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Comment out Zero Context Examples and leave this comment note on the page itself:

%% Administrivia/ZeroContextExample entries are not allowed on wiki pages. All such entries have been commented out. Add context to the entries before uncommenting them.

Edited to be a thread header.

Edited by nombretomado on Mar 3rd 2019 at 6:12:58 AM

Amonimus the Retromancer from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the Retromancer
#3926: Oct 16th 2022 at 2:09:25 PM

[up] I think it's fine with this ATT. Also I've forgot to bring attention to it but their Serial Killer example is full word cruft so this context need to be removed as well.

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Willowleaf24 from Somewhere buried in snow Since: Nov, 2020 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
#3927: Oct 16th 2022 at 3:04:52 PM

Just stumbled across Funny.Chicken Pika. It looks like nearly the entire page is just...random quotes? That doesn't count as context, correct?

It looks like some of the people who added quotes recently might still be active, so I'll probably send notifiers before doing anything else. Still just wanted to confirm, considering how large the page is.

RandomTroper123 She / Her from I'll let you guess... (Not-So-Newbie) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
She / Her
#3928: Oct 16th 2022 at 3:12:32 PM

[up][up]Ok, though what about the Supporting Protagonist entry? I'm asking because that post was closer to being about the Only Sane Man one instead of both entries.

badtothebaritone (Life not ruined yet) Relationship Status: Snooping as usual
#3929: Oct 16th 2022 at 3:13:26 PM

[up][up] You are correct. Quotes alone are not sufficient context.

Amonimus the Retromancer from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the Retromancer
#3930: Oct 16th 2022 at 3:14:11 PM

I was referring to all ZCE on page, they need to be commented out out of principle.

Edited by Amonimus on Oct 16th 2022 at 1:14:40 PM

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RandomTroper123 She / Her from I'll let you guess... (Not-So-Newbie) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
She / Her
PS16 PS 16 from NYC Since: Jan, 2022 Relationship Status: Dancing with myself
#3932: Oct 16th 2022 at 5:39:49 PM

Here's an edit I made on Dhar Mann:

  • Butt-Monkey : Mikey suffered various punishments and consequences due to his scheming. His parents seem to favor his brother Jayden over him, his teachers force him to do more work than needed when he's in trouble, and even his friends and classmates seem to dislike him. It even reaches the point where the entire world appears to hate him after he cheated in Gamer Caught CHEATING.

Is this a good example? note 

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Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#3933: Oct 16th 2022 at 6:42:52 PM

Enchanted looks real easy to get to 3 tropes. Days Of The Week Theme Naming, whatever that's called, and Family Theme Naming, and Massive Numbered Siblings just from the description, so don't cut without storing it in a Sandbox, please?

Bigger issue is that it needs disambig renaming due to clash with the movie.

Going to bed, g'night.

Edit: And Single Sex Offspring.

Edited by Malady on Oct 17th 2022 at 6:25:50 AM

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WarJay77 Discarded and Feeling Blue (Troper Knight)
Discarded and Feeling Blue
#3934: Oct 16th 2022 at 10:44:22 PM

[up][up] Do you mean to post in this thread. This is a cleanup thread, it's not for checking the validity of the examples you've written.

That said, your example has context, but... I'd question the concept of Dhar Mann having any continuity between the stories rather than just using the same actors and characters occasionally, and since I know that Mikey is also always the "one doing wrong" isn't more like Karmic Butt-Monkey?

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RandomTroper123 She / Her from I'll let you guess... (Not-So-Newbie) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
She / Her
#3935: Oct 16th 2022 at 10:50:19 PM

[up]Seconded. While I think that person was just trying to see if that entry had enough context, I feel the "Is this an example?" thread is more fitting. I also agree that Karmic Butt-Monkey appears to be a better fit.

ChloeJessica Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: Awaiting my mail-order bride
#3936: Oct 16th 2022 at 10:59:41 PM

i commented out all the ZCEs on Literature.Enchanted, leaving "Day of the Week" Name, Fairy Tale Free-for-All, and The Pirates Who Don't Do Anything, as all seem to have enough context. so the page seems safe for now, ~Tropers/Malady.

e: goddamn punctuation bug. oh well, they'll probably see this.

