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Anddrix Since: Oct, 2014
#1: Mar 1st 2021 at 8:04:42 AM

Scapegoat Creator is supposed to when fans of a work blame one creator regardless of their involvement or if there were external factors at work.

However a lot of examples simply list any complaints against the creator, without explaining why said complaints or backlash is unfair or misblamed, ignoring the "Scapegoat" part.

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So tallied up that's:

  • Index: 3.2%
  • Pothole: 19.15%
  • Used as part of a sentence, doesn't have enough context to see if it’s being used correctly: 7.9%
  • Used as part of a sentence, context makes it clear it's being used correctly: 4.8%
  • Link Back to Main Page: 1.6%
  • Defines it correctly: 1.6%
  • Correct: 26.98%
  • Doesn't mention why the blame is unfair: 30.16%
  • Misuse: 3.2%
  • Other: 1.6%

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#2: Apr 14th 2021 at 6:44:18 AM

Sorry for the wait, ~Anddrix. We had a bit of backlog cleared away, so opened.

We'll need to add some clarification, though not sure how.

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jandn2014 Very Spooky from somewhere in Connecticut Since: Aug, 2017 Relationship Status: Hiding
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#3: Apr 14th 2021 at 6:58:59 AM

Maybe rename it to Misblamed Creator or something among those lines?

Edited by jandn2014 on Apr 14th 2021 at 10:37:04 AM

back lol
Berrenta How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
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#4: Apr 14th 2021 at 7:06:44 AM

[up] I was considering that possibility, too.

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#6: Apr 14th 2021 at 10:09:21 AM

[up] Given that Scapegoat Creator has a section in the description of Misblamed, I assume it's supposed to be a subtrope.

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#7: Apr 14th 2021 at 3:46:24 PM

Misblamed Creator is at least an improvement over the current name, but I'll see if any more suggestions come up.

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#9: Apr 15th 2021 at 7:15:28 PM

I'm honestly not seeing a big enough difference between this and Misblamed to justify them being split, tbh.

Edited by WarJay77 on Apr 15th 2021 at 10:15:36 AM

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Kevjro7 Susjection! Since: Jan, 2020
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#11: Apr 29th 2021 at 8:53:43 AM

Turn SC into a redirect for Mis-blamed. I agree with WarJay that there isn't a good reason for splitting them.

GastonRabbit Sounds good on paper (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
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#13: May 7th 2021 at 5:24:36 AM

Agreed with redirecting.

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Delibirda from Splatsville Since: Sep, 2020 Relationship Status: I wanna be your dog
#14: May 7th 2021 at 5:27:45 AM

They are almost duplicates so yeah.

"Listen up, Marina, because this is SUPER important. Whatever you do, don't eat th“ “DON'T EAT WHAT?! Your text box ran out of space!”
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#15: May 7th 2021 at 6:28:34 AM

I actually forgot about this thread, but since it's been open since the middle of last month, I made a crowner to get this out of the way.

Link to crowner.

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#16: May 7th 2021 at 7:36:57 AM

Hooked.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
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#17: May 11th 2021 at 6:36:10 PM

Looks like we're going with merge+redirect. Calling.

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#18: May 12th 2021 at 8:58:30 PM

I ran through the Main/ wicks.

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Ferot_Dreadnaught Since: Mar, 2015
#19: May 16th 2021 at 4:25:43 PM

Down to 258 wicks. What to do about this example?

YMMV.My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic

  • Scapegoat Creator:
    • Merriwether Williams has become the prime target for fandom scorn. Unfortunately her first aired episode was not the best hoof to start out on, and since then, arguments have mutated from her just not getting the show, to more than a few fans pinning everything they dislike about Season 2 on Merriwether's shoulders. Merely mentioning her name on many fan sites can cause an immediate Flame War. Never mind that she's just the writer, and has to go through editors and other members of the production team before her episodes are aired, or that she's helped write great episodes on other shows before FiM *cough Band Geeks cough*. No, she's just a bad writer that doesn't "get the show."
      • This hits incredible levels of Fridge Logic when you consider that her next episode "Hearth's Warming Eve" was extremely well received by a majority of the fanbase, and her episode "Wonderbolts Academy" was considered one of the high points of Season 3.
    • It got even more ridiculous with Season 4's "Bats!" Initial fan reaction to the episode was positive, but once word began circulating that Meghan McCarthy's writing credit was in error and it was actually Williams who wrote the episode, suddenly some fans didn't like it so much (though plenty of people still liked the episode, and there were some people who didn't like the episode even before this was revealed).

The first bullet is in need of trimming but valid. The second I'm not sure about as a mix of good/bad works doesn't necessarily mean the complaints against the bad aren't legit. The third bullet doesn't seem to fit, might it be mored to Creator Worship for Meghan McCarthy or any other trope?

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#20: May 17th 2021 at 1:44:54 AM

The third bullet can go, I'd park the first on the discussion page to see if anyone has input.

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Delibirda from Splatsville Since: Sep, 2020 Relationship Status: I wanna be your dog
#21: May 17th 2021 at 7:42:11 AM

[up][up]That's a lotta natter.

"Listen up, Marina, because this is SUPER important. Whatever you do, don't eat th“ “DON'T EAT WHAT?! Your text box ran out of space!”
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#23: May 19th 2021 at 2:20:13 AM

Yes.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Ferot_Dreadnaught Since: Mar, 2015
#24: May 20th 2021 at 1:43:49 AM

[up]Moved. Down to 178 wicks.

Delibirda from Splatsville Since: Sep, 2020 Relationship Status: I wanna be your dog
#25: May 20th 2021 at 3:31:09 AM

So, what are we going to do now?

"Listen up, Marina, because this is SUPER important. Whatever you do, don't eat th“ “DON'T EAT WHAT?! Your text box ran out of space!”

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What should be done with Scapegoat Creator? Options are mutually exclusive.

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