We don't want to clog this thread since Surprisingly Realistic Outcome is an Overdosed Trope. Before posting here, check if the example you're analyzing qualifies for summary deletion from the three criteria below by keeping this trope's rigorous definition in mind.
- Does the example involve Applied Phlebotinum (Functional Magic, Science Fiction, Artistic Licence) or a character reaction? If so, it instantly violates the definition's second bullet point's realism requirements, and you should delete it without question.
- Is the example a Discussed Trope or an instance of Conversational Troping? If so, it violates the definition's third bullet point's emphasis on only counting outcomes, and you should delete it without question.
- Considering the definitions, would the example qualify better for Deconstructed Trope or Deconstructed Character Archetype from the trope page's rules? If so, move it to the appropriate one on the spot.
If the example survived all three tests, it satisfies the second and third bullet points, so you don't need to change it immediately. If you feel like it meets the first bullet point's requirements for being surprising, you can leave it. However, if you believe it doesn't meet the first bullet point or aren't sure, talk it over in the cleanup thread before deciding.
Many Stock Phrases you'll see used in this thread describe a particular type of misuse:
- Not surprising. — The outcome described isn't a Bait-and-Switch and merely follows expected genre conventions.
- Plot happens. — The example merely describes an event or series of events but not why we would expect something different.
- Too fantastical. — The causes/outcome described included the presence of stuff Impossible in Real Life such as Applied Phlebotinum, Functional Magic, or Science Fiction, meaning they're too unrealistic by default.
- No character reactions. — The outcome involves a character reacting in a certain way or having certain emotions, which we can't gauge the realism of because people's emotional reactions vary far too much.
- Not realistic. — Exactly What It Says on the Tin, but this one requires you to write a short description for why it isn't realistic.
- Too implausible. — The outcome describes an outcome that happened because of things too unlikely to count as relatively realistic compared to what they were subverting.
- Cuttable ZCE. — Exactly What It Says on the Tin.
- Not an outcome. — The example is either a Discussed Trope, Lampshade Hanging, Conversational Troping, or happens over too much time to be momentary.
- Too unclear. — The example is too convoluted or obtuse to judge.
- Irrelevant. — The example describes stuff utterly irrelevant to the definition of SRO.
- Bad indentation. — Exactly What It Says on the Tin.
A big thing I've noticed is that it's often used for anything remotely realistic, or something that's realistic but doesn't necessarily affect the story. Another problem is that the trope seems to be cherry-picked, where any instance of reality ensuing is put there, as well as when another trope could serve the example better.
Problematic examples from one sample page, SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome.Disney Animated Series:
"Despite his attempts Wander can't make friends with Dominator who constantly rebuffs his friendly gestures throughout season 2. Even at the end of everything, she still refuses. Sylvia even lampshades it, telling him some people are just like that."
"Spider-Man's fight against Sandman and Rhino, where Spidey uses Rhino's weight against him. rather than fighting him directly."
"Beshte gets sunburns all over his body and is easily exhausted while he is lost in the Outlands. Justified due to the fact that hippos need water to survive to avoid sunburn and overheating."
"It's heavily implied that being the leader of the Lion Guard has taken a toll on Kion's social and private life."
"Milo Murphy's Law is about a boy named Milo Murphy whose entire life is centered around Murphy's Law. In another cartoon, being The Jinx would cause people to be afraid of them, resulting in an unsocial lifestyle. That does not apply here. While everyone does watch their step around Milo, they do not hate him for it. Being The Jinx does, however, give everyone Paranoia Fuel, given that Murphy's Law can happen at any time, so chances are you might need insurance, a phone in case of emergencies, among other things. Milo himself (as well as his friends Melissa and Zack) just learned to adapt to his condition, being prepared for anything. He has lived with Murphy's Law his entire life after all. That being said, that does not mean that they don't panic all the time. Examples include Milo panicking over his monthly doctor's note, and Melissa panicking over riding a rollercoaster with Milo."
" Hiro is initially not allowed to use Tadashi's former lab, as it can only be accessed by upperclassmen who earned the privilege. Subverted in the second half of the pilot when Professor Granville decides Hiro using the lab would benefit him. On a related note regarding Granville, she is tough, but fair when interacting with the students. She might be, as Wasabi describes "a hard case", but Granville being a complete sadist and picking on Hiro would be unrealistic. She is actually a decent person."
-Edited with permission from the OP-
Edited by lalalei2001 on Aug 10th 2022 at 5:47:25 AM
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I'm lost on where the "surprise" is and what the unsurprisingly unrealistic outcome would've been, so I agree on removing it.
Any input on mine?
Phew, you've covered a lot. Your comments look fine to me. The Third Circuit Court one - not sure how realistic that is. There might be a better trope about applying the law to defeat a villain.
Reposting from over the page:
Are these examples of SRO?
Null: When Yang gets stabbed in the hand, she finds she cannot use it anymore. In other stories, she would be able to power through the injury, but here the tendons have been cut, rendering her hand literally useless. There may be a "surprising" issue with this entry, given how dark it is anyway, plus Yang permanently loses her entire arm in canon, so alternative ways of serious hand/arm injury in fanfic isn't really surprising for her specifically. It's rather common in fanfic for this show. Elsewhere on the fanfic page, entries indicate that the fight involved Semblances... the character who destroys her hand goes all out and has a nullification power that disables everyone else's abilities, and Yang especially struggles to fight without her power. So, this might be too fantastical. However, I'm going by other entries on the fanfic page, rather than my own knowledge. So, if anyone's familiar with the fanfic, perhaps they could comment?
Fixing RWBY: Raven uses Weiss' weapon as a spit for a turkey she's cooking. When Weiss takes it back, she tries to look tough by taking a bite of the turkey... and promptly burns her mouth because it's still hot. This occurs as one among a litany of incidents designed to humiliate Weiss, so it doesn't fit the surprising criteria. The situation between Weiss and the bandits also continues on in other episodes, so there's no outcome here, either. Unlike the other entry, I am familiar with this fanfic.
Red vs. Blue: Washington is an established Made of Iron Determinator, continuously bouncing back from injuries that would leave anyone else a blubbering shell of a person. Indeed, he seems to start recovering from being shot in the throat at the end of Season 15. However, Season 16 reveals severe brain damage due to his brain losing oxygen for one minute, leaving him as a Mood-Swinger with short-term amnesia. At the end of Season 15, the framing is that Wash is recovering, as the entry says. So, that's the "outcome". When Season 16 started airing, it was revealed that Wash actually suffered severe brain damage... but this is the trigger for the plot. So, it's not an outcome, it's a plot trigger.
If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.
Someone created a page for One Thousand Ways To Die, even though that show is based on real events, so it violates the NRLEP rule.
They all don't seem valid to me.
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Based on a True Story stuff (which that is, according to its description) can still have NRLEP tropes.
I'm not sure if SRO specifically does apply for 1000 ways to die, though.
Edited by JDMA12 on Sep 14th 2023 at 7:41:41 AM
Even if NRLEP doesn't apply to the page, none of the 1000 Ways to Die examples are really surprising, since all of them are just "person does a thing, and then dies", which is the show's advertised premise, so things going wrong is the expected outcome.
Edited by Someoneman on Sep 14th 2023 at 4:01:16 AM
- Brace Face: In "Miami Vices" Sharon, sick of her mother's rules, decides to spend a few days with her dad in Miami, who is much more laid back and permissive. However, when Sharon gets drunk at a party and makes a fool of herself, he isn't happy and gives her a lecture about how she could have been taken advantage of in her state. Just because a parent is permissive doesn't mean they're going to be okay with their child doing something absolutely reckless like getting drunk at 13. Character reaction. And the main character being called out by their parent for doing something dangerous is normal for this kind of show.
