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YMMV: Dot A 2
  • Acceptable Targets: The playerbase, like all MOBAs, have a seething hatred for all people Brazilian or Russian due to a Vocal Minority who troll games going "Huehuehue" or going onto the American servers and demanding them to speak Russian, plus those who simply joining English-speaking ladders and can't communicate with their team.
  • Alternate Character Interpretation: The Narrator seems to regard the Courier as a being of pure evil.
  • Anti-Climax Boss: The grand final game of The International 4 tournament between Newbee and Vici Gaming has Newbee disposing of Vici Gaming in less than 90 minutes despite the match being best of 5. Much less than the standard grand final match of 3 hours.
  • Base Breaker: This is a MOBA community so it is no surprise that changes will rarely be universally accepted upon.
    • Jakiro used to be a relatively mediocre nuker with a nice passive and pretty good at pushing, but overlooked among better options. Then came the 6.75 patch where his Ice Path spell was changed to be one of the best non-ultimate stuns in the game (2.2 seconds in a 1100 range!), while also dealing damage and being cheap in mana. Jakiro overnight went from rarely ever picked to a staple, and drew cries of being a Game Breaker.
    • Come 6.81, however, his stun's damage is reduced to a mere 50 at all levels, but Dual Breath now does 360 damage over 5 seconds instead of two impacts of 140 damage each, then 80 more damage over 4 seconds, and that change is a Base Breaker in itself.
    • Dragon Knight gets some flack for having the longest Level 1 stun spell in the game, at 2.5 seconds. The trade off is that it's melee range until level 6, but it can chain stun with something else like the above Jakiro and turn a tough lane into a complete massacre.
    • Invoker: One of the most powerful heroes in the game whose power justifies his high skill ceiling or an overcomplicated Jack of All Stats? The debate comes down to the idea that Invoker is as strong as the player behind him: He has ten amazing spells but you need to be able to combo them properly and Invoke them quickly for it to pay off.
      • Fell out of favor when 6.75 nerfed him after the second International. He took too long to come online compared to more focused gankers and teamfight heroes who became useful far sooner. He's started to come back into favor with 6.79, which allowed him to Invoke two spells with one level of Invoke. It makes his skill builds more flexible by letting you skip Invoke at level 7 and gives more option for laning-phase plays. That as well as the craze of "build Hand of Midas on everything" letting him get to his magical level 12-13 much faster.
    • There's also the classic MOBA debate of whether there should be a surrender option. The closest thing to it is the "Game is now safe to leave" feature that kicks in when someone leaves the game. The side favoring a proper surrender option says it's better to just surrender to an assured loss and move on, while the other says the option would ruin the game's sense of competitiveness and make the potential for comebacks even worse than it currently is.
    • In April, Valve introduced a mute system where players above a certain report threshold lose the ability to communicate with the rest of their team. The main dev site was embroiled in a flame war. It was semi-remedied when Valve let them use the Chat Wheel to convey basic ideas such as "Missing Mid" into chat and limited the number of pings they could use in a row (usually out of spite to the mute), although the mute system still harms team communication and anyone can report anyone for anything they want.
    • The game's 2 main play styles Teamfighting, and Split Pushing, respectively refered to by their critics as Deathballing and Rat Doto. This is especially brutal between players of pushers like Nature's Prophet and Broodmother and those of initiators like Magnus and Enigma, whose favorite heroes are really good at one and meh at best at the other.
    • The introduction of the comeback mechanic in 6.82 has caused outrage over the community because most gankers suffer a tremendous drop in win rate while carries got a steep rise in win rate as more net worth and total experience means more bounty and experience to the killer, it can even reach up to 1000 gold for a single kill. It's so bad that a quick patch has been released in only 3 days with another patch in a week that tweaks the comeback formula to manageable levels by giving a cap for the net worth differences and reduces the kill streak bounty.
  • Character Tiers: While there isn't exactly an "Official" tier list, there is general consensus on the quality of most heroes. Cries of anguish from teammates when they see someone pick Meepo in a pub is the most evident example of this.
