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More or less, yeah. All There Is To Know About The Crying Game is rare, but it happens enough that it's entirely a thing worth at least having a name for. Note that the twist in question doesn't have to be about the ending; "Scanners" is a fairly good example: If you know about it, all you probably know is that it's about psychics who somehow cause people's heads to explode, and you're highly unlikely to know anything else about the movie.

I previously asked in the "Is This an Example" thread about an example of ATITKATCG that didn't involve a plot twist, and they said it was misuse.

Another thing that could be All There Is To Know About The Crying Game: Sonic the Hedgehog (2006): Besides the fact the game is an Obvious Beta, what do people know about the story? Sonic dies and is kissed by a human princess. How does he die? They don't know. What's the princess's name? They don't know. What happens before? Eh... there's a trainwreck of running around, talking to humans in between Loads and Loads of Loading, Silver's boss fight, princess gets kidnapped... might not be All There Is To Know About The Crying Game, but that's the first thing lots of gamers think about when they think about that game's story.

Edited by ccorb on Oct 19th 2020 at 8:57:25 AM

Rock'n'roll never dies!

Hmmm. Do we already have a YMMV item for "the only thing people know (not necessarily plot twist)"? If not, redefining this one to include such things might be a good plan.

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JustForFun.Everybody Knows That?

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So All There Is To Know About The Crying Game needs TRS?

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Probably. Most of the stuff covered by it is ending stuff, but "the twist is the only thing anybody remembers" is very much a thing.

Shapeshifting is Overdosed, should it have an Examples page?

'Else I suppose I put this as Implied Discussed Voluntary Shapeshifting?

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Why Don't You Just Shoot Him? has no on-page examples, but no tag.

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Here's some background on why it has no on-page examples: [1]. It has over 2800 wicks, however, so I'd go with No On-Page Examples unless the wicks need to be cleaned up.

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Well, it's already preferred to wick a subtrope when possible instead of a broader supertrope. So I guess just officially adding it to NOPE would be all that's necessary, since having no on-page examples was already decided back in 2011.

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Okay. I'll do that.

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Critical Existence Failure has a warning that specifically disallows straight examples, but is not indexed on No Straight Examples, Please!.

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The warning attributes this restriction to being a Universal Trope, which doesn't make sense when you check what Universal Tropes are. Obviously they were thinking of Omnipresent Tropes, but given that nobody fixed that in the older-than-edit-history amount of time the erroneous warning's been there, and the example list clearly does contain straight examples, I'm inclined to believe that it's a rule nobody has been following.

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I'd rather just remove the warning, too.

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Scare Quotes lacks examples for no clear reason.

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Raid Air Quotes?

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Hollywood Drowning instructs people not to list straight examples and there are no straight on-page examples, but it is not indexed on No Straight Examples, Please!.

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- Scare Quotes are a type of Painting the Medium used to textually apply Air Quotes, usually? So yeah, examples should be fine.

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Difficulty Levels... Calls itself Omnipresent, but is it really?

Edited by Malady on Jan 3rd 2021 at 9:17:41 AM

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I'd say no. There've been lots of games without difficulty levels and some genres in which you usually wouldn't see them (Adventure Games, Idle Games).

Edited by Piterpicher on Jan 3rd 2021 at 6:13:37 PM

Currently mostly inactive. An incremental game I tested: https://galaxy.click/play/176 (Gods of Incremental)

- Alright. I'm removing that whenever I feel like adding an example in.

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Any reason for Referenced by... Sub-pages to not have individual examples beyond ReferencedBy.Video Games?

See ReferencedBy.Literature, for example.

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I'm still awaiting comments about the "No Straight Examples, Please!" warning on Hollywood Drowning.

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Well, given that there's only 76 wicks, I'd be willing to allow straights unless proven otherwise.

There's too few of them to say subversions / aversions are notable? Unless the number is way off and we need more crosswicking?

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Con Man has 2K+ wicks. No example section. Issue?

Note to Self add this:

Edited by Malady on Jan 27th 2021 at 2:23:30 AM

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I think it was mostly just the work that went into the initial pages. If you can grab a few individual examples for each subpage so that later tropers are encouraged to crosswick without needing to make pages for singular examples, I'd be happy. I know I've been reluctant at times.

Without having done any research on when that warning was added, I'll toss in a hat for consensus on removing it. As ~Malady said, "There's too few of them to say subversions / aversions are notable".

I think that's intended as an index. As an index there's no problem. How many of those wicks are entered as tropes? If there's more than... 200 (10% of wicks), then it would seem to be a TRS problem; defining the page as an index or a supertrope.

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Rule of Animation Conservation calls itself a subtrope of The Law of Conservation of Detail. Has 22 wicks, and no example section.

But, it was made 10 years ago, with only 7 edits.

I have a good example for it... Anyone against me starting the example section?

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13543987200A54420100&page=603#comment-15058

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Sounds great!

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