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Welcome to the Complete Monster proposal thread! This is the thread where new Complete Monster examples are vetted, approved, and written up. If you're looking for the general cleanup thread (for cuts, rewrites, expansions, and the like), please go here

Important: Before suggesting any new examples, please read the Frequently Asked Questions and Common Requests List; if you have any questions, the odds are high they are answered there. Additionally, please check here for the earliest date a work can be discussed (usually two weeks from the U.S. release date) and whether the work has already been reserved by another user.

Here is how the process works:

    Process 

  1. If you have a candidate to propose, you can simply come right in and propose them! If the character's run is brief, such as a single issue of a comic book, then a simple summary of their actions and any potential redeeming qualities will be enough; for longer-running candidates, an effortpost (EP) might be helpful for organizing the proposal. An EP is not outright required, but please be mindful that if a post becomes too clunky and unorganized, it can be very hard for other people to follow.

  2. After the proposal, there will be a 72-hour discussion and voting period, where people may ask questions and vote on the candidate. The number of upvotes must outnumber the downvotes by at least five for the character to be considered "approved".

  3. Three days after the proposal has been made, if the character has been approved, you may post the writeup (the text to be posted on the trope page itself) on the thread and send it to the drafts page. Your candidate will soon be added to the CM subpage. If the work has a page, you should add your candidate to the relevant YMMV page. Voila! It's that simple!

Outside of this process, we do have a few ground rules:

    Ground Rules 

  1. To keep the thread moving at a reasonable pace, there are some restrictions on when a proposal can be made. There should only be a maximum of four EPs posted both per page and per hour to ensure that nothing gets lost in the shuffle; additionally, each individual troper should only be proposing or writing up characters from a maximum of three works at a time (from initial proposals to end of their voting period). If your proposal would fall outside of either of these guidelines, we'd like to ask you to please wait until they would fit within; feel free to type them up on an outside document, and then when the time comes, you can just copy, paste, and post!

  2. No plagiarism of any kind. This is a very serious matter site-wide, as the website could get in actual legal trouble over this; as a result, this can very quickly lead to mod intervention. This can take many different forms:
    1. Direct plagiarism, i.e. wholesale copying. This is not only the easiest to find, but is also the most likely to warrant quick moderator intervention. To be clear, quoting in some places is perfectly acceptable, but it has to be very clear you're quoting from something else and it cannot be anything longer than a sentence or two - if you're quoting an entire work summary from Wikipedia, no one is going to believe you've actually consumed the work, so even if you cite your source, your candidate will be downvoted anyway.
    2. Self-plagiarism. Even if you can prove that you wrote the same text in both places, the site itself can't contain any of the duplicated text. If you already wrote something once before, it's not too hard to write it a second time.
    3. Using another site's work as a template for a proposal. Just because you don't copy and paste something directly doesn't mean it's any harder to detect if you're basing parts or all of your proposal on text someone else wrote. To be clear, this doesn't violate site rules and won't lead to mod intervention, but just like if you directly plagiarize, no one will believe you've consumed the work if you're clearly basing your proposal on something else. This thread largely operates on the honor system, and tweaking someone else's work to pass it off as your own is one of the fastest ways to lose trust.

  3. Votes must be for specific candidates, meaning no blanket voting (i.e. "yes to everyone I missed").

  4. If you are the first person to downvote a candidate, please provide an explanation of why when you do so. We're here for discussions above all, and a hit-and-run downvote doesn't facilitate anything.

  5. If a work is already reserved by another user, please don't comment on the work or any potential characters worth discussion before the discussion date. We know how exciting it is when a work has a keeper that you're waiting to talk about, but it's not fair to the person who reserved the work who is just as excited to lead the discussion to see the discussion getting spoiled before they get to do it. On the other hand, if the reservation only has one name attached, shoot them a PM - they may be down for a collaboration, which will get you in on the fun as well!

  6. Please keep the thread on-topic. While discussing the trope is fun and we encourage people to enjoy it, questions like "who's your favorite CM" are off-topic and can lead to thumps. That's the kind of question to take to people's PMs if they're willing. Similarly, while we encourage friendliness and familiarity with other users, posts should always have some kind of thread-relevant purpose; for instance, if you want to wish someone a happy birthday, feel free to, but if it's the only thing in the post, it's off-topic and needs something else alongside it. Again, though, while we strive for a friendly atmosphere, this is not Facebook; life updates are fun, but unless they have some kind of impact on your thread participation, please do not bring it here - we have Yack Fest for that.

  7. Please refrain from asking anything along the lines of "How Did We Miss This One?" In almost every case, the answer is simply "No one thought about it before". This Is a Wiki where everyone has different interests, and the fact that people missed a particular candidate, even one that seems like a textbook example of a trope or a character who is particularly iconic in pop culture, means absolutely nothing. The question is disruptive, has a simple and consistent answer, and provides nothing to any discussion.

  8. If you are suspended from parts of the website, it is still possible to participate!
    1. For users who are suspended from editing the wiki, you still have full access to this thread. You can propose candidates and write them up with no issues whatsoever; while you will have to ask someone else to post the entry to the relevant pages once it is done, all write-ups are considered thread-approved - as in, done by consensus - and thus doing so does not violate any rules regarding meatpuppeting.
    2. If you are suspended from the forums, your participation is limited but not impossible. It is still possible for a forum-suspended user to assist in creating the write-up for a character who has already been approved; as previously mentioned, write-ups are inherently considered a consensus-based edit and thus not tied to any one particular user. However, you can not assist in the proposal of a character; as a proposal is based around the forum rather than the wiki, doing so with a forum suspension qualifies as meatpuppeting.

  9. Please keep all discussions "in-house".
    1. What other wikis use for CM equivalents is irrelevant here.
    2. Please be wary of using other wikis, Fandom or otherwise, as sources of information. They are just as fallible as a site like Wikipedia in regards to accuracy because they can be edited by any user, just as this site can.
    3. Do not attempt to force a communication with an author in an attempt to gather evidence or settle a debate; besides the fact that this is a YMMV trope and thus author intent has variable weight depending on the circumstance, doing so may cross the line into drama exportation, which is prohibited site-wide.

If you would like to use an EP for your candidate, here's the general format. This format does not have to be followed exactly, but these are the main topics that need to be covered:

    Effortpost Template 

What is the work?

This is a brief summary of the work you're going to discuss. We don't need a full plot summary here, just however much we need to understand going into the discussion — it can even be as simple as quoting the summary on the work's page.

Who is the candidate and what have they done?

This is essentially the character's biography — who they are, their story, the crimes they commit, and, preferably (though not required), what happens to the candidate at the end. It does not have to include every single thing they ever do — for some villains, we'd be here all day if that was the case — but it should include the highlights of their journey.

Any redeeming qualities? Freudian Excuse?

This is where any potential redeeming characteristics or tragic backstory should be discussed. Do they have a tragic past? Do they show that Even Evil Has Standards or Even Evil Has Loved Ones? Maybe a Pet the Dog moment or two? This is where these should be discussed in full. Not every potential redeeming moment is a clear-cut disqualifier, but we should hear of any potential issues to ensure the character is discussed in full.

Are they bad enough?

A Complete Monster has to be particularly vile by the standard of the work they appear in. Therefore, you should look at what the character does compared to similar characters in the same work. This takes into account things like:

  • Their resource level (a human Serial Killer can't stand up to an alien Omnicidal Maniac, but they can be bad by the standard of other human serial killers)
  • The amount of time they have to work with (such as a one-shot character versus long-running antagonists)
  • The quantity vs. quality of their crimes compared to others (someone with a lower victim count but far more visceral and personal crimes could be considered as equally bad overall as someone with a higher body count but less horror involved)

Essentially, this section is an analysis of the kinds of villainy shown in the work and an explanation of why this particular character's villainy stands out within it.

Final verdict?

This is where you post your final conclusion on the character in question. You can continue elaborating on your reasons or even just say a simple "yes" or "no"; at this point, we've heard everything we need to hear.