    • It's worth noting that these can vary widely depending on the latest patch, region, skill level, and even individual games as a draft unfolds. In the competitive scene there are about 10-15 top picks at any one time, a wider roster of about 30-50 that are picked up often but not always, 20-30 who will are picked rarely, and at least 10-15 heroes are seen as inferior to other options or only useful in gimmicky draftsp
  • Complacent Gaming Syndrome:
    • Done by the Bots. Depending on the AI difficulty levels, after Practicing with Bots for a few times, you may notice that the AI will generally pick only a certain subset of heroes and never experiment with other heroes. This may reflect how real-life players stick to their strongest heroes, but it's more that they're limited by the fact the "Bot Guy" who coded the bots had long since left the Dota 2 team for other projects at Valve and never coded bots for more complicated heroes.
    • Bots are generally seen as useless beyond a certain level of mechanical skill anyways, as they are unable to react to the subtle nuances of the game that humans do. There's a few patches floating around to remedy this for those who want to avoid the notorious player base.
    • There's also something to be said about real players who go for the same item builds and skill builds every time they play a hero, disregarding whenever a different build would far better suit the match at hand. For example:
      • Rushing Hand of Midas on all heroes.
      • Always building Jack of All Stats heroes like Vengeful Spirit, Abaddon, Tusk, Naga Siren, Silencer etc. as carries, even though there are already 3-4 carries and no supports on the same team.
    • Jungling with your heroes is usually inefficient compared to laning as experience and gold are earned more slowly there than in lane (except for Enigma, who can jungle very efficiently with Demonic Conversion, Lucifer, who can gain some useful abilities by using Devour on neutral creeps, and Chen and Enchantress, who need jungle creeps for Holy Persuasion and Enchant). However, pub players like to jungle for no good reason other than fear of being harassed and killed by the opposing heroes, which makes no difference if you get ganked and weaken your lanes. Pro players only do this if they have no other choice such as being harassed out of lane.
    • Pubs tend to stick to some hero picks. Some of the more common picks in pubs include Sniper, Pudge, Mirana, Wraith King, and Invoker. Learning to counter these heroes is a good way to perform better.
  • Contested Event: The fourth International year of Dota 2 is not as well received as the third year's International according to the stream viewers. Common complaints include the poor format, poor stream quality, the grand finalist being revealed too soon, little to no quirks in the caster panels, and overall just treating as if it is a professional sports without some kind of humour. The anti-climatic grand finals and fan-favorite teams being abruptly eliminated does not help favors.
  • Crack Pairing: Technically any pairing outside those characters who explicitly are tied together; no hero has a response to every other hero.
    • Faceless Void and Phantom Assassin area moderately popular couple, for whatever reason. Perhaps because they're both naturally evasive?
    • Phantom Assassin and Omniknight are another popular pairing, particularly in the Russian fanbase.
    • Fanarts also seem to like pairing Sven with Rylai and the reasoning may be a little more off. They can't be the only blue-colored heroes in the game. Although there are small bases like how Rylai compliments on Sven if they're alliesnote , and Sven isn't so big on killing an enemy-Rylai if they're enemiesnote , it's still pretty crack seeing that they don't even interact in back-story (and Rylai seems to have more links with Ymir) (although gameplay-wise, Sven really benefits on Rylai's support).
    • Not to be one-upped by her sister, Lina also has a Crack Pairing with Batrider. Maybe because they play with fire and Batrider has more 'kill quips' on Lina than any other ladies.
  • Crossover Ship: Not officially, but if the fandom is to make a crossover art between DOTA and League of Legends, Davion the Dragon Knight is inevitably going to be paired with Shyvana the Half Dragon.
  • Ensemble Darkhorse: Juggernaut, Axe, Nature's Prophet, Death Prophet, Tusk, Lina and Storm Spirit all have announcer packs. While every hero has their fans, some other universally liked heroes include Rubick and Axe.
    • Heroes that are pretty Rated M for Manly also tends to be universally liked, such as the aforementioned Axe, as well as Sven and Skeleton/Wraith King.
    • The Goblin Techies, a hero as yet unreleased in the sequel, are the most anticipated and demanded heroes in the fanbase. "Added Techies", is a fairly common joke patch note in the fandom. Though many others are just a quick to point out that "Give Techies" is more of a joke than a genuine desire for their mines can be hidden everywhere on the map. They are finally going to be released after The International 2014, just without the 'Goblin' moniker. And they immediately got their announcer pack.