- Happens surprisingly often in Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends, even as entire episode premises:
- In "The Big Lablooksi", Mac decides to take bowling lessons from Bowling Paul, a self-proclaimed "bowling-guru". But Paul gives him advice that is far too abstract and metaphorical, and doesn’t focus on basics such as stance, dexterity, and concentration. As a result, Mac throws his ball way off course on his first attempt after taking these lessons, and only manages to get a strike and win through dumb luck. Plot happens
- In "Frankie My Dear", Bloo, Mac, and Chris dressed up as Orlando Bloo in a Totem Pole Trench to sabotage Frankie's date and stop Dylan from having Frankie to himself. The entire episode strives to deconstruct this trope hilariously by showing how difficult pulling off a Totem Pole Trench would really be. Orlando Bloo nearly falls over several times since three of them are piggy-backing, it's nearly impossible for Orlando to eat because Mac is the arms and the trenchcoat obstructs his vision, resulting in him flailing looking for a fork and even then results in him trying to pick up steak with a spoon. When he finally grabs the fork, Mac's arms are too short to reach Bloo's mouth forcing him to chew an entire steak. Frankie kicks the legs (Chris) over and over, but since Bloo isn't aware of this, he keeps talking casually rather than react how a person would. Maybe valid? Totem Pole Trench is a common trope even though it's not realistic.
- In "The Sweet Stench of Success", Kip Skip admits on live television that his deodorant brand is designed to make people smell worse instead of better, he's arrested for false advertising. Plot happens
- In "Setting a President", Mr. Herriman has trouble working as a grocery store cashier after losing his job as house president. Many administrators often find themselves struggling with ground level or menial jobs. Of course, Fridge Logic comes in given that he looked for every job BUT an administrator, which he was quite skilled at. Plot happens
- In "Emancipation Complication", Little Lincoln turned out to be a scam artist in a The Farmer and the Viper type of plot, selling the imaginary friends to be used as mascots and planning on turning the home into a casino. The only reason he was stopped is Madame Foster tricked the bodyguard (who always got Little Lincoln back off of whoever captured him) and instead of signing it over, chewed on the pen-based imaginary friend to get him to cooperate in confessing his crimes and getting the friends back one by one. Plot happens
- In the Hailey's On It! episode "the Puffle Kerfluffle" Hailey sets out to reunite the titular duo, a pair of best friend children entertainers who were her and Scott's favorite show as kids. note Despite her best efforts, they seem unwilling to make up, so she and Scott are forced to do the reunion show themselves, which results in the Puffles deciding to reunite to save the show. Afterward, Hailey asks if they will be back together, but the male half tells her no. Yes, they mended their friendship, but they've been apart for a long time and have their own interests now, they're not going to throw all that aside just cause they reunited for one show. Character reaction
These were added to the Marvel comic section.
- The Ultimates:
- That same issue takes a look at what happens when a group of superheroes that doesn't have any powers, cool tech or funding tries their hand at fighting crime. Most of the team spends the whole night wandering around the wrong area working off a vague tip, while the Batman Parody fails to stop the thugs robbing a warehouse and is consequently beaten within an inch of his life and hospitalized.
- In the first Ultimates storyline, the Hulk goes on a rampage through New York causing massive damage and casualties. In the next storyline, when his identity as Bruce Banner is eventually leaked to the press, he's immediately put on trial. When Bruce gets the news of the verdict, it's revealed that he was found guilty and sentenced to death for the murder of 800 civilians.
These sound like Deconstructions rather than Outcomes.
Bojack Horseman S 3 E 11 That's Too Much, Man!
The car Sarah Lynn and BoJack use on their road trip bender is shown to get more and more damaged the further into the bender they go. Both BoJack and Sarah Lynn have been shown to be terrible drivers, Sarah Lynn even painted her nails while driving when she was sober, let alone on enough drugs to give BoJack black outs! It’s a miracle none of those accidents wound up being fatal. Is this really that surprising? Even the least realistic of cartoons I remember still showed damage to cars, oftentimes causing them to explode sooner than that. And as it says, more realistically BoJack and Sarah Lynn should have died there.
BoJack believes he mentally scarred Penny after what happened in Escape From LA and decides to visit Penny at her college, so he can apologize to her. As soon as she sees him, the same man she almost made a huge mistake with just showing up at her college, she is in shock, reliving her trauma, and demands he leave before he can even say anything. Sarah Lynn brutally lays out the implications in the next scene, emphasizing that BoJack's visit very likely ruined whatever hard work Penny did putting Escape From LA behind her. Character Reaction. And even if Sarah Lynn did talk about it, this is the first time we've seen Penny since "Escape from LA", so we don't really know that anyway, nor would Sarah Lynn, whom I'm pretty sure never actually knew Penny. It strikes me more as Fridge Horror.
After two seasons of her junkie lifestyle being treated as a joke, Sarah Lynn's body finally gives out from years of drug abuse, especially after making progress on becoming sober. Maybe this one is valid.
Edited by Bonkfast on Sep 18th 2023 at 10:54:03 AM
Cut them all.
"Drug addict O Ds" is not a surprising outcome. It's not like the show established that Sarah had some special immunity to drugs. That's the thing about hardcore drugs, even people who have used them many times are still at risk of a fatal overdose.
Yeah, I was about to say that. Sarah Lynn's addiction being treated as a joke before and now resulting in her non-comedic death (which ends up causing more dramatic events later on too) probably is more of a Cerebrus Retcon anyway.
Edited by Bonkfast on Sep 18th 2023 at 10:54:57 AM
- Surprisingly Realistic Outcome:
- Jimmy is a hyperactive, excitable newbie photographer who isn't even an official photographer yet, just an intern. Despite being present at Clark/Superman's fight against the robots at the dockside and taking photos of the battle start to finish, Jimmy's inexperience and all the excitement caused the photos to come out blurred and indistinct. At best, Jimmy's photos just showed the robots falling over against an unclear blur. Much to Lois and Jimmy's surprise (and Clark's relief), Perry White isn't impressed, and the story about Superman doesn't get published. Of course, this does take a unique spin once it's revealed that Jimmy knew that Clark was Superman all along, and thus the blurriness is probably also to ensure his friend's identity isn't spoiled. "Excitement" makes this a character reaction, since taking non-blurry photos isn't unrealistic on its own.
- Clark can speak English because he was raised on Earth all his life. The same is not true of Kryptonians, as Jor-El's messages to him are all in his "native" language, with it being implied that Jor-El wasn't able to research the native tongue before sending Clark to Earth. Without some means of translating their language or a common dialect, Clark cannot magically learn what Kryptonian means despite his heritage. Alien language barriers aren't issues in real life.
- Clark lampshades how ineffective a disguise it would be to simply change his clothing, posture, demeanor and go around without glasses as a means of avoiding detection, and it's later revealed that those who know him both as Clark Kent and Superman swiftly see through his Secret Identity. Jimmy realized years ago thanks to Clark's frequent bouts of Power Incontinence, and it only takes Lois a few days to realize the same. The main reason Clark's not been discovered is simply because his civilian identity of Clark Kent is under everybody's radar, and nobody even realizes he has a civilian life. Clark's encounter with the General/Sam Lane in their civilian identities at a Thanksgiving dinner has him noting how familiar Clark seems from only a few minutes of conversation, despite having only met with Superman prior. The longer they spend together, the more Sam starts to identify what's bothering him about Clark, starting to question him if he's always wearing his glasses before the episode's events interrupt him, again showing how ineffective Clark's attempts to hide in plain sight are, as opposed to his normal identity just staying unnoticed. Most of this example sounds like a straight example of Deducing the Secret Identity (that trope has finally launched), and the lampshading before it happens might push this out of surprising territory.
- One of the major themes behind Superman's character is that he uses his immense abilities to perform good deeds simply because he can and demands nothing in return. Whilst this Clark is just as incredibly altruistic as the Silver Age versions, the modern-day world has far too cynical a mindset to take this at face value, refusing to believe Superman is a hero because he's just that much of a Nice Guy, and numerous characters from Task Force X to villains like Dr. Ivo to even Lois herself at first believe that he must have an "angle" or hidden agenda he's working on, and becoming more distrustful of him the more he protests that he's exactly what he appears to be on the surface. Character reaction
- Clark has a whole slew of varied abilities from his Kryptonian heritage, but being The Needless is not one of them. Whilst his mental and physical limits are greater than a normal human's, he still has them, and going for a long period of exertion without proper rest starts to impair his performance. Once his Super-Hearing is developed, Clark ends up overindulging in his Chronic Hero Syndrome now he can literally hear the call for help everywhere, going non-stop for several days and keeping himself going with an unhealthy amount of stimulants, resulting in him accidentally causing a traffic accident and contributing to his loss against and capture by the weaker Task Force X. Superhumans lacking specific powers isn't realism.
Yeah, cut all those.
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I'm bringing the following examples from the first two TMNT films (which are split into folders) to this thread.
- Surprisingly Realistic Outcome:
- When the Foot Clan raid the building, the Turtles find themselves on the backfoot (no pun intended) very quickly. Sure they're trained ninjas. But the Foot Clan turn out to be more numerous than they realize, not to mention they're down a member (Raph in this version who was ambushed and lost his Sai in the process) and fighting in enclosed spaces. While they take out a few of them, they soon start tiring and taking hits. They're only saved when Casey shows up to lend some aid and April getting them out through a secret passage and a fire starting that forces all parties to flee.
- When a squad of Foot Clan ninjas show up to intimidate her, April gets the bright idea to try and fight them. Since she's not a trained ninja, this goes as well as you'd expect.
- In the final confrontation with Shredder, the Turtles try to take him on but are no match. Foot Clan members are one thing, but he's a trained warrior with much more experience on them. Likewise when he has Leo at his mercy, the others are forced to discard their weapons to save him... only for Shredder to go back on his word to spare him, only stopping when Splinter calls him out.
- Conversely, while Shredder is winning against the turtles, it's because he stepped in after his ninja were beaten and fights defensively using minimal movements and turning the Turtles' aggression against them, making him the freshest and most conservative fighter. But as the fight drags on, this approach starts to fail him; he is fighting four skilled opponents half his age, as Leonardo draws first blood, something that we never saw Shredder do to the Turtles. Shredder admits the Turtles might have won eventually with only the loss of one of them.
- Splinter forces Shredder over a building side who only manages to hang on through the nunchuck he grabbed. While Splinter monologues about avenging his master, Shredder tries to sneak attack him with a knife. He misses and ends up falling into a garbage truck.
- Surprisingly Realistic Outcome:
- At the beginning of the movie, Keno spots a robbery in a marketplace while delivering pizza and jumps in to stop it. However he didn't take into account there were a lot more robbers than he accounted for and is visibly worried when the rest of them show up, knowing he's outnumbered. Luckily the Turtles arrive to help even things.
- While April is fine with letting the Turtles and Splinter stay with them in her apartment, the latter insists they find a new dwelling as he knows sooner or later people are gonna notice more than one person living there. Which is proven when Keno comes to deliver some pizza and notes some belongings of April that she certainty wouldn't use.
- The reason they're staying with April in the first place is due to the fact their old home's location was discovered by the Foot Clan. Turns out a secret lair loses its appeal when your enemies figure out where it is and can attack you at any time.
- Even though they're holing up in April's apartment, the Turtles and Splinter have continued their training sessions. This has not gone unnoticed, as one of April's neighbors chastises her for the excessive noises.
- Despite Raph's claims of having "kicked their butts", it turns out a small number of Foot Ninja were still loyal to Shredder, and chose to run and go into hiding rather than turn themselves in.
- This also plays into the Foot's status quo in the interim since the first film. With Shredder's presumed death, the loss of their headquarters, and the arrest of their most of their members, the Foot Clan has been effectively crippled as a criminal organization. Had Shredder not clawed his way out of that junkyard, it's doubtful Tatsu — an administrator rather than a leader — would've been able to effectively rally them or to seek vengeance against the Turtles.
- With nearly all of the old guard arrested, the Foot is also now having to recruit and rebuild their manpower completely from scratch. Nearly all of the Foot Soldiers in this film are thus greenhorns who have essentially just gone through basic training (and thus fare worse against the more-experienced Turtles compared to their predecessors in the first film). Offsetting the Foot's manpower shortage and inexperience is also another factor in Shredder seeking to create his own Mutants.
- As soon as the Foot reveal themselves, the Turtles quickly choose to leave April's apartment and redouble their hunt for a new lair, not wanting a repeat of what happened last film.
- Shredder thinks with the ooze, he can make two powerful mutants to fight for him. However, while Tokka and Rahzar mutate into bigger monsters, they turn out to have the mindset of babies. After all, as shown in the first film's backstory flashback, the Turtles took a while to develop too after they mutated, so Shredder forgot to take that into account. He does manage to make the most of it at Professor Perry's insistence. There's also the detail that Perry deliberately contaminated the ooze to make the two mutants less dangerous.
