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Edited by Synchronicity on Sep 18th 2023 at 11:42:55 AM
Wow, the grammar is that one is so off that I have troubles parsing it; but tutoring (private teaching) of magic seems it could fit.
Spoiled Sweet question:
- From Beast:
- It seems pretty ZCE/insufficient context
- Troper who added the example (~Melinda) has tried to improve it, but I still don't see the trope in the write-up.
- Spoiled Sweet: The Manning twins are the kids of a millionaire and are going on a fairly expensive vacation, but come across as this (or at least Nice to the Waiter) towards Lucas their diving guide, are fascinated by exploring the ocean depths, and don't inspire any negative comments after their deaths at the squid's tentacles.
Feedback from others, pretty please?
Oh, sorry, I thought you were posting someone else's example. I wouldn't have snarked that much. :-) But the punctuation is making it weird.
Suggested correction:
- Ami asks her employee to teach her, and only her, magic in private sessions. So that only the two of them can do the magic.
Edited by XFllo on Jan 17th 2020 at 9:57:01 PM
- I tried to keep it low detail because it's spoilers. Yeah, the grammar could be better. Maybe.
Disambig Needed: Help with those issues! tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13324299140A37493800&page=24#comment-576I can barely understand what that example is getting at. It says nothing about their actual character. I think it can safely be pulled as example of Spoiled sweet.
Macron's notesYeah, that reads just as "rich kids that aren't evil brats".
Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure PurenessThank you both. :-)
Can I delete the Comic Book folder from Petite Pride? They only seem to present a list of superheroines who avert the Most Common Superpower, but does not indicate that they actively take pride in their lack of assets. I don't read comic books, so I don't know if these traits are ever brought up in their stories.
- Hyperactive Metabolism: Abilities such as The Hunger allows Vampire Lords and Blood Knights to heal a wound if they slay an enemy in close combat and drink the blood of their victim.
Is this example valid? Does Hyperactive Metabolism apply in this case, or is it limited to conventional food?
I agree about deleting those three examples.
Given how often this example tends to be misused, are the following from Legion of Super-Heroes being used correctly?:
- Audience-Alienating Premise:
- Legion fans were not exactly happy to learn that after the New 52 Legion title was cancelled in 2013, it would be replaced by a completely unrelated Justice League of America title called Justice League 3000. (Regardless of the fact that the creative team behind the book was intended to be Keith Giffen, J.M. DeMatteis, and Kevin Maguire, the alumni behind Justice League International.) Notoriety for Justice League 3000 picked up after artist Kevin Maguire was fired off the book before it even went to print, for unrevealed reasons (Maguire took to Twitter and insinuated that the book's editors wanted something "dark and gritty", which really makes you wonder why they hired the team behind JLI).
- From the Retroboot, there was the presence of Earth-Man in the Legion. The guy, introduced by Johns, tainted the legacy of Superman to spite the Legion because he felt rejected by the Legion. and instead of channeling that into something positive like the Subs, resorted to gathering up a bunch of Earth's other rejects and created a new wave of Fantastic Racism on Earth... this man is now a Legionairre... and was chosen to be Green Lantern... While many like his character arc, it's not hard to see how many others wouldn't exactly want to read about this guy being in the Legion.
If the Comics themselves were cancelled i guess they would count.
Can Ships That Pass in the Night be used for characters who are in the same team but dont have that many interactions in the beginning? Im referring to Blake and Yang from RWBY who are a popular pairing but they never interacted with one another in the first two volumes. Though, that changed around the third.
Edited by WhirlRX on Jan 19th 2020 at 4:46:17 AM
I think a pairing could count as a past example of that. But in the specific case of Blake/Yang, I don't think they ever counted. They didn't have a lot of early interaction, but what they did have was significant . They were paired as partners, after all.
I mean, every pair of characters has to have a point before which they didn't interact. Seems kind of silly to use that for Ships That Pass in the Night.
But if there was a sizable following for the ship before the characters involved even met, that's notable.
Between the main RWBY group shipping, the overall the popular pairing Ship Mates was Ruby/Weiss and Yang/Blake. While RW had plenty of interaction amongst them that could be built up for shipping, BY didn't have nearly as much that wasn't team related. But it only lasted for one volume i think.
But they had interaction, and significant interaction at that. Therefore they cannot be Ships That Pass in the Night, is my point.
Does it count as Spared by the Adaptation if the character dies and gets revived in canon, but never dies at all in the adaption?
Jawbreakers on sale for 99ยขOk, kind of a weird one but someone recommended I ask here first. I was writing on Batman and Harley Quinn and I thought that Floronic Man's name was Fluoronic Man (note the U), and posted a trope about how he didn't seem to have anything to do with fluorine. Someone pointed out I spelled his name wrong and deleted it. So I looked up "Floronic" and its not on dictionary.com, and google just turns up Batman and Swamp Thing related stuff, so I'm pretty sure it's made up. Would it could as a Perfectly Cromulent Word then?
This was removed from Artistic Age:
- RWBY: RWBY is guilty of this with their middle-aged characters, to the point that they can easily disguise themselves as high-school/college-aged students at Beacon Academy.
Edit reason: That's a reference to Cinder's team. Cinder is only in her early twenties, and Emerald and Mercury are the same age as everyone else. Not middle-aged.
Cinder has a Vague Age, but it's implied she's to be between 20 and 30. Could she still count as Artistic Age or is that too short a gap?
Judging by the Wikipedia article, the most likely origin of the name is the interdimensional world (Floria) that he hails from. "Floronic" could mean "native of Floria," although it's unclear why it wouldn't be the more obvious "Florian."
I dunno, from a Doylist perspective it fits the spirit of Perfectly Cromulent Word, but from a Watsonian perspective there's at least some reason to think it might actually mean something in-universe as opposed to being made-up to sound fancy.
Still an example; twentysomethings generally do look different from high schoolers. Just rephrase it to be accurate.
Trouble Cube continues to be a general-purpose forum for those who desire such a thing.Pichu@Also, worded so it doesn't seem complaining. Guilty makes it sound like it.
From Trivia.The Cars:
- Author Existence Failure: Benjamin Orr's death in 2000 and Ric Ocasek's death in 2019 will likely mean the end for any more Cars reunions.
Does this example count as potential misuse of this trope?
He/His/Him. No matter who you are, always Be Yourself.Crossover-Enthusiast: Yes, I'd say that would count as Spared by the Adaptation.
Keet cleanupFor Single-Target Sexuality, it seems the line between one true love and this trope seems to be blurred. I don't think it's that common for fictional characters to be attracted to more than one person
Macron's notes
Private Tutor must be someone who tutors as a job, right? OR, it's literally just a private teacher, so this would count?