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A thread discussing similar tropes. If thread participants agree that two (or more) tropes really don't seem distinct enough to be separate, one can start a thread in the Trope Repair Shop for further discussion.

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    Original OP 

I've decided to start a new cleanup thread dealing with trope similarities. This thread is for discussing tropes that appear to be a duplicate of another trope, and if it's agreed upon that the two tropes talked about are similar enough, one should start a thread about it in the Trope Repair Shop.

I'll start with my issue...


Asian Hooker Stereotype and Mighty Whitey and Mellow Yellow are pretty much the same trope—they both involve a white man and an Asian woman.

Edited by Tabs on Nov 1st 2022 at 10:57:37 AM

eroock Since: Sep, 2012
#501: Mar 24th 2020 at 3:12:50 PM

What's the difference between Neverending Terror and Inescapable Horror?

Edited by eroock on Mar 24th 2020 at 3:13:47 AM

4tell0life4 Since: Mar, 2018 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
#502: Mar 24th 2020 at 4:18:00 PM

Neverending Terror focuses more on the person who feels it. Inescapable Horror focuses on the horror itself.

That which is inescapable isn't necessarily neverending.

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Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#504: Mar 25th 2020 at 2:20:22 PM

[up]:

  • Close-Enough Timeline means that the characters settle on a timeline.
  • Rubber-Band History is about the mechanics of historical alteration, and how it seem effects aren't making the large impacts they expected, due to strange coincidences that work to reduce the effects of changes on the timeline?

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#505: Apr 1st 2020 at 6:50:11 AM

What's the difference of Fatal Forced March and Death March?

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Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#506: Apr 1st 2020 at 6:54:15 AM

^ - "Are you a captive / being forced?"

Edited by Malady on Apr 1st 2020 at 6:54:30 AM

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eroock Since: Sep, 2012
#507: Apr 1st 2020 at 6:56:10 AM

It says "Death March is the involuntary penal variation of Fatal Forced March". I think the "forced" part in Fatal Forced March has to be understood as forced onto the character by circumstances and not by other humans. Death March is for prisoners.

Edited by eroock on Apr 1st 2020 at 4:30:54 AM

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#508: Apr 1st 2020 at 1:38:38 PM

[up] the names don't make them clear, though.

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#509: Apr 1st 2020 at 7:53:47 PM

Well, mr. ~Another Epic Fail? Should I bring the 2 tropes to TLP Crash Rescue?

Edited by 4tell0life4 on Apr 1st 2020 at 7:55:09 AM

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Merseyuser1 Since: Sep, 2011
#510: Apr 2nd 2020 at 10:04:10 AM

Before I add anything to Series.Better Call Saul, what's the difference between these three tropes:

I can't decide what to classify it as, but don't want to make a mistake on the article page itself.

Edited by Merseyuser1 on Apr 2nd 2020 at 6:07:48 PM

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#511: Apr 2nd 2020 at 12:20:39 PM

A Period Piece is set in a particular time in the past.

20 Minutes into the Past is a subtrope of Period Piece in which it takes place in the very recent past at the time of the work's production.

Present-Day Past is when a work that takes place in the past uses pop culture from the present.

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Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#513: Apr 2nd 2020 at 5:09:09 PM

The TRS for Wall Crawl / Wall Run just got Morgued, and was suggested I bring things here. Ok.

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Wall Crawl and Wall Run are separate tropes... From the names, it sounds like that they're just for crawling and running on walls, respectively...

But the former says:

The ability to scale vertical surfaces. There are many ways it can be done.

[...]

However it's done, characters with this ability can scale cliffs as easily as crossing the road.


Wall Run describes itself as:

But in this trope, they just run up it! They either have the superhuman strength or speed or ability to simply run up a smooth, flat, vertical surface at high speeds, even if logically they shouldn't be able to.

... Sounds totally encompassed by Wall Crawl's description?


Also, Wall Crawl's first example of the trope is wall-walking, not crawling at all.

Is / should there be a difference between Wall Crawl and Wall Run? Or should they be merged?

The latter might be Le Parkour only?


I had some thoughts that the Crawl / Run split isn't a good one, instead wanting a Temporary Dash / Permanent Hang split...

Other thoughts were that Run is Rule of Cool, and Crawl, I guess is the General?


My main issue was with the descriptions, so maybe if that were tightened, it'd be fine?

Edited by Malady on Apr 2nd 2020 at 5:10:34 AM

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eroock Since: Sep, 2012
#514: Apr 2nd 2020 at 5:32:04 PM

My 2ct:

  • Wall Run: A character is so speedy that they can use that momentum to run up a wall
  • Wall Crawl: A character uses some kind of stickiness technique to scale a wall

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#515: Apr 2nd 2020 at 10:21:45 PM

^Similar, for me Wall Run is to show how fast your speedster is, while Wall Crawl is to show animalistic abilities (eg. stickiness or strength).

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#516: Apr 3rd 2020 at 8:56:53 AM

How is Cuteness Proximity different from Cuteness Overload? If I am understanding it correctly, Cuteness Proximity is about someone getting Cuteness Overload when in close proximity to something cute... which seems like a really weak distinction, IMO.

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#517: Apr 3rd 2020 at 1:54:12 PM

[up] Cuteness Overload is the reaction itself, while Cuteness Proximity is a character pattern about that kind of reaction. The latter has to happen repeatedly.

At least that's what I think? It's still kind of a weak distinction.

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#518: Apr 3rd 2020 at 9:13:32 PM

I mean, I know that Playing With pages aren't always the most reliable summary of the trope, but it is a bad sign when it defines Cuteness Proximity as: "A character undergoes Cuteness Overload when close to a Ridiculously Cute Critter."—which kinda makes it The Same, but More Specific, but without any added specificity?

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#519: Apr 7th 2020 at 8:25:12 PM

How is Mocking the Mourner any different from Relative Button or Would You Like to Hear How They Died?

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eroock Since: Sep, 2012
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#521: Apr 8th 2020 at 10:03:54 AM

[up][up] Mocking the Mourner isn't about the murderer mocking the victim like those other tropes are. It's just someone being an asshole to someone in grief.

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#522: Apr 8th 2020 at 8:46:14 PM

Are Room 101 and Maximum Fun Chamber too similar? Although the former is played for drama and the latter for laughs, their base concepts are the same: a method of torture, usually associated with a location, so horrible that little is known and said about it.

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WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition (Troper Knight)
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#524: Apr 9th 2020 at 1:50:37 PM

I mean, Abusive Parents would be a subtrope, wouldn't it? Domestic Abuse is more reserved for things like beating spouses, not beating children, anyway.

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Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#525: Apr 9th 2020 at 2:04:05 PM

^ - I'd put that in the description, if it isn't already.

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