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For a list of bad laconics, see Sandbox.Pages Needing Better Laconics.

For generally accepted guidelines for laconics, see Sandbox.Laconic Wiki Template.


Today I found out an interesting fact from troper Ironeye:

Don't ever make the mistake of using the Laconic version as the canonical trope meaning—the laconics are often written by people who don't actually understand the drop. In this case, the laconic only corresponds to one possible cause of Darkness-Induced Audience Apathy.

The Laconic Description for DIAA states as follows:

The thing is, these descriptions are supposed to make it easier to understand what the page is about. If they can't be accurate as well as short and sweet, then there's a problem.

So for starters, what would be a better description for DIAA?

Edited by MacronNotes on Jan 29th 2023 at 6:23:45 AM

TheLivingDrawing Lucas the Dreamer from The Town of Clayton Since: Apr, 2019 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Lucas the Dreamer
#2101: Nov 16th 2022 at 7:33:14 AM

[up][up][up][up] Those are laconics for two separate games. Hyrule Warriors and Hyrule Warriors: Age of Calamity. With Age of Calamity that Laconic is technically a lie since the game an alternate timeline where the Great Calamity is averted and not actually a prequel but I don’t think spoilers are allowed.

Edited by TheLivingDrawing on Nov 16th 2022 at 10:39:37 AM

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Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#2102: Nov 16th 2022 at 7:46:46 AM

Swapped out Agony 2018 and Read Or Die, due to approvals.

Checking out Sandbox.Ayumi-chan... Laconic.Bayonetta 3 seems to be the easiest?

Currently: "Bayonetta in the multiverse of madness."

Suggestion: "Bayonetta vs. bioweaponry trying to reduce the multiverse into a single universe."

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She / Her
#2103: Nov 16th 2022 at 7:49:24 AM

[up][up]I meant for which one I like the most. For the record, I feel both of them are good, though I change that One-Man Army pothole to One Man Armies.

[up][tup]

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the Retromancer
#2104: Nov 17th 2022 at 10:26:59 AM

Laconic.Meta Twist: "A plot twist that's a twist not because of the story, but because of circumstances surrounding the work's genre, author, or role in a series."

That's a bit mouthful and sounds like something about Trivia when the page description doesn't say so. Suggestion:

"Subverting own franchise's/genre's formula to everyone's shock."

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TheLivingDrawing Lucas the Dreamer from The Town of Clayton Since: Apr, 2019 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Lucas the Dreamer
#2105: Nov 17th 2022 at 1:44:39 PM

[up] “A twist on a series’ expected formula or traditions.”

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Shadeblade11 (Troper Journeyman)
#2106: Nov 18th 2022 at 2:52:17 AM

Aren't Creators not supposed to have any subpages? Because Creator.Toshiro Mifune has a laconic subpage, among others. Should they be cut?

TheLivingDrawing Lucas the Dreamer from The Town of Clayton Since: Apr, 2019 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Lucas the Dreamer
#2107: Nov 18th 2022 at 3:06:18 PM

How is this laconic for God Is Good?

The Top God of a setting is portrayed as benevolent.

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Amonimus the Retromancer from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the Retromancer
#2108: Nov 18th 2022 at 3:09:27 PM

I see nothing in the description naming or suggesting Top God, just a God (though it neglects to bring up a case where multiple are present).

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Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#2109: Nov 18th 2022 at 3:57:15 PM

[up][up][up] If it helps, I asked a similar question last year about Creator.Monty Oum's sub-pages. I assumed the Laconic was okay, and no-one told me differently. Someone else in the ATT thread cut the other sub-pages, but left the Laconic.

If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.
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low-poly Shinri
#2110: Nov 19th 2022 at 5:22:17 AM

Re: Hyrule warriors. I changed the laconics to the one Living Drawing suggested.

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Shadeblade11 (Troper Journeyman)
#2111: Nov 19th 2022 at 9:42:35 PM

[up][up]Had a look at recent cuts. Apparently Creator.Danielle Steel used to have laconic but was also cut for the reason "A laconic for a creator". So, apparently, creator laconic subpages can be deleted.

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the Retromancer
#2112: Nov 21st 2022 at 7:19:51 AM

Laconic.Skeleton Knight In Another World today gained a Chained Sinkhole.

Since the argument is that it neglected to mention the skeleton aspect (which the current text potholes instead of mentioning it), am suggesting shuffling some parts around.
An airhead gamer wakes up in a fantasy world as his overleveled skeleton avatar and goes along with the proposal to stop elf slavery.
~AnimeGamer ?

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She / Her
#2114: Nov 21st 2022 at 9:20:47 AM

Does anyone have any suggestions for Gagging on Your Words? Normally I would just make the Laconic, however, I'm unsure how to write this particular one.

TheLivingDrawing Lucas the Dreamer from The Town of Clayton Since: Apr, 2019 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Lucas the Dreamer
#2115: Nov 21st 2022 at 9:40:03 AM

[up] “A character struggles to say something they’re averse to saying.”

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She / Her
#2116: Nov 21st 2022 at 10:02:37 AM

[up]That looks good to me. Would it be ok if I make a Laconic page with it? If so, would it also be alright if I replace "A character" with "Someone"?

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the Retromancer
#2118: Nov 21st 2022 at 5:40:15 PM

For Batman Ninja, just removing In Space pothole (and un-capslocking) would be enough, it's a bit misused and that's effectively the premise.

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She / Her
#2119: Nov 21st 2022 at 7:28:00 PM

[up][up]

Laconic.Babylon Five:

A human crew gets involved with conflicts between other races.
I'm unsure about Laconic.Battle Of The Planets honestly, though here's my suggestion anyway:
An Americanized version of Science Ninja Team Gatchaman.
I guess this for Laconic.Battlestar Galactica 1978:
A group of refugees try heading to Earth to get help to fight Killer Robots.
Maybe this for Laconic.Brimstone Angels:
The adventures of two twin sisters and their foster father while working as bounty hunters.
For Laconic.Because News, I'd just remove the all caps and the Recycled In Space pothole. As for Laconic.Borderlands The Pre Sequel, I'd replace "Recycled In Space (literally)" with "A" and delete "surprisingly".

What do you think of my suggestions?

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low-poly Shinri
#2120: Nov 21st 2022 at 8:33:37 PM

[up] I changed all the laconics with the execption of Battle of the planets cause I don't feel that laconic works.

Edit: changed Because News

Edited by Ayumi-chan on Nov 22nd 2022 at 12:35:40 AM

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She / Her
#2121: Nov 21st 2022 at 9:00:00 PM

Here's a hopefully better version then:

An Americanized Sentai fights terrorists.

TheLivingDrawing Lucas the Dreamer from The Town of Clayton Since: Apr, 2019 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Lucas the Dreamer
#2122: Nov 22nd 2022 at 6:07:55 PM

Is this a better laconic for OMORI?

A Stoic kid and his friends search for their lost friend in a troubled teenager’s imagination world as a dark truth slowly emerges.

Why waste time when you can see the last sunset last?
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She / Her
#2124: Nov 22nd 2022 at 10:57:33 PM

[up][up]It looks great to me[tup]. Also, what do you think what I suggested here?

TheLivingDrawing Lucas the Dreamer from The Town of Clayton Since: Apr, 2019 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Lucas the Dreamer
#2125: Nov 24th 2022 at 9:29:15 AM

[up] This site primarily deals in fiction so I think character is fine.

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