Edited by ChloeJessica on Oct 16th 2022 at 11:02:50 AM

Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#3937: Oct 17th 2022 at 6:47:37 AM

[up] - Yeppers!

Film.Eating Out: Only two visible tropes, every-trope else is commented out, so it's a cut candidate. Anyone got a reason to not put it on the List?

  • Ascended Extra: Tiffany qualifies. (Her role in the first movie was minor, but for the third ones is the only remaining member of the original cast)
  • No Bisexuals: Everyone's reaction when Troy says he's one.

Edited by Malady on Oct 17th 2022 at 6:47:45 AM

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underCoverSailsman Peeks from Under Rocks from State of Flux Since: Jan, 2021 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Peeks from Under Rocks
#3938: Oct 17th 2022 at 8:52:42 AM

[up]Even those two are marginal, at best.

Twiddler (On A Trope Odyssey)
#3939: Oct 17th 2022 at 12:49:00 PM

Was able to crosswick context for No Bisexuals. Looks like some tropes should be addable from the description, too. I'll see about getting to that later.

RandomTroper123 She / Her from I'll let you guess... (Not-So-Newbie) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
She / Her
#3940: Oct 17th 2022 at 1:42:53 PM

[up](x3) I feel the first is partial-context at best and the second is zero-context.

Edited by RandomTroper123 on Oct 17th 2022 at 1:43:10 AM

RobertTYL Since: Oct, 2019 Relationship Status: Holding out for a hero
#3941: Oct 17th 2022 at 11:22:40 PM

Fanfic.The Mantisinthe Mix

Fanfic.The Ultimate Weapon

Fanfic.The Teenage Vigilantes Guide

...well, the pages are made by relative newcomer called Mercat6, so no surprise about the quality. Still, are the pages in "decent" enough condition to keep?

I commented out a bunch, then saw the rest...

underCoverSailsman Peeks from Under Rocks from State of Flux Since: Jan, 2021 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Peeks from Under Rocks
#3942: Oct 18th 2022 at 12:05:29 AM

[up]I think The Mantis In The Mix has three... The others, not so much.

Literature.The Beasts Of Clawstone Castle is a bit of a mess. I've found proper context for 3, with a fourth perhaps marginal. Added to Pages Needing Example Context and commented out the ZCE...

Grotadmorv Now we're so young, but we're probably gonna die from Getting wasted at your funeral (Fifth Year at Tropey's) Relationship Status: Waiting for you *wink*
Now we're so young, but we're probably gonna die
#3943: Oct 18th 2022 at 6:37:25 PM

Is Dubloon salvageable?

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RobertTYL Since: Oct, 2019 Relationship Status: Holding out for a hero
Adept (Holding A Herring) Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
#3945: Oct 19th 2022 at 4:19:18 AM

So I found Terrible Writing Advice, where pretty much every tropes listed is ZCE. It's formatted as Episode Title: *list of tropes that is featured in the particular episode*, and none of the items mentioned have any context whatsoever.

Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#3946: Oct 19th 2022 at 5:22:52 AM

I wouldn't even call that a real attempt at a trope list, just really bad episode summary style?

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Adept (Holding A Herring) Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
#3947: Oct 19th 2022 at 7:54:40 AM

I know that. Should they all just be cut? Commented out?

Plenty of recap pages don't have trope lists anyway.

Berrenta How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
How sweet it is
#3948: Oct 19th 2022 at 1:28:09 PM

Encountered Literature.Magic Time. The sheer amount of ZCE's is concerning.

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Cutegirl920fire CG for short from NYC apparently (Rule of Three) Relationship Status: Paris holds the key to my heart
CG for short
#3949: Oct 19th 2022 at 5:05:18 PM

Does this example from The Hexer have sufficent context? If not, I'll comment it out once I finish crosswicking the work.

  • Compressed Adaptation: Episode 7, "Dolina Kwiatów" ("The Valley of Flowers") takes elements from "Eternal Flame" and "The Edge of the World".

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Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#3950: Oct 19th 2022 at 10:21:19 PM

[up][up][up] - I'd comment them out so people know the source so it's easier to confirm or deny existence.

At least there's a few that are accidentally better, like The Perfectionist.

The Characters page, I just realized it exists, might also provide good context for work page tropes.

Edited by Malady on Oct 19th 2022 at 10:23:06 AM

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