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ScorpioRat from Houston, Texas Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: Forming Voltron
#26: Nov 5th 2013 at 11:17:17 AM

@ Gundam Scouts:

Hm... It'd be interesting if the Inner and Outer Scouts were like the Moon Kingdom's A-team, and there were way more senshi for every other object in the sky, each with their own squads that handle a certain area of the world.

You'd have some based on the Western zodiac, others based on star systems, others based on astroid belts, and some for the multiple other moons, each team being speciallized in something.

edited 5th Nov '13 11:19:38 AM by ScorpioRat

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#27: Nov 5th 2013 at 12:12:46 PM

Planetary Soldiers (Mercury, Mars, Jupiter, Pluto, et al), Satellite Soldiers (Phobos, Deimos, Ganymede, Titan, etc.; Moon would be a Satellite Soldier, but she's an anomaly in terms of power level), and Star Soldiers (Sailor Pleiades, Sailors Hokuto and Nanto, etc.)

Sailor Galaxia is MIA, and there are currently no other Galactic Soldiers.

.... Looks like we're gonna have some fun with The Chosen Many here....

ScorpioRat from Houston, Texas Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: Forming Voltron
#28: Nov 5th 2013 at 12:25:43 PM

Would they get more high tech equipment, like actual vehichles to ride around in and some more magical tools/weapons?

I also was interested in starting up a more comedic version of Sailor Moon, taking some of the much less serious plot points that were cut out of the Canon Manga and playing around with them. Like a parody/lampshading thing.

I already have a couple of Alternative Characterizations: Ami would actually be an android/cyborg, explaning her high IQ, and Makoto would end up a motorcycle gang leader.

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#29: Nov 5th 2013 at 12:36:47 PM

Something occurs to me. Why do they have to have non-Japanese names? They could be immigrants; Japanese ethnically (or half-Japanese), but still be citizens of some nation in Europe or whatever.
Because it wouldn't really fit my vision of the story. I'd like to not rely too much on the But Not Too Foreign factor; I already have Asuka, Mari, and Asuka's aunt and her children to cover that angle. (Yes, I said "aunt". You want the full premise? I'll put it out in the Evangelion thread, since that's the primary setting of the fic.)

Speaking of, I've got some BV and #1 plot points I'd like to run by you via PM, if that's cool?
A bit too busy these days. Midterm exams, getting and doing stuff for a couple of not-so-easy lab classes, other real life stuff... and did I mention the 1000+ story-alert e-mails from FF.Net? (Yeah, that does mean that I haven't been reading your newest story additions yet)

But back to Sailor Moon, I have a strange desire to do a take on the story if it was like a Gundam show. After all, one of the translations for "senshi" is "soldier". Handful of teenaged girls suddenly get superpowers and are drafted by a talking cat to fight an honest to god War against the Dark Kingdom.
Ah, here's the thing... The characters are strictly mundane versions of their civilian personas. Heck, the main reason I even included the Cast Herd is because...

  1. I thought it would be cool to have Shinji's Elegant Classical Musician streak be the result of him as a kid happening to watch a televised broadcast of one of Michiru-expy's concerts (she's a world-class violinist in-story), leading him to secretly idolize her after being deeply touched by her performance.
  2. One mid-story sub-plot involves Shinji finally getting to meet his aforementioned musician idol, and for one of the few times in his entire life get praised for being able to play Bach's Suite No. 1 Prelude in G major, BWV 1007 so well at such a young age note .
  3. The aforementioned sub-plot also includes the most predictable source of comedy with Haruka and any expy of hers that's worth her name: Mistaking her for a man simply because she dresses like a guy, has a bifauxnen face, an androgynous voice, and never bothered clarifying her gender at all (doesn't help that the dialogue never has any of the Eva characters use a third-person pronoun to refer to her). And the kicker? Poor Shinji would've eventually tried to ask Haruka-expy how he could be more charming as a guy like "him", had he not discovered the truth first. Now consider that with the in-story fact that he has had a long history of bullied as a kid for having a girl's face (and he does; Word of God is that design-wise, he's just Nadia: The Secret of Blue Water's title character with a flat chest, male genitals, and a boyish hair cut).

