putous and its subpages have horrid amounts of First-Person Writing and some natter.

Edited by ChillyBeanBAM on Nov 29th 2020 at 2:28:38 AM

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This is what I did to it:

• Art Major Biology: In reality, fugu poison — tetrodotoxin — is not an untraceable poison whose only symptom is sudden death after 24 hours. It's a neurotoxin that causes complete muscle paralysis, and the most common cause of death is the resulting inability to breathe. The toxin starts taking effect within 30 minutes, and while it has no antidote, it is treatable if the victim can be rushed to the hospital and placed on life support until the poison is eliminated from the body.

Anyone have any idea how to rewrite this example on Birds of a Feather?

• Mobile Suit Gundam Unicorn: Banagher and Audrey. One of the reasons why they bond quickly is the revelation that both spent the majority of their childhoods on the move. Audrey/Mineva and Riddhe develop this too when they both discover that they're trying to break away from the continuity of their respective families' past professions. Banagher also develops this later with Marida when they find out that they're both Cyber-Newtypes.
  • Except that Banagher ISN'T a Cyber-Newtype at all, he's a perfectly natural one. All Marida said was that they might not be that different, after all Banagher saw inside of Marida and saw that her life was full of sadness (She survived the first Neo Zeon war only to be prostituted and subjected to constant abuse and abortions, until Suberoa saved her). It's more than likely that Marida saw similar trauma in Banagher's life (Thus far the anime suggested his parents doctored his memories, he was taken away from his father when he was young and then his mother died and left him alone). Nothing in the anime has suggested that Banagher is a cyber-newtype and in fact the novels explicitly state that Cyber-Newtypes (like Frontal) cannot activate the La+ system or open Laplace's box.

I'm not familiar with the work, but the second bullet makes it sound like the Banagher+Marida section (of the first bullet) should be rewritten to be about their shared trauma, rather than both being Cyber-Newtypes, which apparently they aren't. Or perhaps they don't qualify for this trope at all?

Can someone please check my previous post? It's been about few days.

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This is on South Park under Acceptable Targets:

• Pedophiles receive some of the harshest treatment from the show, even when an individual's pedophilia accusations are rather dubious, such as with the "Stop Touching Me Elmo" toy from "The Black Friday Trilogy" based on the pedophilia accusations against Kevin Clash, Elmo's original voice actor and puppeteer on Sesame Street, despite that specific charge being Clash having an alleged mutual relationship with one sixteen-year-old, rather than preying on multiple young children per the classic idea of a "pedophile" in most people's heads, which the premise of the "Stop Touching Me Elmo" toy depends on in order to work.

Example is about a person rather than a character, failing In-Universe Examples Only. Cut.

Wham Line is ZCE, and the second half of it should be axed. Second bullet should be rewritten as:

• Wham Shot: Chloe finds the real Chloe's death certificate.

Other examples need natter and misuse cleanup as well. For example:

• Bittersweet Ending: More sweet than bitter but it still counts. Diane is sent to prison for everything she's done and in the seven years that follow, Chloe manages to have a successful life by developing prosthetics for children. On top of that, she has now improved her walking, is married and has children of her own and she's finally reunited with her birth parents. Not to mention that she gets her revenge on Diane by telling her to "open wide" while she has the green pills in her hand. However, said revenge implies that she's still traumatized by everything Diane put her through and despite having a successful life, she may not be able to move on from the trauma. Also, Tom the postal worker is probably dead.

I get the impression from the first line that it is Square Peg, Round Trope.

Edited by LaundryPizza03 on Dec 1st 2020 at 11:49:29 AM

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