and became something like a tradition
in the franchise.
- Usagi's appearance in the show was in part an in-house Intercontinuity Crossover, since both franchises were published by Mirage Comics at the time. With Usagi Yojimbo moving to Dark Horse Comics and the Turtles franchise being purchased lock, stock, and barrel by Nickelodeon, this may be less likely. On the other hand...
- Not quite accurate. Usagi Yojimbo wasn't published by Mirage until the 90s, long after his appearance on the '87 cartoon, and the appearances on the 4Kids show happened well into the Dark Horse run. I suppose it would all depend on whether Nick and Stan Sakai are interested. (Stan owns UY and all related characters, not his current publisher.)
- Jossed by Stan... for now, at least.
- If he does appear, he'll be voiced by Roger Craig Smith, the current voice of Sonic the Hedgehog from the Sonic The Hedgehog media. It'll be a throwback to when he was voiced by the then-current voice of him, Jason Griffith, in the 2003 series.
- They're both Nick shows (yes, Kung Fu Panda is owned by Dream Works Animation, but still...), they're both CGI, and Kung Fu Panda takes place in an alternate universe Asia-counterpart populated by anthropomorphic animals, like Usagi Yojimbo did (allowing KFP to take UY's place in the Turtle guest appearances roster). Or...
Since Nick owns and airs both shows it's the perfect time to redeem the idea of a TMNT/Power Rangers crossover in animated form. Also it would be a great Shout Out
to the Power Rangers In Space
crossover where the TMNT appeared.
- We'd be lucky if the Gorangers appeared instead.
- Unlikely. Power Rangers (and the Next Mutation series) are both owned by Saban Brands, and are airing on NICK on a third-party basis.note
- Photos from filming of Power Rangers Megaforce show a box labeled "Donatello". And since it's from season 2, which is apparently a Gokaiger-esque anniversary series, there's a chance that the Next Mutation suits (presumably with this series' voices) may show up.
And her uncle is named August ("Auggie")
And so as the Wild West C.O.W.-Boys of Moo Mesa
Character Return Predictions.
- THE Krang will show up later on, and will be the master of the Kraangs.
- It's a possibility since it's revealed the Kraang are from another dimension (Dimension X?).
- Also, the episodes "Turtle Temper" and "It Came from the Depths" both feature members of the Kraang referring to what could be their superior. In the former, a Kraang mentions how they must show Vic's video of the Turtles "to Kraang", and the latter had a Kraang say "We must tell Kraang that Kraang's power cell was stolen from Kraang!" From the context of the two quotes, they could very well be referring to THE Krang. There's also a piece of concept art viewable on Fight the Foot after joining that depicts what appears to be Krang in his bubble walker on a monitor.
- Confirmed. The Krang from Dimension X will appear in the season finale of the show.
- Dogpound and Fishface will perish to the turtles at the end of season 1, and Bebop and Rocksteady replace them.
- And after their inevitable first failure, Shredder will have the two be led by Hun, thus he takes Krang's place from the original cartoon as leading the Terrible Trio.
- Or Bebop and Rocksteady will be the Kraang's equivalent to the Shredder's Dogpound and Fishface.
- Even better. They could work for Shredder alongside Dogpound and Fishface and the two pairs would act as each other's foils.
- April O' Neil will introduce Irma to the turtles later on and she'll develop a crush on Donatello.
- Irma's image has already appeared on April's phone!
- Some Utroms, related to the Kraang, show up. They go to war with the Kraang.
- And to differentiate them, the Utroms look like brains, while the Kraangs were stripped from their bodies leaving them as brains with eyes and mouths.
- The Utroms will have opposite views of the Kraang: In that while the Kraang probably don't seem to care to individualize (their disguises are all the same type of droll businessman) or learn about human customs and speech, the Utroms individualize themselves by assigning names, variate on their disguises, and are all too happy to learn human customs.
- Perhaps the Kraang isn't the name of species, but their faction with the Utroms being the same race but an opposing force
- They're probably indeed the name of a faction, but from Kraang's species that exist in their home dimension. The Kraang were banished to our dimension as punishment for their tyranny. And were stripped from their bodies as additional punishment or the result of cross-dimensional mutation.
- Karai will either be Shredder's Second or Miwa's bodyguard. Or Karai will be an alias used by Miwa.
- Karai might be Shredder's actual daughter in this continuity. She'll have some traits from Pimiko from TMNT vol. 3 by Image Comics.
- Confirmed. Karai refers to Shredder as her father at one point.
- That doesn't stop the possibility of her being Miwa, she could have been raised thinking that she is really Shredder's daughter.
- Karai will be the same age as April and the two will form a friendship until April learns who Karai really is.
- She'll be a mercenary akin to one-shot (two-shot?) character Lotus from the '87 cartoon.
- Casey Jones (confirmed for season two) will be an older character like Splinter and Shredder and is The Dreaded.
- Or he'll be aged down to a teenager like April was, leading to a Love Triangle between them and Donatello.
- Partially confirmed. Casey will be a teenager, but there's no news about a Love Triangle yet.
- Spike will be revealed as female and later end up mutating into Venus De Milo.
- Alternatively, Spike is a male and becomes Slash, while Splinter's daughter Miwa, who has been implied to be under Shredder's wing, has a Heel Face Turn after the Turtles tell her of her true father and mutates into Venus.
- The pizza boy becomes Pizzaface
- We know that they've got concept art for Rat King already, so I predict that also got affected by The Ooze, only instead of turning out like Splinter, he ended up a skeleton, perhaps showing how LUCKY Splinter was in his mutation.
