Old Complete Monster cleanup thread
Welcome to the Complete Monster proposal thread! This is the thread where new Complete Monster examples are vetted, approved, and written up. If you're looking for the general cleanup thread (for cuts, rewrites, expansions, and the like), please go here
Important: Before suggesting any new examples, please read the Frequently Asked Questions and Common Requests List; if you have any questions, the odds are high they are answered there. Additionally, please check here for the earliest date a work can be discussed (usually two weeks from the U.S. release date) and whether the work has already been reserved by another user.
Here is how the process works:
- If you have a candidate to propose, you can simply come right in and propose them! If the character's run is brief, such as a single issue of a comic book, then a simple summary of their actions and any potential redeeming qualities will be enough; for longer-running candidates, an effortpost (EP) might be helpful for organizing the proposal. An EP is not outright required, but please be mindful that if a post becomes too clunky and unorganized, it can be very hard for other people to follow.
- After the proposal, there will be a 72-hour discussion and voting period, where people may ask questions and vote on the candidate. The number of upvotes must outnumber the downvotes by at least five for the character to be considered "approved".
- Three days after the proposal has been made, if the character has been approved, you may post the writeup (the text to be posted on the trope page itself) on the thread and send it to the drafts page. Your candidate will soon be added to the CM subpage. If the work has a page, you should add your candidate to the relevant YMMV page. Voila! It's that simple!
Outside of this process, we do have a few ground rules:
- To keep the thread moving at a reasonable pace, there are some restrictions on when a proposal can be made. There should only be a maximum of four EPs posted both per page and per hour to ensure that nothing gets lost in the shuffle; additionally, each individual troper should only be proposing or writing up characters from a maximum of three works at a time (from initial proposals to end of their voting period). If your proposal would fall outside of either of these guidelines, we'd like to ask you to please wait until they would fit within; feel free to type them up on an outside document, and then when the time comes, you can just copy, paste, and post!
- No plagiarism of any kind. This is a very serious matter site-wide, as the website could get in actual legal trouble over this; as a result, this can very quickly lead to mod intervention. This can take many different forms:
- Direct plagiarism, i.e. wholesale copying. This is not only the easiest to find, but is also the most likely to warrant quick moderator intervention. To be clear, quoting in some places is perfectly acceptable, but it has to be very clear you're quoting from something else and it cannot be anything longer than a sentence or two - if you're quoting an entire work summary from Wikipedia, no one is going to believe you've actually consumed the work, so even if you cite your source, your candidate will be downvoted anyway.
- Self-plagiarism. Even if you can prove that you wrote the same text in both places, the site itself can't contain any of the duplicated text. If you already wrote something once before, it's not too hard to write it a second time.
- Using another site's work as a template for a proposal. Just because you don't copy and paste something directly doesn't mean it's any harder to detect if you're basing parts or all of your proposal on text someone else wrote. To be clear, this doesn't violate site rules and won't lead to mod intervention, but just like if you directly plagiarize, no one will believe you've consumed the work if you're clearly basing your proposal on something else. This thread largely operates on the honor system, and tweaking someone else's work to pass it off as your own is one of the fastest ways to lose trust.
- Votes must be for specific candidates, meaning no blanket voting (i.e. "yes to everyone I missed").
- If you are the first person to downvote a candidate, please provide an explanation of why when you do so. We're here for discussions above all, and a hit-and-run downvote doesn't facilitate anything.
- If a work is already reserved by another user, please don't comment on the work or any potential characters worth discussion before the discussion date. We know how exciting it is when a work has a keeper that you're waiting to talk about, but it's not fair to the person who reserved the work who is just as excited to lead the discussion to see the discussion getting spoiled before they get to do it. On the other hand, if the reservation only has one name attached, shoot them a PM - they may be down for a collaboration, which will get you in on the fun as well!
- Please keep the thread on-topic. While discussing the trope is fun and we encourage people to enjoy it, questions like "who's your favorite CM" are off-topic and can lead to thumps. That's the kind of question to take to people's PMs if they're willing. Similarly, while we encourage friendliness and familiarity with other users, posts should always have some kind of thread-relevant purpose; for instance, if you want to wish someone a happy birthday, feel free to, but if it's the only thing in the post, it's off-topic and needs something else alongside it. Again, though, while we strive for a friendly atmosphere, this is not Facebook; life updates are fun, but unless they have some kind of impact on your thread participation, please do not bring it here - we have Yack Fest for that.
