On this site, I've often ran into the problem of not being able to find anything from a giant list of examples on a trope page because it wasn't alphabetically ordered (this is a bigger problem with example pages because they are so large). This can also cause the problem of duplicate works on the same example section, because a work couldn't easily be found.
Even though I'm a rather disorganized person by nature (my parents told me this all the time), I'm still bothered by the lack of A-Z ordering. I have been ordering some example pages A-Z and I've wondering, has this been a problem for anyone else? Is anyone else bothered by a lack of alphabetization on some pages?
If so, please link me some of those pages so I can reorder them when I feel like doing so.
UPDATE 2/28/22- Check Out Sandbox- Alphabetically Ordering Examples Clean Up
Alphabetizing special cases:
- El Goonish Shive: Place in "E".
- .hack and related articles: Ignore the dot, place in "H".
- ×××HOLiC: Place in "X".
Once examples on a page have been alphabetized, this tag can be added to the top:
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MemeticBadass.Anime And Manga is mostly alphabetized except One-Punch Man is put last due to this commented out note:
NOTE: Request that Saitama's entry in this page be made as the very last.
The example reads as such:
- And last, but not least... Saitama, the titular One-Punch Man… (cont.)
I like OPM, but I have no idea why it would warrant special treatment. Should it be placed in a normal alphabetical order?
Edited by antenna_ears on Dec 4th 2021 at 7:16:52 AM
I'm helping!
That was added by ~Cel Prev XXVI in 2016 with no edit reason. Nothing on the discussion page about it either. It looks like it was just one guy deciding on a thing.
CG for short
Yeah, just put in alphabetical order, citing this thread.
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So I alphabetised People Farms while crosswicking for Oliver Twistednote , though there are one or two examples which baffle me in where to arrange them.
- The Rance III example in Video Games gives its game studio's page, AliceSoft. I alphabetised by Rance III instead of the studio name but I'm uncertain because the example has the studio's name at the front of it.
- There's one example which simultaneously covers two books, likely those in a series, neither of which has a page (In Death Ground and The Shiva Option by David Weber and Steven White). I alphabetised by the first title In Death Ground, note as that's where the context I added from looking it up appears to be from (no mention of a people farm in the latter's plot summary).
"Scooby-Doo" Hoax has a notice at the top that says it's been alphabetized, but the Western Animation folder at least needs some work.
I went through VideoGames.SayMyName, not sure about the other subpages, and the main page looks fine on quick glance, but that's all I've managed to do.
Side Note: that trope really does have a lot of ZCEs
CSP Cleanup Thread | All that I ask for ... is diamonds and dance floors
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Are Music folders supposed to be alphabetized by the name of the song, or the name of the singer/band?
Check out my forum game: Rate the above YMMV.
By band/singer.
Nintendo Fanatic Extraordinaire
The Other folder in Woolseyism.Video Games is practically disordered.
I have attempted to clean it up by putting some of the longer examples in their own folders.
Kirby is awesome.
Continuing with alphabetizing bands/singers, if there's a mix of both, should solo artists be alphabetized by given name or surname?
Surname. See How to Alphabetize Things:
Struggling with how to alphabetize this Web Video folder on Five-Second Foreshadowing. I currently have it laid out like this:
- Achievement Hunter released the video Cleaning Gavin's Desk. Long story short, Jeremy did a silly thing to Gavin's desk despite both of them being repeatedly told it wasn't a good idea. Michael's reaction after says it all.
Michael: Remember when I said it was gonna break?
- The Angry Video Game Nerd devotes an entire mini-rant to heavily chastizing the Frankenstein NES adaptation for doing this, by having a fallen soldier mention a monster roaming in the woods right before you encounter and fight it as a boss:
Nerd: Then immediately, you fight the evil He-Monster and She-Monster of the trees, which is what the guy just told us about. Doesn't it seem cheap, that right after he tells us about a certain monster they appear? It doesn't build up any mystery. Remember the first Zelda game? You knew that you had to fight Ganon, the instruction manual talked about him, characters in the game talked about him. But at the time, nobody knew what Ganon looked like. It created all this suspense. But imagine if they never talked about him until right before you walked into that room. It's like: "Oh, there's this monster you gotta fight. Oh, there's the monster! Fight him!"
