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- Make sure that the example makes sense to both people who don't know the work AND don't know the trope.
- Wrong: The Mentor: Kevin is this to Bob in the first episode.
- Right: The Mentor: Kevin takes Bob under his wing in the first episode and teaches him the ropes of being a were-chinchilla.
- Never just put the trope title and leave it at that.
- Wrong: Badass Adorable
- Right: Badass Adorable: Xavier, the group's cute little mascot, defeats three raging elephants with both hands tied behind his back using only an uncooked spaghetti noodle.
- When is normally far less important than How.
- A character name is not an explanation.
- Wrong: Full Moon Silhouette: Diana
- Right: Full Moon Silhouette: At the end of her transformation sequence into Moon Princess Misty, Diana is shown flying across the full moon riding a rutabaga.
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Edited by Synchronicity on Sep 18th 2023 at 11:42:55 AM
Not that we recall, no.
We'd say probably not. Like, a case might be made if the game was released as a whole product like in the olden days and the bug was permanent, but if it was removed that fast, no.
Trouble Cube continues to be a general-purpose forum for those who desire such a thing.Villainy-Free Villain has this example:
- In the Big City Greens episode "No Service" we have Clark the Clerk. While he seems biased towards Cricket and definitely takes glee in his struggles trying to circumvent the Sip 'n Snak rules? He is ultimately only doing his job at the end of the day. There's a very good reason many places follow the No Shirt No Shoes No Service Dress Code. And although he and Cricket gain a mutual respect for one another, Clark is ultimately right ban Cricket from the convenience store for all the damage he caused.
Is this a legitimate example? To me, it sounds a bit more like Unintentionally Sympathetic.
He/they | Mostly here on my free daysReposting again. https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13543987200A54420100&page=809#comment-20222
“What is that? It's The Unknown!”x6 Re: Promoted Fangirl.
As written it's not entirely clear what happened. Was this person a fan who drew fanart, then got "promoted" to VA? If so, it's an example, but it's hard for me to parse that as written.
x5 Re: Scrappy Mechanic:
Was the broken mechanic in any way notable prior to being patched? Cause otherwise I kind of see it as not an example.
x4 Re:Artistic License – Military:
I don't see that as an example of of AL-M, because it's not knowingly misrepresenting the military portrayed. Unless hazing was an integral part of Imperial Chinese militaries. Not an example.
Possibly Unintentionally Sympathetic, though that trope is so misused it has its own cleanup thread.
I don't think it's VFV, mostly because many works geared towards kids (and above) will have unreasonable seeming authority figures who make people wear shoes, attend class, not see R-rated movies, etc.
We don't really police Tearjerker (and other moments pages) because if someone finds it sad, it belongs. So I'm hesitant to say that a quote from Hamlet should be cut, as the show is a re-telling of the play. It might work better formatted as a quote (and properly attributed) though.
I didn't choose the troping life, the troping life chose meI once found this entry on a character page and I think it's shoehorning:
- Even the Guys Want Him: Aside from Lee Kanker, it's more of a case of only the guys want him, given the Ho Yay moments he has with Ed and Edd.
Definitely misuse.
I didn't choose the troping life, the troping life chose meThank you for your input.
Alright , I'll cut it instead since I don't know how to make quotes.
Edited by Bubblepig on May 20th 2022 at 9:10:34 AM
“What is that? It's The Unknown!”Did you check out Text-Formatting Rules as suggested earlier? It has instructions on how to do a quote properly.
Can Auto Erotica stretch the definition of "Auto" a bit? If so, I've got:
- Amelia Peabody: In "The Deeds of the Disturber" Downplayed a bit. Emerson and Amelia make out in the back of a (horse-drawn) cab on the way home from a stressful day. Amelia notes that something about cabs - she's not sure if it's the smell of the leather, the sound of the horses' hoofbeats, or the dark enclosed space - tends to inspire Emerson.
Edited by underCoverSailsman on May 20th 2022 at 11:39:49 AM
It is a little disheartening to see you read "example should not be cut just better formatted" and turn around say "okay I'm going to cut it". That's the opposite of what I said, and what was the point of bringing it here if you were just going to ignore advice and do what you wanted to do anyways.
I guess it fits, nothing on the trope description page seems to contradict it.
I didn't choose the troping life, the troping life chose meIn the Real Life folder on Otherworldly and Sexually Ambiguous:
- Tilda Swinton looks like this, and has basically made a career playing those sorts of characters.
Am I correct in thinking this isn't really an example (in addition to the lack of context as written)? Tilda Swinton does frequently play otherworldly androgynous characters, but she is not herself an angel, demon, alien, or what-have-you. Furthermore, while she does identify as queer, I've always seen her referred to as female by both herself and others.
In addition to the above, it's a partial-context example, so kill it.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"Can be linked on her creator page with more context for each role, but calling her a “real life example” ain’t it.
I've cut it from the trope page and might add it to her creator page if I can think of a better way to flesh it out.
- Middle School Is Miserable: Norman and Neil are bullied by Alvin, an eighth grader.
Does this really count? It only mentions one bully, not the school in general.
It's definitely light on context.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"this entry on YMMV.Multi Versus:
- They Changed It, Now It Sucks!: People have criticized the Iron Giant's inclusion, as the Giant's arc was learning that he could reject his original purpose to be a weapon of war, and being in a platform fighter goes against that. This wasn't the first time this has happened to a Massive Multiplayer Crossover prominently featuring the Giant, as Ready Player One faced similar criticism. Unlike in Ready Player One, however, where the Iron Giant is an avatar used by one of the users, in this game it's the real deal, and he does have a reason to be fighting — to save his world from the Nothing.
would it be better to move this under base-breaking character, given that this isn't really TCINIS? or is there a better place to put it under?
I also felt that entry was stretching too much to be proper usage. It's not really a change from anything, especially since we don't actually know how the Giant is going to be characterized in the game. Though it can't be Base-Breaking Character or a Broken Base entry either, since those require a six-month post-release wait. I'd suggest cutting the entry for now.
Base-Breaking Character has a 6 month wait time. That specific reaction might be best left to release as the game might explain it in some way.
understood, for now i'll just cut it with a link to this thread
Can this work for the character page for Lore Olympus ?
- Unexplained Recovery: After the Time Skip, we briefly see Minthe in a flashback as a nymph during the time Persephone’s exile. Presumably Persephone found a way to restore her to true form during the ten year interim, but how it happened is never shown or even hinted at.
I'm leaning no. Persephone is the one that transformed her in the first place, so we'd expect her to know how to reverse it. (Unless stated otherwise in plot, in which case that detail should be worked into the example text.)
I was looking through part of a character page and I was wondering, if a character qualifies for Jerkass at Your Discretion, does that disqualify them as a regular ol' Jerkass?
They are both jerkasses, but since Jerkass at Your Discretion is more specific, I'd stick with that one.
Edited by laserviking42 on May 20th 2022 at 9:54:54 AM
I didn't choose the troping life, the troping life chose me
Mulan.Tropes A To C has the example:
Was it actually considered hazing in the context of the story?