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Per Ask The Tropers, this thread will be used to reduce the number of old, poorly written drafts on the Trope Launch Pad. We don't want to discuss on the drafts themselves because that will bump them and mix them with active proposals.

Sandbox for the project: Trope Launch Pad Discard Project
Sandbox for discarded drafts but viable ideas: Trope Idea Salvage Yard

The first sandbox page above contains drafts proposed in the thread that are still pending and drafts that we've decided to leave alone, either with no action or a bump.
The second sandbox page is for awful drafts but viable ideas. According to moderators, badly written but interesting/tropeworthy drafts should remain on the TLP. Rather than allow low-effort drafts to clog TLP, though, the salvage yard was opened to keep just the ideas behind them, in one place.

On this thread, we will mention which drafts we think are unworkable, add enough bombs, and discard (nuke) them. Discarding requires at least 5 bombs. Among the features of "unworkable" drafts:

  • There have been no edits for a very long time, or at all
  • The draft is low-effort, containing atrocious spelling and grammar and/or little to no examples, e.g. NEVER saw THAT coming (!), Nut-Chuks
  • The draft was seemingly created so the sponsor could complain
  • The topic is People Sit on Chairs, Too Rare to Trope, a search query created by mistake, etc. and therefore not tropeworthy
  • The topic is already sufficiently covered by one or more tropes or is a duplicate of a better-written TLP draft
  • The draft is problematic in other ways, such being closely tied to a page that has been historically problematic, e.g. Fetish Fuel, Complete Monster
  • There's no discussion currently occurring in the comments to improve the proposal

If we decide to discard a draft after discussion via this thread, whoever does so must provide the discard reason in the comment section of the draft, for transparency's sake. Those looking at the discards section won't think it was nuked for no reason.

Also, check out the sister project, Trope Adoption Drive, where good drafts put Up for Grabs or abandoned can be grabbed, given a bit more improvement, and launched.

Edited by Tabs on Mar 24th 2022 at 12:02:43 PM

Tabs Since: Jan, 2001
#101: Mar 8th 2019 at 11:59:29 AM

Agreed and bombed all.

The Turnaround, along with being minimal-effort, uses Example as Thesis rather than explaining what the trope is. There's a comment below providing an example that isn't (or claims not to be) Hourglass Plot, but because the draft description explains little, I can't tell if it's valid.

Hollywood Texting may have potential as a Discredited Trope due to advances in technology making it obsolete, but the trope is also covered by The Law of Conservation of Detail (because who wants to read a typo-laden text or watch a character correct typos) and is low-effort with lots of complaining and with no further edits than the initial draft.

Edited by Tabs on Mar 8th 2019 at 12:05:00 PM

mahidevrans Theon is home. Since: Mar, 2018
Theon is home.
#102: Mar 8th 2019 at 12:13:53 PM

Added my bombs to all new suggestions. Will continue combing through later today.

DracMonster Since: Jan, 2001
#103: Mar 8th 2019 at 12:29:13 PM

Here are some very old ones I've hesitated to bomb because I think they might have potential. Anyone wanna feed and care for them? If not, I guess let's clear them out, too.

EDIT: I have an idea. I'll bump them with an "Up for grabs" notifier and track whether anyone takes them over. If not, we'll bomb and nuke.

Edited by DracMonster on Mar 8th 2019 at 3:38:37 PM

WarJay77 Bonnie's Artistic Cousin from The Void (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
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#104: Mar 8th 2019 at 12:45:56 PM

^ Good idea.

Tossed several tropes. I'll dig up some of my own in a minute.

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WarJay77 Bonnie's Artistic Cousin from The Void (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
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#105: Mar 8th 2019 at 1:05:46 PM

Tropes to discard:

A trope that could use a sponsor:

  • Fog of Apocalypse: Description and title need work, but I think there's an actual trope here.

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XFllo There is no Planet B from Planet A Since: Aug, 2012
There is no Planet B
#106: Mar 8th 2019 at 1:06:52 PM

[up][up] I would actually not bomb those and I wouldn't force the Up for Grabs so much. I thought this thread was for absolutely hopeless drafts.

However, considering... the chances that anyone will grab them are pretty slim either way.

DracMonster Since: Jan, 2001
#107: Mar 8th 2019 at 1:10:39 PM

[up]Well, what's "hopeless"? If nobody wants to take it over and it sits there forever, I'd say it hopeless.

