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- If that's what it is, I'm fine enough with the title... I guess we can expect people to know what "POV" is...? ... Because we usually don't initalize page names?
But if we need to, I think "Sight" is an adequate replacement?
Edited by Malady on Sep 4th 2020 at 10:14:17 AM
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We have several tropes with POV
in the name. That said, I have no issue with the name Unfamiliar Ceiling. The complaint was with the overlapping description rather than the title.
Edited by eroock on Sep 4th 2020 at 3:15:00 AM
I don't mind keeping them separate with that definition provided there's enough existing usage of the awakening POV.
Pretty sure there's plenty of usage of the first person perspective to introduce this situation, and that is what I initially figured Unfamiliar Ceiling was intended to be the first time I came across these duplicates.
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Crowner proposal:
- Vote UP to say "remove examples from YouWakeUpInARoom that are not a way to start an Ontological Mystery story", vote DOWN to say "merge into WakingUpElsewhere".
- Vote UP to say "remove examples from UnfamiliarCeiling that are not first-person perspective shots from someone recovering from an injury after being moved", vote DOWN to say "merge into WakingUpElsewhere".
- Vote UP to rename UnfamiliarCeiling, vote DOWN to keep as name/redirect.
- Vote UP to rename WakingUpElsewhere, vote DOWN to keep as name/redirect.
- Vote UP to rename YouWakeUpInARoom, vote DOWN to keep as name/redirect.
I'd like to see usage. I don't want this to be a Suddenly Sexuality-like "oops we didn't have enough examples to do this change after all".
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Reasonable request
- Robin Series: Tim Drake wakes up after having nearly drowned and watches as the concerned people over him slowly come into focus, before realizing he's in the cave of the monster that grabbed him along with its other victims.
- In Between Minds, a Half-Life X Portal fanfiction, the first chapter begins with Chell waking up to see the ceiling panels in the Extended Relaxation Center. She soon figures out how to escape.
- Doing It Right This Time can't resist lampshading this one either:
Shinji stared up at the ceiling. It was as far from unfamiliar as a ceiling could possibly be, which would have been vaguely reassuring if it hadn't been the ceiling he had last seen shortly before getting That Letter and starting down the slow but inexorable path to... Well, whatever the hell had happened.
- Good Omens:
- Newt wakes up after a car crash and realizes he can't be in his own room because there are no model planes hanging from the ceiling.
- Happens to Shadwell, who wakes up and thinks he's having an out-of-body experience because he sees his own body from above. After a few panicked seconds of trying to swim back to it, he comes to his senses enough to wonder why Madame Tracy has a mirror on her ceiling.
^ The Red Robin example would also be from the first person perspective if rewritten for more context/clarity as the scene starts with Tim's blinding view of the surgical lights overhead in the Batcave as he wakes up.
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Clock is ticking. Crowner?
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Maintenance?
[1]. I used crazysamaritan's options, except that the redefine and merge options were split for clarity.
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Hooked. Shutting off clock.
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Posting current standings;
- Has 13.00 : 1 ratio (14 total votes) almost certain that we will take this action
- Has 2.00 : 1 ration (12 total votes)
- Has 1.80 : 1 ratio (14 total votes)
- Has 1.50 : 1 ratio (10 total votes)
All other options in the red, status of the top option is clear but the next three options are easily shifted one way or another. Waiting to observe stability. Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
First Person POV already has mystery in it, I don't think the fusion with a recovery shot brings anything of note.
I think the core is "Someone's been hurt, someone's been moved".
But that might just be due to that being the only expected circumstance.
If you're being persued, being KO-d is expected to be captured, not healed...
Edited by Malady on Nov 17th 2020 at 8:33:00 AM
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Hmm. Should I post an announcement in ATT?
Wow, I'm getting to be the unofficial TRS herald.
Maintenance?
Okay, which can work until Trope Report gets its next issue.
I wonder what relation these have with Hospital Surprise...
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Calling in favor of redefining You Wake Up in a Room and merging Unfamiliar Ceiling with Waking Up Elsewhere.
