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Edited by GastonRabbit on Apr 24th 2024 at 1:49:19 PM
People Sit on Chairs says they are used to "convey information" / "meaning".
Edited by Malady on Jun 9th 2021 at 5:29:06 AM
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Angry babby
Fanservice Tropes convey the information that the character should be, by the standards of the story, seen as attractive.
I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
I do think PSOC might need an update because not every single trope conveys some sort of meaning. Some of them are just plot points, character archetypes, or things that add to the tone (horror, comedy, fanservice, mystery, etc). A trope can't be completely void of any purpose. Someone sitting on a chair has no meaning, no impact on the story or character, and doesn't add anything to the way the story is presented or percieved.
So while no, not every trope literally needs to have some hidden meaning signified to the audience like PSOC claims, they do have to have a pattern of usage that, in some way, impacts the way the story is told.
Current Project: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
I've no objections to making it clearer, since it's my main resource for "what's a trope". More accuracy is better!
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Posted about this a while back in the quotes thread but never got a response. The TRS thread for Those Two Guys closed without changing the quote, but the page quote and every quote on the quotes page all reflect the two most common forms of misuse, The Dividual or "a pair of Living Prop characters". Permission to remove?
Go ahead.
Done, and also rewrote the playing with page.
"It's just a show; I should really just relax"
I seem to have found a glitched page using the ancient Pmwiki namespace.
Pmwiki.Rolf Kaukas Once Upon A Time
It probably should be sent to the cut list quickly, but darn. I feel like an archeologist finding a long lost artifact.
"I like girls, but now, it's about justice."
Very Spooky
![[up]](https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/smiles/arrow_up.png "[up]"){kind=icon}
It was actually created only a week ago. Not sure why it was created, but I guess someone screwed up the namespace.
Well, that's even weirder, then. We haven't used Pmwiki in years. In any case there's another page for the film in the correct Western Animation namespace, so we won't need to transplant anything when we give it the chop.
"I like girls, but now, it's about justice."
I think it's safe to send to the cutlist without TRS since a proper work page eists in the proper workplace: WesternAnimation.Rolf Kaukas Once Upon A Time.
Global Warming was unilaterally moved to its redirect Climate Change without any sort of discussion by AHI-3000, who has since been suspended. That said, all the wicks have been migrated. Does this need a TRS to solidify the move?
What do you mean by solidify?
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
Making the move official instead of having it remain a unilateral change.
VideoGame.Raving Rabbids Travel In Time is a trope-less page that has been "under construction" for over a year. I'll probably cutlist it, unless someone has played the game and can salvage it.
Edited by WackyPancake on Jun 13th 2021 at 11:45:37 AM
"I like girls, but now, it's about justice."
Veteran Editor IV
Maybe it was an April Fools joke? But yeah, in its shape it should be cut.
Edited by Piterpicher on Jun 13th 2021 at 11:45:01 AM
Currently mostly inactive. An incremental game I tested: https://galaxy.click/play/176 (Gods of Incremental)
Angry babby
That's not really a TRS issue though.
I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
Where should I bring up this sort of stuff, then? I do apologize.
"I like girls, but now, it's about justice."
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
Probably just ATT, tbh.
So the trend of people coming in late to discuss ideas that are no longer possible continues, and...yeah, I really think we should start doing the pinned-post method. It's getting exhausting to have to keep explaining to people that they're too late to pitch solutions if the crowner has already been made and called.
I know some decisions have been reversed in the past when enough people complained, but that's different from coming in just to say "I think we should do this" when the trope's already been cut, renamed, ect.
Edited by WarJay77 on Jun 13th 2021 at 11:08:19 AM
Current Project: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
In case anyone should care, the Mondegreen cleanup is finished. For now, at least.
The Pennyfarthing Effect's cleanup is also done. I'm waiting for consensus on whether I missed anything, but yeah. The crowner also said to fetch a rename before yarding, but there hasn't been any discussion on that. And I'm settling on yarding because nobody piped up about sponsoring it on the TLP, either.
I'd like to apologize for all this.
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
Since Yarding sends it back to the TLP eventually, a new name can just be hashed out there.
Current Project: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
I was wondering if Discredited Trope needs a TRS thread.
The page is essentially "tropes that are obsolete/outdated enough that nobody uses them anymore", but a lot of the entries are for tropes that are still being used. Additionally, many of the entries also describe why the trope wouldn't pan out in real life, regardless of whether or not they're still being used in media, which is already covered by another index.
An earlier attempt at a thread was thrown out immediately for an "insufficient argument", but what exactly constitutes as a "sufficient argument"?
Here's an index check for your consideration.
Angry babby
Yeah, I wish they'd explained a little bit more what "insufficient argument" means in this context.
I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
Tropes do not need to affect the story, actually.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman