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Sorry for the wait, ~rjd1922
A depreciated name style does warrant a thread, so opened. Title 2000 can work.
Edited by Berrenta on Feb 23rd 2020 at 2:12:19 PM
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Renaming it to Title 2000.
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Agreed.
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Sure.
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I disagree; I think this is a Naming Convention, but not a Title Trope. The trope name shouldn't include "title" in the name, and should instead indicate what the number is supposed to mean. Knight Industries Two Thousand is the name of a car, not the title of the work. HAL 9000 is the name of a computer, not the title of the work.
There are a couple additional redirects that we could use, such as Noun 2000, but I would instead advise a more descriptive name, such as Advance Tech By Thousands. The overlap with Annual Title should also be clarified more. Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
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- I see what you mean, so, this would just have huge overlap with Title by Number.
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Perhaps something like Name X000 or Suffix X000 could work?
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Fair point, Title 2000 is pretty restrictive.
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Noun 2000? It's a redirect.
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I prefer Noun 2000 (though Name 2000 would also work), especially since it's already a redirect. I don't think this should be restricted to titles, since the use of "2000" (or even other multiples of 1,000, such as the Poltergust 3000 in Luigi's Mansion) in names isn't restricted to work titles.
Edit: Is there a reason the names Noun 2000 and Name 2000 (as opposed to any name that doesn't already exist as a redirect) can't apply to other multiples of 1,000? Tropes Are Flexible.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Feb 23rd 2020 at 1:00:49 PM
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.
- Well, for titles, it's sometimes also about the year 2000...
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I'm aware of that. After all, in 1999, people were hyped about 2000 when they weren't afraid that everything that uses electricity would stop working on January 1.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Feb 24th 2020 at 4:45:16 AM
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I wonder if all that cultural stuff makes 2000 a substantial Sub-Trope to the X000 idea.
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Perhaps, but since that naming convention's heyday was two decades ago, it might count as a Discredited Trope or Dead Horse Trope.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Feb 24th 2020 at 6:17:00 AM
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The description and most of the examples appear to emphasize that this trope is about technology/power. The following examples ado not fit that, so would we consider that misuse or is the definition broader?
- Fantasia 2000: Justified somewhat as it was released in the year 2000. At 12:00 midnight on the first day of the year, no less.
- Pokémon 2000: First released in 1999, released overseas (in the US) in the year 2000.
- One April Two Thousand: This 1952 film is an Austrian satire in which the Allied occupation of Austria continues until 2000.
- The sequel to the first Blues Brothers movie was Blues Brothers 2000. Released in 1998.
- Dracula 2000:
- The title alone got it green-lit by Miramax. When Harvey Weinstein had the meeting to set the film in motion, he was asked if the script was any good. He said it was awful, but "it's called Dracula 2000!"
- Known as Dracula 2001 in the UK, because it wasn't released there until then.
- Nickelodeon's Double Dare: A short-lived remake of the classic game show titled Double Dare 2000 aired throughout the appropriate year.
- ''That Peter Kay Thing: In-Universe, Marc Park — an arrogant pop star — releases a Christmas album called, "Christmas 2000", swearing that he's not doing it to cash in on the millennium craze. The interviewer points out that it's actually Christmas 1999.
- Wrestle Mania 2000 actually did take place in 2000, but it was a significant departure from the usual naming scheme; if it had been named like previous and future events, it would have been Wrestle Mania XVI.
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I mean, as a title trope, the content speaks for itself.
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I think those still kinda fit, as the 2000 emphasizes that the the work is the shiny, new, updated version of an older property.
They bring to mind "Year 2000 is soon. It's the fuuuuture" so they still fit.
Edited by Tabs on Feb 24th 2020 at 4:05:38 AM
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The thing is, we have Annual Title.
Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
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Then they fit Name X000/Trope 2000 and Annual Title.
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- Since I'm making Title by Year TLP... I'm wondering if there's a valuable split of Annual Title between a series that makes new versions every year, like sports games...
vs. just a one-shot that's titled for its release year.
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Hm, I guess one's a way to count to distinguish each year's installment, and in the other, the year isn't really necessary. But I do not think that warrants a split.
Yes, that's where they overlap. It can only really happen with 2000, though.
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TRS has voted to rename this trope [link
]. Before we vote on names, let's refine exactly what this trope is trying to accomplish.
This thread
noted a lot of misuse and Zero Context Examples on this page, with many examples just being the name of a work or something in it. The name also uses "Trope" as a placeholder, which is now depreciated: a good first step would be renaming it to something like Title 2000 (which is already a redirect, as I just realized by typing this).
Edited by rjd1922 on Oct 5th 2019 at 7:38:34 AM
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