- Leatherhead will likewise be affected by the Mutagen, and end up an Expy of the 2003 Leatherhead in being an ally (aquatic reptiles stick together), but still with feral crocodile instincts they have to watch out for.
- He'll have a Cajun accent and his feral side will say "I guh-rantee!"
- Baxter Stockman will be working with the Kraang, helping to upgrade their exoskeletons to fight the turtles, after he got rich off the mousers.
- And he'll later try to betray the Kraang, only to be punished for his treason by being mutated into a fly. A few fights with the Turtles later, he then has to rebuild himself as a cyborg as well after sustaining horrible injuries due to his fly-like vulnerability.
- Jossed. As of "Mousers Attack!" Baxter is still human and Shredder wants to keep him around as his personal Mad Scientist.
- Maybe when THE Krang shows up, Baxter gets mutated.
- Or maybe, he may invent a device that merged any living thing with him. If Michelangelo puts a fly into that device, Baxter will mutate into a fly!
- Irma appears and transforms into the mutant Quarry.
- Mona Lisa crops up as well.
- Ninjara might appear.
- Wingnut may appear!
- Bog: Swamp Demon from the comic could come up.
- Shredder will curbstomp the turtles when he first fights them. It seems to be a rule for the show's villains to show off how tough they are by beating the turtles in their first fight.
- Confirmed. In "The Gauntlet", The Shredder nearly kills the Turtles and doesn't let them get away until he is distracted by his top lieutenants Chris Bradford and Xever's mutations into Dogpound and Fishface.
- Ch'rell, the Utrom Shredder. What, you think being disintegrated by a giant laser could get rid of him? Guys like that always come back. He'll have his own story arc where the Turtles, the Kraang, and the native Shredder all team up to get rid of him.
- Agent Bishop, though he'll be portrayed as having a civilian persona and an FBI agent persona, with his civilian persona seeming to be a rather carefree guy, who will end up having Pizza with either one of the Turtles or April. His FBI agent persona would... Not be outright villainous, willing to do what's best for humanity, and he would actually listen to others' opinions and if there's a better way to do something, he'll accept it.
- Alopex from the IDW comic, at least in the toyline
- Hun will become Slash again.
- The Mighty Mutanimals will be formed, and Leatherhead, Tyler Rockwell, Pigeon Pete, Radical, Mondo Gecko, and Ray Fillet will be members.
- Ms. Campbell is rebuilt as Chromedome.
- The Pulverizer's real name might be Zach.
- Usub Gerstalk will appear as an Evil Counterpart to Leatherhead while simultaneously functioning as the 1987 version.
- Lord Dregg will appear, either as The Man Behind the Man and/or Bigger Bad to the leader of the Kraang or as the supernatural force of evil and sharing many traits with the Demon Shredder from TMNT 2003 series and/or with Null, corrupt corporate executive from Archie comics.
The pizza boy will be making several more appearances. Always at the wrong place at the wrong time.
He becomes a sort of Chew Toy
because of this.
- Sorta like the Cabbage Guy from Avatar The Last Airbender?
- Or Vinnie from Gargoyles!
- My thoughts exactly. Especially Vinnie. We see him with different jobs each time. And always gets fired, because of the Turtles and the villains they're fighting. He'll be fired as much as Jonesy from 6teen.
- Or the pizza boy gets mutated and becomes Pizza Face◊
The pizza boy in the pilot is Casey Jones
If the online comics are canon he's probably already operating as a vigilante, he's just working there part-time to fund his activities.
One of the turtles will have to pretend to be Raphael for some reason
And it's going to be Donatello. For obvious reasons
- Maybe they all will, as a nod to how in the original version they were all wearing red
The show will add a female turtle eventually.
But it won't be Venus. She'll be named after a renaissance artist (like the other Turtles) rather than a work.
At some point, Splinter will have to make a Sadistic Choice
between the turtles and Miwa.
- Even better, how about a Sadistic Choice between Miwa and April because by that point she'll probably have been trained as a ninja by Splinter?
April will start out like her Damsel-in-Distress 1987 self
But, after a few lessons in self defense from Splinter, will be able to handle herself in a fight.
- Which will lead to a Crowning Moment of Awesome on her part
- Confirmed. As of "Monkey Brains", Splinter will be training April in the ways of the ninja.
The Kraang's base is the Technodrome
The part visible from the ground in the second part of the pilot is only the top. The rest of it is burrowed underground.
One of the Turtles (maybe Mikey) will lampshade the way the Kraang talk.
It might go something like this:
Why do you keep talking like that?! Can't you just talk normal? A Kraang:
As I was saying before that which is not supposed to be here that is here has interrupted. Mikey:
* slaps forehead
Kind of done in "Metalhead":
Kraang!Metalhead: "The ones that which are called turtles will now be called turtles that are... DESTROYED!"
Michaelangelo: "Phew, I was really afraid at the beginning of the sentence, but then I sort of just lost interest towards the-"
Leo imitates Kraang speech pattern, possibly as a failed attempt at humor, in "TCRI" when April notes that there are humans working in the office building
which is also Kraang HQ.
Leo: Imagine if they knew who they were working for. The ones who are working for this place must punch the card that is known as the time card in the clock that is known as the clock of time.
Raph's pet turtle, Spike, will get bathed in mutagen.
Which will add a fifth turtle to the mix which means one of three things.
- Spike turns out to be Slash
- Spike turns out to be Tokka
- Spike turns out to be a certain female turtle.
