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Edited by GastonRabbit on Apr 24th 2024 at 1:49:19 PM
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
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I don't know what you mean by stepping on my toes; I never wanted Dumb Dodo Bird's dewicking project to be a one-man effort, and I'm glad that someone else picked up where I left off. I'm actually surprised it took as long as it did for someone other than me to help out, considering the fact that TRS activity has increased since I first became active on TRS in 2017.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Jul 28th 2021 at 1:02:51 PM
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.
I meant something more along the lines of "I don't want to cutlist these two pages in case you were still using them for something," or "I don't necessarily know what all you have and haven't already done, so I won't declare this done just yet."
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
Ah, OK. I wasn't sure.
Now a lurker. Thanks for everything. | he/him
Heads up everyone, another slot opened up!
Sorry to unload a lot of notifiers at once but ~Midna, you got another chance!
Edited by themayorofsimpleton on Jul 28th 2021 at 3:51:04 PM
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the Retromancer
I'd like a clarification on what High Concept is about, because I don't get it.
1. There's just one plotline with no deviations or twists, it's more about "how it happened".
2. The work title is self-explanatory or summarized by Tagline or Word of God.
3. A character puts Lampshade Hanging on their journey.
4. It's basically Laconic Wiki moved to Examples section.
Because just looking at High Concept page's examples make it look like it's #4. I can make a Wick Check sandbox for Misuse, but can't tell what's the intended use from the description.
Edited by Amonimus on Jul 28th 2021 at 12:13:34 PM
TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
Lots of coffee
High concept is essentially when the premise of the work is easy to pitch without it blending into other shows of its genre. It's not the characters or worldbuilding or anything you're selling, it's the very premise itself. But I don't know if any of those "X Meets Y" examples truly count.
the Retromancer
The problem is that "easy to pitch" is subjective and can be done to literally every work if one tried, we already have an entire sub-wiki for fan-sumbitted summaries. I'd like it to be restricted to quotations only to avoid these ZCE (X Meets Y, Recycled In Space), but first I want to know what "the premise is easy to summarize" even means.
Edited by Amonimus on Jul 28th 2021 at 1:08:12 PM
TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
From mew's explanation, High Concept sounds more like a Trivia. For it to objectively exist, a creator had to pitch it. Otherwise, it's viewers writing pared-down laconics.
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
Er... wouldn't this discussion regarding High Concept's definition be better suited to Trope Talk?
Edited by GastonRabbit on Jul 28th 2021 at 5:17:47 AM
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.
the Retromancer
Well this sub-forum is linked from The Trope Repair Shop on Trope Talk, so...
If you mean this guide, I'd like to, but double-checking if I should open a thread for Misused.
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
How do you know what counts as misuse if you don't know what counts as proper usage? That's why I suggested Trope Talk. I personally don't want a High Concept thread to end up like the recent ones for Were Still Relevant Dammit and Hate Sink, and while I can't speak for anyone else, I wouldn't be surprised if others feel the same about threads that end up like those two.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Jul 28th 2021 at 5:50:19 AM
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.
the Retromancer
Which one, Ask The Tropers? I shall gladly move there, I just saw "All-Purpose discussion" more fitting since I had an "all-purpose question".
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
No, not Ask The Tropers. I suggested moving it to Trope Talk.
Edit: Link to that forum.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Jul 28th 2021 at 5:51:12 AM
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.
the Retromancer
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
Midna made a Gorn thread, but there's no wick check. Is one needed, since there was already discussion in this thread? Previous threads like the one for Snark Bait were approved based on preexisting discussion.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Jul 28th 2021 at 7:53:43 AM
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.
Professional Wick Checker
Even if we already agreed on what to do with Gorn, there needs to be ample proof that people are using this trope to gush about gore.
How sweet it is
Re: Gorn
A wick check may help, yes.
Edit: Opened with a clock. Prepare to check 61 wicks (square root of the total wick count).
Edited by Berrenta on Jul 29th 2021 at 7:50:28 AM
she/her | TRS needs your help! | Contributor of Trope Report
I'll get the proceedings started: Gorn Wick Check
I've already got a list of randomized links and I've started pulling examples, really the main thing I might need a second opinion on is sorting them.
Now a lurker. Thanks for everything. | he/him
I’m on mobile right now so I can’t help now, but I will try to assist later.
Now a lurker. Thanks for everything. | he/him
Alright, I'm back at home. I'll see what I can do.
TRS Queue | Works That Require Cleanup of Complaining | Troper Wall
How sweet it is
Theme Tune Cameo's thread is cleared away, so now's a good time to claim the open slot.
Edited by Berrenta on Jul 29th 2021 at 8:25:39 AM
she/her | TRS needs your help! | Contributor of Trope Report
Professional Wick Checker
Should we bring Hate Sink back to the TRS? We came up with several solutions in the hate sink discussion thread and some were met with support. I'd love to make a thread about it myself, but I'm busy for the time being.
How sweet it is
Good timing. We just opened up a slot.
she/her | TRS needs your help! | Contributor of Trope Report
Discarded and Feeling Blue
Yeah, we should.
Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
Okay, now's your chance, ~Midna. We got a slot freed up.
she/her | TRS needs your help! | Contributor of Trope Report