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- Sounds like Cut Lex Luthor a Check? Does merging both ideas into something like "Poor Triple Shifter" or something, sound like a good idea? TRS, of course.

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I'm sorry, however, I honestly don't know.

The heroic version of Cut Lex Luthor a Check is Reed Richards Is Useless, not Heroism Won't Pay the Bills.

Edited by MorganWick on Dec 5th 2022 at 2:06:42 AM

I know Cut Lex Luthor a Check isn't a heroic trope, if that's what you're getting at. (I can't tell if that comment is addressing me or Malady.)

EDIT: Looking back, I think I might've misread the comment.

Edited by RandomTroper123 on Mar 2nd 2024 at 2:49:25 AM

For PlayingWith.Psychological Projection, projecting positive traits was added as an inversion. I know the most common examples of this trope are that of negative projection, but I don’t think psychological projection is inherently negative or positive and thus positive projection is still projection. Permission to cut?

Mostly Malady. Not sure how you were reading my comment that you thought I was saying you didn't understand that Cut Lex Luthor a Check is specific to villains, but my comment should be read "The heroic version of Cut Lex Luthor a Check is Reed Richards Is Useless, [the heroic version of CLLAC is] not Heroism Won't Pay the Bills."

Well I wasn't completely sure.

Was deciding on whether my addition to Anaphora fits, and now I want to make a good Playing With.

• Exaggerated: Every sentence in a speech starts with the exact some words, except for the last word.
• Downplayed: Only the first word in a list ties the list together.

For the latter, I'm basing it on how this list was accepted, and only the "The"-s tie things together?

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One of the Played For Drama examples in PlayingWith.Standard Hero Reward is a lot of paragraphs. It's like someone years ago added their fanfic to it. Should it be trimmed?

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Yeah.

Just read PlayingWith.Badass Normal and I found this.

Basic Trope: A character who, despite lacking the magical enhancements of the main cast, still holds their own in a fight against those that DO possess magical enhancements.

• Downplayed:
  • Bob does have magical powers, yet they're so situational and underwhelming, that it is as if they didn't exist. So, he has to rely on good-old training and wits to fight alongside his magic-wielding comrades.
  • Bob can use magic, but anybody in the setting can use magic if they know how.

The "Downplayed" section contradicts what the trope is about. Cut? Is there a better entry?

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How about this?

Downplayed: Bob can't use magic like the other characters, but the other characters' magic abilities are too situational or low-powered to be notable.

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Is PlayingWith.Hand Or Object Underwear correct that downplayed examples allow covering of Fully-Clothed Nudity?

If so, the leg of Wandering Witch: The Journey of Elaina and one◊ of the Princess Maker 2 art pieces would still count because they're covering up the crotch area anyway? I was previously working from this ruling, which needed "no underwear".

Edited by Malady on Jan 1st 2023 at 7:42:21 AM

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I'm unsure about the Playing With page, though I don't feel those pics count as Hand-or-Object Underwear because I feel her outfit covers too much of her.

PlayingWith.Teen Pregnancy: If a child or preteen character gets pregnant at a dangerously early age below puberty or childbearing age, or just at the start of puberty, which trope fits better: Absurdly Youthful Mother or Teen Pregnancy? The latter seems like it could extend to preteens despite the semantic-in-title issue, though the former seems like a more reasonable fit since one paragraph notes precocious puberty and the world's youngest recorded mother, but most of the examples are in their late teens or early 20s, making children seem like an awkward fit for that trope. And it's only for females; we don't seem to have Absurdly Youthful Father.

I feel like Absurdly Youthful Mother needs its description clarified. The title, one of the paragraphs in the description, and treatment of some of the examples seem to suggest that it's specifically about a mother who must have given birth while prepubescent, but the rest of the description doesn't really clarify that it doesn't rule out Teen Pregnancy. There's no real clear, firm standard of what to include, and to make matters worse, the examples are soft-split, something three previous TRS threads tried to deal with, but the description doesn't really set up the soft split.

PlayingWith.Mistaken Declaration Of Love is effectively a stub, cut?

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Yeah, that should go.

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Just read PlayingWith.Chaste Hero and I found this.

• Basic Trope: The Hero is Oblivious to Love.
• Gender-Inverted:
  • In a Five-Man Band, The Heart is unaware that all the men love her.
  • In a Gender-Inverted Five-Man Band, The Leader is unaware that The Heart (the only male team member) loves her.

The "gender-inverted" entries above do not make sense. Wouldn't a "gender-inverted" entry be something like, "The Heroine is Oblivious to Love"? (which has no difference with the basic trope whatsoever)

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I'm going to say this again, because it was brushed aside. The Played For Dama section of PlayingWith.Standard Hero Reward needs a lot of trimming. I get "Repair, Don't Respond" guideline here, but cannot do it alone in such a huge wall of text.

Thank you

Edited by alnair20aug93 on Feb 7th 2023 at 11:04:12 PM

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I'd cut them for the reason you stated plus Chaste Hero doesn't seem to me always male (hence the redirect Chaste Heroine).

Trimmed it.

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Found this in PlayingWith.Trapped In Another World.

• Basic Trope: Ordinary person gets transported to another, fantastic realm.
• Downplayed: Kenta finds himself in an Alternate Universe, marginally but noticeably different from his own.

The downplayed entry seems no different from the basic trope (it's still an AU). Any way to adjust it? Can it be downplayed at all?

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Usually the other world is more than just an Alternate Universe with the same physics? Keyword that's deliberately missing in Downplayed is "Fantastic"?

Edited by Malady on Mar 5th 2023 at 9:11:45 AM

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Noted.

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Some questions I have for PlayingWith.Broken Ace.

• Basic Trope: The Ace turns out to have big problems.
• Straight: Derek is a popular, handsome, charming fellow... But behind that winning smile hides a guy whose greatest fear is failing and losing the reputation he's strived so hard to achieve.
• Inverted:
  • Derek's a dim underachiever, but is the happiest and most innocent character in the show.
  • Derek is Brilliant, but Lazy.
  • Derek is an Almighty Janitor. That is, he is completely unremarkable and nobody really cares about him, but Derek is more competent than he lets on.

1. Is it essential for The Ace's "big problems" to be born of their status as The Ace?
2. I don't understand how the last two double-bullets of the Inverted section invert this trope.
3. Does the following entry count as an Inverted Trope?
   Derek has crippling fears of failure and success, but he manages to develop into The Ace in spite of said fears.

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