- Spike simply grows larger but keeps the mentality of a normal turtle.
Mikey will remind him how revered he was in the Martial Arts world, leading to a Heel Realization
- Jossed. Bradford will become Dogpound and still work for Shredder.
- just because he gets turned into a mutant and works for the Shredder in more than one episode doesn't mean he can't pull a Heel Face Turn later.
- If anything he's become even more ruthless after his mutation.
The world of the 2012 TMNT was created as a direct result of Turtles Forever
Because it appears to be a mix of almost every known version of the Turtles thus far. "New" characters like Snakeweed, Dogpound, Fishface, and Spider Bytez are the result of the mutant army the Ch'rell Shredder created bleeding into the new reality.
- Or it could just be that the 2012 universe is simply another Alternate Universe alongside the original comics, the original TV series, the movies (which weren't mentioned in Turtles Forever, but still), and the 2003 series.
- The movies were referenced with still shots representing their universe during the Shredder's explanation of the TMNT multiverse (along with the OVA series).
- But did they show the 2012 series Turtles as a future cameo?
- No, because it hadn't happened yet. Like the WMG says, the 2012 universe was born as a result or Turtles Forever. Prior to that it hadn't existed yet.
Donatello will stop crushing on April at some point.
Splinter intentionally put the turtles in the ooze
Him wanting to use them as assassins against the Shredder is part of the original comic versions canon. Also, it seems to be hinted at in the opening.
- But at some point, he decided against it. He started seeing them as his sons. Instead he trains them to protect themselves, in case they do encounter the Shredder.
This version's artistic and creative direction was the result of a compromise stemming from Creative Differences
On the one hand, you have the network
, who owns everything about the Turtles outright. On the other hand you have executive producer Ciro Nieli, and the staff of writers working on the show. After four episodes, the show has stopped short of switching gears between telling an action-adventure story and focusing more on teaching moral lessons to the "impressionable" viewers
. It's possible that the network wanted to the show to be more of the same (i.e., just like everything else they've aired in recent years), while the actual production staff wanted to make a show that was true to franchise (albeit while putting their own spin on things, with the result being that the show took a third option
, and thus resulted in the show we have now.
The classic clash between Leo and Raph will be/has been discarded...
In favor of a conflict between Raph and Don, a la the 2007 movie. While Raphael snarks at everybody's expense, the only one he's openly antagonistic towards is Donnie. Compare the endings of 'New Friend, Old Enemy' and 'Metalhead': Mikey realizes that the plot of the day is his fault
, and Raph goes out of his way to reassure him. The same thing happens to Don at the end of 'Metalhead', and Raph goes on about the other problems he's caused that day.
- Wouldn't be the first time the team dynamics have been shaken up, in the IDW continuity a lot of conflict stems from Donatello's scientific outlook clashing with Splinter and Leo's more spiritual beliefs.
The Kraang's interest in scientists will lead them to target Don
Don himself calls attention to the parallel in the premier, with the "[April's] dad's a scientist, I'm
a scientist" line, and in 'Metalhead' the Kraang recognized that he was the one who altered their technology and set it against them. There was also the very end of that episode when, after Metalhead
had been defeated, the Kraang controlling it
attacked Don— targeting his head, as Kraang do— without having any visible reason to do so.
- Or, alternatively, the fact that he's a scientist and has proven his capabilities will cause the Kraang to allow Don to trade himself for Kirby, seeing it as a good deal. After his reaction to not being able/allowed to save Kirby in 'The Gauntlet' this seems rather inevitable.
At some point, April will be kidnapped by one of the villains. She'll be Bound and Gagged
and, when the villain calls the turtles on her phone, she will try to call for their help. This will lead Donatello, the turtle with the crush on her, to say, "That's April all right. I recognize her mumbles."
The other turtles will then give wierd looks.
- Bonus points for Rob Paulsen also saying the line in the classic series.
- Extra bonus points for Don ripped the duct tape off April's mouth and she screams that it hurts*.
Metalhead will return, or at least the updates Don provided to it.
The Kraang will probably use ideas from Metalhead such as the flamethrowers and rocket fists, causing more trouble for the Turtles. Donatello will also become frustrated that his own design ideas are being used by The Kraang.
Because some adaptations as of recent are killing off or incapacitating their big name villains indefinitely to make way for other stories and villains, and the last series had possibly the highest Shredder quotient.
- I don't know if he would be killed permanently, but I can see Shredder being phased out occasionally while the Turtles tackled new enemies. Simply put, Shredder is the Turtle's archnemesis. Why do you think the last show had so much focus on him?
When Leatherhead is introduced, we'll get a ragtag team of mutant scientists
Since Monkey Brains wound up being Dr. Rockwell, mutated by his associate
we've already got two mutant scientists— if Leatherhead winds up being an ally rather than an enemy (depending on which characterization he takes after, if any) we may get a Power Trio
between LH, Monkey Brains and Don. Bonus points if Stockman winds up getting mutated like his OT counterpart, even temporarily.
- So they'll be this series' version of the Mighty Mutanimals?
- Jossed Leatherhead is not exactly a scientist in this universe.
The Kraang didn't employ Dr. Rockwell, but rather Falco
He just lied about that, too, to avoid suspicion.
The Mutagen somehow judges the character of the being it's mutating and changes them accordingly
That would be the "Secret of the Ooze" mentioned in the theme. Let's take a look at all the known mutants so far.
- Splinter- As far as we know he was an honorable man and a loving father/husband and so when he was mutated he kept his human mind and humanoid features (posture, fingers, etc).