Bumping makes it more likely that it may be seen by someone who wants it — more people peruse TLP than here. As long as we're assiduous about dumping them if nobody bites, they shouldn't disrupt TLP too much.

Edited by DracMonster on Mar 8th 2019 at 4:11:31 AM

WarJay77 Bonnie's Artistic Cousin from The Void (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Bonnie's Artistic Cousin
#108: Mar 8th 2019 at 1:13:05 PM

[up] Yeah, and it's actually better to bump drafts that have potential (with an actual reason for doing so, which is provided by Drac each time) than to just let them sit in purgatory. We'll see what the others at the TLP think of them before acting.

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Miss_Desperado https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YD2i1FzUYA from somewhere getting rained on by Puget Sound Since: Sep, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#109: Mar 8th 2019 at 1:29:23 PM

My two cents are to not bomb or discard the old drafts with potential. I'd rather have this thread be for cleaning out obvious trash drafts only, and (if there isn't a thread for this already) start a new long-term/perpetual thread for figuring out what to do with the cobwebbed drafts.


Bombed and nuked Slow Moving Menace for Yes, We DO Have This One

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Tabs Since: Jan, 2001
#110: Mar 8th 2019 at 1:31:02 PM

Body Image Panic is covered by Embarrassment Plot. Para 5: "Maybe they're embarrassed about some aspect of their body such as"... So it can be bombed.

Permanent Lipstick's description doesn't even suggest Tertiary Sexual Characteristics. Maybe the sponsor meant it, but the effort given is minimal, so I will bomb it.

One of my concerns for leaving poorly written drafts because they have potential is that later, someone with the same idea might unknowingly create a duplicate with better writing, which is how we came to have duplicates "Five Things" Fic and Anti-Rage Quitting (both tropes are from younger drafts). But that's a maybe, and I do leave them alone if they're unique, clear(ish), and have a few examples listed.

Edited by Tabs on Mar 8th 2019 at 1:48:46 AM

WarJay77 Bonnie's Artistic Cousin from The Void (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
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#111: Mar 8th 2019 at 1:43:13 PM

[up] You referring to Permanent Lipstick with the second one?

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Tabs Since: Jan, 2001
#112: Mar 8th 2019 at 1:46:17 PM

Oh yes, my bad. Edited post.

DracMonster Since: Jan, 2001
#113: Mar 8th 2019 at 2:13:55 PM

Ok, let's see what happens with the six I bumped and go from there.

Edited by DracMonster on Mar 8th 2019 at 5:14:37 AM

Miss_Desperado https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YD2i1FzUYA from somewhere getting rained on by Puget Sound Since: Sep, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#114: Mar 8th 2019 at 3:20:49 PM

[up] Cool, fair enough, those can be our test batch.


Bombed and nuked Obvious Fake Death.

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DracMonster Since: Jan, 2001
#115: Mar 8th 2019 at 3:27:02 PM

Edited by DracMonster on Mar 8th 2019 at 6:30:18 AM

Tabs Since: Jan, 2001
#116: Mar 8th 2019 at 4:57:18 PM

Subtext Derailment: Between Comically Missing the Point and Oblivious to Hints, I think we have this covered.

War Weary Warrior: Covered by Shell-Shocked Veteran and Reluctant Warrior and possibly I Will Fight No More Forever.

god vs. god: Takes One to Kill One. Some "god" examples can be found on that page, but not enough to split into a subtrope. (Also, "note: this needs a custom title to make both lowercase" misses the point of title case.)

Frustration Glass Door Slam: Covered by the broader and better written (and ready-to-launch) draft, Door Slam Of Rage. (Hey! You're on there, Miss_Desperado!)

Pinata Party KO: Too rare to trope. The title and laconic suggest Finishing Move, and this is adequately covered by Humiliation Conga.

Video Game Mime Artist: The "stereotypical 'laser' sounds" part is covered by Pac Man Fever, and the "playing videogames VERY intensely" bit sounds like Milking the Giant Cow or just bad acting applied to video games.

Kiss The Chef: Fun T-Shirt except it's an apron. The wearer being a man is covered by Real Men Cook.

Delightfully Disappointed: I Do Not Like Green Eggs and Ham.

Adaption Separation: Due to how licensors work, this looks like chairs to me. An "adaption" being different from another is chairs if not extremely broad.

