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- Make sure that the example makes sense to both people who don't know the work AND don't know the trope.
- Wrong: The Mentor: Kevin is this to Bob in the first episode.
- Right: The Mentor: Kevin takes Bob under his wing in the first episode and teaches him the ropes of being a were-chinchilla.
- Never just put the trope title and leave it at that.
- Wrong: Badass Adorable
- Right: Badass Adorable: Xavier, the group's cute little mascot, defeats three raging elephants with both hands tied behind his back using only an uncooked spaghetti noodle.
- When is normally far less important than How.
- A character name is not an explanation.
- Wrong: Full Moon Silhouette: Diana
- Right: Full Moon Silhouette: At the end of her transformation sequence into Moon Princess Misty, Diana is shown flying across the full moon riding a rutabaga.
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Edited by Synchronicity on Sep 18th 2023 at 11:42:55 AM
Re: John Reed of Jane Eyre: He's an awful person as a kid and as an adult, but he's not a villain. He dies young, too.
ETA: What I meant by this was cut John Reed as misuse.
Edited by XFllo on Feb 17th 2019 at 8:42:50 PM
How should we change the entry?
As a magical portal changes memories and names and concepts to fit a new world, there's an implication that language would change as well? But that it doesn't is a subversion of that implication, right?
Fanfic.A Certain Magical Friendship:
- Translator Microbes: Subverted, no magical translation of any kind here. Only the characters who know both Japanese (Neighponiese) and English (Equish) can talk to the cast of both series.
Edited by Malady on Feb 17th 2019 at 7:31:25 AM
Disambig Needed: Help with those issues! tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13324299140A37493800&page=24#comment-576From The Legend of Korra:
- Invincible Villain: The Big Bad of each season, to varying degrees. They regularly trounce Korra and her friends, and very rarely does Korra achieve unequivocal victories over any of them. At several points, the villains score clear wins, either in direct physical combat with the Avatar, or outmaneuvering her politically, leaving her with no recourse. The finale of each season often focuses on Korra and her friends dealing with the repercussions of the villains' (sometimes posthumous) successes, rather than celebrating their defeat.
It seems like it's trying to frame a fairly typical aspect of storytelling (the villains are a serious threat and not defeated until the end) as a flaw. The final part is also only true of the third season. Should I cut?
I'd say yes, cut.
(What the hell even is Invincible Villain?)
I made a few tweaks involving gender in The Dick Tracy Show.
Here's the original.
- The Smurfette Principle: Incredibly averted. Except for the brief appearance of a female in some episodes, such as the girl Go-Go Gomez is wooing at the start of his episodes, the show is one big sausage fest.
Here's my first change.
- The Smurfette Principle: Incredibly averted. Except for the brief appearance of a female in some episodes, such as the girl Go-Go Gomez is wooing at the start of his episodes, the show is one big sausage fest.
I deleted that entry and made another.
- Chromosome Casting: Except for the brief appearance of a female in some episodes, such as the girl Go-Go Gomez is wooing at the start of his episodes, the show is one big sausage fest.
Which one do you find the most legit?
Definitely the latter. The Smurfette Principle is about how, in an all-male cast, there will be a single female who gets to do all the girl tropes. If there isn't a regular female character, then the trope simply doesn't apply. There is no "aversion" here.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"I find this example on DarknessInducedAudienceApathy.Live Action TV questionable:
- American Horror Story: Cult couldn't decide if it was a bigger statement on Cult of Personality, or just another dime-a-dozen Anti-Donald Trump Author Tract. Despite some asides about how both sides have their hypocrisies, it later devolves into the latter, with the formerly mousy heroine proclaiming herself a "Nasty Woman" before shooting the Straw Misogynist bad guy on live TV. This might not have been so depressing had the audience not been forced to pick a side based on a very recent election people were already sick of hearing about.
How is this Darkness-Induced Audience Apathy? I get that Trump supporters and people who are sick of hearing about the election were alienated, but that's not the same as DIAA, which is about the world being so dark that the audience doesn't care what happens next.
Yep, complete misuse of the trope, and a RL rant to boot, which makes it doubly inappropriate.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"I thought about the Splatoon series and one thing came to mind: On one side, you have the selfish Inklings who only care about style and sports while the Octolings are destructive and militarized. Because of the these two sides, isn't this case of Gray and Gray Morality?