    • Meepo, although he's sort of a Joke Character.
    • After their stories were reworked into sister-rivals, both Lina and Rylai start to dominate the DOTA fanworks.
  • Fan-Preferred Couple: Slark/Naga Siren is a popular couple among fan artists.
    • Fanarts like to pair Sven with Rylai despite how 'crack' it seems (see Crack Pairing), and put him up with Juggernaut as Heterosexual Life-Partners despite having even less quips to each other.
  • Game Breaker: As balance patches come and go, sometimes what seems like a small change can hugely affect the overall prowess of heroes, especially in the competitive scene where skill levels and team compositions can magnify specific advantages. Other heroes will become popular for a month or two as they seem unstoppable, then gradually fade away again as the metagame adapts to their counters. This is standard practice for Dota, and has been the case for years.
    • Some heroes are more than fad-picks in the competitive scene, though, and tend to be dealt with more thoroughly in the balance patches. Oftentimes, they end up coming back into the meta someway or another. The most notable examples are Io, Batrider, and Dark Seer, who remain staple picks despite continual tweaks. More recently, Mirana, Morphling, Naga Siren, and Nyx Assassin have continued to show up despite being nerfed.
    • While many carry heroes require farm to become effective, a handful have very potent spells to help them out in early teamfights. This led to a period throughout 2013 where the dominant support heroes (Gyrocopter, Naga Siren, and Alchemist being the stand outs) were designed to be carries, as they had the utility of regular supports with the added ability to turn into damage dealers later in the game. With nerfs to the early potentcy of these carries and dedicated support heroes overall got more buffs to help compensate for this, support carries have more or less disappeared until 2014 where they made a return.
    • Many builds in Ability Draft mode can be absolute game breakers, but special mention should be given to Meepo's ultimate, Divided We Stand. Countless videos have demonstrated how horribly broken that ulti is in combination with other skills, until Valve had to remove Meepo from this mode in the 6.81 patch.
  • Internet Backdraft: The 2013 Diretide event fiasco, which led to one of the most vicious and widespread internet shitstorms in the history of the community.
  • Most Annoying Sound: Just about anything Storm Spirit does. Imagine this going on for over an hour: "I'm over here!", "BLOOOOW THE MAN DOWN!", "Touche!", "ZAAAAAP!", "BLOW THE MAN DOWN!", "Puddin pop!", "I'm over here!" "Where's the party?" "Who's that handsome devil?" "I'm over here!" "Where's the party?" "ZAAAAAAP!" "I'm over here!" "Over here now!" "Where's the party?" "ZAAAAAAAAP!". On the other hand, Storm Spirit has quite the sizable fandom who considers his voice to be a strong contender for Most Wonderful Sound.
    • The same cannot be said for Windranger, whose quotes include such nuggets of banality as "You hit... a girl!" "Why do you hate gingers so?" "Bury me... beneath the tree" "Ooh, now I get to shoot stuff!" and of course "Your tiny featherless arrows can't hurt me, Sniper!"
    • Pudge. The main problem is that his ult is heard globally, so even when nothing may be happening in your section of the map, you're going to be hearing "Fresh meat!" over and over again when the Pudge player is particularly good.
    • A teammate spamming pings on top of you and constantly using the "Well Played!" quick-chat whenever you make a mistake. Or do something they perceive as a mistake. Or did not join them in their mistake and made them look like the only idiot for dying. Or died saving their ass but it looks like you were feeding.
    • Whenever you predict a victory before the game begins, most heroes (except Wisp and Phoenix) will declare that the game is in their bag. Sound simple enough other than Skywrath Mage whose long, and obnoxious victory taunt is grating and annoying to the player's ears.
    • In fact, this is a staple of heroes voiced by TJ Ramini. All of them gets long victory taunt too:
  • Most Wonderful Sound: When Doom kills Storm Spirit, you might get this gem.
    • Whenever the announcer states that you deny your own tower, you know you deny the enemy most of the potential gold they would have gotten.
    • "RAMPAGE." note 
    • Chen's ultimate, Hand of God, plays one note for each ally it heals. Played together, this results in an angelic F#/Gb major chord in-game.
      • In fact, most AoE heals in the game produce major chords if they affect several targets: Omniknight's Guardian Angel makes a C major chord; the Mekansm item, a B major chord.
    • If the hero in question is on your team, the hum of Enigma's Black Hole, the boom of Magnus's Reverse Polarity, the rumble of Sand King's Epicenter, the crack of Tidehunter's Ravage or the crash of Earthshaker's Echo Slam are probably the most encouraging sounds one could hear in the middle of a teamfight.
    • Hearing the slot machine make Jackpot sounds when you manage the amazing skillshot of a 4X Multicast on your Fireblast or Ignite as Ogre Magi.
    • Phoenix doing a triumphant screech once the battle begins and again, when/if his team is victorious.
  • Narm / Narm Charm: Some of the heroes have really bad voice work. Luna in particular has become memetic for this gem.
  • Nausea Fuel: Pudge is one of the most disgusting characters in video game history.
  • Rescued from the Scrappy Heap:
    • Alchemist used to be rarely seen in matches due to a crippling reliance on farm, aided by the fact one of his skills does nothing but give him extra gold, and the fact that enemies could see how charged his stun was. However, thanks to 6.75's immense buffs to him, he became a much better hero all around. Considering that he was a Joke Character before said patch, that's saying something. He got nerfed 6.79 after being a little too popular at TI 3, but it's not to the point that he's unplayable. He just has to farm at least one health-giving item before he can get damage because his ult gives massive health regen instead of bonus health now.
    • Spirit Breaker received a massive buff in 6.75, causing him to go from barely seen in pubs to the local Game Breaker for how amazing he was at ganking. Nerfed in 6.79 so that his ult could be stopped while casting and he was put somewhere between back in the Scrappy Heap and balanced.
    • Naga Siren and Morphling, after being widely detested for being ubiquitous at The International 2012, suffered heavy nerfs in 6.75. However, they slowly worked their way back into the meta by the time of The International 2013 where they became crowd pleasers.
    • Lycanthrope was equally detested during The International 2012 but almost never seen during the tournament. Because he had an almost 100% Ban Rate across the event. He was given nerfs to where he snowballed the hardest: the jungle. His ability to jungle was crippled, and his reign of terror upon pub games ended. Now he is a really, really good pusher but not to obscene levels if you know how to handle him early in the game.
    • Heaven's Halberd, a decent mid-game item with evasion and the ability to Disarm a hero from attacking, has found a niche as a siutational support item for its utility in teamfights. It found this favor after Manta Style was changed to no longer dispel its Disarm. But because BKB still removes Disarm, it's lumped with Rod of Atos as "Support Items that sound amazing in theory but just come up to snuff in practice."
  • Sacred Cow: Comparing this game to another MOBA will get you obliterated on certain forums and imageboards. As can referring to it as a "MOBA" at all, as most fan prefer to just call it Dota.
  • Scrappy Mechanic: For new players; Creep Pulling can be a large hurdle to overcome when learning to play support heroes. You need to stack the creeps by taking their aggro and dragging them from their camp a few seconds before the "refresh" time of a new minute. If you do not do this and just pull a single creep camp in, it will push the lane out and make your lane partner unhappy.
    • S-s-s-silence!
    • For every discussion there is about adding Goblin Techies to the game, there will be a person who brings up finding a random Clarity/Salve/Iron Branch on the ground and dying to their mine trap when you try to investigate.
    • Evasion can be this in certain situations where a fairly straightforward encounter becomes equal parts confusing and frustrating. (Brewmaster's passive gives him natural evasions, while one of his skills adds more "miss Chance" on top of it, meaning Phantom Assassin basically never hit him when she normally could.)
      • Faceless Void's Backtrack deserves a special mention: Not only does it dodge attacks, but also dodges the damage from every single spell and active (but not secondary effects) and it can't be countered by True Strike (Monkey King Bar's passive). The passive is also hated a lot since Void can hit every time if he has an MKB, but the opponent can still miss an attack on him even with True Strike.