IMPORTANT NOTICE: This thread tackles very serious and dark matters on a daily basis. We will be discussing things like murder, rape, torture, human trafficking, crimes against children, and in particularly dark cases, several of these issues at the same time. We keep a lighthearted air, but all candidates carry the general assumption that these are awful individuals committing disgusting crimes. We ask that if you participate, you do so with the requisite seriousness such dark topics require; exclamations of how gross something is, whether serious or sarcastic, are disrespectful to the topics at hand, and if you cannot handle such topics, please do not participate.

And that's everything you need to know. Welcome to the thread!


Edited by Twiddler on Jan 17th 2024 at 5:42:49 AM

EmperorGeode Not the Eye from A Galaxy far, far away Since: Oct, 2022 Relationship Status: On the prowl
Not the Eye
ACW Unofficial Wiki Curator for Complete Monster from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#28552: Oct 25th 2023 at 4:47:19 PM

Weak yes to the Devil. Don't try to cheat him (or, better yet, don't make bargains with him in the first place).

Pending:

We all good with the Hitler quote for Twilight Zone?

Edited by ACW on Oct 25th 2023 at 7:53:19 AM

CM Dates; CM Pending; CM Drafts
Bullman "Cool. Coolcoolcool." Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
"Cool. Coolcoolcool."
#28554: Oct 25th 2023 at 7:09:00 PM

Yes to the Devil and the Hitler quote.

ACW: Harry Potter – Dolores Umbridge is now a thing.

Edited by Bullman on Oct 25th 2023 at 9:09:21 AM

Fan-Preferred Couple cleanup thread
justakawaiigirl The Cinnamon Roll from California Since: Jun, 2021 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
The Cinnamon Roll
#28555: Oct 25th 2023 at 7:10:49 PM

Ashley from The Coffin of Andy and Leyley abuses her older brother, commits Villainous Incest, and is a Yandere, with seemingly no redeeming qualities outside from "hot" and a sympathetic backstory. I think she may count as a CM until more is revealed.

Nyaa!
Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#28556: Oct 25th 2023 at 7:40:33 PM

Unfortunately I don't know the work, or anything about it. Can you elaborate more, and on the sympathetic backstory?

Critica7 Self-Declared King of Everything from Smallville Since: Jul, 2019 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
Self-Declared King of Everything
#28557: Oct 25th 2023 at 7:42:28 PM

A sympathetic backstory can be enough to keep someone off the CM list. Sometimes it isn't, but you'll need to make a pretty convincing case for why it isn't.

Check out my current fanfiction project.
Ravok RIP Toriyama Since: Jun, 2015 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
RIP Toriyama
#28558: Oct 25th 2023 at 8:33:43 PM

Yes to the Devil!

The date has rolled around for discussion on The Fall of the House of Usher (2023), and after a lot of consideration, I ultimately don't think anyone counts. Almost all of the primary Ushers are horrible people, yet all have disqualifying features, so while none of them count for that reason, they're all so collectively terrible in various ways that it kind of disqualifies the one character who doesn't have any good qualities. For further detail:

