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Icebomb5 Since: Aug, 2016
Mar 2nd 2024 at 3:15:07 PM •••

As of now, Willy's Chocolate Experience should be included.

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kablammin45 (Don’t ask)
Mar 2nd 2024 at 4:34:20 PM •••

There’s pretty much no debate, yeah, but we do still have a one month long cooldown, so we do still have to wait for that, even for obvious inclusions like WCE.

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Acapal100 Since: Dec, 2020
Mar 3rd 2024 at 3:47:05 AM •••

So we'll wait until the end of March and then it will be readded.

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mightymewtron Angry babby Since: Oct, 2012
Angry babby
Nov 15th 2023 at 9:19:20 AM •••

Any thoughts on that NFT Ape Fest event that used UV lights as party lights and caused severe eye injuries to its attendees?

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Radayam Since: Mar, 2017
Jan 10th 2023 at 12:21:47 PM •••

Edit: Nevermind, fuck Scott Adams.

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Storygirl000 The Scarlet Queen Since: Sep, 2016
The Scarlet Queen
Oct 10th 2022 at 6:45:14 AM •••

Question, since I didn't see anything about it on the main page: is there an amount of time I have to wait before I can add an example to this page (like a certain amount of time passing after its release/after the event happens)? Because there's an event I felt could be a natural fit for this considering what I've heard about it, but it's recent enough that I'm not sure.

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AlmightyKingPrawn Since: Oct, 2019
Oct 10th 2022 at 8:46:35 AM •••

You have to wait one month after release. In TwitchCon's case (assuming it's that) wait until November 9.

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Storygirl000 Since: Sep, 2016
Oct 10th 2022 at 9:27:39 AM •••

Alright, A) thank you for clarifying, and B) yeah, it's TwitchCon.

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CrazyLuigi Since: May, 2010
Oct 10th 2022 at 4:46:29 PM •••

Yeah, I can imagine a foam pit thing that's likely worse than DashCon's own ball pit thing being mentioned, if only for what happened with that one guy at hand. :(

CrazyLuigi Since: May, 2010
Oct 30th 2022 at 11:00:36 AM •••

So an update to add onto the eventual mention: one of the injured people turned out to be unknowingly pregnant at the time, and it resulted in a miscarriage because of it. :(

Source: https://clips.twitch.tv/OutstandingElatedArtichokeArsonNoSexy--eC4DuZOpx4bV0Ua

CrazyLuigi Since: May, 2010
Nov 9th 2022 at 9:43:12 AM •••

Welp, it's November 9th now. That should mean it's okay to post 2022 TwitchCon in the conventions section now.

IWillNibbleYourEar Since: Dec, 2017
Aug 17th 2022 at 8:26:25 PM •••

Not sure if it's too early, but should the recent Pink Sauce be listed under Horrible Foods?

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mightymewtron Since: Oct, 2012
Aug 17th 2022 at 11:09:24 PM •••

I believe it needs a month's delay. Unsure what the "pink sauce" issue exactly is — looking it up, seems to be some Tik Tok influencer's recipe for some sort of dubious sauce.

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Zuxtron (On A Trope Odyssey)
Aug 17th 2022 at 11:12:36 PM •••

From what I heard, Pink Sauce is produced in a home kitchen (in conditions that don't match industry standards), has blatantly wrong nutritional information on the label (apparently, the creator picked lucky numbers based on numerology or something), and contains non-shelf stable ingredients (including milk) but is shipped in non-refrigerated trucks, which may have led to people getting sick from it. But I don't follow Tik Tok crap so I have no clue if things got better afterwards.

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kablammin45 Flawless Victree (Don’t ask)
Flawless Victree
Jun 30th 2022 at 11:46:00 AM •••

Question for the rides section: Would Action Park's Cannonball Loop qualify for the page? It's generally regarded as the nadir of the park's ride/slide designs, was noted for its many injuries, and its following is limited to the same Bile Fascination that the rest of the park has.

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mightymewtron Since: Oct, 2012
Jun 30th 2022 at 12:07:59 PM •••

I don't know, since a common legend of Action Park is that kids would go there to see if they could brave all the rides, and Cannonball Loop may have been included there.

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IvanovTroping97 Since: Mar, 2015
Apr 9th 2022 at 3:44:27 AM •••

Does anyone think that Mattel's JuiceBox should be added to the Media Formats section?

AlmightyKingPrawn I can chase the wind, I can race the rain Since: Oct, 2019
I can chase the wind, I can race the rain
Dec 30th 2021 at 10:41:54 AM •••

So, I don't feel I have the theme park expertise to do the writup myself, but how is Fast and Furious: Supercharged looking?

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WoodKnapp94 Since: May, 2020
Oct 7th 2020 at 3:49:41 PM •••

A couple months ago, I suggested a bunch of new logos to add in the "Vanity Plates" folder on the cleanup thread, but I figured this would be a better place for it. Here's what I got:

Any thoughts on these?

