Fixing zero context examples

Sorry for removing it, I thought it was JAFAAC

Edited by Darvincy on Aug 12th 2021 at 1:38:18 PM

Do I look like I know what a Wick is? I just want a link to a gosh dang Cleanup thread!

Deacon Chalk is ZCEs galore. The only edits post-2012 are formatting fixes, adding an image, and replacing a defunct trope name.

It also needs an update. The description says that a third novel will soon be released, and that nev novel was released in 2013

"Listen up, Marina, because this is SUPER important. Whatever you do, don't eat th“ “DON'T EAT WHAT?! Your text box ran out of space!”

Do these examples from Star Trek Enterprise S 02 E 05 A Night In Sickbay look like they have enough context?:

• Big-Lipped Alligator Moment: The bizarrely aggressive Ship Tease between Archer and T'Pol, which is confined entirely to this one episode.
• Idiot Plot: There was absolutely no reason for Archer to bring his dog on a sensitive diplomatic mission with an easily offended alien species.
• Tainted by the Preview: The only Star Trek product that's more potentially infamous and embarrassing than this episode is the trailer for it, which looks like something straight out of a sleazy sitcom.
• Took the Bad Film Seriously: John Billingsly loved this episode and working with Scott Bakula on it. Everyone else...not so much.

Edited by Anddrix on Aug 12th 2021 at 10:47:54 AM

Halo Combat Deformed is mostly ZCEs, and the only edits made after 2013 (the year its creator and main editor was last active) are Wick Namespace Migration and Badass dewicking.

Edited by Shadow8411 on Aug 12th 2021 at 3:42:50 AM

Re: Star Trek

BLAM and Idiot Plot don't have enough context. For the latter, how is bringing a pet offensive?

Took the Bad Film Seriously needs to show evidence that the episode was a flop.

Not sure on Tainted by the Preview.

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Do the following examples from The Wish List look like they have enough context?:

• Affably Evil: Myishi generally comes off as friendly, but he's still a literally demonic Mad Scientist.
• The Alcoholic: Nora, Lowrie's late wife was this. It ended up killing her in a way — she came home plastered one night and chugged some toilet bleach by mistake.
• Bad Boss: Beelzebub has a bad habit of vaporizing souls for no reason other than him happening to be angry or worried at the time.
• Big Bad: Satan is the ultimate mastermind of the plot, intending to collect Meg's soul and hence sending her to hell.
• Demon Lords and Archdevils: Beelzebub is one of Satan's highest-ranking minions. Of course, this doesn't stop him from getting threatened and demeaned by his boss.
• Even Evil Has Standards: It's implied that Beelzebub is disgusted by the surgical procedure Myishi uses to turn Belch into a soul man.
• Every One Has Standards: Meg's refusal to let Belch kill Lowrie during the burglary is enough to drag her Karma score up to a completely balanced neutral.
• Fat Bastard: Franco is as fat as he is cruel.
• Forceful Kiss: Somewhat. There was no force involved but it was a surprise to the woman that Lowrie kissed that he always regretted not doing so.
• Grand Theft Me: Belch eventually takes over the body of Meg's father Franco.

• The Alcoholic: Nope, this is a "is this, which leads to other things" ZCE that doesn't explain how the trope applies to begin with.
• Bad Boss: Half-context, missing the "boss" part.
• Even Evil Has Standards: Not entirely sure this one is an example at all.
• Forceful Kiss: That also seems like not an example.
• Grand Theft Me: Not sure, this might be better listed under a different subtrope of Body Snatcher.

The rest are borderline enough that we're not sure.

Edited by wingedcatgirl on Aug 15th 2021 at 2:26:58 PM

Trouble Cube continues to be a general-purpose forum for those who desire such a thing.

Soap Wheel is mainly a list of work names.

Is Nagasaki Moon worth saving, or it should just be Nagasaki'ed? (Like what happen to the real Nagasaki back in '45)

Feel free to have a glance at its character page as well — last update a decade ago...