- A justified instance of Didn't Think This Through. Shredder couldn't take that into account because he doesn't possess the crucial information about the Turtles' own development (and wouldn't know). If Splinter hadn't told April the story in the first movie, she too might have assumed the Turtles mutated entirely formed and developed.
- In the climax, the Turtles make some anti-mutagen, freeze them into cubes and hide them into donuts in the hope of tricking Tokka and Rahzar into eating them. It seems to work at first, but then Rahzar starts getting suspicious of their goodwill and crushes one of the donuts, finding the cube inside. Even a child might find something's up in a given situation.
- Though the Turtles get Tokka and Rahzar to eat some of the anti-mutagen, it doesn't take effect right away and Don and Professor Perry realize they need to reintroduce Carbon Dioxide into them for it to digest properly, which they find in fire extinguishers.
- Pumped up with mutagen or no, bringing a structure down on top of you is not going to end well as Shredder found out at the end when he tried to drop a dock on the Turtles who survived by jumping into the nearby river (they're amphibious after all). Though for a moment it did look likely when Shredder's hand came out from the rubble... only to fall over lifeless.
- At the end of the movie, the Turtles try to lie to Splinter that they weren't seen, but are quickly caught out both from the news report from April Splinter just watched and a newspaper reporting of their fight in the night club.
Which ones count?
Edited by gjjones on Sep 19th 2023 at 1:51:16 PM
He/His/Him. No matter who you are, always Be Yourself.
When the Foot Clan raid the building, the Turtles find themselves on the backfoot (no pun intended) very quickly. Sure they're trained ninjas. But the Foot Clan turn out to be more numerous than they realize, not to mention they're down a member (Raph in this version who was ambushed and lost his Sai in the process) and fighting in enclosed spaces. While they take out a few of them, they soon start tiring and taking hits. They're only saved when Casey shows up to lend some aid and April getting them out through a secret passage and a fire starting that forces all parties to flee. One character stronger than the other.
When a squad of Foot Clan ninjas show up to intimidate her, April gets the bright idea to try and fight them. Since she's not a trained ninja, this goes as well as you'd expect. In the final confrontation with Shredder, the Turtles try to take him on but are no match. Foot Clan members are one thing, but he's a trained warrior with much more experience on them. Likewise when he has Leo at his mercy, the others are forced to discard their weapons to save him... only for Shredder to go back on his word to spare him, only stopping when Splinter calls him out. One character stronger than the other, and a character reaction.
Conversely, while Shredder is winning against the turtles, it's because he stepped in after his ninja were beaten and fights defensively using minimal movements and turning the Turtles' aggression against them, making him the freshest and most conservative fighter. But as the fight drags on, this approach starts to fail him; he is fighting four skilled opponents half his age, as Leonardo draws first blood, something that we never saw Shredder do to the Turtles. Shredder admits the Turtles might have won eventually with only the loss of one of them. One character stronger than the other, and character reaction.
Splinter forces Shredder over a building side who only manages to hang on through the nunchuck he grabbed. While Splinter monologues about avenging his master, Shredder tries to sneak attack him with a knife. He misses and ends up falling into a garbage truck. Characters falling off things is not surprising.