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AlmightyKingPrawn Since: Oct, 2019
Dec 30th 2021 at 10:37:22 AM •••

Over a year late response so I'm sorry, but while I'm unsure about the rest I think Grupo Cidade, LA Hero, Eatabullet, Lion Base, Vijetha, and maybe Third Eye qualify.

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mariic Since: Nov, 2009
Mar 28th 2021 at 1:13:10 AM •••

Should we add an entry for Green Lantern: First Flight in the Rides section?

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troperaiser Since: Nov, 2017
May 13th 2021 at 5:05:59 AM •••

https://youtu.be/jJfgHa49GX0 Also in the rides section, should we add Submarine Quest?

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mightymewtron Since: Oct, 2012
May 13th 2021 at 2:59:51 PM •••

I thought about it but I'm unsure if First Flight counts because it did have a good reception initially. As the video details, it was only after the ride was tweaked that it became so bad.

Submarine Quest, on the other hand, appears to be very poorly designed and have been immediately poorly received with guests, comparable to Superstar Limo. I think it could fit.

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Trevor807 Since: Sep, 2018
Aug 13th 2020 at 6:28:23 PM •••

Check out this logo for 30th Television. Yes, they thought of that. Cheap all around. It’s clear they just pasted the “TELEVISION” part from the 20th Television logo onto the 30th Century Fox Television logo (and even stretched it), then zoomed out the end part. The part of the 30th Century Fox Television logo can still be seen, and the new addition goes over the “30th” part.

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nm3youtube Since: Jul, 2012
Aug 14th 2020 at 4:16:56 AM •••

I hope the consensus is that it counts, because wow. That sort of jank would be barely passable for one of those cheapo British labels that went out of business because of the video nasty moral panic. Absolutely unacceptable for a major corporation.

Trevor807 Since: Sep, 2018
Aug 14th 2020 at 1:19:24 PM •••

At least the 20th Century Fox Television Distribution logo is So Bad, It's Good because of the way it’s rendered and the overly long name.

Trevor807 Since: Sep, 2018
Aug 14th 2020 at 1:28:45 PM •••

You can also see the black border on the top and bottom of the screen after the logo zooms out too far, if you look closely. Overall, the whole thing wouldn’t even qualify as a fan-made logo, and that’s saying something.

Trevor807 Since: Sep, 2018
Aug 14th 2020 at 1:32:52 PM •••

Oh, and if the comments are anything to go by, yes, that’s the consensus.

AlmightyKingPrawn Since: Oct, 2019
Aug 15th 2020 at 10:52:04 AM •••

I agree with adding it.

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BionicleHau33 Since: Feb, 2019
Oct 18th 2019 at 6:02:40 PM •••

Now that theme park attractions are eligible for this, I suggest Journey into YOUR Imagination, a needlessly cynical revamp of Journey into Imagination, as qualifying for this trope. Much of the ride got gutted to make room for a ride that insults the audience’s intelligence right at the start by insinuating they had no imagination. Figment was reduced to a cameo, and many other elements were totally gone. The ride was overall a dull experience, and even the current attraction bears the scars of this one due to the gutting of the old system.

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AlmightyKingPrawn Since: Oct, 2019
Oct 18th 2019 at 7:28:51 PM •••

Think it qualifies.

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BionicleHau33 Since: Feb, 2019
Oct 19th 2019 at 6:44:30 AM •••

I’ll do the writeup: By far the worst change as part of the revamp of Epcot was the transformation of the beloved icon Journey into Imagination into a needlessly cynical romp known as Journey Into YOUR Imagination. Right from the get-go, the old ride had been gutted and many parts auctioned or even thrown away. The ride opens, in a way that gave it lower capacity than the original, with the insulting of the audience’s intelligence, by insinuating that they lacked imagination. The ride had been cut down to a measly 5 minutes of boring exhibitions hosted by the unlikeable Nigel Channing. Almost every element from the original is gone, with Figment reduced to a blink and you’ll miss it cameo. This ride only lasted all of two years, before being retooled into the current incarnation, but the scars of this version remain, such as the shortened length.

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AlmightyKingPrawn Since: Oct, 2019
Oct 19th 2019 at 8:05:37 AM •••

Looks good. Remember to put it and Superstar Limo into a new folder for theme park attractions.

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BionicleHau33 Since: Feb, 2019
Oct 19th 2019 at 8:13:40 AM •••

What’s done is done. And I also think Rocket Rods would qualify. A disappointing, malfunctioning, inconsistent replacement for the Peoplemover that was so bad the Peoplemover tracks remain unused today. I’d also add the fat-shaming Habit Heroes, which may very likely have killed the creation of new original characters at Disney parks.

BionicleHau33 Since: Feb, 2019
Oct 20th 2019 at 5:49:44 PM •••

When Paul Pressler performed the controversial redesign of Tommorowland, he green light a replacement for the low-capacity Peoplemover; the result, known as the Rocket Rods, was easily the most unsafe ride Disney had ever developed. The rickety vehicles used had uncomfortable seating, were exposed to the elements, and were very obviously never meant to be on a slow track, which was very obviously never meant for a thrill ride. The inconsistency of the ride was illustrated when it speeds up at the start with an annoying revving sound before quickly and roughly slowing down for a turn. It kept on doing this, turn after turn, making for a bumpy ride. The vehicles and track were very prone to malfunctioning, leading to fluctuating speeds and system failures. Not even a slight revision three months later could fix things, and they remained completely unreliable. It was unceremoniously closed in 2001, and quietly announced to be a permanent closure. To this day, the Peoplemover track stands unused, likely as a consequence of this disastrous ride.

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AlmightyKingPrawn Since: Oct, 2019
Oct 20th 2019 at 9:26:13 PM •••

Hey. You're a good writer. You don't have to consult with the discussion section to see if your entry is good once it's confirmed a qualifier. Just add it. Looking into stuff, both Rocket Rods and Habit Heroes qualify. We have our own ATT thread for Horrible stuff too. https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=15574101790A64005900&page=18#comment-437 link won't work so copy paste.

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BionicleHau33 Since: Feb, 2019
Dec 16th 2019 at 2:17:26 PM •••

There’s one more, very early Disney attraction I could see fitting; the Phantom Boats; ugly little boats that were so poorly-designed that they overheated in an instant, with 14 staff required to manage them. The area around them was unimpressive at the time, and they also gave off a lot of noxious smoke. It was the shortest-lived Disneyland ride, and one that Disney rarely acknowledges today. It also has the shame of being the only proper Tommorowland ride on opening day, and the very first permanent Disney attraction to close.

AlmightyKingPrawn Since: Oct, 2019
Dec 16th 2019 at 2:30:01 PM •••

Looks good.

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BionicleHau33 Since: Feb, 2019
Jul 10th 2020 at 5:41:45 PM •••

I found out about another day 1 Disneyland ride that could count; the Canal Boats of the World, the original version of the Storybook Land Canal Boats. While it was intended to have miniature scenes and cities (and even tiny animated figures) from around the world, the ride was rushed to completion, and thus riders would only pass ugly, muddy banks (or “Fantasyland Hills”), in a sharp contrast to the rest of the land, and suffered from frequent overheating. It closed after only two months for a massive revision into the Storybook Land Canal Boats.

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AlmightyKingPrawn Since: Oct, 2019
Jul 10th 2020 at 6:50:29 PM •••

Sure

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mightymewtron Angry babby Since: Oct, 2012
Angry babby
Oct 29th 2018 at 9:39:09 PM •••

I'm not really in the fandom so there may be details I don't know, but does Tentmoot really count if it never actually opened? The core of the entry seems to be more about the guy behind it (who seems to have stirred up a lot of controversy and constant re-editing) than the con itself.

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mightymewtron Since: Oct, 2012
Jan 25th 2020 at 6:55:25 PM •••

Nobody ever provided follow-up but I finally removed it. Every other entry in the Conventions folder focuses on the actual convention being why it's SBIH. Tentmoot focuses more on the person who created it and them being a scammer because the con never proved itself to be Horrible, since it never existed. It's more a weird case of Development Hell than anything.

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fanboy95 Since: Sep, 2014
Nov 14th 2019 at 7:51:24 AM •••

Does the logo for BC Video (taken from Tales of the Quadead Zone, itself a movie from a director whose works are awful) count since it's cheaply made and used stolen footage from Denver the Last Dinosaur?

If yes, then I'll gladly put the entry here myself.

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nm3youtube Since: Jul, 2012
Nov 14th 2019 at 8:52:40 AM •••

It does seem terrible, but I haven't seen hatred for it like I saw for UNC TV's 70s logo or Bujotoon Magic Video.

TheAlmightyKingPrawn Darkwing Goose Since: Jan, 2019
Darkwing Goose
Apr 23rd 2019 at 1:35:31 PM •••

Should all the video game presentatations stay here, or should they be moved to Video Games Other? There is stuff in the music section about the culture of music (e.g. festivals) rather than the music itself, so I think this is doable.

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Zuxtron (On A Trope Odyssey)
Apr 23rd 2019 at 1:54:46 PM •••

I agree with moving them to the video games page.

DDRMASTERM Since: Apr, 2013
Jun 22nd 2019 at 4:28:43 PM •••

My thought exactly, I will do this when I have the chance.

TheAlmightyKingPrawn Darkwing Goose Since: Jan, 2019
Darkwing Goose
Jun 17th 2019 at 3:38:22 PM •••

Should the Promotions folder be moved to Advertising?

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Someoneman Since: Nov, 2011
Jun 18th 2019 at 10:49:08 AM •••

Maybe. At least, the Land Rover example should be moved to the Web Ads folder.

