Sorry for the wait, ~Anddrix. We had a bit of backlog cleared away, so opened.
We'll need to add some clarification, though not sure how.
she/her | TRS needs your help! | Contributor of Trope ReportMaybe rename it to Misblamed Creator or something among those lines?
Edited by jandn2014 on Apr 14th 2021 at 10:37:04 AM
back lolI was considering that possibility, too.
she/her | TRS needs your help! | Contributor of Trope ReportHow is this different from Mis-blamed, though?
Rock'n'roll never dies!Given that Scapegoat Creator has a section in the description of Misblamed, I assume it's supposed to be a subtrope.
Misblamed Creator is at least an improvement over the current name, but I'll see if any more suggestions come up.
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.Agreed. I can't come up with anything else myself.
TRS Queue | Works That Require Cleanup of Complaining | Troper WallI'm honestly not seeing a big enough difference between this and Misblamed to justify them being split, tbh.
Edited by WarJay77 on Apr 15th 2021 at 10:15:36 AM
Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure PurenessBumping. Any other ideas on how to save this trope?
TRS Queue | Works That Require Cleanup of Complaining | Troper WallTurn SC into a redirect for Mis-blamed. I agree with WarJay that there isn't a good reason for splitting them.
I agree.
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.Agreed with redirecting.
Currently mostly inactive. An incremental game I tested: https://galaxy.click/play/176 (Gods of Incremental)They are almost duplicates so yeah.
"Listen up, Marina, because this is SUPER important. Whatever you do, don't eat th“ “DON'T EAT WHAT?! Your text box ran out of space!”I actually forgot about this thread, but since it's been open since the middle of last month, I made a crowner to get this out of the way.
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.Hooked.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanLooks like we're going with merge+redirect. Calling.
she/her | TRS needs your help! | Contributor of Trope ReportI ran through the Main/ wicks.
Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure PurenessDown to 258 wicks. What to do about this example?
YMMV.My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic
- Scapegoat Creator:
- Merriwether Williams has become the prime target for fandom scorn. Unfortunately her first aired episode was not the best hoof to start out on, and since then, arguments have mutated from her just not getting the show, to more than a few fans pinning everything they dislike about Season 2 on Merriwether's shoulders. Merely mentioning her name on many fan sites can cause an immediate Flame War. Never mind that she's just the writer, and has to go through editors and other members of the production team before her episodes are aired, or that she's helped write great episodes on other shows before FiM *cough Band Geeks cough*. No, she's just a bad writer that doesn't "get the show."
- This hits incredible levels of Fridge Logic when you consider that her next episode "Hearth's Warming Eve" was extremely well received by a majority of the fanbase, and her episode "Wonderbolts Academy" was considered one of the high points of Season 3.
- It got even more ridiculous with Season 4's "Bats!" Initial fan reaction to the episode was positive, but once word began circulating that Meghan McCarthy's writing credit was in error and it was actually Williams who wrote the episode, suddenly some fans didn't like it so much (though plenty of people still liked the episode, and there were some people who didn't like the episode even before this was revealed).
- Merriwether Williams has become the prime target for fandom scorn. Unfortunately her first aired episode was not the best hoof to start out on, and since then, arguments have mutated from her just not getting the show, to more than a few fans pinning everything they dislike about Season 2 on Merriwether's shoulders. Merely mentioning her name on many fan sites can cause an immediate Flame War. Never mind that she's just the writer, and has to go through editors and other members of the production team before her episodes are aired, or that she's helped write great episodes on other shows before FiM *cough Band Geeks cough*. No, she's just a bad writer that doesn't "get the show."
The first bullet is in need of trimming but valid. The second I'm not sure about as a mix of good/bad works doesn't necessarily mean the complaints against the bad aren't legit. The third bullet doesn't seem to fit, might it be mored to Creator Worship for Meghan McCarthy or any other trope?
The third bullet can go, I'd park the first on the discussion page to see if anyone has input.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanThat's a lotta natter.
"Listen up, Marina, because this is SUPER important. Whatever you do, don't eat th“ “DON'T EAT WHAT?! Your text box ran out of space!”Yes.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanMoved. Down to 178 wicks.
So, what are we going to do now?
"Listen up, Marina, because this is SUPER important. Whatever you do, don't eat th“ “DON'T EAT WHAT?! Your text box ran out of space!”
Crown Description:
What should be done with Scapegoat Creator? Options are mutually exclusive.
Scapegoat Creator is supposed to when fans of a work blame one creator regardless of their involvement or if there were external factors at work.
However a lot of examples simply list any complaints against the creator, without explaining why said complaints or backlash is unfair or misblamed, ignoring the "Scapegoat" part.
Wick Check:
So tallied up that's: