Getting Crap Past the Radar cleanup

That actually does look pretty reliable. Yeah, we can use that as a source.

The Guide was originally published in 1993. Nintendo do refer to their "evolving standards", so we can't say for sure those are the same standards that were in presence in 1989, but they're pretty close, and since books take time to put together, and new standards have to go through bureaucratic approval, yeah, I think we can take that as one that slipped by.

You know those commented-out notes about this trope’s misuse? Should they be removed, or just fixed so that they no longer have potholes to "Getting Crap Past The" without the "Radar"?

Remove them.

Was Radar.Splatoon going to get scrubbed? Anyway, in the time since that earlier discussion, someone added a line about a Precision F-Strike in 3 that’s supposedly audible under the heavy filtering. The clip they linked is conveniently dead now, but I imagine what they call “sharp-eared” is more likely “prone to Mondegreens.”

I have thought a little about it, and I reckon that if we just burn the page and move the Jelfonzo example to where it belongs, we suffer no huge losses.

Edited by Delibirda on Oct 4th 2022 at 9:25:42 PM

Yeah, that page has exactly one valid example amidst a whole lot of shoehorning. Burn it down.

On it.

And I am done.

Edited by Delibirda on Oct 5th 2022 at 12:15:24 PM

Speaking of Nintendo, I found this on the main Crap page.

• Vinny's Tomodachi Life streams feature an odd version of this: since his particular brand of comedy is usually blocked by the game's curse filters, he attempts to circumvent them in various ways (misspelling, phonetic pronunciation, etc.) Sometimes it works (i.e. getting the islanders to say "fuck" by spelling it "fuhck"), and sometimes it doesn't ("Honk honk fhuker" ends up pronounced as "Honk honk few-ker"). Not to mention the various dirty allusions that the filters don't catch...

First, Vinny is far from the only person to manipulate the text to speech system to make the characters say swears. Second, of course the filter can't catch every dirty allusion. That's not what it's meant to do.

The more important thing is that getting past a word filter doesn't appear to be a valid use of this trope. I want to put it in the correct trope (if there is one) and clean it up to make it more accurate. Which trope is this?

Video Game Perversity Potential?

Yeah, Video Game Perversity Potential looks like the right trope.

Behold: the Radar subpage of Shrek Forever After.

• The part where Shrek wants Donkey to track down Fiona (after seeing the Wanted posters). Donkey calls her scent "sweet and delicious" to which Shrek replies that it's his wife he's talking about. Turns out he was talking about his Trademark Favorite Food waffles.
• At the end when the witches take off on their brooms, one of them can't get hers to start. It turns out she's pulling on Pinocchio's nose, and he's smiling too.
• Donkey calling Gingy a "cracker."
• "My donkey fell in your waffle hole!"
• Gingy gets a pair of icing chaps that cover his front, but not his back, which he takes a delighted, deliberate look at. In other words, assless chaps.
• After Shrek says "true love's kiss,” this is Donkey's response:
  Donkey: You’re gonna have to take me to dinner first.

Those are all either Accidental Innuendo or Demographically Inappropriate Humor.

Shrek Forever After is rated PG, so that stuff totally flies.

Okay, let’s do the first Shrek movie now.