ThePoppyBrosSr Decaf lover Since: Oct, 2010
Decaf lover
Jun 14th 2019 at 6:02:39 PM •••

"Oh, and for those hoping to collect DIVX discs out of some misplaced sense of weird nostalgia or an obsession with failed media formats"

Something about this statement on the DIVX entry strikes me as kinda mean spirited and insulting. Some people would want to find a DIVX for reasons outside the personal, such as documentations for tech museums and so on. In addition, while I was able to find plenty of evidence this was horribly received and thus deserves its entry, the article itself is extremely poorly written and contains many run-ons. Would it be okay to rewrite and clean up?

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TheAlmightyKingPrawn Since: Jan, 2019
Jun 14th 2019 at 7:53:09 PM •••

Yeah, do a rewrite.

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TheAlmightyKingPrawn Darkwing Goose Since: Jan, 2019
Darkwing Goose
Mar 5th 2019 at 6:52:00 PM •••

You thought that 100 Cable Channels We Don't Want was bad? https://www.gq.com/story/what-your-super-smash-bros-pick-says-about-you All of the "jokes" either insult the people that main the characters, or make literally no sense. Among other things, thinks that Meta Knight debuted in Melee.

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TheAlmightyKingPrawn Since: Jan, 2019
Mar 5th 2019 at 6:52:35 PM •••

Link isn't working, so copy/paste.

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Someoneman Since: Nov, 2011
Mar 6th 2019 at 8:17:33 AM •••

Just one person's reaction isn't enough to judge something as Horrible. For all I know, the person in that video might be overreacting for laughs/views. I have seen works that were So Okay, It's Average mistakenly added as SBIH before just because someone made an angry video about it.

TheAlmightyKingPrawn Since: Jan, 2019
Mar 6th 2019 at 9:46:36 AM •••

Well, I personally thought it was bad enough for the dishonor, but if you, Tarsier God of the Horrible Pages (sorry that I call you that) think that it doesn't qualify, I will not add it.

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Someoneman Since: Nov, 2011
Mar 6th 2019 at 3:47:22 PM •••

It's not my fault if nobody else frequents the Horrible discussions to give their opinions.

Someoneman Since: Nov, 2011
Mar 2nd 2019 at 7:27:25 AM •••

Steam Greenlight and Steam Direct were added as examples. I don't think they fit, since even if they allowed the release of games that are SBIH, they also allowed the release of some actually good games. It sounds like pointless complaining to me.

  • Steam Greenlight and its successor, Steam Direct, are classic examples of a good idea ruined by Sturgeon's Law. The idea for Greenlight was that indie developers could propose games that they have been developing to the Steam playerbase to determine what games they would like Valve to publish, with only the most in-demand quality games getting the green light, so to speak, to be sold through Steam. In practice, however, there was so little oversight (if any at all) that the indie marketplace on Steam was quickly flooded with the worst Shovelware ever released, with quality games drowned out in a sea of complete and utter crap, completely failing in its stated intent to curtail the flow of bad games. Greenlight would eventually be shut down in late 2017 and replaced with Steam Direct, which was created to ostensibly help streamline the publication of indie games onto Steam. Sadly, the streamlining amounted to little more than paying Valve $100 to publish the game, with very little done to vet the games or the publishers beforehand: when it came to curtailing the flow of shit, Direct did WORSE than Greenlight! The sheer amount of utter tripe released on Steam as a result of Greenlight and Direct have provided no shortage of material for Jim Sterling.

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TheAlmightyKingPrawn Since: Jan, 2019
Mar 2nd 2019 at 7:42:38 AM •••

I agree, plus if it did qualify it should go under Video Games Other.

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TheAlmightyKingPrawn Darkwing Goose Since: Jan, 2019
Darkwing Goose
Feb 25th 2019 at 7:06:32 AM •••

Both Nintendo's E3 2008 conference and the Xbox One reveal have been added recently. Should we make a folder for E3 conferences?

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nm3youtube Since: Jul, 2012
Mar 1st 2019 at 12:11:30 AM •••

The Xbox One reveal actually predates that year's E3 (in fact, that may have been part of the reason it went so horribly wrong), so perhaps a folder for "Video Game Presentations"?

While I did add the Xbox One reveal to Other because Nintendo's E3 08 disaster was also here and the former may have been even worse (since E3 08 didn't completely derail Nintendo's momentum - actually, perhaps the Wii U reveal counts as well, since that did?), I actually honestly wonder if it would fit better in an "Announcements and Presentations" section of Video Games Other.

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TheAlmightyKingPrawn Since: Jan, 2019
Mar 1st 2019 at 3:55:29 AM •••

Yeah, that would be a good idea.

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Someoneman Since: Nov, 2011
Mar 1st 2019 at 9:58:54 AM •••

I think a "Announcements and Presentations" folder might also fit on Horrible.Advertising.