- The turtles- At the time of their mutation they were infants and so were innocent and when they mutated they gained human level sentience and intelligence.
- Snakeweed- Snake worked willingly with aliens and helped abduct innocent people including a teenage girl and so when he mutated he became a monster barely human anymore.
- Spider Bytez- As Vic he was crude, crass, rude, selfish, and greedy. His greed directly caused his mutation when he went for his phone during a battle and so became a monstrous spider who spits acid.
- Dr. Tyler Rockwell- He was the victim of a modified version of the mutagen against his will so it's uncertain how much this applies to him, however monkeys and people are close enough that he's still not as much a monster as Snakeweed and Spider Bytez.
- Pigeon Pete- He was a normal neutral pigeon before being mutated and from what we saw of him was still neutral afterwards so it's likely his mutation was 50/50 pigeon/human
- Dogpound- As Chris Bradford he was incredibly loyal to Shredder and had his own twisted sense of morals so he kept a humanoid shape but because he valued strength above all he became muscular to the point that one of his arms is larger than the other.
- Fishface- As Xever he had no sense of empathy towards others and so his mutation was the only one so far that actually put his life in danger (he lost the ability to breath air as well as his legs)
- Leatherhead- He started as a pet (in his own words) to a kindhearted owner but was eventually found and experimented on by the Krang, His mutation is humanoid but he suffers mentally due to the experiments.
- With both Snakeweed and Spider Bytez, Snake was in a patch of weeds when he was exposed, and Vic was right next to a dangling spider.
- This WMG is about why some mutants have more monstrous appearances than others. The mutagen causes them to reflect their inner self, the more noble the more human they look, the more wicked the less human they look.
- It actually probably has more to do with some sort of outer interactions. As mentioned above, Snake and Vic were near weeds and spiders, and in "The Gauntlet", Bradford and Xever encountered a dog and a fish that look like their mutant forms Dogpound and Fishface.
- Yes and Splinter was near a rat when he mutated and didn't end up a rat monster he ended up a humanoid rat man. The fact they were near the source of their mutation was on purpose that's where the source DNA came from.
- So it would work kind of like gamma radiation was said to in some Hulk stories (how it mutates you depends on factors like personality or subconscious).
- Pulverizer lacked a strong sense of identity, first dressing as a turtle, then joining the Foot. He got turned into a formless blob monster, stripped even of what identity he had.
- It should also be noted that Pulverizer never had physical contact with any living thing before getting mutated, as his full-body ninja costume (And, presumably, his turtle costume underneath.) was in the way. Thus, the mutagen didn't have anything to mutate him together with. That could also tie into why he didn't really become anything in particular.
The modern mutagen is much more powerful than the one used on the Turtles.
The mutants created by the modern mutagen have universally gotten more power from the transformation than the Turtles and Splinter. It gave Snakeweed and Spider Bytez enough powers to fight evenly with the Turtles, Dogpound became tough enough to shrug off getting hit by a sword, and even Pigeon Pete had a more extreme transformation than the Turtles. The Turtles, on the other limb, don't seem to be any more powerful than humans, and even Splinter has only displayed combat abilities on par with the Shredder.
The obvious conclusion is that the Kraang's modification to it have caused it to create more powerful mutants.
- I just assumed it was because the other mutants got a heavier dosage, while the turtles just had a smaller amount.
April's not human.
In the Mirage comics, it was revealed that April was a case of Art Initiates Life
, something her father created via the crystal eventually used by their tenant, Kirby King. In this continuity, April's father is named
Kirby. That's why she's got that odd intuition Splinter noticed!
- This troper hope that doesn't happen. But as of "TCRI", the Kraang were after her instead of her dad, for some reason.
- I'm going on a dangerously unstable limb here and say she's Neutrino, maybe even Kala from the original show.
- As of " Karai's Vendetta", this is pretty much confirmed. I mean, she was unaffected by an acid strong enough to dissolve a slice of pizza completely.
With the Turtles fighting Shredder, only for Shredder to blow himself up in an attempt to kill the them
. This will lead to Karai's introduction as a cliffhanger into season 2.
- Partly jossed. Karai has already been introduced.
Come on, how could this not
Xever's behavior will prompt Raphael to try and change himself.
While "Never say Xever" had a similar idea, Xever and Raphael's similarities (their tempers and preference for violence) haven't been called on yet, and Raphael will eventually realize in yet another fight that, if he doesn't calm down a little, he will be just like Xever
The Purple Dragon Leo left/who helped out in 'Never say Xever' is a pre- Heel Face Turn
Donatello will find a way to become human, cue incredibly obvious "Be yourself" aesop.
He'll have spotted April chatting with a male friend and get jealous, thinking he could date her if only he were human. That same episode, he'll find a way to become human (Ooze-related or otherwise), and he'll start trying to woo Apri. At the end of the episode he'll be forced to go back to being a turtle (Probably to save April's life) and wont have a way to turn human ever again, because status quo is god.
Hun will appear as the leader of the Purple Dragons
Word Of God
confirmed that Casey Jones will be introduced in Season 2. Considering his history with Hun, he'll be introduced too.
Tang Shen is the one who gave Shredder the scar.
Unlikely, what we can see of Shredder's scaring is more consistent with burns. He probably suffered them in his attack on Yoshi and Shen's home.
The Kraang follow a philosophical doctrine that involves strict empiricist nominalism.
That's why they talk like they do. In order to even understand a general term, they have to reduce it to terms of direct sensual experience.