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#30: Nov 5th 2013 at 12:41:03 PM

I was thinking of staying somewhat close to canon in terms of what gear and such is available to the Sailor Soldiers; other than magical tools provided by Luna/Artemis/whoever the local team's Moon Kingdom liason is, most other things would be OSP.

Also, I just realized I can play Tuxedo Mask closer to a proper Char Clone.

Ah, here's the thing... The characters are strictly mundane versions of their civilian personas.
But.... doesn't that kinda, take the fun out of using the Sailors in the first place?

edited 5th Nov '13 1:44:15 PM by EvaUnit01

ScorpioRat from Houston, Texas Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: Forming Voltron
#31: Nov 5th 2013 at 2:39:04 PM

I always wondered who told Artemis what to do when he was with Venus...

So if I did do an affectionate parody, what other character traits/plot things should I magnify or play for laughs? I'd make Mercury more robotic at first, with only brief lapses in humanity that get longer as she works with the others. Sailor Moon gets more genre savvy from reading Sailor V comic so much, but she still sucks at fighting. Jupiter is way more of a delinquent, and is more inclined to go around the law to accomplish something. The rest of the Scouts are drawing blanks at the moment.

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#33: Nov 5th 2013 at 2:48:44 PM

Grrrr, damn doublepost, please disregard.

edited 5th Nov '13 2:50:18 PM by EvaUnit01

ScorpioRat from Houston, Texas Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: Forming Voltron
#34: Nov 5th 2013 at 3:00:45 PM

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I'm now picturing a slightly pyromaniac GoddessOfWar!Mars that the scouts throw in the general direction of the enemy and run for cover.[lol]

Venus could just be an extreme The Ace to the point of doing the physically impossible because she frickin' Sailor V. She's full of ham, but has somehow warped her ham into a Batman styled ability to do crazy stuff.

Now for Tuxedo Mask and the Outer Scouts..

edited 5th Nov '13 3:01:35 PM by ScorpioRat

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#35: Nov 5th 2013 at 3:15:03 PM

re:Raye: I call dibs on the obvious G Gundam reference, though.

Tuxedo Mask can be like a ridiculously suave sex god or something. Or he's not really, but everyone thinks he is 'cos DAT TUX.

Pluto, due to Time Travel shenanigans, can't settle on one speech pattern, subconsciously going from Totally Radical, to Ye Olde Butchered Englishe, to ancient Latin, to even grunting like a caveman. All without even realizing it, insisting that she has a consistent manner of speech and that everyone else is being a moron/not paying attention.

ScorpioRat from Houston, Texas Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: Forming Voltron
#36: Nov 5th 2013 at 3:26:18 PM

For Saturn: She's pretty much in a constant Eeyore-like funk because no one invites her to anything due to being concerned over her Silence Glaive. She's always predicting the end of the world even when everything's completely fine.

edited 5th Nov '13 3:28:08 PM by ScorpioRat

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#37: Nov 6th 2013 at 7:56:18 AM

But.... doesn't that kinda, take the fun out of using the Sailors in the first place?
Not really, unless you're saying that their civilian personas and the interactions between them aren't interesting on their own. I believe there is more than a few Sailor Moon fanfics out there that go the "What If? there was no supernatural stuff and the characters weren't reincarnations from a long lost age?" path.

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#38: Nov 6th 2013 at 8:19:53 AM

Not really, unless you're saying that their civilian personas and the interactions between them aren't interesting on their own. I believe there is more than a few Sailor Moon fanfics out there that go the "What If? there was no supernatural stuff and the characters weren't reincarnations from a long lost age?" path.
Well, to me, yeah. I mean, take out the Magical Girl Warrior stuff and it's what, slice of life? To be frank, I didn't come to this show for character interaction. I came here for the hilarity of teenaged girls in goddamn borderline fetishistic sailor suits beating up the forces of evil. Take that away, and then why am I watching this show? It's like if you take Power Rangers, and then take out Rita and her minions, and you take out Zordon, and you take out the morphing and action and stuff. All that's left is a bunch of goody two-shoes high school students who do charity work and stuff. And to me, that's boring.

