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Here is the wrong way. You should ask that the page be cut and recreated with the correct wiki word. This can be done via the cutlist. You may want to save a backup copy of the page first.
Edit: the wiki word used in creation can be inspected on the custom title menu.
Edit 2: test Mishima A Life In Four Chapters
Edited by war877
VisualNovel.Kisses And Curses has the same problem. It was originally VisualNovel/KissesandCurses and the custom title only showed when it was linked to that way. Then it was cut and recreated as VisualNovel/KissesAndCurses, but the custom title still only works when it's linked to as VisualNovel/KissesandCurses. See:
VisualNovel/KissesAndCurses - Kisses And Curses
VisualNovel/KissesandCurses - Kisses & Curses
Edited by Twiddler
Looks like Call Of Duty Infinite Warfare has the same problem.
VideoGame/CallofDutyInfiniteWarfare - Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare
Edited by Twiddler
Custom titles only work with the exact case used to create the article. It's a known issue, but I'm not sure one can correctly call it a bug per se.
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So to sum up: The custom title will only work for the capitalization the article had at the time that article first had a custom title approved. Even if the article is recreated with a different capitalization later, or a new custom title is submitted. If a custom title is given to an article with improper capitalization, that article's custom titles will forever be tied to that improper capitalization.
Is there any way for a mod to manually delete the custom title?
Peter and the Starcatcher is another article affected by this issue.
Edited by MetaFour
Happening again, based on this ATT thread
. Among the ones mentioned there, I've noticed Everyman HYBRID isn't working. The "Hybrid" part should be capitalized.
I'm the one who made the ATT post mentioned ^. It occurs to me now that I'm posting here, that along with Five Nights At Freddys VR Help Wanted, which I initially posted about, and others mentioned in that thread, is also affecting TANIS. They should appear as Five Nights at Freddy's VR: Help Wanted and TANIS respectively.
In the ATT thread, nombretomado stated this issue as the cause and the pages would need to be cut and recreated. The thing is, I already did that for both pages. The FNAF page was made in all-lowercase and TANIS in all-caps originally. I submitted both and their current subpages to the Cut List, recreated them with their existing titles, and am still setting the issue.
If I'm understanding Twiddler's post correctly, this is a side effect of the pages being made with improper capitalization, being given a custom title, then being cut and remade with correct capitalization?
Edited by sgamer82
That isnt the case with EMH, though... It's worked up until today.
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I have a question about this bug: Would it be possible to dodge the issue if the Custom Title is removed prior to cutlisting and re-creating the page? I'm looking to properly recreate Manga.SP Yx FAMILY and am hoping to avoid this issue if at all possible.
The custom title for XXX Return Of Xander Cage isn't working. Looking at the history, it looks like it was recreated or moved, but I can't figure out what capitalization the custom title is attached to.
Edited by Twiddler
According to the history of Sandbox.Pages In Accidentally Miscapitalised Namespaces, it was originally at XxXReturnofXanderCage (xXx: Return of Xander Cage).
Edited by TheRoguePenguin
I was reminded of this thread from an Ask the Tropers thread where the possibility of this bug occuring came up. Has any progress/updates been made on this issue? For example, has anyone tried the idea I suggested of cutting the custom title prior to cutting the page?
How do you cut a custom title?
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I didn't cut a custom title, but submitted a new one that's wrong. I don't think it works. Lab rat: The Wards Of UA
It used to be Fanfic/TheWardsofUA - The Wards of UA
Steps taken:
- Submit "The Wardsof UA" as custom title (I don't think custom titles can be removed via the form, so I had to submit a different one)
- Wait for request to to be accepted. Sent a PM to crazysamaritan in the meantime so the mods know what I'm up to
- Once the bad custom title was accepted, cut Fanfic/TheWardsofUA and recreate with correct case Fanfic/TheWardsOfUA
- Submit correct custom title. The custom title has been applied
There's no known way to cut the old custom title: both cutlists and unlaunching fails.
Perhaps in Administrivia for creating page titles, there should be a note on article capitialization, and how custom titles will be tied to the case used when it is approved, and not when there is a different capitalization.
Basically something like "for a work titled MultiVersus retain the capitialization for the article instead of using Multiversus and creating a custom title to add the capital letters."
Or is there already a rule mentioned?
I would like to see this bug fixed at some point.
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More info: custom titles are locked to capitalization at the moment a custom title is first submitted for that title, regardless of whether it is approved. See Testing For Twiddler and Testing For Twiddler 2 for demonstrations.
Theatre.L Elisir D Amore only shows the custom title when written as Theatre/{{Lelisirdamore}} (L'elisir d'amore).
Edited by Mrph1
Creator.Ru Paul only shows the custom title when written as Creator/{{Rupaul}} (RuPaul).
Edited by Mrph1
- VideoGame.Dragon Ball Fighter Z only shows the custom title when written as VideoGame/DragonballFighterz (Dragon Ball FighterZ)
- Nice, Mean, and In-Between similarly only has its custom title appear when written as NiceMeanAndInbetween
Was directed to this thread! I have another one: WebVideo.Redacted SMP, which only displays correctly if written Webvideo/Redactedsmp ([REDACTED] SMP)
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Legend of the Guardians: The Owls of Ga'Hoole only works without capitalizing "Hoole", and Return of the Obra Dinn only works if "of" and "the" are both kept uncapitalized.
Edited by FernandoLemon I'd like to apologize for all this.
- Platform.Play Station Vita only shows the custom title when typed out as Platform/PlaystationVita instead of Platform/PlayStationVita (PlayStation Vita vs. Play Station Vita)
~𝕋𝕒𝕓𝕤 Maybe this list should be separated into a sandbox so others can append it?
TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
Since nobody knows a way to fix these titles and a sandbox wouldn't be actionable, I'm only keeping the list for the curious.
Mod note: For a list of pages affected by this bug, click here
I don't know if this is an issue on any other page, but Film.Mishima A Life In Four Chapters only shows the correct custom title when you link to it if you write the incorrect Wiki Word Film.MishimaALifeinFourChapters (lowercase i in "in" โ I'm guessing the custom title was originally submitted that way). That's just a minor problem, but it gets somewhat more annoying by the fact that I can't submit a fix through the normal custom title system (instead, I have to do it through here).
Edited by Tabs