- Having started recording before determining who gets what starter in Mario Party TV Group Nuzlocke of FireRed/LeafGreen, Steeler comments that the Random Number God will probably determine that Holms ends up with Squirtle when he's the only one not interested in running him. Sure enough...
- A particularly hilarious example occurs in the 4-player Battletoads race between ProtonJon, Super Jeenius, PCULL 44444, and NintendoCapriSun, when Patrick is having trouble with a shark in Terra Tubes:
Patrick: I was doing, I was doing alright and then the shark started killing me and then I dodged him and he's chasing me and it's making me sad, but I'm going through this thing quickly now... and he's gonna make me die on these spikes down here— SHIT! *Achievement Unlocked! Called It: Narrated your own death*
- Potter Puppet Pals: "Hey, everyone! I found the source of the ticking; it's a pipe bomb!" "Yay!" BOOM
- The Runaway Guys get into this quite a bit, especially with Jon's dice throws.
Emile: Jon always rolls ones, it's his thing.
Jon: *demonstrates this* - Sword Art Online Abridged: Princess Leafa, introduced towards the end of episode 13, shares a lot of characters traits with Episode 1 Kirito: Snarky, Lack of Empathy, superiority complex, starting exposition with "For you see!"... For good reason: at the end of episode 14, Leafa's player Suguha finds out Kirito is her real-life stepbrother... and she said he had a nice ass.
but the mix of Web Video, Creator, Lets Play, and Video Game tags kind of has me thrown for a loop, particularly in examples with multiple people in them. CSP Cleanup Thread | All that I ask for ... is diamonds and dance floors
Well, I ask because a recent edit to Signature Line alphabetized the Music folder by the first letter in the artist's name. This includes a couple of solo artists who use their full names professionally. (Avril Lavigne and Neil Young.) Would it be alright to correct this order?
Yes. Make sure to cite the policy page or this thread in your edit reason.
Other than the 4-player example (I'm not sure sure what to do with it either), looks good to me.
Nintendo Fanatic Extraordinaire
It would be great if Woolseyism.Video Games were to be sorted, especially in the Other folder.
Kirby is awesome.
Yeah, that folder should also probably be split into genres while we're at it.
Nintendo Fanatic Extraordinaire
I strongly agree.
The page could be soft-split by genre and folders for specific series (and others for video games not belonging to a series).
Given that Woolseyism is a translation trope, it would also make sense to have one folder be for Western video games as the vast majority of examples are for Japanese video games.
Edited by Nen_desharu on Jan 18th 2022 at 10:01:56 AM
Kirby is awesome.
I'm wondering if it would be better to hard split the RPG page (and have that page soft split between East and West) since that folder by itself is over 42K bytes (half the page total).
Nintendo Fanatic Extraordinaire
That would be a much better idea.
Nintendo Fanatic Extraordinaire
BribingYourWayToVictory.Video Games is a huge mess.
It would be great to alphabetize and folderize the page.
Given the length, it would be great to create some pages for larger genres, such as Idle Games (as the majority of games using this trope are mobile games, particularly in the Idle Game genre) and MMOs, especially those from East Asia.
Edited by Nen_desharu on Feb 24th 2022 at 3:43:11 PM
Kirby is awesome.
The Wanderer
I feel like there should be a Sandbox for pages that need alphabetizing as well.
Eating a Vanilluxe will give you frostbite.
Nintendo Fanatic Extraordinaire
I strongly agree, given that there are numerous pages, especially trope subpages, that need to be alphabetized.
the Retromancer
Sandbox creation is a free action.
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