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#39: Nov 6th 2013 at 8:23:05 AM

Well, that just demonstrates how tastes can differ widely.

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#40: Nov 6th 2013 at 8:48:35 AM

I don't recall saying anything to the contrary. I'm not saying it can't be done well, or that there isn't a market for it. I just personally can't see the point of it, since the stuff that got me interested in the series to begin with is being excised out of it.

It's not quite as bad as Naruto or Kingdom Hearts High School AU, but it's distressingly similar. My own high school was boring as all hell, and I have no interest in reading about ninjas and keybearers being dropped into the same setting. .... Kamen Rider Fourze and Megaranger could be partial exceptions on the basis that they take place in high school anyway, but if the toku elements (Henshin Hero, Monster of the Week, etc.) are dropped, then I wouldn't be interested in it anymore. I mean, if I felt like watching highschool slice of life, I'd go watch Haruhi Suzumiya.

Hrm......

Saturn has a moon called Titan. Would it be uncalled for to have Sailor Titan be a reference to Attack On Titan? I mean, I'm already dead set on Sailors Hokuto and Nanto....

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#41: Nov 6th 2013 at 9:00:25 AM

Funny fact that only recently have I discovered: Jupiter has a moon called Leda, which resembles "Lita".

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#42: Nov 6th 2013 at 9:04:43 AM

[up][up]It could work, but maybe if the character just happened to be a fan of it, she could make a sort of Self Fufilling Prophecy of herself by making references.

I decided that my Parody Usagi's going to basically be the only sane one of the team, except she has shades of Lovable Coward along with her slightly sarcastic attitude. She'd love to just go home and read comics, but she's forced to participate in the ridiculousness so her friends don't get hurt. She'll whine every step of the way and point out how stupid the situation is though.

Not sure how off the rails the plot should go though. I'm thinking one chapter per episode of the Anime unless the events can be grouped together somehow. I'm trying to mix the manga and anime ideas together too.

[up]If that was not a coincidence, then...I see what you did there, Dub.

edited 6th Nov '13 9:05:38 AM by ScorpioRat

ScorpioRat from Houston, Texas Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: Forming Voltron
#43: Nov 13th 2013 at 10:47:15 AM

Alright, here's a snippet from the Parody Fanfic. I'm starting from Episode One of the Anime and meshing together the more filler-ish, less interesting episodes. you know, I kinda like Molly as a character, even though she doesn't do too much once her arc ends. Writing her is fun. Or maybe it's just the Brooklyn accent I keep imagining for her.

Chapter 1-A Moon Star is Born

A thousand years ago, there was a great Moon Kingdom, a monarchy of white spires and shining lights on the…moon. It was a peaceful paradise where the people lived freely without a care. And its eternal glory was overseen and guarded by their leader Queen Serenity, and her trusted soldiers of love and justice. Yup, rainbows and ponies and sunshine all day. And everyone got free ice cream. Needless to say, times were good on the moon back then.

Until Queen Beryl attacked, tearing the kingdom to pieces with her otherworldly Negaforce and its horrible, ugly as sin monsters. Guess she wasn’t a fan of puppies and kittens every week or something. Anyway…the Queen defeated the evil beasts and their ruler, and banished them, but at the cost of her magnificent kingdom. To save her dying court, she sent them all into the vast future to hopefully live a better life on Earth, sending two cats to watch over them just in case things went wrong again. Because cats are totally the most responsible animals to choose for such a momentous task. Yup. Flawless logic.

Which brings the story to present day…

An alarm clock lay on a cluttered side desk, tipped over from the pillow thrown at it earlier. Next to it, a lump was huddled under the covers of the bed, blocking the sun from reaching it at any point soon. Seconds later, the lump catapulted up, throwing the covers away in a panic.

