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edited 7th Nov '17 9:59:04 AM by Fighteer

SumDumNerd Shadow of Eternity from your worst nightmares Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
Shadow of Eternity
Apr 15th 2019 at 12:10:56 AM

[tup] Burke and Beast Killer

Just finished the Netflix film The Silence... wasn't great, but the main human antagonist MAY be CM material... then again, he doesn't pop up until the last third, so... I dunno. Maybe, maybe not.

I am evil. I am madness. You are but a thought in my reality. My fanfiction. Read it.
Apr 15th 2019 at 12:13:09 AM

Mmm. I'll abstain on Gus. Sounds more bark than bite with a pretty limited body count—not sure if he actually reaches the level needed for "pure evil." The clear intent to rape, admittedly, might put him over. I'll sleep on it.

As for the comment on "more complicated than it needs to be," this is the proposal format we've agreed upon over years of discussion and formation of criteria for the trope. The trope's a mess if the definition isn't stringent and everything needs to be overviewed first.

Edited by Scraggle on Apr 15th 2019 at 12:14:45 PM

Apr 15th 2019 at 12:14:37 AM

Saw Captain Marvel and Shazam! today and the former was pretty good while the latter was really good. PM me to discuss the latter please.

papyru30 The powerfu popula prestigiou papyru Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
The powerfu popula prestigiou papyru
Apr 15th 2019 at 1:30:13 AM

[tup] Burke

Abstaining on Gus. Are there any other examples of him inciting violence other than killing his cohort and burning the house?

TheMadCr0w Crimson Alchemist from Latin Land Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
Crimson Alchemist
Apr 15th 2019 at 1:36:38 AM

[tup] Beast and Burke.

Just finished reading the Resident Evil canon tie-in manga Heavenly Island. The Big-Bad Ensemble is composed of a stereotypical Mad Scientist and a sexy Psycho for Hire. The scientist was The Dragon to Alex Wesker and used the population of an island for his twisted experiments, but that's definately not heinous enough for this franchise. We do get a cameo from Ozwell Spencer; that intrigued me, was he ever proposed here before?

My motives aren't so sophisticated as "revenge" or "honor" or any of that... The reason I killed all of those men... was because I could.
miraculous "Your little play date is over. Now go home." from south africa
"Your little play date is over. Now go home."
Apr 15th 2019 at 1:42:16 AM

@acw: Why is Silent Hill: Homecoming not potholed to the game as Silent Hill: Homecoming

"One chose to avert his eyes from the truth, and allowed evil to taint his awakened power..."
Apr 15th 2019 at 2:22:11 AM

[tup] to Nathaniel Burke.

Edited by MGD107 on Apr 15th 2019 at 2:35:51 AM

G-Editor I'm above this, so I'm not gonna comment. from Skewl Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
I'm above this, so I'm not gonna comment.
Apr 15th 2019 at 2:43:35 AM

[tup] to Burke

I don't think Oswell Spencer was ever discussed here, but you can EP him if you think he counts.

Anywho been looking at Il Carnefice, and I think there might be an inaccuracy, though nothing that disqualifies him. While he does indeed rape an innocent woman, it's never been said that he forced everyone to watch. other than that everything about Il Carnefice is accurate and he's still very heinous enough to keep. With that here an updated re-write for The Executioner.

  • Project Legacy/Brotherhood: Il Carnefice (''The Executioner") is an executioner in the service of the Borgias who expresses brutality and enthusiasm in his work. Given a list of people to execute by Fiora Cavazza, he tells her a sick joke that she on the execution list leaving her horrified; since Il Carnefice is illiterate, he doesn't go over the list and just executes who he wants, regardless of guilt or innocence, displaying the chopped body parts of his numerous victims to the crowds. He would also rape an innocent women before hanging her and sends his men to kill her grieving husband when he tries to remove her corpse from Il Carnefice's noose.

I'll put this to the Drafts page pronto

Edited by G-Editor on Apr 14th 2019 at 11:44:19 PM

I like him more than the others.
PolarPhantom Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
Apr 15th 2019 at 2:44:18 AM

[up][up][up] Likely because the game is quite awful. Nah, that's a joke, but it is really bad.

[tup] That Burke. Didn't think we'd get something from the Steel film of all things.

As for Ozwell Spencer, I don't know if he's ever been formally proposed, but he's one of our big examples of how Offscreen Villainy can prevent someone from counting. Do you think this cameo gives him enough?

Edited by PolarPhantom on Apr 15th 2019 at 10:44:58 AM

Darkness rises and Light to meet it.
CloisterTheStupid from Oop North Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
Apr 15th 2019 at 2:54:36 AM

[tup] Cadwell and Burke.

KazuyaProta There once was a man on Peru- from Spongebob's dreams Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
There once was a man on Peru-
Apr 15th 2019 at 4:20:05 AM

[tup] Nathaniel Burke.

More unexpected CM.

Watch me destroying my country
ACW Unofficial Wiki Curator for Complete Monster from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.)
Apr 15th 2019 at 4:30:47 AM

Yes to Burke (did he...not realize his weapon would reflect off the armor?).

