Rule Of Cautious Editing Judgment - Violations, misuse, and other issues

That was one of the main reasons but the other factors also contributed to it being cut. Since Stonetoss refuses to admit that he or his comic are Alt-Right troping it would be a minefield even if it was a tropable work. Mister Metokur is in the PRLC for similar reasons.

Edited by TheLivingDrawing on Oct 21st 2021 at 8:33:17 AM

Stonetoss absolutely DOES contain tropes, and works with even less of a narrative have pages, so that's not the sole reason for deleting it.

I guess but the comic has both no plot and no substance beyond the author trashing whatever minority or political opinion pisses him off that week. It’s less of a work of fiction and more of a political soapbox so it’s no more worthy of a page than BreadPanes (his left wing, significantly less dumb counterpart).

Edited by TheLivingDrawing on Oct 21st 2021 at 8:52:42 AM

Found on Artistic License – Chemistry, under Other.

• Holocaust deniers sometimes claim the the concentration camps couldn't have been extermination centers, as Zyklon B is just a pesticide. This shows a total ignorance of chemistry and biology, as almost any poisonous substance will kill a human if they take in enough, it just takes a lot less of it to kill an insect than a human (if you doubt this try inhailing an entire can of Raid and see what happens.) Even if you are just being sarcastic, please do not write examples telling the reader to kill or harm themselves.

Yikes, burn it.

Get the chainsaw. It’s misuse anyways as it’s less of a creative liberty and more not knowing anything about Toxicology.

Edited by TheLivingDrawing on Oct 22nd 2021 at 11:43:10 AM

Doesn't Artistic License relate to, you know, art? Not some random schmuck's uneducated (or willfully ignorant) opinion?

Edited by mightymewtron on Oct 22nd 2021 at 1:22:54 PM

No, but thanks for remind folks again why that trope name pattern was such a bad idea.

Maybe all those tropes needs repair.

I agree. They’re probably meant to be “Creator takes liberties with certain subjects since they wouldn’t work as well if portrayed completely accurately” not “Person gets something wrong.”

To be fair, it's one of those things where intent is near impossible to gather. We've been discussing this exact issue at the Critical Research Failure TRS. That's why I prefer to think of it as "mistakes that push the story forward in a way being accurate wouldn't have", rather than "creator intentionally makes a factual error".

No need to fret, just kill all non-media examples. Simple as pie.

I mean, most of them used to be "You Fail [Subject] Forever" pages before being mass-renamed, didn't they? So that certainly wasn't the original intent. It wouldn't surprise me if a lot of these more dumb, nitpicky examples are leftovers from back then.

I’m pretty sure this entry on YMMV Top of the Pops is misuse on top of having calling someone a Real Life example of a NRLEP trope.

Found the following on CoolOldGuy.Real Life:

• Jimmy Savile used to be seen as one. During his later years of life, he donated millions of dollars worth of money to charity, did volunteer work at hospitals, and created a reality show dedicated to using his wealth and connections to make the wishes of people come true. This image was forever shattered when, one year after his death, hundreds of accusations of sexual misconduct came out, many of them credible. Now he is remembered as a subversion of this.

I dunno, even if it is admitting to the fact that Jim was a nonce, I do not feel comfortable calling a child predator "cool" under any circumstances.

Edited by SkyCat32 on Oct 26th 2021 at 8:31:08 AM

Cut both. Even I agree his crimes would make it hard to call someone like him cool, even if it that's how people would perceive him before death, he would probably fit other tropes.

I know. Just said that if they did.

Edited by Piterpicher on Oct 26th 2021 at 3:02:27 PM

As long as we're still talking about this, a similar statement was found under Jackass Genie (already deleted it):

I don’t think there are any tropes on this wiki he fits into that allow for real life examples.

Honestly, Cool Old Guy strikes me as one of those tropes that doesn't really need RL examples: countless people count, and the ones that don't are probably better off not mentioned (even if not usually to that extreme).

Ehh I think we can keep it. It seems fairly harmless.

Edited by TheLivingDrawing on Oct 26th 2021 at 9:22:31 AM

Nr: It definitely needs cleanup if it is kept, but if you have concerns, copy the examples which concern you and bring them to Real Life section maintenance.

Top of the Pops can be valid Harsher in Hindsight if not "Funny Aneurysm" Moment. The host of a kids' show turning out to be a pedophile definitely makes the whole show harsher. I'm sure others can pick out more specific moments if necessary.

But yeah, obviously cut the NRLEP items. I'm honestly mixed on the Cool Old Guy one cuz that trope was his public persona, if I'm correct, but it obviously doesn't hold up anymore. Do we trope the public persona of the celebrity or the reality?

Edited by mightymewtron on Oct 26th 2021 at 10:27:28 AM

We can specify that it was his persona and then point out the reality.

I did add a note to Depraved Kids' Show Host next to the bit about the trope generally not being Truth in Television stating that they do still exist, with Jimmy Savile being probably the most well known example. I felt that it was fine to add since it expanded on a point already made on the page.

The history for DethroningMoment.Cinema Sins has a very personal, ROCEJ-violating entry that's also been repeatedly edited by the same user to change the username at the top of the entry for no apparent reason, as the user editing the entry doesn't have the same username as the ones it's changed to.