Ambiguous Name: Unfamiliar Ceiling

Unfamiliar Ceiling, while Waking Up Elsewhere calls it "where a character awakens in good hands, confused but generally safe." ... Seems to be basically a duplicate of Waking Up Elsewhere.

The name doesn't hint at being for examples of Waking Up Elsewhere, but with healing, just a Stock Phrase that accompanies Waking Up Elsewhere.

The Laconic:

The page quote is

It has 99 wicks, and out of the 66 examples on the page, most are just Waking Up Elsewhere, without any Healing:

That's ~20 examples that don't fit? ... Although, that means I think that more than two-thirds of the examples do fit... So, it might actually be fine...

Its YKTTW had no hats...

edited 19th Apr '17 9:30:33 AM by Malady

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Opening.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman

How about renaming to Waking Up Healed, and Unfamiliar Ceiling is a redirect to Waking Up Elsewhere, or just cut?

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I could live with a merge. We are losing the difference of gentle versus hostile unknown environment though. I would like to see some of the details form Unfamiliar Ceiling made part of Waking Up Elsewhere, like the bullet points of standard reactions of the character waking up.

Btw, Princess Mononoke is a proper example, the write-up was just terrible. Fixed on Unfamiliar Ceiling.

Bump? ... We'd need a good rename option, for a crowner, though?

edited 19th Apr '17 9:33:49 AM by Malady

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Is that difference really a trope? When they wake up, they don't know if the environment is hostile or not, because it is unknown. We need further context to inform us if the character is safe or in danger. That moment of confusion and unfamiliarity seems the same regardless of the character's safety.

Link to TRS threads in project mode here.

Unfamiliar Ceiling seems to be... too focused on the "ceiling" part.

I support a merge btw.

We don't need justice when we can forgive. We don't need tolerance when we can love.

Just merge.

If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?

^^^ From my experience scenes in a safe environment are more likely to start from the character's POV looking up (Eye Cam, blur fades, faces appear etc.) while in less safe places the scene often start with a shot onto the character (Eye Awaken, Catapult Nightmare etc.) to cash in on their facial expressions.

edited 22nd Jul '17 2:43:08 AM by eroock

But even that's not hard-and-fast; I can think of examples that are opposite.

Link to TRS threads in project mode here.

I think that the nature of the environments themselves may not be enough to warrant keeping the two separate but perhaps Unfamiliar Ceiling could be kept to specifically refer to when the character is shown waking from a first person perspective?

So, fuse Waking Up Elsewhere and Unfamiliar Ceiling under the former?

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Guess so.

Clock expired with basically no progress; closing.

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