TheAlmightyKingPrawn Darkwing Goose Since: Jan, 2019
Darkwing Goose
Feb 15th 2019 at 11:31:22 AM •••

Does Jilly Juice qualify? At 17:14 in this video https://youtu.be/xIQYcB2NtJQ link may not work because my phone is weird so copy paste if that happens.

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TheAlmightyKingPrawn Since: Jan, 2019
Feb 15th 2019 at 11:45:04 AM •••

And this guy made a video about not just the juice, but a book that could fit in the literature section.

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TheAlmightyKingPrawn Since: Jan, 2019
Feb 15th 2019 at 11:46:05 AM •••

Whoops forgot link https://youtu.be/r4OkM6fJbeg

I think this stuff may qualify, but I'm not 100% sure. What do you guys think?

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Someoneman Since: Nov, 2011
Feb 15th 2019 at 1:41:53 PM •••

If people followed the treatment, I think that qualifies as a fanbase, so I don't think it will fit here. We don't need to use SBIH to criticize all bad people and things, even if they're genuinely harmful.

Maybe All-Natural Snake Oil will be a better place.

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mightymewtron Angry babby Since: Oct, 2012
Angry babby
Jun 22nd 2018 at 6:39:21 PM •••

Here's possibly something new for the conventions folder. If anybody who's more familiar with the event and how it got made (and even the people behind it, since I'm not in this fandom) could elaborate, it should be added.

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Josef5678 Psshhh... Since: Jan, 2015
Psshhh...
Oct 13th 2017 at 10:38:47 AM •••

A Fanfiction section was recently added, seemingly without discussion. Should it be removed? After all, the former fanfiction page is in the Permanent Red Link Club.

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BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010
Oct 13th 2017 at 11:50:30 PM •••

I believe it should be removed. The Horrible Fanfiction subpage was cut for very good reasons.

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VAIAZ Since: Jun, 2015
Oct 14th 2017 at 8:09:00 AM •••

I removed it for flamebaiting. Posting this kind of content can be very controversial, for the same reasons the Fanfiction subpage was removed.

MrFister Since: Feb, 2013
May 13th 2017 at 9:03:05 PM •••

Should we expand the conventions folder to also include festivals? I've been keeping an eye on the Fyre Festival disaster and feel it would be a worthy addition to this page, but I don't think creating a new folder would be the right option when a similar one already exists.

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supergod Since: Jun, 2012
May 14th 2017 at 6:34:08 AM •••

It's already in the music section.

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Yellow-Spider-Kitty Since: Apr, 2015
Apr 23rd 2017 at 11:38:39 AM •••

Would the Juicero count as horrible?

MartyD82 Since: Oct, 2011
Nov 23rd 2014 at 5:31:19 PM •••

Does anybody else think some of those restaurant examples should be removed? Amy's Baking Company is probably fine (although it does seem to be getting an ironic fandom thanks to its appearance on Kitchen Nightmares), but I don't see anything about Nello that would qualify it as this trope. One negative review does not make a restaurant So Bad Its Horrible, especially since the restaurant's user reviews on sites like Yelp.com seem to indicate that the food falls more under So Okay, It's Average. And, as for the ridiculous prices, I think using that as an argument violates the condition of "merely being offensive" not being enough. Same for the Captain John's example (plus, if the restaurant used to be good, then I would think that if anything it belongs under something like Fallen Creator).

Not so sure about the TGI Friday's example, since the arguments/complaints certainly seem to qualify it, but given that Friday's is a chain...

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supergod Since: Jun, 2012
Jun 20th 2016 at 5:24:49 AM •••

I'm cutting it. While it seems a borderline case, even the negative Yelp reviews have people claim the main problem is the prices.

TGI Fridays should never qualify. It's popular.

Honestly, unless we're talking about health violations that are never fixed or the worst staff or management ever as the main issue, tastes in food and restaurants are way too subjective, and they can't really have "objective" criteria in the same way a film, book or song can.

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AlanPalgut Since: Apr, 2012
Aug 3rd 2015 at 3:16:26 PM •••

Any idea of other vehicles besides aircraft? I had several ideas on trains:

  • The Decapod (2-10-0), at least when it was first produced in the 1880's. Unless The World Is Not Ready, it belongs here.
  • The AA20-1, the sole non-articulated locomotive with seven driving axles (its Whyte notation — or wheel configuration — is 4-14-4) and built by the Soviet Union. An attempt to Follow the Leader on locomotives with more than eight driving wheels (particularly the 4-12-2 design of the Union Pacific's 9000-series), the main differences were 1) having another driving axle and trailing axle and 2) being at the Russian gauge of 5' as opposed to the standard 4'8 1/2". A poor wheelbase, with the axles too close together, doomed the locomotive to failure.
  • The Kitson-Still steam/diesel hybrid, proof that hybrids with steam are really bad. A few trials on the LNER was all it had before it was withdrawn and eventually scrapped.
  • The 6-2-0 wheel arrangement, putting the weight on the three leading axles rather than on the driving axle. In Great Britain, only one locomotive of this wheel arrangement, the Liverpool of 1848, was built; and in the United States it fared no better, as many were rebuilt in the 4-4-0 wheel arrangement. Very few locomotives have more than four driving wheels, and no more would have six until the Pennsylvania Railroad introduced its S1 class in the late 30's.

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ergeis Since: Apr, 2011
Mar 10th 2015 at 1:14:59 AM •••

Does You Tube Poop belong here?

Saying that there's some YTP videos that are not up to standard is like saying certain types of feces taste worst than the usual. I won't hide the fact that I hate that fandom which is why I'm leaving this decision to someone who can maintain an unbiased point of view.

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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Mar 10th 2015 at 1:32:48 AM •••

Some of them might. All of them, not likely.

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sanfranman91 Since: Jan, 2012
Dec 20th 2014 at 9:30:30 PM •••

Does anyone think we should start a sports section? I think it should be dedicated to terrible, short-lived leagues, teams with notorious seasons, or players that stood out for being especially awful (in ability and/or ethics). Two examples I can think of right off the bat:

  • Ali Dia's tenure in Southampton. Dia's a non-league forward who conned his way into joining the squad by having a friend impersonate George Weah and lie about his past experience playing for club and country. This got him a one-month contract, leading to an appearance as a substitute for the Saints in an English Premier League match against Leeds United. Dia was, in Matt Le Tissier's words, "like Bambi slipping on ice" and was thoroughly dominated by the Leeds players, ultimately causing him to be substituted off the pitch. He disappeared back to non-league football after that match and is forever mocked by Saints fans for being a liar. Here is a Guardian article and a few interesting videos on the matter.
  • Derby County in the 2007-2008 Premier League season. Awful managers, squads filled with players out of their depths, and poor ownership led the Rams to 29 losses and only 11 points throughout the entire season. To this day, they are still statistically the worst team to have ever played in Premier League.

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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Dec 21st 2014 at 1:33:58 AM •••

We did have Horrible.Sports, but it was put in the Permanent Red Link Club because it was completely extraneous.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
sanfranman91 Since: Jan, 2012
Dec 21st 2014 at 9:20:54 AM •••

Ah. Okay, then I guess those additions won't be added to this subsection. Thanks for the heads-up, Septimus.

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sanfranman91 Since: Jan, 2012
Nov 19th 2014 at 7:29:53 AM •••

Anyone interested in adding the Potato Express? The infomercial is deceiving and the product will leave potatoes raw in the middle after their suggested four minute cooking time. With a busted insulation system, the fabric getting disgustingly wet after a single use, and failure to cook potatoes in the advertised time I think it qualifies.

Here's Mike J's thoughts on it if you need more info.

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Keet96 Good Hunter Since: Aug, 2013
Good Hunter
Jun 23rd 2014 at 8:08:13 AM •••

We should add Jesus Is Savior.Com to websites. Badly thought out arguments, plain lies and bad design abounds.

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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Sep 1st 2014 at 9:19:43 AM •••

Seems like a case for inclusion. We'll need a somewhat detailed writeup, of course.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
harryhenry It's either real or it's a dream Since: Jan, 2012
It's either real or it's a dream
Jun 21st 2014 at 10:43:33 PM •••

Here's hydrixes attempt to recreate a Web Video section:

    Web Videos 
  • All Beiber Haters Suck’s video called "larmankiller sucks and Justin Bieber rules" might possibly be the worst case of trying to be a Moral Guardian on the internet . Aside from the fact that he makes spelling errors constantly, he also outright insults the Justin Bieber fanbase's own intelligence (by saying that he does not even know who Walt Disney is). He also makes insults during other fanbases during the mean time (such as saying that Mickey Mouse has always been for preschoolers), does use some extreme Fridge Logic (such as when he said that larkmankiller brainwashed a former belieber named omegadeltazero2 with powder) and comes off as extremely hypocrite (he criticizes larkmankiller for not showing his face, but the creator of the video (All Justin Beiber Haters Suck) only showed text during the entire video). With all that in mind, it should not suprize that it is one of the rare youtube video's with 0 likes.
  • "all justin bieber haters suck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!". This is a video in which the creator (bieberluvr1234) adresses the haters of Justin Bieber and says that they should stop hating on Justin Bieber. Aside from having no actual arguments provided (the only thing she said was that his music was good {which she showed my letting the audience show a music video of him within the awful video quality she had} and that he looks beautiful, which is very subjective to begin with), she also outright insults the haters of Jusin Bieber(especially the female ones) (for being lesbian, fat and ugly). At times she even goes completely out of character.
  • Dafawfuliser’s top 11 wario master in disguise bosses just has to be on here because it is so boring to watch. He talks so slowly and points out even the most obvious of obvious. It could have been a decent list because of its decent choices and reasoning, but all of the above problems just make it painful to watch or listen to.
  • Darksydephil is already a controversial Let's Player, but he set himself a new low with his 2013 Christmas special, a Grinch parody which serves as nothing more than a ego-stroking middle finger directed at his Hatedom. The video is filled with horrible rhyming, juvenile insults, and acting and costuming that makes even Chris Bores look moderately professional. Phil's detractors are depicted as basement-dwelling Trolls who are jealous of Phil's Internet "fame" (using the word very lightly) and make "shitting on him the goal of their lives" by flagging all his videos and making long montages of him failing. This is followed by an awful song and dance number that not only has atrocious singing and lyrics with even more terrible rhymes (ie. he rhymes 'trolling' with 'wife'), but outright threatens his detractors ("If I could choose between being filthy rich or going back in time to prevent your birth, fill up the Delorian~!"). Phil then goes full-on Gary Stu when he reads encouraging Christmas fan mail, complete with a sappy rendition of "Silent Night" and a disclaimer stating that their totally real letters he received. He then states that gaming is about having fun and not popularity, and that "you'll just be a dick" if you hate on (his) playthroughs. This is completely undermined by not only the fact that Phil spends several other videos whining about low views and non-existent game bugs, but by the fact that he just made a mean-spirited 9-minute video trashing his haters. Hypocrite, much?
  • The TUH! This is about a little kid that rants about Toy Story and is considered to be one of the worst rants ever. No arguments are in sight for this one (although he tries), all he does is starting to formulate what he is trying to say (although failing miserably, as you could guess by the title of this video). After it he plays with a fart soundboard, with still nothing interesting to come out of his mouth. It should come as no suprise that after him saying to himself that what he did was rude that he said without reason that Toy Story needs to die.
  • The Pissed Off Angry Gamer has made three video's. All of them so awful that they deserve to be mentioned here.
    • His review of the Xbox360 (which he calls the shitbox 360). The intro is already 1 minutes and 30 seconds long, but it just gets worse, up to degrees that few people can comprehend what he is saying. The line at the end could have saved it, but it is completely undermined by the fact that the game and the consoles he reviewed were not even that bad to begin with.
    • His review of the Nintendo Gamecube (which he calls the nintendo shitcube). Not only is the video quality very "very" awful, but so is the video itself. He needs an overly long time to form his phrases, destroys his console at the end of the video without you even being able to understand why and does inexplicable Critical Research Failure (such as saying that nobody will defend the nintendo shitcube).
    • His review of Contra 4 is however easily his worst. He shows you only briefly the game and tells you that he hates this game just because it does not have a Multiple Lives cheat code and that you have limited lives. Than he proceeds to eat the cartridge in a very terribly photoshopped manner. Thankfully he falls from his chair at the end of the video.
  • The first season of Crtl + Alt + Del: The Animated series. While season 2 has a few half-decent episodes (only from 1 to 3) and moments in its own right (which were few and far between after the third episode), the episodes of the first season are just awful beyond belief. The animation could already have been done with microsoft paint and powerpoint, but most episodes also it suffers from the main character (Ethan) being the kind of jerk the ‘Your mom hates Dead Space’ commercials were designed for and the other characters having no comedic value whatsoever. Any kind of actually decent plot even suffers from the fact that most episodes only air for 5 minutes (there are only 2 exceptions, episode 6 & 7 which shows Ethan at his very worst and episodes 10, 11 and 12 whose plot is blatantly ripping off ‘’Star Wars’’ . The other episodes (those not involving Ethan) are just as bad, with episode 5 being random takes and unfunny pot shots and episode 9 showing some of the very worst visual humor ever.
  • Pimpinmast3r DX is considered to be one of the worst ranters and one of the worst countdown artists ever made. His output clearly shows why.
  • While smackaderp is a decent youtube channel, you will have to find hard to see anyone who defends his top 10 most overrated games. The whole countdown is nothing more than a mixture of obtuse Fridge Logic, stuff that he said just because someone else said it and spots on list with them having no information whatsoever. Combine this with painful visuals and you have a recipe that fits this trope well.
  • Sponge Bob Shiting Plz has made some really bad video’s.
  • superflipper76 is considered to be a great countdown artist. Even so he made some very awful ones early in his career and Top Ten Worst Video Game Endings is considered tob e the pinnacle of that. It shows some pretty decent endings, but he keeps just arguing like a devil advocate that those endings are somehow bad. Even Super Flipper 76 later on said that it was the perfect example of how not to make a countdown.
  • veryinvalid's review of Mega Man 9 entitled "Mega Man 9 sucks fucking balls" is considered to be one of the worst video game reviews of the internet. Already the "intro" of the video (which features him twisting around with his balls, a random shot of his hair and him Flipping the Bird in slow motion shows that you are going to see something horrible, but it just gets worse from there. Later on in his video he keeps talking about high school (and ignores his review completely), makes very offensive remarks (such as him saying that he outright does not care how many soldiers died in Iraq). He also died on purpose multiple times and blames the game for all of his mistakes. Worst of all, he says that he is a huge megaman fan at the beginning of the video, but not only does he make errors against the Canon of the series, he also later on states that he outright hates the series. It all ties up so well that at the end of the video he gives the middle finger towards youtube and everyone who watched his video.