  • Roderick and Madeline Usher are a pair of twin mass murderers who have deliberately used their pharmaceutical company Fortunato to pump out Ligodone, a dangerous painkiller, under the falsity of it being non-addictive and easy to manage; the show makes no bones about the fact that millions are dead because of it, with mountains of corpses shown as representation of the collective bodycount of their unempathetic greed. And while they have many, many familial problems and treat those around with them with varying levels of disdain and abuse, they both have at least one member of the family they are genuinely affectionate towards with no ulterior motives, and even they are horrified by the fates that befall some of their Usher clan.
  • The Usher children are all immoral people in their own ways—ranging from Leo's "mild" crimes (for this show) of serial cheating and trying to cover up his drunken murder of a pet cat; to Camille forcing her employees to sleep with her under threat of being fired; to Freddie paralyzing and torturing his wife for days—and pretty much all of them have their roles to play in letting Fortunato get away with its atrocities; nonetheless, every single one of them have some manner of redeeming features except, perhaps, Freddie, but even he is indicated to be a product of Roderick's abusive upbringing and was only ever searching for his father's love.
  • Arthur Pym (played by Mark Hamill himself) is The Dragon to the Ushers who has used his legal prowess and criminal connections to help them get away with their crimes for decades, as well as being a professional murderer. But he's genuinely loyal to the family for untold reasons, went through a vague, horrific expedition across the world in which his party fell apart and engaged in cannibalism and other acts of madness that are indicated to have really messed Pym up, and in a hilarious bit, even Pym himself has standards when references are made to a certain popular figure, remarking "Even I have my limits."
  • Verna is about the farthest thing from this trope you can be, as while she's a demonic, supernatural figure who orchestrates the rise and inevitable, horrific fall of the Usher clan as part of their Deal with the Devil, she's also Affably Evil, has standards against several of the family's crimes, and has many Pet the Dog moments.
  • And lastly, the Predecessor Villain to the Ushers is Rufus Griswold, a slimy misogynist and racist who used Fortunato to conduct illegal, unethical human trials on unwitting patients that resulted in, at least, 5 deaths with several more implied; Rufus had the bodies stolen out of the graves after their burials so that they could never be exhumed and examined further. He furthermore tries to frame a young Roderick for his crimes and only changes his mind when Roderick proves useful, and Rufus also delivers a horridly offensive, taunting monologue to a young Madeline in which he informs her that she'll never move up in the company unless she sleeps with him. He's a nasty piece of work and unlike the others has nothing redeeming about him, but ultimately...he's played as not nearly as bad as what the Ushers would become, with his measly 5 confirmed deaths being a drop in the bucket compared to the millions the Ushers would go on to kill, and when even the other protagonists like Freddie or Camille engage in nasty torture or sexual abuse of their positions, Rufus just ain't sticking out, and Roderick inheriting his role then becoming 10x worse than Rufus ever was firmly kicks him out of the running, methinks. Not helping matters is that it is Roderick and Madeline's murder of Rufus via burying him alive that is treated as their Moral Event Horizon, even if Rufus was a grade-A asshole.

Tonight I dine on monkey soup.
Powermaster201 The Emperor of Evil! Since: Apr, 2019 Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
The Emperor of Evil!
#28559: Oct 25th 2023 at 8:50:08 PM

From what I've heard, isn't the Grave of Andy and Leyley a Black Comedy with the becoming serial killers because of their Abusive Parents sold them out or something? I'm not familiar with the work too much beyond research and watching a few clips.

AustinDR Lizzid people! (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Lizzid people!
#28560: Oct 25th 2023 at 9:06:19 PM

Yeah. Was about to say that was my issue with the game: it leans too much into black comedy in my opinion.

TheGrayFox ....Phenomenal from A Lovecraftian fishing village Since: Sep, 2011
....Phenomenal
#28561: Oct 25th 2023 at 9:15:10 PM

Yeah, Ashley's a terrible person, but a lot of that terribleness is played for black comedy, and she does also have mitigating factors like a genuinely crappy childhood and being sold out to an organ-harvesting operation and nearly starved to death. She's not sympathetic by any means, but it's too much to upvote her as a CM either.

There remains a foothold out of this mire — now climb.
EmeraldEmperor Lies and Violence! Since: Oct, 2020
Lies and Violence!
#28562: Oct 25th 2023 at 9:17:30 PM

Yes to the Devil. I got really goddamn sidetracked today, but I'm back now, and with a fun one that I've been really looking forward to.

What's the work?

Ninjago: Dragons Rising is the sequel series to Ninjago, set many years after the latest battle against the malevolent embodiment of darkness itself, the Overlord. During that time, things have... changed, to put it lightly.

The biggest development? All the realms of the multiverse have violently merged together. The Ninja were scattered in the chaos, and have spent the years since protecting innocents from otherworldly monsters in far-flung corners of the world as they try to reunite. Lloyd, the Green Ninja, has taken up two apprentices of his own, Arin and Sora, and has been training them to become a new generation of heroes.

Their first Big Bad?