Edited by RobertTYL on Aug 18th 2021 at 12:25:19 AM

Characters.The Other Side

Oh god this page.

this page is so bad.

Jawbreakers on sale for 99¢

I don't know if this one is salvagable.

LetsPlay.Diplo Raptor

Not only it has so many ZCE, but they're often general example as well. Sometime it don't even talk about the trope's example but how the host react (which might be fine if it's some sort of analysis, but not something like "Made him facepalm everytime")

Checked the history, the only one actually added content to the page was Diplo Raptor and he is no longer active.

Edited by Kuruni on Aug 19th 2021 at 12:23:10 AM

Sounds like Auto-Erotic Troping to me.

Edited by NitroIndigo on Aug 18th 2021 at 7:47:27 PM

I apologize if there's a policy for this that I missed, but what do we do with pages that would become stubs if all ZCEs were removed? I've been looking through some obscure webcomic pages, and I've come across several (see Solstice Twins, Rip And Teri) that seem to consist of only ZCEs; on top of that, several of them don't seem to be accessible at all, making them nigh-impossible to fix. At this point, should the pages just be cutlisted?

Edited by Mahoxy on Aug 18th 2021 at 4:53:14 AM

clearly things are going well.

There should be a policy on TV Tropes called "There Is Such A Thing As Verifiability."

Kirby is awesome.

If you comment out the zero-context examples and you're left with two or fewer examples that are valid (i.e. they're not misusing the trope) and that have enough context, then yes, the page can be cut for being a stub. The general consensus on lost media seems to be turning toward "leave the page up if it once existed and the page is otherwise fine".

Edited by Serac on Aug 19th 2021 at 2:50:22 PM

Just noting here that I commented out some zces on Hellgate while alphabetising, but I didn't add the tagged note at the top agains zces because I'm unsure if I've commented out all of them. Some blatant "name and no explanation" ones went, but some seem to give a vague idea but not enough context, but I'm unsure. (I believe this is the thread I should bring this up on, although the majority of pages brought here seem to be work pages or subpages, not main pages.) Another's input on whether the tag can be added or not as well as if anyone wants to do anything more regarding the zces would be much appreciated.

What Becomes Of The Broken Hearted hasn't been edited since the day after it was created, its sole editor (barring formatting and dewicking of defunct tropes) has been inactive for over a year, it isn't indexed, it only appears on one trope page (and the trope in question isn't even listed on the work page), and it's hard to think of even one trope entry that truly has enough context. I'm leaning towards a cut.

Not sure where to ask about this since it isn't zero context, just....

NintendoHard.Platform Games has this entry:

• Shadow of the Beast 2 (at least the Amiga version) is even crueler. The general combat was a tad easier, in that there were more opportunities to heal. The game compensated, however, by throwing in a Sierra-like level of Unwinnable situations. You could screw your game over four different ways in the first five minutes, and it just gets worse from there.

"Crueler" and "easier" presumably compare it to an entry for Shadow of the Beast 1 that has since been removed, so the Beast 2 entry as it stands no longer has sufficient context to explain itself. What should be done? (Unfortunately, I haven't played either game.)

Since it doesn't elaborate on either of the things it's comparing to, it's all ZCE. I don't think anything of value will be lost if you just delete it.

Psychological Horror has a “Creators known for this trope” tab, which consists entirely of ZCEs. Is said folder really needed?

EDIT: Well, it is an index, so we don’t really need context, but I’m still not sure if the folder is needed.

Edited by jandn2014 on Aug 21st 2021 at 1:53:10 PM

back lol

S Plus D Equals K — an obscure fanfic page? Why am I not surprised?

Hid the ZCE (not that long of a page), gonna wash my eyes.

I might do another run through. I see a few things you missed.

Current Project: Incorruptible Pure Pureness

There's an example on YMMV.Star Vs The Forces Of Evil:

• Fandom Rivalry: Some fans of Steven Universe have seen this show as a rival because both feature Magical Girls that were created by women who left relatively popular programs to make their own. Also, both shows have been known to reference anime.

Does this explain enough for how there's a rivalry?