- Please refrain from asking anything along the lines of "How Did We Miss This One?" In almost every case, the answer is simply "No one thought about it before". This Is a Wiki where everyone has different interests, and the fact that people missed a particular candidate, even one that seems like a textbook example of a trope or a character who is particularly iconic in pop culture, means absolutely nothing. The question is disruptive, has a simple and consistent answer, and provides nothing to any discussion.
- If you are suspended from parts of the website, it is still possible to participate!
- For users who are suspended from editing the wiki, you still have full access to this thread. You can propose candidates and write them up with no issues whatsoever; while you will have to ask someone else to post the entry to the relevant pages once it is done, all write-ups are considered thread-approved - as in, done by consensus - and thus doing so does not violate any rules regarding meatpuppeting.
- If you are suspended from the forums, your participation is limited but not impossible. It is still possible for a forum-suspended user to assist in creating the write-up for a character who has already been approved; as previously mentioned, write-ups are inherently considered a consensus-based edit and thus not tied to any one particular user. However, you can not assist in the proposal of a character; as a proposal is based around the forum rather than the wiki, doing so with a forum suspension qualifies as meatpuppeting.
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If you would like to use an EP for your candidate, here's the general format. This format does not have to be followed exactly, but these are the main topics that need to be covered:
What is the work?
This is a brief summary of the work you're going to discuss. We don't need a full plot summary here, just however much we need to understand going into the discussion — it can even be as simple as quoting the summary on the work's page.
Who is the candidate and what have they done?
This is essentially the character's biography — who they are, their story, the crimes they commit, and, preferably (though not required), what happens to the candidate at the end. It does not have to include every single thing they ever do — for some villains, we'd be here all day if that was the case — but it should include the highlights of their journey.
Any redeeming qualities? Freudian Excuse?
This is where any potential redeeming characteristics or tragic backstory should be discussed. Do they have a tragic past? Do they show that Even Evil Has Standards or Even Evil Has Loved Ones? Maybe a Pet the Dog moment or two? This is where these should be discussed in full. Not every potential redeeming moment is a clear-cut disqualifier, but we should hear of any potential issues to ensure the character is discussed in full.
Are they bad enough?
A Complete Monster has to be particularly vile by the standard of the work they appear in. Therefore, you should look at what the character does compared to similar characters in the same work. This takes into account things like:
- Their resource level (a human Serial Killer can't stand up to an alien Omnicidal Maniac, but they can be bad by the standard of other human serial killers)
- The amount of time they have to work with (such as a one-shot character versus long-running antagonists)
- The quantity vs. quality of their crimes compared to others (someone with a lower victim count but far more visceral and personal crimes could be considered as equally bad overall as someone with a higher body count but less horror involved)
Essentially, this section is an analysis of the kinds of villainy shown in the work and an explanation of why this particular character's villainy stands out within it.
Final verdict?
This is where you post your final conclusion on the character in question. You can continue elaborating on your reasons or even just say a simple "yes" or "no"; at this point, we've heard everything we need to hear.
IMPORTANT NOTICE: This thread tackles very serious and dark matters on a daily basis. We will be discussing things like murder, rape, torture, human trafficking, crimes against children, and in particularly dark cases, several of these issues at the same time. We keep a lighthearted air, but all candidates carry the general assumption that these are awful individuals committing disgusting crimes. We ask that if you participate, you do so with the requisite seriousness such dark topics require; exclamations of how gross something is, whether serious or sarcastic, are disrespectful to the topics at hand, and if you cannot handle such topics, please do not participate.
And that's everything you need to know. Welcome to the thread!
Edited by Twiddler on Jan 17th 2024 at 5:42:49 AM
The wifi here sucks
This was kind of a passing thought so it's been a bit since I've seen that scene but I feel like it's meant to be more of a showing of Diana's compassion that she willingly lets a pure evil person go rather than an indication that Poison herself has any genuine humanity in her.
Also hi 43! 
Edited by papyru30 on Mar 30th 2024 at 10:17:35 AM
Hope your prepared for an unforgettable luncheon
While I have no desire to do complete Monster proposals, I created a Complete Monster page for Bravely Default, given that it has seven Complete Monsters, which I think is enough to warrant a page, given that Battlefield has one and there's only seven in that page.