RandomSpectatorFatality: We have Spectator Casualty.

Edited by Tabs on Mar 9th 2019 at 1:21:40 AM

WarJay77 Bonnie's Artistic Cousin from The Void (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Bonnie's Artistic Cousin
#117: Mar 8th 2019 at 5:03:21 PM

Tossed my bombs.

I'm noticing a trend with old drafts just having...awful standards. Maybe it's just because we're digging through the leftover trash, but even the "good" drafts have poorly written descriptions, formatting issues, bad titles, zero-context examples... and judging by how I've never seen an old draft with people pointing out these sorts of errors, I must say I'm glad we don't live in the 2011 version of this site anymore.

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Tabs Since: Jan, 2001
#118: Mar 8th 2019 at 5:08:44 PM

Laxer standards maybe. Could be sample size bias because I'm focusing on older drafts. Or newer drafts have higher odds of Arivne hopping in and improving the formatting.

Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#119: Mar 8th 2019 at 5:11:15 PM

Finger Extinguisher...

Well, using your fingers to extinguish a flame is a uncommon action, and usually isn't done casually? Maybe it's usually done as something cool? *shrugs*

Edited by Malady on Mar 8th 2019 at 5:11:44 AM

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WarJay77 Bonnie's Artistic Cousin from The Void (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
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#120: Mar 8th 2019 at 5:12:03 PM

Eh, I've been on the TLP actively for about a year now and as soon as bad drafts like these are produced they pretty much get nuked out of orbit just for being badly written. It's definitely because our standards have gotten higher. Nobody tolerates bad drafts anymore, but they apparently did back then.

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WarJay77 Bonnie's Artistic Cousin from The Void (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Bonnie's Artistic Cousin
#121: Mar 8th 2019 at 5:22:32 PM

Anyway:

Smug Eyes Shut: So... smug people close their eyes? I guess? I don't know. Doesn't seem a trope.

Real men are meaty: Eugh, this one is not only poorly written and seems based on one person's subjective preference, but as pointed out, it's not a trope.

Lemony Background Singers: Greek Chorus, but more.

Human girl wins: Just Muggle and Magical Love Triangle, but with the requirement that the muggle wins. Same but more.

Tropes By Country: Attempted index with only two examples.

Red and White Jersey: As is, this is PSOC, and also a badly written stub draft anyway.

Only a diamond can cut a diamond: I think this is covered by Takes One to Kill One.

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DracMonster Since: Jan, 2001
#122: Mar 8th 2019 at 5:36:51 PM

The rules and standards were indeed much laxer across the site. People were allowed to create joke pages for forum games, and ZCEs were just fine, and you could use indecipherable names for tropes based on your pet series, among other things.

These were the wild and lawless days, when The Catapult Turtle Flying Castle Gambit roamed free upon the plains...

Edited by DracMonster on Mar 8th 2019 at 8:40:34 AM

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#123: Mar 8th 2019 at 5:50:06 PM

I actually know the guy who proposed Pinata Party KO. I sent him a message on Steam alerting him to this.

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Tabs Since: Jan, 2001
#124: Mar 8th 2019 at 7:14:09 PM

[up][up]Still preferable to the days of So Yeah and I Am Not Making This Up.

I don't think Finger Extinguisher is trope-able as described. I suspect there's meaning to it but I have no clue what it is. Maybe the character is tough or something? Eh.

Smug Eyes Shut is all over the place and low-effort. Bombed.

Real men are meaty: Eeuugh. Bombed. Also, that's the worst misspelling of "examples" I've ever seen.

Lemony Background Singers is Greek Chorus. Bombed.

Human girl wins is covered by Muggle and Magical Love Triangle. Bombed.

Tropes By Country will be near-impossible to handle even if people do attempt to flesh it out. Not worth the work. Bombed.

Red and White Jersey is PSOC and low-effort. Red Is Heroic exists. Bombed.

Only a diamond can cut a diamond is covered by Takes One to Kill One. And maybe Start X to Stop X. Hard to tell when the sponsor never came back to flesh it out. Bombed.

Edited by Tabs on Mar 8th 2019 at 7:14:28 AM

Brainulator9 Short-Term Projects herald from US Since: Aug, 2018 Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
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#125: Mar 8th 2019 at 8:41:30 PM

This Troper and Troper Tales and Fetish Fuel... oh my.

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