“Crap!” Serena yelled, realizing exactly how late she was as she frantically pulled on some clothing she hoped was a school uniform in the right order. She really didn’t have time to check. As long as the underwear was on the inside… After an extremely fast bathroom visit, Serena awkwardly hopped through the hallway to the door on one foot, shoving her shoe on as she passed the kitchen, hair messily placed in her customary style of two buns. “Moooom, I could have used a nice wake up call!”

“You’d just ignore me anyway,” Her mother answered. “Come back and get your lunch, and please try not to leave without a skirt this time. The neighbors are still going on about that one…” Serena backpedaled and blushed, grabbing the box on the table.

“That only happened once.”

“Let’s hope once is enough.” After finally getting out the house, she sprinted as best as an uncoordinated 14 year old could do down the sidewalk, almost tripping over a few skateboards and mailboxes. The sounds of a small scuffle in a half empty parking lot slowed her down, and she looked around a car to see a group of little kids huddled around something on the concrete. She heard a cat yowling in the center, which prompted her to go investigate. Darn her Good Samaritan behavior.

“Alright guys, break it up! Don’t you have some ants to burn or something?” she yelled, the group scattering when she ran up to them. They pulled faces and made rude gestures at her before going around the corner. “Stupid kids, torturing animals…” Serena muttered before checking out the cat. It looked like it had been on the streets for a while, its black fur dirty. It stood up and immediately started pawing at the two bandages stuck to its forehead. “Oh wow, they really got you there. I thought cats were smart.” Serena picked up the cat and tried to remove its bandages, to the cat’s angry protest.

“Seriously, I’m trying to help you! I better get good karma for this…” After a minute of squirming and yelling, the bandage came off and the cat went limp. A second later, it flipped out of her hands and landed on a car, staring at her. Serena stared back. There was something different about its eyes now, like there was more intelligence behind them somehow. A bell rang in the distance, snapping her out of her stupor long enough to realize that it was her school’s bell. Well, there went getting there on time. She didn’t think Ms. Haruka would by the excuse of having to peel a bandage off a stray as a valid one, so she took off again, completely forgetting about said cat, who watched her leave with a look of wonder. The stray was just in time to see her trip over a newspaper.

“Could she be the one…?” it asked, looking far less awe inspired. “Because if she is, we might be in trouble.”


“And here’s your test back, Serena.” The teacher showed her a paper, almost completely marked up in pen. A big red 30 was on the top, making her groan as she took it. Wow, she sucked at math. “I’ll be seeing you tomorrow for retakes. It was a nice bunny you drew on the back though.”

“Aw, c’mon. It can’t be that bad, Serena!” Her red headed friend Molly looked over her shoulder at it before cringing. “Ooh, that’s…something alright. Maybe you should walk home slowly today.”

“I was debating accidentally burning it in a garbage can, but that would need matches,” Serena admitted. “What did you get?”

“I, er…it wasn’t as good as it could have been. I’m not a genius or anything,” she said as Serena snatched it up.

“An 85? You’re a genius compared to me, that’s for sure! I wish I could bring that home, my parents would ask if I had been abducted by aliens the day of the test.”

“Sorry, didn’t want to make you feel worse.”

“Hey, guys! How’d you do on that test? I didn’t study enough and only got a 95, and my folks are gonna kill me!” A brown haired boy wearing a thick pair of glasses said, coming up to them before catching sight of the red stained paper. “Oh wow, you need me to tutor you or something?” Molly glared at him.

“Really, Melvin? Give it a rest already, not all of us can sleep through school and still pass with flying colors! She doesn’t need more studying; she needs a shopping trip to take her mind off it!”

“You know…” Serena said, picking her head up from the desk she was resting it on in despair. “I probably would do better if I actually did study instead of procrastinate all the time.” The three were silent for a few beats, before they simultaneously started laughing at the sheer ridiculousness of the statement.