supernintendo128 Weeaboo extraordinare Since: Feb, 2013
Weeaboo extraordinare
Apr 17th 2014 at 11:58:00 AM •••

Does my entry really insults Sweden's culture:

  • Surströmming is considered one of the most disgusting foods of all time and is especially infamous for its horrible smell. Surströmming is a fermented rotting fish in a can produced in Sweden that sits in an absolutely disgusting smelling juice. The smell is so bad, that most people throw up just by smelling it. It's so bad, that Ashens refuses to taste it let alone open a can of it.

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MinimumRage Minimum Rage Since: May, 2009
Minimum Rage
Apr 19th 2014 at 8:18:12 PM •••

I'd argue that the entry on Haribo jelly beans should be at least rethought—the issue isn't strictly related to their product; artificial sweeteners generally cause explosive diarrhea when consumed excessively, and near every brand of sugar-free jelly beans has a warning about it.

Linkrulezall Since: Jul, 2011
Jan 6th 2014 at 9:37:34 PM •••

Is this really necessary to have here? It (and the folder it is contained within) seems like nothing more than a retread of the Real Life section of Crappy Carnival. Did we not relocate Horrible/Cars to the real life section of The Alleged Car for this same exact reason?

  • Lapland New Forest, which opened briefly in the United Kingdom in December 2008. Visitors to their website were promised a spectacular Christmas experience, only to find a bare field with a handful of overpriced rides and concessions, a broken ice rink, and entertainers in unconvincing snowman and elf outfits - all after paying theme park prices for tickets. Unsurprisingly, this resulted in numerous credit card chargebacks and a fraud conviction for the park's owners, not to mention Santa and his helpers being beaten up by angry guests. The director is also becoming an example of Never My Fault, blaming the park's failure on crowd manipulation and slanderous media. The Other Wiki even states that the attractions largely consisted of a single billboard depicting the nativity, lights dangling from trees, mistreated animals in chains, a broken ice rink, empty garden sheds (previously described as log cabins by the website) and a very poorly decorated Santa's grotto.

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Furian1996 Since: Sep, 2013
Mar 12th 2014 at 3:42:45 PM •••

Would these two blogs qualify as So Bad, It's Horrible?

http://yourstuffsucksbigtime.blogspot.com http://yourcartoonsucks.blogspot.com

The author establishes himself as a prick (he's like Caustic Critics such as the Angry Video Game Nerd and the Nostalgia Critic, except totally unlikeable and completely unfunny), and the blogs are larded with some rather questionable choices (Toy Story?!? WTF?!?) to pick on.

kenyastarflight Kenya Starflight Since: Jun, 2009
Kenya Starflight
Nov 4th 2013 at 10:47:31 AM •••

Question — can conventions be put under the "other" heading for the So Bad It's Horrible trope? Or is that just begging for a flame war? I notice restaurants got removed from the Horrible page, so I wasn't sure if adding Las Pegasus Unicon 2013 would be acceptable or not...

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ABLb0y Since: Nov, 2010
Feb 24th 2013 at 2:24:01 AM •••

Anyone else think we should put the Westboro Baptist Church under organistations? Y'know, that group of nutters who picket people's funerals waving around signs saying things like 'Thank god for 9/11' and 'Fags die, god laughs.'

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thebobmaster Since: Jan, 2001
Apr 30th 2013 at 10:54:37 PM •••

Sorry for the late reply, but no. No real-life organizations, especially groups like WBC. It's just a flame war waiting to happen. I don't agree with their politics or methods, but any real-life anything getting declared SBIH should not happen.

Why do most of the cute characters in anime have to be guys, or have breasts the size of my head?-myself
SamMax Since: Sep, 2011
Jan 24th 2013 at 5:31:53 PM •••

For Apps, should we remove the apps that are games? As it is, I see a Super Mario 3D Land Mockbuster game on both here and the Video Games page.

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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Dec 31st 2012 at 2:05:09 AM •••

Cutting this and putting it here for now. Judging by You Tube videos, it's not that bad.

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flamemario12 Since: Sep, 2010
Dec 31st 2012 at 8:06:00 PM •••

Whoops, I should put it to the theater page instead.

Still, most peoples on Youtube complain about how childish even was compare to the show itself. Their rear legs looks broken, only Twilight Sparkle, Applejack and Rainbow Dash appear. And the voices. It have more than 2,000 dislike out of 1,000 likes. Even those who like are those who find it So Bad, It's Good. .... I guess only Newborn Uglies deserve to be So Bad, It's Horrible.

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