Is this tropeworthy/Chairs?

Makes sense. I'd be for a retool with that category + political rez, not a cut.

Oh I was going to suggest extracting that from The Rez if I wrote the OP — I wasn't necessarily going to suggest burning it all.

Anyway I'm resetting the clock for my wick check. If by 8:00 P.M., EST no one grabs this check for an OP of their own on the TRS Queue, I'll draft an OP and queue it up after some more slots are taken. Until then, my check is up for grabs.

Is Evil Redhead really tropeworthy? A lot of the examples just look like "the bad guy happens to have red hair".

It helps that it's not an association we made up, but rather a well-documented preexisting stereotype.

Just found Hungry Weapon and Weapon Wields You. I don't think those two overlap enough for me to crosswick them?

But is Hungry Weapon just a weapon that can improve itself via Liquid Assets from its kills or has to perform Vampiric Draining to work?

If so, does it make it subtrope-worthy when it's applied to just weapons?

Is Specs of Awesome just a "badass with glasses"?

Scrolling Text seems to be just be "Scrolling Text exists", which seems chairs? Turning it into "Scrolling Text is too slow or too fast" seems like it could work, but what exactly Too Fast or Too Slow is, seems to be a personal, a.k.a YMMV thing?

It can't be chairs because dialogue in real life doesn't exist as scrolling text.

I think it's a trope, but certainly not because of the page description.

I think on its own, it's a mechanic that may or may not warrant actual examples, but some of the Painting the Medium examples that utilize scrolling speed to show how fast/slow a character is talking could be their own trope.

Scrolling Text is a game design choice to fit large Flavor Text to a small area, often due to interface not allowing pop-ups or to reduce player input. If the speed is intentional, it would be a trope, but I'm hesitant to call most of Video Game Interface Elements real tropes.

Edited by Amonimus on May 26th 2023 at 9:41:50 PM

- I guess like Follow the Bouncing Ball, used to control rhythm or pacing.

Follow the Bouncing Ball is literally a way to visualize karaoke.

What about my question?

Yeah, thats basically what it is. I know it's from the stereotypes associating glasses with weakness and nerdiness but plenty of characters that just happen to wear glasses and be badass/cool so naturally there's going some scope and decay issues as it's personal appearance + badass trope

Seems like it.

Might do a wick check later, then.

Is The Emperor chairs? It does say that they are usually portrayed as evil, and if it was specifically about emperors tending to be evil that would be a trope similar to God Save Us from the Queen!, but that's not a requirement for the trope (it explicitly says it includes good descriptions), the trope just seems to be "an emperor exists".

I vaguely remember ~Master N mentioning wanting to wick check The Emperor, though I could be wrong.

The Emperor is supposed to be the Evil Counterpart to The Good King, with some military focus. "Good Emperors" is potholed to The Good King as well.

God Save Us from the Queen! is Always Female and doesn't require that high power.

But the page says one thing the emperor can be is

• The Benevolent Emperor. Usually located in East-Asia (or an equivalent), the wise king is a benevolent (if usually distant from the heroes and their struggle) leader, who sides with the heroes when he finally shows up, and may act more as a promoted spiritual guide or priest than pure authority. They are the Big Good and/or Greater-Scope Paragon of the story. The few western examples will just be an expansion of the wise Royal Blood "True King". The Emperors of Mulan and The Last Samurai are prime examples. A President Charisma may be confused for this before The Reveal.

So this isn't a trope about emperors being evil, it's just a trope about emperors existing.

Yeah, I 100% agree that the trope comes off as, and is used as, “emperors exist” and should be brought to TRS. I have not gotten around to doing the check, but now that my college work is no longer swamping me, I should have more time.

Also, if The Emperor is supposed to be the Evil Counterpart to The Good King, then why is one an Emperor and the other a King? I figure both should be emperors or kings. Also, I always figured Evil Overlord as the Evil Counterpart to The Good King.

Edited by MasterN on May 28th 2023 at 4:28:41 AM

I think the idea behind that claim is the expectations associated with each title: kings are good, emperors are bad, queens are bad except when they're not.

Note that on the page "Benevolent Emperor" is potholed to The Good King, suggesting that's the trope for good rulers regardless of title (also note the "President Charisma" subtype), and the claim that it's "common in East Asia", expanded on in an earlier paragraph of the description as suggesting a more benevolent view of emperors in the East as opposed to Western-influenced works, a paragraph that was present as far back as the Internet Archive goes. It definitely seems like the trope as it stands is too broad to stand and should be sorted according to the actual types of rulers involved.

Edited by MorganWick on May 29th 2023 at 3:14:31 AM

It can be TRS's to be renamed into Evil Emperor (nice alliterative) if all cases of Good Emperors fit The Good King just as well or are subversions. Nothing more to really say without a wick check.

Edited by Amonimus on May 29th 2023 at 1:58:16 PM

But wouldn’t Evil Emperor be redundant with Evil Overlord?

Evil Overlord is more a fantasy warlord who has a more infinite amount of Mooks than a country. The Emperor normally can't fight and and has to resort to politics to push own population into war.