Fact Checking Thread

That's a very glaring case of Fan Myopia; I imagine the show only seems like it's "taken over" websites if you're isolated to whatever niche community you're in. Cut.

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The example is a chunk of a huge thread on Digimon Adventure 02

• There was a lot of humor that poked fun and lampshaded Davis' arrogant and ignorant characteristics in the dub. Some interpreted this as an insult and assumed the the Japanese version of Davis was much different. This was categorically denied by the production; turns out it was a well-intentioned running gag that people took too seriously. In fact, a lot of the instances where Davis is being an idiot, inconsiderate or generally acting like a jerk are almost the same in the original Japanese version. The only difference is that in the English version, most of these instances are lampshaded by the other characters, and because this occurs quite often it ends up looking like the writers had something against Davis when in reality they were just translating his dialogue. However, many fans swore that the Japanese Davis was different (read: smarter) despite having never seen the original version of 02. One example of a "Davis-is-an-idiot" joke has Kari show him her day planner, and Davis mistakes the date (8/1) for a fraction, and everyone laughs. This joke is almost exactly the same in both versions.

I have a bit of a problem with this one example. While yes, Daisuke IS a major idiot hero, and very silly and again, idiotic, in the dub they take it into overdrive and someone who watches the who watches the sub will get a MUCH more different opinion on him than the dub. If one REALLY wants to defend the dub without actually whitewashing its faults should mention that most of the forced humor and character bashing was the result of Executive Meddling. The writers really didnt want to do it but were forced to. In one interview Jeff Nimoy was asked about his least liked character and he KNEW people thought he hated him and said he actually loved him (And Veemon even more.)

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So there was a claim I added a while ago on YMMV.Rhythm Heaven on a Ho Yay entry, based on something I'd read, that "neko" is slang for a gay bottom (in reference to characters who are Ambiguously Gay cats). This was removed as "misinformation," with the troper claiming it's actually Japanese slang for a lesbian. On the wiki itself, Boys' Love Notes lists "neko" as an alternate to Uke, but Uke indeed claims "neko" is used in the Yuri Genre.

However, offsite, Urban Dictionary does indeed claim it means "gay bottom" in a way that implies it's for men. This site also suggests it's used for gay men, and this site says it's slang for "bottom" with no mention of gender. Wiktionary calls it "gay and lesbian slang" for a bottom. So ultimately I think there's evidence it can refer to either gender, but I am not an expert in Japanese slang.

Edited by mightymewtron on Apr 10th 2024 at 6:40:40 AM

I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.

• Ripped from the Headlines: The overt pro-trans message of "Now I'm Your Mom" was directly inspired by the controversy surrounding the then-recent film adaptation of The Silence of the Lambs, directed by Byrne associate Jonathan Demme and criticized on release for its carryover of the book's anti-trans stereotypes.

(Album is Uh-Oh by David Byrne) So, I wanted to know if there’s any evidence for this being..true? I tried looking it up for myself, but couldn’t find any interviews where David Byrne mentions that as an influence- and there’s no allusion to the film in the lyrics. And tbh, it seems kindaaaa weird to just say that they’re connected because they discuss transness, especially because “Now I’m Your Mom” is genuinely about a trans woman (even if a fair portion of its lyrics have aged..poorly).

It's definitely misuse as it would have to have overt references to qualify for Ripped from the Headlines. If true, this would be trivia and Inspiration for the Work.

thanks. I’ll cut it for now and if I discover it’s true, I’ll add it to Trivia.

On Creator's Apathy

• Sonic Heroes: One of the developers of the game contacted Arin Hanson while he was playing the game on Game Grumps, revealing that the reason for the numerous amount of glitches in the game (especially the PS2 version) was because in order to get the game out by the end of the year, Sega made a mandate that they couldn't fix glitches unless they were game breaking ones, saying for players to just "push through them".^note Of course, it didn't really help that back then Sony was making thinly-veiled threats to dev companies that they would deal out consequences to them if they didn't release a PS2 version of their games, leading to the game's rushed state.

Does anyone have a source for the note? It seems like a myth. I feel like the better explanation is that there would’ve been financial consequences if they didn’t make a PS2 version, not from Sony, but from the fact that the PS2 was the most popular console in that generation by a country mile.

Edited by PlasmaPower on Apr 24th 2024 at 1:07:53 AM

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Somewhere in: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaQVR_wmYqE

Title: "Arin shares a PRIVATE NOTE from a Sonic Heroes developer! - Sonic Heroes: PART 13 "

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https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=CommonlyMisusedWords.VeryPedantic&troper_name=&edit_content=hired

Any source corroborating any of this?

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That's an easy cut, as there's no evidence of the Yiddish etymology.

(Honestly, a good portion of the Very Pedantic page is the same. This is one big holdover from the You Keep Using That Word era.)

I had a dog-themed avatar before it was cool.

- https://ahdictionary.com/word/search.html?q=gun+moll

"Gun" as "thief" does seem to be British slang, but no relation to "hired gun", it seems.

EDIT: But yeah, I cut the "hired gun" bit since that's not pedantic.

Edited by Malady on Apr 28th 2024 at 1:29:23 AM

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Commonly Misused Words would really benefit from needing to cite sources honestly.

They are fun pages but a lot of entries make me go "Uhhh, citation needed??"

Same here for Science Marches On - I love finding out how our understanding of real science has evolved since a work came out, but it feels weird to see examples that just say "a recent study" or "later studies have found this" without any actual citations.

On Characters.Unicorn Overlord Cornia, someone added that Aaron LaPlante and Cherami Leigh voiced the characters Mordon and Berenice respectively. Problem is, the only source for this, the game's BTVA page, the credits for the character has an ear (meaning that this is Highly speculative based on hearing the character's voice) which means it runs afoul of speculation. Notably, I removed them in the past for the same reasons but I don't want to cause a possible edit war so I'm asking here.

She/Her | Currently cleaning N/A

StayInTheKitchen.Video Games: Nothing on the game page says that the female lead can't feed herself?

Seems like it's talking about 2 Artificial Stupidity for that part.

• The whole point of Lost in Blue. Upon meeting the female lead, the male lead steps on her glasses, thus confining her to a cave and making her responsible for cooking, cleaning, and handicrafts. She also can't do anything outside the cave by herself and is likely to starve to death no matter how much food and water you leave for her.

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Characters.Hell Girl Hell Correspondence claims that a villain of the week L'Enfer makes a reappearance in a pachinko spin-off. I couldn't find a footage and the user who's added it is bounced.

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Teen Warlock says it's only 31 minutes long, but not sure how that makes sense with what looks like the right IMDB entry being 78 minutes long:

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5227606/

The poster says "double feature", I missed that. Not sure what the right title is.

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