- To be more precise, they think and speak in Predicate Logic. To them, nouns like "turtle" don't refer to objects directly, but to sensual properties that have to be bound to individual variables ("that", "those", and so on) to gain meaning.
The Turtles will have to fight a team composed of mutants they have defeated at one point.
Snakeweed appeared to be electrocuted at the end of "Rise of the Turtles, Part 2", but the ending shows his exposed heart beating again, implying that he survived the Kraang accidentally electrocuting him
. Spider Bytez also vowed revenge when the Turtles defeated him in "Turtle Temper". Both mutants haven't been seen since, so it would be plausible that they are saving their comebacks for a Villain Team Up
episode. Bonus points if classic foes like Bebop and Rocksteady appear among their ranks, whether we saw their individual episodes detailing their mutations and first encounters with the Turtles at that point or not
- Snakeweed reappeared again as in New Girl in Town, no mention of Spider Bytez for the moment, though. This doesn't mean that in the future they couldn't team up along with Spy-Roach.
Casey Jones will become a vigilante because of the turtles
One or all of the turtles (maybe Raph) will save Casey from some criminals (most likely the purple dragons) and he'll be inspired to become a vigilante to protect people too.
- He'll actually have a vigilante name also.
Baxter will build a suit for Fishface to allow him to walk on the ground again
The toyline pretty much confirms that he'll get some mechanical legs and something that helps him breathe. No word on whether Baxter Stockman builds it.
- Confirmed as of "Alien Agenda". This seems to be one of the main reasons Shredder enlisted Stockman.
Don likes April. Duh. April is either ignoring
it or clueless
. Most likely ignoring it. Not much else has developed. Yet.
- Casey Jones' appearance will promptly rock the boat and launch a few more ships.
- The appearance of another character, Irma, may begin the launch of a shipping fleet. possible spoiler
Leatherhead's owner was a younger Casey
- He has the looks of a rebellious teenager, plus meddling parents who his beloved pet from him. Said pet eventually grows up to be a dangerously violent but goodhearted ally of the Turtles who tries to fight evil in his own way. Like owner, like pet.
The Shredder truly loved Teng Shen and did not mean to kill her, though he would probably blame Hamato Yoshi/Splinter for her death.
The more time the Turtles spend above ground the more they'll resent having to hide underground
Possibly resulting in a storyline where the masquerade is broken.
- Raph would most likely resent it the most.
If the masquerade is broken the villains will attempt to discredit and vilify the Turtles to the public
Only for all the people saved and befriended by them to defend and vouch for them.
- April will be the most known Turtles supporter. Similar to her 1987 cartoon counterpart. The downside to this is people (and likely her classmates) will treat her negatively and will be kidnapped by the villains (and likely normal criminals who believe the Turtles are threats to their own operations).
The Turtles will travel to the Kraangs dimension
- They will end up entering a portal to their dimension where they'll find out more about their motivation in travelling to Earth, and the purpose of the ooze.
Baxter Stockman will build Fishface a reverse-scuba suit.
- Xever (Fishface) needs a way to get back into the action, and Baxter can supposedly "build anything". A Running Gag will be that Fishface in the suit is a real threat, but the suit itself is about as durable as the M.O.U.S.E.R.S. were.
- Partly confirmed. Stockman did build something that lets Xever breathe again, but we haven't seen him in action yet.
- Fully confirmed. Stockman built him an exo-suit with arms and legs.
Shredder and the Kraang's leader will form a partnership
I said it first.
- Either that, or they could be enemies like Shredder and Krang are in the IDW comics.
- Maybe one, then the other
- Possibly foreshadowed at the end of "Enemy of my Enemy", when Shredder captures a "pet" Kraang.
The Turtles will start wearing disguises in public
In past versions, the Turtles have worn things like trenchcoats and green hoodies in public so they can walk on the streets. In the live-action movie, Raph was even able to see a...well, a movie while wearing one. Maybe they'll start doing that in this version.
Sid from the Purple Dragon gang is Casey's cousin Sid.
There will be an episode featuring a Space Heroes convention.
And it will be hilarious.
- And it will include the inevitable joke about the Turtles, going as themselves, being told that they have terrible alien costumes.
- Alternately, several people will be impressed with the "costumes" and beg to take pictures with them.
- Leo would totally geek out.
The others will shoot him down, but eventually it'll start to grow on them.
- Someone might say it sounds so "80s".
Kirby (April's Dad) will pay the price for his actions
After what he pulled in The Gauntlet it's safe to safe the Kraang might decide he's outlived his usefulness as a scientist creating one or more of the following options to happen by the time the Turtles and April find him again
- He's been mutated either
- Keeping his human mind and memories
- Becoming a mindless servant of the Kraang
- He's on his deathbed as a result of Kraang experiments
- He's already dead from Kraang experiments
- He's been mind controlled by the Kraang to use against the Turtles
- but manages to break free and save them most likely at the cost of his life
- Krang ate him
In other words when April finds him he won't be the same.
- Judging from the ending of TCRI he wasn't even needed in the first place making it more likely that he already was expendable.
- But he has to know something. It's gotta be more than her safety he's worried about.
The Rat King is actually Dr. Victor Falco.
Both are voiced by Jeffrey Combs and have some mental manipulation ability.
He's been confirmed for season two and the show has dropped hints of him (like recurring graffiti of his iconic mask that says "Casey Jones is everywhere!"). The fact that he's just a teenager
will be The Reveal
Even in-universe, Space Heroes is meant to be a parody
The show's over the top-ness and screwed morality from the Captain is intentional as is an affectionate parody of old space operas, Leo being out of the loop doesn't realize it's not meant to be taken at face value.