Edited by Tehrannotaur on Mar 30th 2024 at 10:13:20 AM
You can't just unilaterally make a page, you need to bring it up here and get approval for it first
When a franchise gets a page is a case by case basis, while 7 is the minimum it doesn't mean it automatically gets a page, it's based on what pages it's spread out on and indentation, we have franchises with 8 keepers without pages
Edited by Agentofchaos on Mar 30th 2024 at 12:18:17 PM
REALITY IS AN ILLUSION, THE UNIVERSE IS A HOLOGRAM, BUY GOLD BYEEEE! | She/Her
Shall I delete it?
I already put the Cut List request
REALITY IS AN ILLUSION, THE UNIVERSE IS A HOLOGRAM, BUY GOLD BYEEEE! | She/Her
So once it gets cut, how do I get a Bravely Default page formally approved?
Since you mentioned that it's based on what pages it's spread out on and indentation, so far the first game has three, Bravely Second has one, and Bravely Default II has three.
Edited by Tehrannotaur on Mar 30th 2024 at 10:25:20 AM
Hello there, this is my first CM proposal, I have been on here for 3 years (though only really active for 1 if even that), and am somewhat active on the Character Specific Pages thread, but I haven't proposed a CM yet though I have been meaning to for some time. I have a potentially overlooked candidate from the Rambo film series, having seen all 5 movies, hes a shot in the dark candidate for sure but I believe that at least deserves a shot, here we go. Also on another note, happy Easter tomorrow, it's not quite yet at the time of making this, and I don't have any Easter candidates, but hey.
What's the work?
Rambo: First Blood Part II is the second installment in the Rambo Franchise starring Sylvester Stallone as the title character. I think most of us have at least heard of the series even if they haven't seen the films.
Who is Lieutenant Colonel Sergei T. Podovsky and what has he done?
Portrayed by Steven Berkoff (who surprisingly doesn't have any keepers yet that I'm aware of, considering he was often typecast as villains, but who knows maybe this will change all of that), Podovsky is the Soviet commander of a prisoner of war camp in Vietnam, which has been active since the Vietnam War, where said prisoners are tortured and forced to live in horrible conditions, and are also used for slave labor if one the P.O.W.s is to be believed, Podovsky specializes in interrogations, and is stated in his survival mode profile to have personally interrogated at least 50 prisoners during his time there, and also assisted the Vietnamese during the war.
Podovsky makes his first appearance after Rambo is caught trying to rescue one of them, he orders the Vietnamese to cut Rambo down and take the latter to his office so that he and Sergeant Yushin can interrogate Rambo personally, and also notes that Rambo has likely been amongst his Vietnamese comrades before, something Rambo is visibly shocked by, which could possibly imply that Podovsky might have an indirect connection to Rambo's torture and PTSD from then.
Podosvky initially acts nice towards Rambo, but when these tactics don't work, he gets increasingly more annoyed, and has Rambo tortured for hours, even subjecting him to the electricity of the camp, and also notes that Rambo is "the strongest yet, but still near death", (implying that he has killed P.O.W.s in the past) after that doesn't work, he threatens to have a prisoners eyeball cut out with a scalding hot knife, and almost does, but only relents when Rambo seemingly caves in to his demands, but also threatens to torture and kill the prisoner if Rambo doesn't cooperate, but Rambo gets the upper hand on both of them, and escapes with the help of his love interest Co Bao, to which Podovsky responds by instructing his troops to hunt down and kill the duo in the jungle, they half-succeed, they succeed at killing Co Bao, but not Rambo, and Rambo is visibly gut-wrenched when the latter is killed, and promises to avenge her death.
Podovsky shows up again during the climax, where he pilots a helicopter and attempts to personally kill Rambo and the escaped P.O.W.s, and when point chasing after them even while they are above a village full of civilians, and when it looks like Podovsky is about finish off Rambo and the prisoners, Rambo gets the upper hand on him and blows him up with a rocket launcher.
Redeeming qualities?
When he first meets Rambo, he calls the Vietnamese torture methods vulgar, and tries to act nice to Rambo, but these can easily be chalked up to manipulation tactics with the hopes that Rambo will be more likely to break that way, and if he does have any standards against torture, well, then it certainly isn't enough to stop him from allowing his Vietnamese allies to brutalize them around the clock, or even carry it out personally or order it.
He is Laughably Evil thanks to Berkoff's ridiculously scenery eating Russian accent, but his actions are taken seriously by the film.
There's nothing to suggest he cares about any of his subordinates either, as he never visibly reacts when any of them are killed or when Yushin is (non-fatally) electrocuted by Rambo, and never shows any genuine concern for their well-being, I mean for what it's worth, he does say light thank you to Captain Vinh when he brings Rambo in, but given his pragmatic and calculated nature, that could easily be to maintain appearances, especially since as I already mentioned, he doesn't seem to care when he is killed, or he could have just said it on a whim.
Heinous standard?
He easily passes the baseline, with torture en masse of prisoners, forcing them to live in inhumane conditions, using slave labor, threatening to cut a prisoners eyeball out with a scalding hot knife, having a women killed, being implied to have killed P.O.W.s in the past, and a somewhat decent attempted kill count of a dozen or so, and putting a village full of civilians in danger, and in the film itself, Sergeant Yushin, Captain Vinh, and Lieutenant Tay are all just following his orders or are enabled by him, and don't do enough to set themselves apart from him, and the films makes it clear that they answer to Podovsky, like when they salute him when he first appears, and they immediately comply when he orders Rambo to be cut down, his only real in film competition is Marshall Murdock, who is aware of Podovsky's crimes, and covers them up, and gives the order to have Rambo left behind, but is more or less hands off compared to Podovsky and his allies (also no one in the first film even passes the baseline).
But his REAL competition comes from the sequel baddies, namely Colonel Alexei Zaysen, Major Tint, and the Martinez Brothers (the former two are mass murderers with at least four to seven digit kill counts, including women, children, and even animals (and in the Zaysen's case, infants too) and are also mass rapists in addition to mass murders (with Tint even being a first hand pedophile), and have various other cruel atrocities as well, while the latter two are human traffickers who killed Rambo's surrogate niece, brand Rambo's face and beat him to a pulp, and even ambiguously caused his death in the climax), but I will say this much for certain, Zaysen and Tint had more resources since they had entire regions under their control, (Zaysen had an entire province of Afganistan underneath his iron boot, while Tint had pretty much a good chunk of Burma as his personal playground, whereas Podovsky only has a single P.O.W. camp under his control, which he also needs to keep a secret in order to continue doing what he does) plus Podovsky is arguably a more personal foe for Rambo than them since he has a personal kill under his belt, (that of Co Bao), whereas neither of them were able to successfully kill anyone close to Rambo, (although Zaysen tortured his mentor Trautman), and Rambo is still visibly saddened by Co's death even two sequels later.
And the Martinez Brothers, eh... their crimes are more just different than worse per se. Podovsky has been torturing and killing P.O.W.s for over a decade, his having Co Bao killed still haunts Rambo in the sequels, and a decent sized attempted kill count, whereas the Martinez Brothers having been trafficking girls for an unspecified amount of time, but nothing indicates that they have been active for as long as Podovsky has, and while they also have a personal kill, (of Gabriela, which admittedly was leaps and bounds worse than Podovsky having Co Bao shot and bled out, and also Gabriela was a teenager) but their actions were mostly just limited to one movie, whereas Podovsky's had an (albeit subtle) impact that spanned throughout franchise in some way or another.
Final Verdict?
He isn't the strongest keeper ever, but I think he has a flying chance, taking all of this into account. I would love for him to count, but ultimately you guys decide.
Edited by Bluedeadredemption on Mar 31st 2024 at 8:57:55 AM
Jogo
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Deveraux and the Director of Jigsaw
Does Azami and Sumire from Manga/The Unforgiving Flowers Blossom in the Dead of Night count?
Edited by umaprasis on Mar 31st 2024 at 1:18:53 AM
Lizzid people!
No. No one counts from that. They care for each other.
Edited by AustinDR on Mar 31st 2024 at 1:19:53 AM
Goku Black
jigsaw director.
....Phenomenal
for the Director.
@ Bluedeadredemption Welcome to the thread, but is there any way you could break up your proposal a bit? There's some pretty big walls of text there.