Mir: Nice catch. I've fixed it.

Ah, this rewrite for Viper:

  • Dr. Viper was once Elrod Purvis, a greedy scientist whose plan to sell the Viper Mutagen to the highest bidder ended with his supposed death and subsequent mutation into the evil Viper. In his schemes to destroy Megakat City and replace it with a festering "Megaswamp City", Viper regularly attempts to mutate and murder all he can through his chemical weapons and monsters; painfully transforms one-shot villain Morbulus into a mindless bacteria creature that he sets loose on Megakat City, leading to dozens of deaths, including that of Viper's former colleague Zyme; attempts to drown the entire city in toxic spores; teams up with the aforementioned Dark Kat; and finally floods the city with mutative chemicals in a bid to mutate everyone within the city. Regularly murdering innocents in his attempted conquest and seeing beauty only in the fetid and festering, Dr. Viper was about as remorselessly evil as his sinister appearance would suggest.
I'll add it to the batch, along with these two:
  • Project Legacy/Brotherhood: Il Carnefice (''The Executioner") is an executioner in the service of the Borgias who expresses brutality and enthusiasm in his work. Given a list of people to execute by Fiora Cavazza, he tells her a sick joke that she on the execution list leaving her horrified; since Il Carnefice is illiterate, he doesn't go over the list and just executes who he wants, regardless of guilt or innocence, displaying the chopped body parts of his numerous victims to the crowds. He would also rape an innocent women before hanging her, and sends his men to kill her grieving husband when he tries to remove her corpse from Il Carnefice's noose.
  • Exmortis: Lord Vlaew is a cruel, power-hungry demon lord whose existence predates man and beast. Usurping his brother Azrael and sealing him away in a hellish prison to be tortured for eternity, Vlaew ruled with an iron fist over the lesser entities before being overthrown himself, and ultimately claiming his title of leader of a legion of banished entities he called the Exmortis. Billions of years later, he has Xavier Rehayem's daughter possessed when he translates the rite required to open the gates to the Crimson Realm, leading her father to kill her. When a hunter stumbles across Rehayem's house a century later, he torments him to madness until he submits and becomes the Hand of Repose, ordering the murder of five Soul Bearers to grant the Exmortis passage to Earth, brutally slaughtering most of the human race in the process. Once his legion becomes disposable to him, he manipulates Mr. Hannay—killing him when the job is done—into slaying the Hand of Repose so that he can claim dominion over the Earth Realm himself as a playground of suffering.

CM Drafts; Pending CM Writeups
TommyFresh Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Apr 15th 2019 at 4:45:03 AM

[tup] to the Beast Killer and Burke. I'm not really sure about Gus, it sounds like he doesn't quite do enough.

AustinDR Only requires a small percentage of my power. from Fresh and ready for life.
Only requires a small percentage of my power.
Clown-Face Wild Child from Canada Relationship Status: In another castle
Wild Child
Apr 15th 2019 at 5:55:35 AM

[tup]burke.

Why so serious?
ElfenLiedFan90 UN Owen Was Her from Jakarta,Indonesia Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Apr 15th 2019 at 6:09:46 AM

Yes to Burke but I'm giving a nay to Gus. Unfortunately, as Scraggle said, he's more bark than bite there, and as a bandit, he would have opportunities to be worse. He only has a body count of one with intent to rape the sisters. In format, I'd be more lenient if he kills other people, but I don't quite think he goes that extra mile.

I'll have a candidate who never got a formal EP to be up for reconsideration, soon after a rewatch.

Edited by Lightysnake on Apr 15th 2019 at 7:18:13 AM

Bullman Relationship Status: Abstaining
Apr 15th 2019 at 6:13:39 AM

Yes to Burke. No to Gus.

ACW Unofficial Wiki Curator for Complete Monster from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.)
Apr 15th 2019 at 6:21:56 AM

Anyone know about 7th Son and can expand John Alpha?

CM Drafts; Pending CM Writeups
ElfenLiedFan90 UN Owen Was Her from Jakarta,Indonesia Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
papyru30 The powerfu popula prestigiou papyru Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
The powerfu popula prestigiou papyru
Apr 15th 2019 at 6:31:43 AM

According to Spencer's folder on the RE5 page he has a Pet the Dog moment in that game. He may still count though depending on weather or not it's an actual example.

Apr 15th 2019 at 6:46:41 AM

[tup] to Burke, abstain on Gus pending further information.

Complete Monster quotes cleanup
Michealthehero21 Relationship Status: Abstaining
Apr 15th 2019 at 7:15:39 AM

[tup] To Burke and everyone iíve missed except Gus. I figured that Burke would count, but iíve never got around to suggest him.

miraculous "Your little play date is over. Now go home." from south africa
"Your little play date is over. Now go home."
Apr 15th 2019 at 8:09:21 AM

[tdown]Gus

I dont think hes quite bad enough for this. There arent any notable acts here to put him over the line.

"One chose to avert his eyes from the truth, and allowed evil to taint his awakened power..."

Single Proposition: Complete Monster Quotes
19th Feb '19 3:43:44 AM
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