- Even the title sounds like a parody, it's too generic.
- It might just be a very old TV show.
Donatello is already head-over-heels for April, and Leo and Karai
have something going on. Mikey I think will end up with this continuity's version of the Neutrino Kala from the original cartoon
. Raph's could possibly be Mona Lisa.
- This Troper hopes for this to happen. There's not enough Interspecies Romance out there with humans involved.
- Alternatively, Raph's could be Ninjara.
April and Casey have already met...
...and dated, and broken up. Not only could this lead to hilarious tension between the two (not to mention Donnie getting jealous over nothing), but this could also leave room to expand on Casey and Raph's Bash Brothers
April will wear a yellow jumpsuit later in the series.
Probably when she becomes a full-fledged ninja/kunoichi and starts fighting alongside the turtles.
- A nod to the CGI cartoon.
- That would be so cool...
Karai is Miwa
She’s said to be sixteen, and Splinter lost his daughter as a new born about a year before he got the guys…who are 15.
- This is almost a certainty. Heck, the way The Shredder talks to her in the latest episode implies that he tells her a twisted version of his and Splinter's big clash.
- This could also possibly lead to a Heel Face Turn on her part, if she discovers the truth.
- ...And would this make the spark between her and Leo almost like Brother-Sister Incest?
- As of "The Alien Agenda", not anymore .
- Even so, would Nick really risk letting borderline incest air on their network?
- Well, They Did Allow An Attempted Suicide To Air On One Spongebob Episode...
- One has to wonder what it says about the fandom that we're more worried about the possiblity of emotional incest between two genetically unrelated individuals than we are about the fact said indaviduals aren't the same speices....not saying thats bad of us, just makes me wonder.
- According to TMNTpedia, "Miwa" means "Beautiful Harmony". And Karai used "Harmony" as an alias in "Karai's Vendetta".
Baxter Stockman's fate.
He will either...
- A. Transformed into a cyborg, using the Kraang tech.
- B. Gets exposed with the mutagen, and transformed into a mutant fly.
- C. A mixture of the above two.
- D. Suffer something even worse.
- He's be a Wangst wishing to be at peace.
There will be a conflict between Master Splinter and Leonardo
- In this show Master Splinter gives more pragmatic lessons, like seeking victory instead of fairness or makes Leonardo the leader because he asked, not because of his skills and tells Leonardo not to ask a simple "thank you" when he Leo tells about difficult it is to carry of being a leader and having to listen to constant complaints from his brothers. There's also Splinter saying "the first rule of being a ninja is, "Do no harm." Unless you mean to do harm. Then do lots of harm". While Leonardo listened to Splinter about seeking victory, not a fair fight, where will be an episode where Leonardo does something less practical, but more honorable like saving a villain or giving his opponents a chance to fight even if Leo would be in danger or something like that. Splinter will call out Leo on this and will give some pragmatic moral, but instead Leo will tell Splinter that he teaches them to be dishonorable and that he encourages them to cheat and act unheroically. At the moment of rage Leo will tell Splinter that his lessons make him no better than The Shredder. Furthermore, Leonardo will call out his brothers and Splinter for having too high expectations for him as their leader and not showing a slightest graditute and sympathy for how much he tries to be a good leader. Leonardo will go out on his own after having an argument with his mentor and brothers. This would be an interesting plotline, which would question the viewers if they support Leo's views or Splinter's views.
The Pulverizer will return and get mutated
- He'll get exposed to the mutagen and the last animal he touched will be a turtle, resulting in either Slash or Tokka. He'll blame the Turtles for what happened to him and become their enemy.
- Splinter's warning that Donatello will be responsible for whatever he teaches him did sound pretty ominous.
- Probably Slash; between Splinter's warning and the bit of time the Pulverizer spent with Don alone, it seems inevitable that the show would make a Mythology Gag about "Donatello Trashes Slash".
- Confirmed. However he transforms into the continuity's version of Mutagen Man, not another turtle. He does seem to be going after the turtles though. Whether this is because he blames them, or he's just feral now is left to be decided.
The Pulverizer is Casey Jones
He'll return after having taken a level in badass.
- Unlikely. Casey's graffiti has been present since the prequel comics, before the series premiered, whereas Pulverizer only became inspired to fight crime after he saw the turtles months later.
- that doesn't necessarily count this theory out though, as its unclear whether that graffiti was the mark of a seasoned fighter, or the mark of some kid that thinks way to much of himself (Not unlike the Pulverizer)
- Jossed. It's revealed that Pulverizer's real name is Timothy, plus he gets mutated.
The blob monster/Mutagen Man is a "Null" mutation.
Earlier episodes have shown that mutations combine the subject with traits from the last non-mutant
life form they touched. Pulverizer's last contacts were with Dogpound, Fishface and Donatello (all mutants) or other humans. Thus, with no other DNA to work from, the result was just severe genetic disruption. Alternatively...
- Given that he's called Mutagen Man, I'm going with this.
Mutagen Man is a mutant bacterium.
Abandoned warehouses are not likely to be clean, and that would likely leave bacteria on the floor. As the only nonhuman nonmutant lifeforms around...
The three Purple Dragons that we have seen thus far are just a small time wanna be branch of the larger gang.
The Purple Dragons is a larger organization (read: gang) that has different teams taking care of different “territories” around the city, and Fong, Tsoi, and Sid are just small time enforcers for the bigger organization. When word gets to the higher ups (more than likely Hun) that they have deviated from the main organization and signed on with Shredder, then said higher ups will probably come to investigate.
