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So this is a place for people who are interested in helping out, or getting help with, wick checks. Maybe you just want people to double-check your work before you submit it to the TRS, or maybe you have a big project in mind and can't tackle it on your own. Either way, you've come to the right place!

Remember to check out How to Do a Wick Check for a run down, and feel free to browse Tropes Needing TRS if you need ideas for what trope to do a wick-check for.

For the list of current and completed projects, see Wick Check Project. Once your wick check is done and ready to go to a TRS thread, see the TRS Queue.

Edited by WarJay77 on Nov 4th 2022 at 11:55:13 AM

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#1701: Feb 10th 2022 at 11:52:14 AM

[up] Oh no, I actually do see value in Stock Parody Jokes. It is a real phenomenon—stuff like the Mario mushroom jokes I mentioned in the wick check aren't quite memes, but they are something worth documenting.

I don't really know what to do with the trope, but maybe we could impose tighter standards on what counts? That's more of a question for the TRS thread though I guess.

Edited by themayorofsimpleton on Feb 10th 2022 at 2:52:26 PM

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#1702: Feb 10th 2022 at 11:54:42 AM

Yeah, that's one reason I suggested you sort of just make folders as you go and don't worry so much about finding specific patterns.

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SkyCat32 The Draftsman of Doom from NYPD (Five Year Plan) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
The Draftsman of Doom
#1704: Feb 11th 2022 at 11:50:47 AM

I'd like to get a wick check done for Adaptation Personality Change and its subtropes, particularly Adaptational Heroism & Adaptational Nice Guy, which have been shoehorned for villains which still have no redeeming qualities, but lack particular damning qualities that the originals had.

I would go so far as to argue that Adaptational Villainy and Adaptational Heroism can be merged into "Adaptational Morality Adjustment" to account for such cases.

Thing is, this accounts for multiple tropes and I don't know how to go about it.

[down] I intend to get to it after Shabbat.

Edited by SkyCat32 on Feb 11th 2022 at 3:20:54 PM

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WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition (Troper Knight)
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
#1705: Feb 11th 2022 at 12:15:35 PM

In the past, people have handled things like that a few ways, most obviously by just doing two wick checks on the same sandbox and comparing the results. You can also just do them separate and then compare, or only do one of them but then have a folder dedicated to overlap, either with specific examples being repeated or with examples that should go under a certain folder.

Edited by WarJay77 on Feb 11th 2022 at 3:16:55 PM

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Wafer The Mask Does Not Laugh Since: Oct, 2021 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The Mask Does Not Laugh
#1706: Feb 11th 2022 at 5:43:14 PM

Can someone do a wick check for Girls Are Really Scared of Horror Movies? I feel like it's been misused for "girls don't like horror" and not "in a couple, the girl is the most scared", which is what the description seems to indicate.

If we broaden it to make it fit the former definition as well, then I think that would just make it People Sit on Chairs...

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#1707: Feb 11th 2022 at 9:34:29 PM

I don't recall seeing an example of it mentioning couples.

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#1708: Feb 13th 2022 at 5:05:48 PM

I heard that Creator Killer is supposed to be for companies only, not people. Is that true? If so, I think I might need to start another wick check.

gjjones Musician/Composer from South Wales, New York Since: Jul, 2016
Musician/Composer
#1709: Feb 13th 2022 at 5:07:54 PM

Actually, it's also for people as well.

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#1710: Feb 13th 2022 at 5:15:18 PM

[up]I recall somebody mentioning otherwise in a recent ATT thread. Either the troper was mistaken, or I was misremembering.

MasterN Berserk Button: misusing Berserk Button from Florida- I mean Unova Since: Aug, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#1711: Feb 14th 2022 at 8:10:09 AM

[up][up][up][up] The page image?

By the way, just here to ask for a little more help who the Berserk Button Wick Check, as it is a lot of effort.

Edited by MasterN on Feb 14th 2022 at 8:10:23 AM

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Nightshade92 from The Big Rotten Apple Since: Mar, 2021 Relationship Status: Remembering what Mama said
#1712: Feb 14th 2022 at 9:28:25 AM

[up] I can try to help out with that one.

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magnumtropus Since: Aug, 2020
#1713: Feb 15th 2022 at 6:09:57 AM

Flagship Franchise needs a wick check and quite possibly a retool. This Trope Talk thread summarizes the issues with the trope. I removed a few examples myself beforehand

Flagship Franchise Wick Check - The Sandbox

Edited by magnumtropus on Feb 15th 2022 at 2:24:36 PM

Tonwen HoMM Fan from Axeoth Since: Dec, 2021 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
HoMM Fan
#1714: Feb 15th 2022 at 1:04:58 PM

I added Pay Phone to the TRS queue and there seems to be a mostly incomplete wick check already in progress at Pay Phone Wick Check

Will probably start contributing to it myself so it's ready by the time my slot is reached.

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Amonimus the Retromancer from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the Retromancer
#1715: Feb 15th 2022 at 1:08:44 PM

"Specific Pay Phone tropes" sounds like something the Salvage Yard coukd take, but the age itself... if it just describes a normal object, it's not a trope. Actually, I've seen Diary a lot recently and feel the same.

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#1716: Feb 15th 2022 at 1:16:42 PM

[up] Speaking of Diary, why is the page split between fictional examples and diaries appearing in fictional works?

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#1718: Feb 15th 2022 at 1:28:02 PM

[up][up][up][up] It appears that ~callmeamuffin created the wick check.

callmeamuffin, do you specifically want to be the one to take this to TRS, or can someone else take it?

Edited by themayorofsimpleton on Feb 15th 2022 at 4:28:21 AM

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WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition (Troper Knight)
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#1719: Feb 15th 2022 at 1:45:42 PM

Wow, I had no idea Diary existed. Usually when I see it it's in the context of someone reading someone else's diary, a la Secret Diary.

Edited by WarJay77 on Feb 15th 2022 at 4:47:17 AM

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#1720: Feb 15th 2022 at 2:04:44 PM

Diary sounds like a textbook case of PSOC. A disambig probably wouldn't be very controversial there.

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#1722: Feb 15th 2022 at 3:40:54 PM

Sure, I would like the bring the trope to TRS and complete the wick check. I'm struggling on how to sort the examples, so is it okay if I ask for help?

Edited by callmeamuffin on Feb 15th 2022 at 9:52:21 PM

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#1723: Feb 15th 2022 at 3:45:55 PM

[up] Yeah we can help you. Although I've had a rough painful emotional weekend so I can't really do much wick checking yet, but once I've recovered I'll see what I can do.

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#1724: Feb 15th 2022 at 4:19:13 PM

The big question I am wondering is how the Meaningful Pay Phone examples should be categorized. Is it okay as it is right now, until the wick check is complete?

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#1725: Feb 15th 2022 at 4:23:39 PM

When I am dealing with a trope with a bad ZCE problem, I usually dump the examples that have some sort of meaning to them into a "Trope + Additional Context" folder.

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