Shrek

• The film starts with this. After reading a storybook, Shrek rips a page from it and says "What a load of—". The rest of the sentence is cut off by the sound of a toilet flushing.
  • In the Finnish dub he actually finishes (Pun unintended) that sentence.
• Lord Farquaad, the Big Bad. ^note The production staff denies that it was intended to sound like "fuckwad", though given the movie's production history it's an insult either way Especially since he's a caricature of then-Disney CEO Michael Eisner.
  • Try saying "Farquaad" really fast five times. Also try skipping the 'r' each time you say it^note Shrek's Scottish accent makes this more noticeable. Got it yet?
  • One memorable Farquaad moment is when he's watching his bride-to-be in the magic mirror while he's in bed (making the mirror rewind, no less), and he peeks under the blanket at his lap, and gets this pleased "Oh my" sort of expression. If you look closely, you can actually see, ahem, part of the blanket move. The same scene shows a rather familiar-looking bear rug on his bedroom floor. One with a bow that we spotted on Mama Bear earlier in the movie.^note Mama Bear does appear in the "Karaoke Dance Party" bonus feature that takes place right after the movie, though, so this point may be debatable.
  • "So, do you think he's Compensating for Something?" If you think it's a comment about his height, remember Shrek hadn't seen Farquaad yet.
  • Yet again, towards the end when Fiona sees Lord Farquaad's castle, there's this bit of dialogue.
    Donkey: You know Shrek says that the castle is Compensating for Something, and I think it means he has a REALLY small-
    Shrek: Okay, time to go.
  • And according to the DVD commentary, the above Donkey line used to go FURTHER.
• Near the start of the film, Gingy is being tortured by Farquaad and his men by having his legs broken off, one of them being crushed to crumbs, and being dunked upside down in a glass of milk. But it's funny, since he is a cookie.
  • Also, Gingy says, "Eat me!" to Farquaad, but once again, they get away with it because he's a cookie.
• Also when Shrek goes to save Donkey from the dragon.
  Fiona: Where are you going!? The exit's over there!
  Shrek: Well, I have to save my ass.
  • Ironically, this bit does not get past the radar on TV airings (specifically, when Cartoon Network aired the movies in the mid-to-late-2000s), where the "ass" part is replaced with "Donkey".
• A scene ends and the audio starts to fade out when Donkey says "Parfaits may just be the most delicious thing on the whole damn planet."
• When the little dolls are singing the 'welcome to Duloc' song there's this verse: Please keep off of the grass. Shine your shoes, wipe your...[turn around] face.
• During "Monsieur Hood"'s song:
  Hood: I like a little spice on a saucy little maid.
  Backup singers: What he's basically saying is he likes to get-
  Hood: PAID!
• After Donkey is taken away by Dragon, she begins to court him in her treasure chamber/bedroom. While we don't see much, it's pretty heavily implied that she's doing something to his uh, joystick. And judging by how she's using her head...
• When Donkey is being courted by the dragon, in the Norwegian, Finnish and Swedish dubs he says: "That's sexual harassment!"
  • Another addition in the Norwegian dub is Donkey saying "Herregud", which, while the direct meaning is "Oh my god", is more of a cuss word in Norwegian, along the lines of "Damn". In a similar vein, the Swedish dub uses the equivalent of "shit", however, it's a more lighthearted word.
  • In the climax, when Donkey asks: "You want to hold her? Please her?" To Shrek in regards to Fiona, it's a little risqué, but fine since it can be interpreted in numerous ways. In the Swedish dub, however, in the place of "please her" he says "take her". In Swedish, it has no other meaning than "have sex with her" in that context.
• Near the beginning, when Donkey is being sold, the old woman trying to convince the buyers that Donkey can speak holds his mouth and pretends that he is speaking, saying "I can talk! I love to talk! I'm the talkiest damn thing you ever saw!" Admittedly it's very difficult to hear what she's saying.
• The mirror feels the need to tell Farquaad that Snow White isn't "easy" despite living with seven men.
• Fiona attempting to remove the arrow and Shrek rolling over in pain, causing Fiona to land on top of him. Donkey returns and tells them if they wanted to be alone, they should have asked. Shrek assures him it isn't what it looks like and that that particular activity is, in fact, the last thing on his mind right then.
• When Shrek is holding down the tree so Fiona and Donkey can cross, Fiona caresses Shrek's back, prompting a pleased expression from him and following after her.

Edited by MisterToodleoo on Oct 23rd 2022 at 2:26:33 AM

Bump. Someone please check out my previous post.

According to IMDB, Shrek is rated PG. In that case, none of the English-language examples qualify. (I don't know enough about the Swedish language or the relevant rating system to know if that example is valid.)

I can assure you that "herregud" is not a curse word in Norwegian.

It was rated 7 by Medietilsynet. How strict are they about language? Misread the above post.

Edited by VampireBuddha on Oct 27th 2022 at 7:44:14 PM

Shrek in general is full of Demographically Inappropriate Humor and Parental Bonus. One of the reasons why it got so popular was because of its more adult jokes compared to Pixar movies alongside making fun of fairy tales.

I don't think any of these count and should probably be moved to those two tropes.

I submitted the page to the cut list but it still exists. What now?

You have to wait for the cut to go through

I can't find an age rating for Monk, but none of the examples here seem valid (no word on if the censors disallowed them, and they seem like standard fare for a teen/adult show because they're all just implied rather than shown).

Does something that initially aired but was censored for later broadcasts count as Getting Crap Past the Radar? I learned that a scene in Winx Club was completely redrawn when it aired on Nickelodeon for looking too much like an Attempted Rape, but am not sure if it counts as getting crap past or as just a Does This Remind You of Anything? that Nickelodeon was uncomfortable with.

The scene in question, with the Cinelume version and the censored Nickelodeon version right after. The clip doesn't show the full scene in all its creepiness but you can very easily see what's been changed.

Edited by PhiSat on Nov 8th 2022 at 3:28:10 AM

Sometimes. The Red Mist Squidward scene in SpongeBob aired before they realized it violated S&P (and still airs in some other countries like Canada), so it verifiably was GCPTR. The scene you described just sounds like Nick splitting hairs—even 4Kids kept the original.

Edited by PurpleEyedGuma on Nov 8th 2022 at 5:52:24 AM

Radar.Monk can be cut. It's an adult show that aired on basic cable — not super dirty, but it can discuss sex just fine.