There will be a live action movie adaptation of the series.
Chris Bradford will be played by Chuck Norris
, and human Hamato Yoshi will be played by Leonard Nimoy
- Hamato Yoshi would have to be played by an Asian, preferably Japanese.
- Probably, but Hamato Yoshi in the series' flashbacks just looks so much like Leonard Nimoy.
When Kraang aren't trying to kill the Turtles or are occupied with other duties, they can be really silly and childish. They like to show off, insult each other ("In Kraang's face!"), and play with nun-chucks. And all we really know about them is that they come from another dimension, have a "Kraang Prime", and are at least as old as the Turtles. Kraang Prime could have grown (cloned?) soldiers that he could rely upon. This could explain the Kraang's speech patterns and oddball behavior. It would also provide symmetry with Splinter and the turtles: just as Splinter raised his children to be warriors that can protect themselves, Kraang Prime raised its "kids" as cannon fodder to carry its bidding.
"The Kraang" is the name of the group, not the species
The Kraang are a terrorist organization of the Utrom who take their name from their leader.
- More likely terrorist organization of Kraangs' species from the other dimension.
- ...Yeah, I'm saying that the species from the other dimension ARE the Utrom, and the Kraang are a group that came to conquer this dimension.
Baxter Stockman will become this continuity's version of Mutagen Man
Similar to how Dr. Falco became this continuity's Rat King
. Mutagen Man has already been confirmed to appear in the show, and Stockman has yet to have something terrible happen to him. It would also bring together Baxter's mutation from the 1987 series with his fate as a Brain in a Jar
from the 2003 series.
- Alternatively, the Kraang that Shredder retrieved at the end of "The Enemy of My Enemy" will become Mutagen Man.
- Jossed. Pulverizer ends up becoming Mutagen Man in "Pulverizer Returns."
The blimp from the 1987 cartoon will appear
The LEGO set of the lair had a picture of it. Only a matter of time.
Whether Splinter actually is Hamato Yoshi will come into question
Our heroes will discover that it's possible
Splinter was actually the rat from the flashback, and the rat touching Yoshi may have caused the mutagen to give him all his memories and skills. This question will cause Splinter to have an identity crisis.
- If this is the case and Shredder learns of it, he'll become more furious since he won't be able to have his revenge.
- It will also raise the question: What exactly is it that defines the identity of a person? Is it the material body? The memories? The "spirit"? Splinter will look to his Ninja philosophy for an answer, but might not find one right away, which might even lead him to questioning his own philosophical approach.
- It will ultimately turn out that Hamato Yoshi may have died to the Kraang in the alleyway after a long fight due to holding back (Splinter took down the Rat King with two fingers.). The fight in the alleyway that Splinter remembers was a fake memory created because it seemed like the only logical outcome to it.
Karai will eventually side with the turtles permanently
Karai discovers that the Shredder is not her real father and that she is actually Splinter's daughter Miwa (Shredder changed her name so she wouldn't find out), once she finds out, she has a Villainous BSOD
, and she ends up re-uniting with Splinter and the turtles.
- She might not join Splinter and the Turtles right away. She'll leave New York for awhile to "think things through".
At one point, April will become Venus de Milo
April now has a pair of battle fans as her own weapons. She might get mutated into a turtle as a result of the Kraang's plans with her. Heck, the number 5 on her shirt could foreshadow that she will become the fifth turtle. Her mutation may be temporary or permanent.
- Interesting theory. Donnie did say they needed a girl ninja on the team.
The Russian man selling weapons to the Shredder will appear in later episodes.
The end credits actually name him Steranko
, and he doesn't appear to have a generic character model.
1) It could be about Splinter and April's relationship of mentor/father figure to April and generally heartwarming
2) It will be a generally somber episode dealing with Splinter's life before being mutated and him grieving over his appearance while acting like everything is fine.
- It'll just be about Splinter from start to finish. Just like the two episodes in Sym-Bionic Titan.
3) Splinter getting into action after the Turtles are captured by enemies and taking revenge on them.
Shredder and Splinter will face off by the end of the season
Resulting in the darkest episode of the season with the two enemies. Perhaps they both even kill each other (though this could be reversed somehow) and leave their respective groups leaderless. Expect that to be a huge Wham Episode
- In the next season, there'll be an episode where Raph is alone and helps a kid in trouble before rejoining the others. And without the Shredder, there'll be a story-arc similar to "City at War".
Karai's relationship with Shredder will be darker in this series
In this series, Karai might be revealed to be abused by Shredder, leading her to possibly try to kill him.
The character will either be Mr. Marlin, Bonesteel of Next Mutation
, or a character that combines both of them
Splinter will eventually hook up with a blind woman.
She might become a recurring character, and eventually figure out what Splinter really is. When circumstances lead to Splinter admitting the truth, she tells him she knew for some time and doesn't matter to her
. There might be an episode where Splinter becomes human again and even plans on proposing to her, but he fears that she might not like him as a human as she did when he's a rat. But it won't matter in the long run, since he has reverted back into a rat. And the episode ends with him throwing the ring to a river.
There will be an episode or two on the nature of Revenge.
The main characters of the episode(s) will show characters horribly afflicted by revenge, and the problems that come from it, as well as a resolution:
- Karai wants to get back at the Turtles for breaking a deal and trying to kill the Turtles. I have no clue on a resolution, aside from her realizing that she's becoming like her dad and she'll realize that this is a bad thing.