    • Linken's Sphere can be one sometimes. Some abilities, such as line stuns (Jakiro's Ice Path for instance) will be blocked if targeted on the unit but work if they're targeted on the ground in a way that still hits them. This is a matter of no small annoyance, for both stunners and Linken's holders.
  • “Stop Having Fun” Guys: This is one of the worst games for this, practically being a Wretched Hive. Alleviated somewhat by the report system, which attempts to put the worst offenders in a "Low Priority Queue" pool or gives them communication bans. LPQ matches them solely with other members of the pool - ideally rude/unpleasant players, but also some of who've had bad teams get mad at them irrationally, or who had internet issues that weren't their fault - and you have to play five matches in it to get out. Communication bans ban them from using text or voice chat for a day or two.
  • Suspiciously Similar Song: One of Main Menu themes sounds quite a lot like the opening segments of "Fithos Lusec Wecos Vinosec" from Final Fantasy VIII.
  • They Changed It, Now It Sucks:
    • Fans of the original game often react poorly to changes that deviate "too far" from how the original game was. Even something as simple as names and appearances, which often are changed for copyright reasons, cause backlash among veterans and newer fans alike. Examples that come to mind are Brewmaster (originally known as Pandaren Brewmaster) being turned from a standard Panda to a Red Panda, Doombringer having his name changed to Doom, and Bristleback having his name be Bristlebog during development But ultimately reverted. More recently Windrunner became Windranger, and Necrolyte to Necrophos. Skeleton King got an entire event and game mode based around his remake into Wraith King (though that change seems to be received more positively due to Wraith King's copious amounts of ego and swagger). It seems that Blizzard has their finger on the lawsuit trigger the moment Valve slips up.
    • Patch 6.79. The changes to buybacks, the day and night cycle, courier, and certain changes to heroes did not rub well with more than a few fans. That mostly went away when the patch actually dropped, but more than a few people still wonder why Night Vision has to be near universally crap.
    • Averted with Storm Spirit's remodel. When it was initially discovered that he would receive a new model, the playerbase assumed the worst because they had grown fond of the originally derided design. When it was finally revealed though, the playerbase immediately changed its tone.
  • Tier-Induced Scrappy: Quite a few heroes are innately unbalanced in pub games, while others require massive amounts of skill to use effectively, rarely making their appearance in pub games simply because they're very difficult to use:
    • Meepo is a classic case of Difficult but Awesome; skilled Meepo players can reach the level cap and amass items long before any enemy carries are able to deal with them. The problem is that if only a single Meepo dies, all of them die, and illusion based heroes like Chaos Knight and Phantom Lancer can fill a similar role of swarming the enemy without being as vulnerable. Not helped when 6.79 patch initially looked like it would give him an interesting buff but turned out to mostly just make him worse at the time he's already bad.
    • Broodmother consistently had the lowest winrate in pubs and is almost completely ignored in pros simply because her spiderlings are free gold for anyone with Ao E nukes. Unlike other heroes with summons, who usually have one or two big strong summoned units, Broodmother relies on summoning a lot of very weak units and swarming heroes and structures with them. Rescued in 6.79 where her webs allow her to walk anywhere, and now she's got a much higher win rate than before.
    • Io was detested amongst Western pro players for essentially being a necessary ban in most professional games. 6.79 took the hero out of favor when its Tether ability no longer stunned enemy units that crossed it. Instead it is a 100% movement and attack speed slow, which means heroes can still retaliate with spells and item abilities.
    • Ursa is something of a one trick pony; he can apply massive physical burst but can be kited around easily. But if he has a Blink Dagger and is against particularly dim-witted players, he's a Lightning Bruiser with no equal.
    • Huskar was detested in 6.78 after his Berserker's Blood was changed to give him more Magic Resistance as his HP decreases. When combined with Ghost Scepter, which has an active that makes you immune to physical damage, he literally could not die unless you had Pure Damage which can be hard to come by, especially if he picks his hero after your team picked theirs. 6.79 made him almost instantly forgotten when he could no longer cast Burning Spear when ethereal, and is now a Scrappy in the lower tiers.