There remains a foothold out of this mire — now climb.
- Spider-Man: "Cletus Kasady" is a clone of the original created by the Carnage symbiote to help it answer the question "What is a god?" and establish a religion to worship it. Acting as the Carnage symbiote's apostle, "Cletus"—Inspired by the mystery of true-crime podcasts—began murdering people with the same names as the 12 Disciples of Christ, trapping one man in a glass box covered in ciphers to be boiled to death. Hunting down the original Cletus Kasady and and scornfully eating his brain to absorb his consciousness, "Cletus" poisoned the elderly Rose Thompson with Polonium-210 to force her son Flash Thompson to weaken the Anti-Venom symbiote healing her, attempting to assimilate it before trapping him in the Darkforce Dimension. Hunting down and tormenting Dylan Brock and the Venom symbiote in an attempt to draw out Eddie Brock, "Cletus" tortured Dylan by revealing the full extent of the Venom symbiote's dark past before impaling him through the heart. While superficially charming, "Cletus" is every bit the nihilistic and sadistic sociopath the original was, boasting that the act of murder makes him feel like a god.
- Call of Cthulhu:
- Individual Modules
- The Dare: Ellen Rawes was a witch in the 17th century who made a pact with Nyarlathotep in exchange for immortality, leaving her with a craving for human flesh. Developing a taste for children, Ellen escaped the Salem witch trials and eventually resurfaced in 1866 under the alias Evelynn Barnaker, becoming the benefactor of an orphanage so she could devour children who wouldn't be missed. Mutating into a bloated, monstrous hag, Evelynn faked her own death in 1885 and had her monstrous half-human half-vermin offspring excavate a chamber under her house; preying on the children and pets of families who moved into her old house and the surrounding neighbourhood, and even devouring her own offspring. When local bully Roger Simmons breaks into her home, Evelynn kills him and uses his puppeteered corpse to lure a fresh batch of young victims—the Investigators—into her abode, intending to sacrifice them to Nyarlathotep to renew her twisted immortality.
- Individual Modules
- Ain't Slayed Nobody:
- "The Dare": Evelynn Barnaker is a child-eating witch who haunts 12 Ashwood Road in Boston, and has been devouring children at least 100 years, sewing the skins of her victims into clothing and tormenting those foolish enough to move into her old house. In 1986, Evelynn converts local bully Roger into a reanimated corpse puppeteered by the vermin under her control and uses him to lure the tweenage Trouble Trio—Pauline, Kyle, and Charles—into venturing inside her house, spying on them through mirrors and gaslighting Pauline into believing she is the ghost of her late grandmother. Siccing her verminous minions on the Trouble Trio, Evelynn turns Kyle into a puppeteered corpse and captures Pauline before devouring her alive.
Edited by Arawn999 on Mar 31st 2024 at 5:38:54 AM
Unofficial Wiki Curator for Complete Monster
Wait, was the EP for Ellen or Evelynn?
Also, I guess the Cletus clone goes under the original, with Carnage (2023)?
Edited by ACW on Mar 31st 2024 at 8:29:19 AM
CM Dates; CM Pending; CM Drafts
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They're the same person, and yes I think that should work nicely.
Edited by Arawn999 on Mar 31st 2024 at 5:52:36 AM
Unofficial Wiki Curator for Complete Monster
Sure, but was it for the game or Ain't Slayed? Or both?
Also, I think I'm gonna put Cletus clone at the end of the Earth-616 Other Characters section, now that I think about it.
CM Dates; CM Pending; CM Drafts
Both.
I was going to say the Cletus clone should go under the original Cletus Kasady.
Gonna abstain on Podovsky for now... the villains in the following film really jack up the standard.
Also hello again pap! I don't think she's a bad candidate by any means—absolutely punches through the heinous standard—but my viewing of the film left me feeling the narrative intent was to inject at least a sliver of sympathy for her, evil as Poison is, in the implied loneliness and Diana's choice to save her. I remember she was downvoted years ago but I'm totally onboard if you'd like to do a comprehensive EP as I also acknowledge my counterargument is in subjective territory and she's damn nasty!
Yes to Director Jigsaw.
mir and I have been working together on an iconic cop show from the 90s to the 2000s. Also, Sky Cat 32 helped with a lot with the research on this series, he mostly wrote up the following EP, I just slightly tweaked it with his permission and I thank him for his help:
What is the work?