At the beginning of the movie, Keno spots a robbery in a marketplace while delivering pizza and jumps in to stop it. However he didn't take into account there were a lot more robbers than he accounted for and is visibly worried when the rest of them show up, knowing he's outnumbered. Luckily the Turtles arrive to help even things. Character reaction
While April is fine with letting the Turtles and Splinter stay with them in her apartment, the latter insists they find a new dwelling as he knows sooner or later people are gonna notice more than one person living there. Which is proven when Keno comes to deliver some pizza and notes some belongings of April that she certainty wouldn't use. Character reaction
The reason they're staying with April in the first place is due to the fact their old home's location was discovered by the Foot Clan. Turns out a secret lair loses its appeal when your enemies figure out where it is and can attack you at any time. Not surprising
Even though they're holing up in April's apartment, the Turtles and Splinter have continued their training sessions. This has not gone unnoticed, as one of April's neighbors chastises her for the excessive noises. Character reaction
Despite Raph's claims of having "kicked their butts", it turns out a small number of Foot Ninja were still loyal to Shredder, and chose to run and go into hiding rather than turn themselves in. Character reaction
This also plays into the Foot's status quo in the interim since the first film. With Shredder's presumed death, the loss of their headquarters, and the arrest of their most of their members, the Foot Clan has been effectively crippled as a criminal organization. Had Shredder not clawed his way out of that junkyard, it's doubtful Tatsu — an administrator rather than a leader — would've been able to effectively rally them or to seek vengeance against the Turtles. Character reaction
With nearly all of the old guard arrested, the Foot is also now having to recruit and rebuild their manpower completely from scratch. Nearly all of the Foot Soldiers in this film are thus greenhorns who have essentially just gone through basic training (and thus fare worse against the more-experienced Turtles compared to their predecessors in the first film). Offsetting the Foot's manpower shortage and inexperience is also another factor in Shredder seeking to create his own Mutants. Last sentence is too fantastical, for the rest I need a second opinion
As soon as the Foot reveal themselves, the Turtles quickly choose to leave April's apartment and redouble their hunt for a new lair, not wanting a repeat of what happened last film. Character reaction
Shredder thinks with the ooze, he can make two powerful mutants to fight for him. However, while Tokka and Rahzar mutate into bigger monsters, they turn out to have the mindset of babies. After all, as shown in the first film's backstory flashback, the Turtles took a while to develop too after they mutated, so Shredder forgot to take that into account. He does manage to make the most of it at Professor Perry's insistence. There's also the detail that Perry deliberately contaminated the ooze to make the two mutants less dangerous. Too fantastical
A justified instance of Didn't Think This Through. Shredder couldn't take that into account because he doesn't possess the crucial information about the Turtles' own development (and wouldn't know). If Splinter hadn't told April the story in the first movie, she too might have assumed the Turtles mutated entirely formed and developed. In the climax, the Turtles make some anti-mutagen, freeze them into cubes and hide them into donuts in the hope of tricking Tokka and Rahzar into eating them. It seems to work at first, but then Rahzar starts getting suspicious of their goodwill and crushes one of the donuts, finding the cube inside. Even a child might find something's up in a given situation. Character reaction
Though the Turtles get Tokka and Rahzar to eat some of the anti-mutagen, it doesn't take effect right away and Don and Professor Perry realize they need to reintroduce Carbon Dioxide into them for it to digest properly, which they find in fire extinguishers. Pumped up with mutagen or no, bringing a structure down on top of you is not going to end well as Shredder found out at the end when he tried to drop a dock on the Turtles who survived by jumping into the nearby river (they're amphibious after all). Though for a moment it did look likely when Shredder's hand came out from the rubble... only to fall over lifeless. Too fantastical, this mutagen stuff doesn't exist in real life
At the end of the movie, the Turtles try to lie to Splinter that they weren't seen, but are quickly caught out both from the news report from April Splinter just watched and a newspaper reporting of their fight in the night club. Character reaction
Edited by Bonkfast on Sep 20th 2023 at 8:47:41 AM
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This was on VideoGame.Pikmin 2:
- Surprisingly Realistic Outcome: Non-Yellow Pikmin immediately getting vaporized by electricity hazards. Which, while portrayed in a rather exaggerated light, is still a pretty accurate depiction of what would happen if a small creature like a Pikmin would come into contact with high-voltage electricity.
Don't Pikmin die rather easily in those games, so the outcome is hardly surprising?
Pikmin do not exist, so it's too fantastical. Remove it. Especially since it seems to be discussing the difference between the Yellow Pikmin and others, which again, do not exist.
Someone has posted all of SRO examples from the recaps in Game of Thrones, and most of it has the fantastical elements (dragons, White walkers for example). Are they valid?
Found this on Characters.Trails Series Calvard Miscellaneous which I’m unsure of.
- Surprisingly Realistic Outcome: Tausend's refusal to have the Verne Company join the West Zemuria Tech Union, breaking off developing the next generation orbment with the Epstein Foundation, refusal to help out during a major investigation of both his own company and a major incident that happens in Basel eventually results in multiple people, including Calvard's own president, beginning to realize that someone like him might not be fit to be in charge of the country's leading Orbment and technological development company. By the beginning of the next game, he has been removed for his inaction.
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