Who is Empress Beatrix?

The tyrant of the realm of Imperium, a dictatorship built around the worship of Beatrix as their rightful "Good Empress." Beatrix actually isn't the rightful heir—that would be her older twin sister, whose elemental powers she envied even as a child. However, Beatrix saw an opportunity to surpass her when the royal family was visited by a mysterious figure known as Lord Ras, who proposed that they form an alliance to capture powerful "Source Dragons" and harness their life force to conquer the multiverse. The Emperor, Beatrix's father, threw him out, but Beatrix meets with Ras in secret and agrees to his proposal. Together, they assassinate her father and imprison her sister, allowing Beatrix to take the throne.

Now normally, Imperium had a peaceful relationship with their realm's native dragons, who freely provided energy to grant them infinite electricity for their technological growth. Beatrix, however, wanted more. She reshaped Imperium's culture to center around the hunting of dragons, putting out massive amounts of propaganda portraying them as nothing more than evil, mindless beasts, and is intent on capturing every last one in existence to subject them to experiments and torture to extract their powerful life force. The experience can either be prolonged for years at a time, or they can rip out the life force immediately, in what some of her citizens describe as draining the dragons "to dust."

Eventually, Imperium manages to capture one of the fabled Source Dragons, in an event that is heavily implied to have caused the merging of the realms. With the entire multiverse (by which I mean 15 other universes) at her fingertips, Beatrix begins sending her hunters to capture dragons from these new neighboring kingdoms. This naturally attracts Lloyd's attention, and he leads his students in infiltrating Imperium to free all their dragons. This escape attempt escalates into a near city-wide riot, until Beatrix assembles her army to surround the dragons and orders them all killed, while attempting to have the Ninjas' dragon companion—a baby named Riyu—tortured to death to crush the spirit of this rebellion. Obviously, they all escape, but Beatrix is left enraged by the encounter and, after imprisoning Ras for his failure to stop them, directs all her soldiers to hunting the Ninja for revenge—not caring that this means they'll be too busy to hunt dragons to provide power to her people.

While all this is going on, the merged realms are unraveling. And if they come apart, then they'll unravel the rest of existence with them. The Ninja begin hunting three mcguffin cores that could be used to stabilize reality, but the Empress catches wind of this and decides she wants the cores in order to weaponize the unraveling, uncaring to the notion of stopping the cracks in the universe from emerging and instead intent on using them to destroy the Ninja—along with anyone else who may stand in the way of her conquest.

Lloyd leads a team back into Imperium to steal the cores from her, helped along by some teenage citizens who have wised up to the Empress' lies... only to immediately be ambushed by Beatrix, who declares that she'll have the kids executed for their treason. Fortunately, they managed to get their hands on some outtakes of her propaganda films—outtakes that have her badmouth her citizens and loudly exposit all the lies she's told them to fluff her ego—and livestreams it to the entire realm.

Beatrix... doesn't take it well, to say the least. Her scientists finish the core superweapon—which she had commissioned despite warnings that the process could destroy all of Imperium—and begins indiscriminately firing it into the city, madly cackling as it creates massive cracks in reality that begin sucking everyone up into what she believes is their oblivion. Doing so naturally begins destabilizing the merging, threatening to completely destroy all the realms... not that Beatrix cares, as she dismisses the Ninja's warnings as lies while she continues trying to kill them.

Long story short, Lloyd disarms her and steals back the cores, which he then uses to undo the unraveling and bring back everyone Beatrix seemingly killed. Beatrix herself, having been knocked into one of the cracks in the fighting, was presumably also brought back, though her whereabouts after being dethroned are unknown.

Mitigating factors?

Beatrix is a narcissist par excellence, entirely self-centered and uncaring to anything but enacting her will over others. She betrays Ras without hesitation once he fails her, she imprisoned and murdered her own family, and she takes total glee in trying to kill her own people when they refuse to follow her any longer.

Just to be clear, she's also fully aware that dragons are sapient—her proclamations that they're nothing but mindless beasts are explicitly called out as some of the many lies she's told her people.

Heinous enough?

Imperium shares the niche of killing dragons with the Iron Baron, a backwater warlord with a single tribe of barbarians at his disposal, but he was confined to a single universe, and only bothered to hunt dragons when the need came up—still enough to be properly heinous and cruelly enough to remain unsympathetic, but it's nowhere close to Imperium's scale. Beatrix has the entirety of the merged multiverse at her fingertips, and she intends to capture every single dragon from these new worlds and torture them to death to fuel her reign. Much wider range, and a much worse method of mass murder.

Even when she abandons the "capture all dragons" plan? It's to instead create a superweapon that rips apart pieces of reality, using materials that otherwise could have been used to prevent catastrophic disasters from occurring elsewhere in the realms. To be fair, Beatrix doesn't seem to believe that her exploitation of the dragon cores will destroy all of existence(even though that's very clearly what's going on). But that doesn't change the fact that she uses it to tear apart her own kingdom in a petty tantrum.

To recap everyone else from the main canon:

  • The Overlord and the Omega: Omnicidal Maniacs, but god-like beings far and above everyone else.
  • The Iron Baron: Covered him above; lack of resources while still having a massive body count lets him keep even when compared to Beatrix.
  • Vex: Random guy who befriends an amnesiac demigod and manipulates him to take over a kingdom, while causing an eternal winter and crushing dissidents in a 6 decade reign—notably trying to freeze one tribe to death.
  • Vangelis: Has a magic skull that allows him to command an undead horde, which he uses to enslave and nearly massacre two large tribes, all while building an army for the Overlord's destructive conquest.
  • Hazza D'ur: Magic skull that can't do anything on its own, but empowers Vangelis' massacres.
  • Kalmaar: King of Atlantis who gains control of a storm god to drown the surface world.

Beatrix has plans for unending torture for all dragons and creates a superweapon to annihilate chunks of reality in her conquest of the realms, which she then turns on her own kingdom. She stands out almost obnoxiously easy.

miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#28563: Oct 25th 2023 at 9:50:33 PM

[tup]empress Beatrix and The devil

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
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Powermaster201 The Emperor of Evil! Since: Apr, 2019 Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
The Emperor of Evil!
#28565: Oct 25th 2023 at 11:02:09 PM

[tup] to Empress Beatrix and Devil.

TheGrayFox ....Phenomenal from A Lovecraftian fishing village Since: Sep, 2011
....Phenomenal
#28566: Oct 26th 2023 at 1:28:51 AM

[tup] for the Devil (you know, from the bible?) and Beatrix.

There remains a foothold out of this mire — now climb.
EmperorGeode Not the Eye from A Galaxy far, far away Since: Oct, 2022 Relationship Status: On the prowl
Not the Eye
AwarenessBringer Fanfiction proponent from United States of America Since: Sep, 2017 Relationship Status: Singularity
Fanfiction proponent
#28568: Oct 26th 2023 at 3:11:26 AM

[tup] Empress Beatrix.

I also write fanfiction.
RobertTYL Since: Oct, 2019 Relationship Status: Holding out for a hero
#28569: Oct 26th 2023 at 3:44:09 AM

[tup] Devil, Beatrix, and oh hey another devil archetype.


Shade: Wrath of Angels, a 2000s Hack and Slash / RPG hybrid made for Windows.

You're an unnamed soldier traveling to Europe, eager to meet your younger brother who's part of an archeologist team excavating an ancient Christian tomb. But once you get off the train you realize the rural Italian town your brother's supposedly at is Unexpectedly Abandoned - the train station, surrounding shops, the hotel where your brother's staying, etc. everything is devoid of life.

Your brother promised to meet you in Room no. 13, but the hotel's deserted too - save for a Glock 17. in your brother's room. And when night falls, suddenly zombies starts appearing in the streets...