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As of this post, Unfamiliar Ceiling has 119 wicks. I guess we move all the examples to Waking Up Elsewhere, checking if they fit, then turning Unfamiliar Ceiling into a redirect.
Does You Wake Up in a Room need any description changes? Current:
A specific type of Ontological Mystery (which covers this trope in passing). There is also a sub-genre of gaming, the Room Escape Game, that virtually always starts with this trope.
A character wakes up in a setting that's unfamiliar to them. They don't know how they got there, who brought them, or for what reason. Frequently, getting out is not so simple as simply walking out the door.
Sometimes the character, or characters, will have no memory of prior events whatsoever, although this is not a necessary component. In more extreme examples, the character may not exactly know even who they are.
If the piece begins In Medias Res and the character wakes up in a room, and the audience has no idea where they are or what has gone before (or the character has only limited knowledge, possibly having been drunk the night before, or something bad happened to him, or he's in an alternate reality that only the audience seems to pick up on) that may be sufficient to meet this trope. If a character was seen in action and then passes out only to wake up safe but in an unfamiliar place, that's Waking Up Elsewhere. Compare Good Morning, Crono and Waking Up at the Morgue. For extra points, may overlap with White Void Room.
Edited by Malady on Nov 20th 2020 at 6:09:54 AM
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While I can't say I agree with this decision, it's not that big a deal. I know the Laconic and Quotes pages were cut, unfortunately before I could archive them or their histories, but are we going to incorporate them into the merge?
Edited by ImperialMajestyXO on Nov 20th 2020 at 8:03:15 AM
Laconic Web Archive. Didn't change for 3 years in the past, no reason it'd be changed in the years since them?
And Quotes seems to have been merged with Quotes.Waking Up Elsewhere, at least 2 years ago...
Due to my old Ambig Name thread for this. ![[lol]](https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/lol2v12_4863.png "[lol]"){kind=small}
Edited by Malady on Nov 20th 2020 at 12:04:26 PM
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I think You Wake Up in a Room looks fine, and I'm starting the merger for UC and WUE.
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On-page wicks merged. I also fixed/checked the wicks from Literature articles to Unfamiliar Ceiling. There's about 100 left to clean.
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Doing some wick cleaning. Most of the wicks I've seen don't include the POV, but I think that's yardable, so I'll list examples of that here as I find them. (Also: note that we do have Eye Cam...)
- Who Took the Super out of Superman?: Clark Kent gets struck by a speeding car while his powers are blocked off, and loses consciousness. When he wakes up he's lying on a hospital bed, and two doctors are hovering over him. As his blurry vision is clearing, Clark asks: "What's going on here...? Who are you... Where am I—?"
- Kiss the Girls: Casanova played with it. When Kate wakes up after her kidnapping, she looks up to see her dreamcatcher hanging from the ceiling, but on further glance, the ceiling turns out not to be her home's.
- Logan: After collapsing by the car Logan awakes to see toys hanging overhead and a doctor speaking.
- Oblivion (2013): Julia's POV shot when she wakes up at the cottage after passing out from her gutshot.
- Roman Holiday: The first thing Ann noticed when she wakes up at Joe's apartment is the boiler installation on the ceiling which she takes for part of a dream until she sees Joe and it dawns on her that this is real. Example of something that isn't Waking Up Elsewhere since she fell asleep there
- The Leftovers: When Garvey Sr. wakes up after being rescued from the desert, he finds himself in a room and his POV shot lingers on a globe hanging from the ceiling.
- Webcomic.Awaken: After Piras passes out (again) the reader gets a first person perspective of a med-bay ceiling coming into focus for him before it hops to normal perspective and he starts to ask where he is, at which point he is quickly reminded of his situation by the others.
Edited by Synchronicity on Dec 22nd 2020 at 3:01:19 AM
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only 49 wicks left
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Crown Description:
There is too much overlap between Unfamiliar Ceiling, Waking Up Elsewhere, and You Wake Up In A Room. Not all options are mutually exclusive, but some are.
"Post-Recovery Ceiling POV" - I'm assuming the idea that is being split off is specifically from the view of the recovering character, not any shot establishing a character's recovery.
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