    • Nature's Prophet: if you ever turn your back on a tower for a minute, you can be sure that he will be applying pressure. Not helped by AdmiralBulldog of Alliance making the hero not simply popular, but near ubiquitous in pub games. If you see a Prophet in a pub, he will go to jungle, rush Hand of Midas, and then split push. He might go Orchid, Shadow Blade, Dagon or Necronomicon afterwards or use his ult well or poorly, but he will almost always go Jungle for his Midas regardless of how weak it makes his team's lanes.
    • Spirit Breaker during the 6.78 patch was broken in pubs because if his Charge connected it was a guaranteed 500~ magical damage as well as many infuriating seconds of being stunned. However, after his 6.79 nerf (Nether strike now uses cast animation that lacks magic immunity, along with a reduced base attack speed), his win rate plummeted to manageable levels.
    • Vanguard as an item is generally viewed as inferior to a Mekansm. Vanguard is more effective for damage reduction, but quickly falls off in effectiveness, doesn't offer anything to teammates, and generally isn't worth the investment. These days, it's seen as a situational item at best for heroes with damage return passives, like Axe and Spectre, or squishy agility carries in need of some quick health, such as Phantom Lancer and Riki.
    • There is perhaps no other hero more hated than Naga Siren. Her illusion from Mirror Image gives her massive split push potential, and allows her to farm at a ridiculous speed once she get her hands on a Radiance. Riptide gives her a solid farming and teamfight skill and enhances her split push even more. Ensnare is a disable that goes through BKB. And then you have her ridiculous ultimate, Song of the Siren which puts enemies to sleep for 7 seconds, effectively making her almost impossible to gank, able to set up teamfight combo, stop opponent from defending her push, AND isolate a BKB user.
    • During the 6.81 era, "meta" heroes such as Death Prophet, Shadow Shaman, and Razor gets a lot of hate thanks to their ability to push really fast especially when backed up by a fast Mekansm. However, the most hated of them all is by far Faceless Void. Commonly played as an initiator, Faceless Void's ultimate Chronosphere creates an area that stuns everyone touching it (allies included) except himself for several seconds while increasing his damage against enemies disabled by it and granting free movement inside it. Its low cooldown compared to other high-impact AoE initiation ultimates coupled with the rest of his Magic Immunity-piercing, damage-ignoring, mobility-granting kit makes Faceless Void a terror to oppose all throughout the game while scaling extremely well into the lategame with hard disables from Chronosphere and his passive chance to stun on attack. Void could thrive even in the offlane because of his high survivability yet low demand for items before becoming effective, only needing Power Treads, Mask of Madness and enough of his skills leveled to place proper Chronospheres and dominate fights.
    • Tinker is a shining example. His high skill cap yet low skill floor and powerful scaling through items results from his deceptively simple reset button ultimate, granting him map-wide presence, continuous repositioning (even into the treelines) and strong creep clearing. Allowed one or two items, a greedy Tinker can proceed to starve the entire map and both teams of farm, amassing items until he can do such feats as continuously Hex an enemy, two-shot enemies with Ethereal Blade and Dagon, suicide to deny himself at a lighter penalty than normal death or defend nigh-indefinitely against base sieges, agonizingly stalling out games, as he is not as good as breaking enemy high ground himself. Finally, his March of the Machines, already powerful area denial, damaged through even Magic Immunity, allowing him to recover easily from bad starts by clearing Ancient camps. As a result, in 6.82 he got brutally nerfed by not only having his third skill March of the Machines no longer work on immune units including ancients but also increase the mana cost for invoking Dagon and made Ethearal blade a projectile. The result: His win rate drops tremendously and he becomes from one of the most contested hero competitively to pretty much competitively ignored.
    • Split pushing heroes in general gets a lot of hate, such as the Phantom Lancer and Keeper of the Light combo, Lycanthrope, Tinker, and the above Nature's Prophet and Naga Siren.
  • Uncanny Valley:
    • Storm Spirit's original model was changed from the Pandaren for DotA into a rather weird looking human. His teeth looked like they weren't connected to his chest. His new model from the Spirit Update averts this.
    • Enchantress before a graphical update had a rather misshapen head, but such an adorable smile!

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