Not Tropeworthy: Fuku Fic

To those suggesting turning it into a Fan Speak page, is it real Anime Fanspeak, as opposed to something we made up?

Takahashi Couple was claimed to be Anime Fanspeak despite it simply being the original name of Belligerent Sexual Tension (which was renamed from Takahashi Couple because it was unclear, then renamed again from When a Jerk Loves a Tsundere because it was still unclear) repurposed as The Same, but More Specific to it due to it explicitly being for Belligerent Sexual Tension examples from a single creator.

For context, when Takahashi Couple's TRS thread was still ongoing, I did a Google search for the term and every usage of the term as defined by TV Tropes (as opposed to a handful of results for people with the surname Takahashi) was in conjunction with references to tropes using the names TV Tropes coined for them (i.e., in the context of Conversational Troping).

Edited by GastonRabbit on Mar 1st 2022 at 9:28:24 AM

I could be wrong but I don't think it's something we made up. I found it on old fanfic sites (with no ties to TVT) when I googled it. I think it's actual fanfic jargon. I think there's a site just for those types of fanfics as well. I never heard of it outside of tvtropes because I never read those types of fanfics.

Edited by MacronNotes on Mar 1st 2022 at 10:52:42 AM

I've got to be honest, I don't see the purpose of making a fanspeak page for something that only applies to a specific fan crossover. Is this term used in other fandoms?

I mean, if it's actual fandom jargon, then... why not?

The forum where this sort of fic apparently originated states that it doesn't actually have to be a crossover, just that the fic features Ranma wearing an outfit that resembles the Sailor Senshi costume. Whether this makes it more or less noteworthy, I'm not actually sure.

source.

Edited by Adept on Mar 2nd 2022 at 12:09:40 AM

Sounds like maintaining a low barrier for entry. (I like how the next post argues that whenever Ranma magically becomes a girl he is by definition a magical girl.) :P

Still, that does prove we didn't start the fuku it's a preexisting term, not one TV Tropes accidentally originated.

But is it really worth it to document a fan term that's specific to a certain fandom?

My personal take is that neither term really works for a fanspeak page.

The definition as it is now is Too Rare to Trope, which would make it probably not worth the fanspeak page, and that alternate definition is just Ranma when wearing a certain outfit.

Just because something is a term used by a fandom doesn't mean it needs a dedicated fanspeak page, especially when it fits under other tropes just fine as is.

Disambiguation seems to be the best option so far. I just wanted to explore how feasible it would be to make a Fanspeak page. I guess if it had more wicks a Fanspeak definition only page would be a little more justified.

Look, I don't particularly care if we fanspeak it or not, I'm just saying we could.

We could also just put the fan meaning on the disambig page while still keeping it a disambig page.

Like Stuffed into the Fridge.

With a very brief description, but probably yes.

Been wanting to deal with this for years.

Disambiguate or whatever. It's not tropeworthy.

Edited by Karxrida on Mar 2nd 2022 at 12:05:19 PM

Honestly it probably took so long because a lot of the arguing in favor of a cut/disambig was focused on it being an alleged Dead Horse Trope and not, well, being redundant with other pages, or the page itself being rather poorly maintained and wick starved.

Or maybe 5 years has changed people's attitudes towards keeping old TV Tropes relics that serve no real purpose and haven't earned a lot of endearment. I know the first TRS thread for this had at least one person say "yeah it would never even make it off of the launchpad today, but so what?"

More on topic discussion, I am neutral on it getting a Fan Speak page but personally would not give it one, although I can understand if it does get one.

Or also, nobody knew it exists because it wasn't thriving and nobody was willing to do a TRS.

I'm not sure how Fan Speak works, but is it an actual fanspeak or just a category that exists only within small portions of Ranma fandom?

Edited by Amonimus on Mar 2nd 2022 at 11:27:23 PM

It seems to really only be a term used by a portion of Ranma/Sailor Moon Fans, and as posted upthread, the definition there is inconsistent with the one on the trope page. (The definition Adept found says that the only requirement is that it has to feature Ranma in female form wearing an outfit resembling a Sailor Senshi costume, while the onpage is a more specific setup that has to be a Sailor Moon/Ranma 1/2 Crossover where Ranma becomes one of the Sailors.)

I'd say... yeah that makes me even less motivated to want to Fan Speak it.

Disambig. Neutral on fanspeaking it.

I thought there was a previous TRS thread on this trope that went nowhere because a bunch of tropers voted against doing anything.

Don't know if it's relevant to your comment but we usually don't include "do nothing" options on crowners anymore which was I believe why the previous thread didn't go anywhere.

TRS was less active then than it was today, and that was before we started advertising crowners on ATT (though I'm pretty sure that thread clocked out without having a crowner).

it did get a crowner, but it was a no action crowner which, iirc (forgive me, not here nearly as long as a lot of people) are not a thing the TRS does anymore.

Disambig between the Fan Works pages and Magical Girl AU. I see no need to make it fanspeak. Other fandoms have fandom-specific fic genres that don't warrant entire pages (using an example from a current fandom, Total Drama fandom often uses the term "competition fic" for fics following the show's competition format).

And it's The Same, but More Specific - what makes any other crossover except crossovers between Ranma ½ and Sailor Moon unworthy of having a specific page?

I forgot to mention that I'm still in favor of disambiguating. I don't think this is worth keeping even as a Fan Speak page, especially because our definition doesn't even appear to be the original.