“You really had me going there…but seriously, my mom’s jewelry store is going to have a sale this afternoon.”

edited 13th Nov '13 10:47:26 AM by ScorpioRat

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#44: Nov 13th 2013 at 7:49:15 PM

Looks great. Hey, since Tuxedo Mask is the primary factor in saving Sailor Moon's skinny blonde butt early on - and also because Jadeite decides out of nowhere to immediately retreat upon Tuxedo's arrival, despite having Moon completely at his mercy - can parodyverse Tuxedo Mask be some kind of In-Universe Memetic Badass?

"I am Tuxedo Mask, the champion of manliness. On behalf of sharp-dressed men everywhere, I shall whup ass and inspire wussy protagonists to grow a spine, AND THAT MEANS YOU!"

edited 13th Nov '13 7:50:31 PM by EvaUnit01

ScorpioRat from Houston, Texas Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: Forming Voltron
#45: Nov 13th 2013 at 7:56:27 PM

Hm...I was wondering how he should be portrayed. Everyone except Luna considers him like Chuck Norris on the internet, no matter how many times she insists he just throws flowers and runs off. Serena is suspicious at first, but eventually succumbs to his charm. Or gives up trying to make sense of it all. Whichever. I was wondering how to portray the Negaverse as a whole too.

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#46: Nov 13th 2013 at 8:24:44 PM

Tuxedo throws a rose in Jadeite's general direction, and the latter's response is a self-assured-sounding "Well, time to go," before making a tactical withdrawal.

That's literally what happened in canon, in one of the first couple of episodes.

And since Jadeite is too awesome to be scared of a mere mortal throwing an ordinary rose, the only logical explanation is that Tuxedo Mask is actually the lovechild of internet Chuck Norris and alternate future Sailor Venus, and that the roses Tuxedo throws are in fact the Roses of Righteousness, also called the Roses of Awesomesauce.

ScorpioRat from Houston, Texas Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: Forming Voltron
#47: Nov 14th 2013 at 5:25:21 AM

Oh, and I finally found the reasoning for why Venus can't immediately solve the plot as soon as she arrives by being a Batman expy. After the events of her prologue Manga where she gets her full memories, she was too Genre Savvy and competent for her own good, so a limit was put on her transformation time limit and her full mental capacities. She's still extremely insightful when untransformed, but she's effectively nerfed in sheer reality warping power until she does transform. And then she's only allowed a couple of hours a day unless there's a crisis.

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#48: Nov 14th 2013 at 2:04:41 PM

Trying to come up with something for Uranus and Neptune for ya, but all I can come up with is Make-Out Kids, with the Running Gag that they can never keep their hands off of each other, the result being that the bad guys keep getting Distracted by the Sexy, whereupon Pluto or whomever else stealth-kills them.

Also, by "Sailor Venus is Batman", that's Adam West Batman, right?

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#49: Nov 14th 2013 at 2:15:42 PM

she was too Genre Savvy and competent for her own good,

Flat "What".

If the Silver Millenium and the Senshi start nerfing their own forces, then they sure as heck deserve losing.

I mean, this isn't a sports competition. The future of the world is at stake there. What kind of insane forces of good devolve their best agents to incompetence when they're supposed to face deadly enemies who aren't supposed to pull any punches back themselves?

ScorpioRat from Houston, Texas Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: Forming Voltron
#50: Nov 14th 2013 at 2:45:28 PM

She still gets her full competence back in Sailor form, and final battles with the villains of each story arc remove the Restraining Bolt. The nerf was because she was becoming a reality warping level of The Ace, to the point where it might start adversely affecting the future of the universe and Crystal Tokyo's safety with an unplanned ripple in time.

Venus thinks on an almost meta level, to the point of possibly being able to solve every problem she runs across with enough preparation. And it was a higher force that nerfed her, not the Silver Milllenium. Heck, the other Scouts are also confused as to why she doesn't just go full power 24/7.

And this is a parody. I'm not trying to make the most serious narrative here.

[up][up]Yes, combined with a little bit of Bobobo style problem solving skills.


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