- Here's my idea: Karai nearly has the turtles defeated, then April step in to defend them, she ends up badly injured(even moreso then in "Karai's Vendetta")and Karai is on the verge of killing her but ends up stopping short, flashing back to April's comment about losing her mother, then she realizes that her and April are Not So Different and she offers a truce to April and the turtles, telling them that they are not friends but are not enemies either.
- Baxter, who lashes out at society at length due to his own problems or the fact he's unlucky. The Turtles will tell him to stop, as he's wasting his talents going after them and the world, and will convince him that his skills can be used for the greater good and earn him the respect he thinks he deserves.
- The Shredder, who will finally be called on for how shortsighted, destructive, and horrible he's become. He won't care and may end up dying... Before turning out to be alive, possibly in Dimension X.
The premise would probably involve them going after a rogue agent (Baxter, perhaps), and elaborating upon their backstories via Flashback. This would help develop characters like Karai or Bradford, or even the Shredder, which would most likely show his own take on the events that lead to his fall
Shredder told Karai that Hamato Yoshi's wife was his own wife, and that Hamato Yoshi was the one responsible for her death.
Notice Karai's reaction when April mentions being motherless. Fits with the "Karai is Miwa" theory.
- To add on to that, a possibility for a future episode-Karai and April get into another fight, only this time April holds her own much better, April asks her why she hates the turtles so much, Karai tells them about their "betrayal" of her and also mentions that Yoshi killed her mother and she wants revenge. April then realizes that Karai is Miwa and tries to tell her the truth about what happened, Karai naturally dosen't believe her and continues fighting until April somehow ends up saving Karai from being killed(I.E. she tackles her out of the way of a falling object or something like that). Both of them quickly go they're seperate ways, with Karai in shock over April saving her life, then she goes looking through some files at the foot HQ, and she discovers evidence that April WAS telling her the turth, and the episode ends with close-up of her gasping in horror.
The Kraang want to use April to modify humans to be resistant to Kraang water.
Which, when you think about it
, isn't quite as villainous a goal as the turtles believe (they want to not
dissolve humans)... if you can overlook their methods
(kidnapping, irresponsible use of mutagen, etc.)
April IS a Kraang
A highly advanced one that the kraang need to get the model of again, so they can finish their invasion. Because that would be one big Plot Twist
- Would that completely ruin the show for anyone else, or just me?
- It's not just you.
- Maybe she's just genetically enhanced? My theory is April's mother died of cancer and when April started showing the same symptoms, Kirby developed an experimental strain of antibodies and administered thme to April, making her highly resistant to damage, explaning not only the acid, but how she managed to keep getting up in her fight with Karai.
- I hope this turns out to be true. Or at least the part where April's dad genetically modify her when she was younger.
- As stated by April herself, her dads a psychologist, so his field of study has nothing to do with gen-manipulation....however we know nothing of her mother
- Oh yeah, I forgot about that. Perhaps her mother was working on a cure for cancer and tested on April, only for her and her reaearch to "mysteriously vanish" one day. Then in a later episode it's revealed that the Krang have in fact kidnapped April's mother and they've been forcing her to develop a "cure" that would allow Dimension X lifeforms to inhabit the Earth, but the Krang need April to perfect it.
- April might be from Dimension X, just not a Kraang but as another species that would have to be able to survive the conditions there. April the Neutrino, anyone?
After Karai's failure to capture April, Shredder will start to become much more abusive towards her.
This will lead her to do whatever it takes to prove herself to him, similar to Hun in the 2003 cartoon. Until she learns the truth, like in the theory above.
The Kraang are not just in New York.
They're all around the world, and the Turtles will have to travel the world to take down their operations.
There will be clones at some point.
The Kraang will experiment in cloning the Turtles, who will be this series' versions of "The Dark Turtles" from Fast Forward
... But the Kraang won't really be seeking Turtles
. They'll be wanting to make a Shark Mutant Clone of The Shredder. Because the Shredder was brought back as some sort of Shark hybrid in the comic at one point
Shredder will become Super Shredder.
As we've seen with Rat King, in this series mutants don't have to be biological mash-ups. Shredder is going to use some refined mutigen to become Super Shredder.
If Shredder and Kraang are teaming up, Shredder will be the one in charge, unlike in 1987 cartoon.
This version of the Shredder is too baddass to be stooge of someone else, unlike in the first catoon and given the fact that he managed to intimidate a Kraang, it is unlikely that he will be Kraang lackey. Shredder will probably get Kraang's technology, he will either double cross Kraang or will terrify them so much, that they will become completely obiedient to him. Shredder will use Kraang's technology to strenghten Foot Clan, make more mutants and possibly expand influence of the Foot. Shredder might also use Kraang's tech for something very horrible, something that even Kraang would not try to do
At least one joke will be done where the characters don't even remember
a previous villain or event due to it being normal for them at that point.
The leader of the Kraang has a personality more in line to the version from the old series
Splinter will come out...
In the season 1 finale to save his sons and fight The Shredder. The series has been building up to a confrontation between the two. Krang Prime will capture April and reveal her origins but the Turtles will save her.
But then they'll be too tired to fight The Shredder, who'll have helped the Krang and was waiting for them to be vunerable
. From there Splinter will defeat his old foe and the typical Shredder is dead, only to have survived and gone into hiding to heal his wounds plot occurs. Then in Season 2 Krang Prime will be the sole Big Bad, but numerous gang leaders will also show up to fill the void of power in an adaption of the 'City at War' arc