No, the Inklings are not particularly selfish.
Hello! I was just asking, would this image from the Dragons: Race to the Edge Episode Dire Straits count as a Separated By the Wall Scene, or a Window Love scene? Link Here: http://thetvshows.us/displayimage.php?pid=1553282&fullsize=1. Also, here is a You Tube Video Link to the scene from the episode. Link Here: https://youtu.be/KYSfAq5W1HI?t=45.
Thank You! :)
Apart from poor formatting I am almost certain that this Necromunda example isn't correct (as it was intentional) but it is YMMV so I would like some confirmation before deleting it:
- Hilarious in Hindsight:
- Years later the initial release of Necromunda, the Tau would be introduced to 40K, and the names of the Spyrers' suits all happened to be words in the Tau language that accurately described the suits' abilities. Note that when they were first introduced, the Spyrers' suits were said to use alien technology. Later, Games Workshop just happened to add an alien race to the setting who are technologically advanced and much more open to other races than just about anyone else in the setting.
At least one Tau Codex actually makes the connection between the Spyrers' suits and the Tau explicit, with a note that it has the Inquisition deeply concerned about the flow of xeno-tech that deeply into the Imperium.
However, making all the more confusing is that Spyrer gear is supposed to be ancient. Far older than the 300-or-thereabouts years the Imperium has known about the Tau. What the implication of that are is anybody's guess.
- Years later the initial release of Necromunda, the Tau would be introduced to 40K, and the names of the Spyrers' suits all happened to be words in the Tau language that accurately described the suits' abilities. Note that when they were first introduced, the Spyrers' suits were said to use alien technology. Later, Games Workshop just happened to add an alien race to the setting who are technologically advanced and much more open to other races than just about anyone else in the setting.
I don't think this is an example of Chainmail Bikini since it doesn't describe the item in question as "armor". Quite the opposite, it points out that it isn't for self-defense, yet it was still posted there.
- Ranma from Ranma ½ has to wear a literal metal corset in the French-style diners arc while infiltrating and trying to learn the ultimate dining technique as a girl. It's not for self-defense, but for making him wearing weight as a form of harsh training that the long-tongued huge-mouthed French creeps force on him. Ranma is trapped in it (it's locked) until he loses so much weight due to hunger and it falls off him. He accidentally gets hit with hot water once and deliberately in a self-training session while he's still in it, which results in an excruciating spectacle of a guy painfully and awkwardly having a rigid metal corset and garter belt stocking on him.
This example was originally added by Tropers.Bakadude.
Recycled Title example, namely the episode Rosa is contended to be an example of this with regards to the episode Rose. But they're both Character Titles about two different characters, so is that a legit example?
You fell victim to one of the classic blunders!Not the same titles = Not An Example. Cut it.
Can I get a second opinion on the example I've presented? I want to know for sure if it's Not An Example.
Edited by TheNerfGuy on Feb 19th 2019 at 9:20:17 AM
Doesn't sound like it's an example, you can probably cut it.
Should Bumblebee still be listed on Transformers Film Series, even though it's a reboot and therefore not part of that series?
If we need a dedicated series page, then I think we should rename the current page to something like Michael Bay's Transformers, and make a separate page that covers Bumblebee, Optimus Prime and all other Transformers movies going forward.
The Working Title for Bumblebee was Transformers Universe: Bumblebee. No idea if they're still using that umbrella title, but it could work for the new page.
The Ranma ½ example has been deleted.
The Dragon Prince has two past characters, Queens Annika and Neha of Duren die in a heroic sacrifice to take a macguffin back to save their people from starvation. During this action, a court mage from an ally Kingdom tries to help them, fails, and is then saved by his Queen Sarai, who dies from attacks by the Dragon King. Annika and Neha are a married couple.
Does this qualify for Bury Your Gays if in the same conflict a non-gay person dies?
If its an even split of gay and non-gay characters getting killed, i wouldn't considered Bury Your Gays.
So, in your opinion, since it is a 2-1 gay to straight deaths, then it does qualify for Bury Your Gays?
Is the cast mostly made out of LGBT characters? The trope is about gay characters getting killed off more often.
Those Continuity Nods become Mythology Gags.
And the Continuity Snarls become Not An Example and get cut.