Killing your way past zombies into the town church, you're unexpectedly approached by an angelic, ethereal feminine being materializing at the altar. One who introduces herself as the "First of the Holy Four Angels, the One that Welcomes Night"... or, the Angel of Faith. Accordingly, there was a war long ago between Angels on the side of good and bad; the ruthless Dark Angel was the strongest of the evil forces until she's sealed, until days ago, when your brother's team Dug Too Deep in the sacred ruins, unleashing the DA which places your brother, your brother's archeological team, and the whole town under a curse, making them vanish for eternity.

Now that she's free, the Dark Angel will return to rule the world...

You ask for the Angel of Faith to return your brother, but she claims she can only break the curse with assistance of a ritual requiring the souls of her three sisters, and as the AOF can't leave her quarters, she made a deal with you; you collect three souls in three different depictions of hell, deliver them to the Angel, and she retrieves your brother. As you accept, the AOF grants you a Holy Sword and imbues her servant, a Big Red Devil-thing inside you (where you can access Hulking Out into a stronger form during fights) and sends you on your quest...

After a series of levels in three vaguely European, Egyptian, and Greek-looking versions of hell (no kidding, the gameplay can last between 4 - 10 hours depending on skill), you collect the three angel souls and the AOF teleports you into her quarters, an altar containing four marble statues of the Holy Four Angels, where the ritual can begin...


Of course, we're going to discuss the Dark Angel. Which turns out to be NOT what you'd expect, but...

The "Angel Of Faith" *cough* is revealed in the final level as the Dark Angel.

Aeons ago, she used to be one of the Holy Four Angels until her thirst for power have her kickstarting a war in an attempt to take over angel-kind. After a war that lasts for several millennia, nearly destroying the whole of heaven... eventually, the three remaining Holy Angels seals themselves with the Angel of Faith in an ancient crypt, their hearts removed from their bodies and hidden in three planes of hell to prevent the AOF's return.

Your brother's excavation team had the misfortune of opening the AOF's tomb, reviving her from slumber - upon awakening, she had the whole town Dragged Off to Hell, unleashing her creations into our world, and co-erces you into becoming her Unwitting Pawn with lies that she can bring back your brother. Having conned you into collecting the hearts of the Holy Angels from hell for her to consume, allowing her to to achieve her ultimate, powerful form before she could escape her subterranean prison and into the world of mortals.

With you trapped before the AOF, she decides You Have Outlived Your Usefulness... but then, the other three ancient angels materializes from their respective statues within the same altar. Preventing the AOF from killing you outright, the AOF instead forces her demonic servant inside you to emerge, which you defeat as a Final Boss.

If you win, the game ends with the AOF banished back to hell (while cursing "It isn't over yet!"). The Three Good Angels then allows you to return, sending you back to the game's beginning where you got off a train - and sees your brother waiting for you in a crowded station.

Mitigaing Factors

Uhm, none. Just your average Treacherous Quest Giver who wants to Take Over the World, and the ultimate embodiment of evil who nearly destroyed heaven several millennia ago. And wants to have a second stab at it by manipulating you as her sucker.

Heinousness Standard?

Not worth a discussion here - you spend the whole game fighting mindless skeletons, zombies, giant insects, demons of various sizes throughout hell... but the AOF is the only one of them with any form of sentience.

Should we keep the Angel of Faith then?

This candidate is already banished to hell, but let her stay.

Edited by RobertTYL on Oct 26th 2023 at 7:07:30 PM

Mr-ex777 Since: Apr, 2019 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#28570: Oct 26th 2023 at 4:03:44 AM

[tup] Angel of Faith

For a second I thought this was something in the Former CMs list [lol].

Edited by Mr-ex777 on Oct 26th 2023 at 7:03:56 PM

EmperorGeode Not the Eye from A Galaxy far, far away Since: Oct, 2022 Relationship Status: On the prowl
Not the Eye
miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#28572: Oct 26th 2023 at 5:24:25 AM

[tup]angel of faith.

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
ACW Unofficial Wiki Curator for Complete Monster from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
Michealthehero21 Since: Jan, 2019 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
therealjackieboy Ultimate Moral Compass from Austin, TX Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Ultimate Moral Compass
#28575: Oct 26th 2023 at 8:14:34 AM

[tup] Beatrix and AOF

"No running in the halls!"

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