NYPD Blue was a cop show from 1993 to 2005, known for getting away with stuff (swearing and full frontal nudity) that was rarely seen on network TV before then. Andy Sipowicz, a rough Cowboy Cop and his fellow officers deal with some of the worst stuff on the rough streets of NYC for 12 years.
Trigger warning, this series is going to get dark.
Who is the Webster Dictionary Killer, and what has he done?
The Webster Dictionary Killer, from the episodes ''In the Butt, Bob" & "Vishy-Vashy-Vinny ", real name George Putnam, is a multiple murderer known for cutting out letters from the Webster Dictionary as a Calling Card. The Webster Killer targeted the couples and killed 6 people in 1989, including a 15-year-old girl he shot in the eye. He also killed two people as a stick-up man before becoming a Serial Killer. At the start of the episode, he has become active as a Serial Killer again. He was killing people with a gun in 1989, but switching to strangling his victims in 1994.
Having stabbed and strangled a man named Benjamin Hollis, Putnam proceeds to leave a mocking note implying that he killed both Hollis and Hollis's girlfriend, Alexandra Rudman, who is discovered to be missing in addition to her car.
While the NYPD is simultaneously dealing with rumblings of an armored car robbery, Alexandra's body is found strangled with a note from Webster boasting of his involvement with an unsolved strangulation in Battery Park.
As NYPD Detectives Andy Sipowicz and Bobby Simone discover, a "mugging" survivor—who had an affair with the unsolved victim in question—has a bullet in his gluteals matching previous Webster murders.
When interrogated by NYPD Detectives Bobby Simone and Arnold Solomon, Putnam behaves in an evasive manner before being placed in the holding cell.
In his subsequent appearance, Putnam admits to stealing Alexandra's car, and then makes a comment at the expense of the NYPD's competence, while Simone humors Putnam by changing the thermostat in the hopes of getting Putnam to slip up.
Detective Archie Solomon confrontationally attempts his own hand at interrogating Putnam, accusing him of committing two double-homicides in 1989. Meanwhile, Simone finds a .22 caliber zip-gun in Putnam's air conditioning, the same caliber as the Webster murders.
While Simone discusses how Putnam chose to reveal the location of the gun, Putnam reveals his misogynistic and misanthropic motives, claiming that his murders spare men from relationships, implying that he had been carrying out similar murders in Broward County, Florida. Then he reveals the switch in modus operandi was due to a Groin Attack from a victim.
In his final appearance, Putnam is revealed to have killed two people as a bandit before his serial killings, only to be murdered at the behest of Alexandra's father, Arnold Rudman.
Is he heinous by the standard of the work?
From an attempted body count perspective, he might be ok with 9 kills and one attempted, plus two robbery homicides. He also killed 2 people before becoming a Serial Killer. That would put him among the criminals with the highest body counts in this series, with only a few criminals, like Spree Killer, Steve Capers having a similar body count. I will propose a few other serial killers, with lower body counts, but make up for it by being more brutal, but Webster definitely has a high body count for this series.
A bullet from the gluteals of a survivor is tied to him, his zip gun is proven to be a match to 6 other killings, and we see two people he stabbed and/or strangled. Offscreen Villainy is a non-issue.
Any Freudian Excuse or other redeeming qualities?
Doesn't actually care about other men, he is just a misogynistic/misanthropic sadist. No redeeming qualities.
Final Verdict?
Webster's dictionary defines this guy as a keeper.
Edited by Overlord on Mar 31st 2024 at 7:55:46 AM
Not the Eye
Dictionary Killer
Abstain on Colonel Podovsky
I’ll take a potato chip… and EAT IT!
Goku Black
Webster killer
Jogo
Webster Dictionary Killer
Unofficial Wiki Curator for Complete Monster
My issue is I do feel the narrative tries to draw some humanity to her: alone I wouldn't put much in her brushing aside Trevor asking her to dance saying she's not leaving the side of the man who believes in her but when Ares takes her mask to show Diana her facial wound the heroine does show pity for her in a scene where the villain's shown powerless and terrified and it comes shortly before her "They're so much more" response to Ares' Humans Are Flawed claim. I don't think she's meant to be seen as pure evil.